I opened an account a few days ago and made about $2000 profit, and then after withdrawing got some really weird messages asking for KYC docs.
I am not doing anything suspicious - just betting on a few football matches that seem like they are profitable, and I am betting from Ireland where it is legal.
Has anyone experienced this before - really don't want to have to give my personal details across to a gambling company!!
Did you carefully read the ToS before registering on the platform? There is a rule that they reserve the right to ask KYC at any time, and I'm assuming they asked KYC from you because of a rollover requirement. This means that each user must wager at least 3 times the deposit (for sports betting), and only after that, the withdrawal may be approved. Anyway, if you didn't break the rules, you should not have any problems with KYC because Betfury can be trusted. In most cases, you wont really able to push through withdrawal if you havent able to wager up your deposit on that particular requirement because it would show up some warning or alerts that you needed to do that. In his case, he do able to make out some withdrawal and later on it do ask out some KYC which do really sucks because some of known popular gambling sites on this market doesnt really have any requirement even if you do withdraw much more bigger amounts or without having those strings attached. Therefore, theres something wrong with the user and if there's none then there might be some security trigger or some sort. |
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I understand how bad if we lose money on our first trade but I think we have to understand as well that not all went too easily. There is something we need to change and instead of focusing on how to earn money, it supposes we have to focus on how to enhance our knowledge and skills first. For the moment that we have all of these things, it can be easy for us to make a profit in the market...it guarantees nothing but nobody was able to succeed in the absence of these things.
SUSTAIN!This should really be your first priority and next would be making profits because once you do able to sustain yourself then profits will be flowing through because you do able to make money on longer runs.This is why surviving is the first or mindset you do have when you are dealing on this market and not just hurrying up yourself on making money because this would really just give out those kind of desperation which might result into mistakes. Learn things first and when you do able to handle up yourself well on this market then making money wouldnt really be hard. |
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Yeah, i have read that but it would take up some time but having some exemptions would be good for those who dont have any plans on depositing. Thanks for the heads up. Unfortunately my IP is blocked due to location. I wish there was the option available to still play the demo so that when I am in other locations I would know if I like the site or not.
They had some response to this about VPN. Is VPN use allowed?
VPN in general is for user protection and security in internet but if domain blackjack.fun is blocked in your country then unfortunately we have to say NO to you. So its not allowed and if its blocked into your country then theres nothing you can do. |
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This might be a little off topic yet i would be asking about withdrawal.
If you are a signature campaign participant and with the current security system of blackjack.fun on which to those people who dont make out deposits
will be having those withdrawals would be processed manually. So the question is, if you do play with your signature pay inside the site it would solve out the
problem or you would really be needing to deposit the minimum at least?
I am an example of such a participant. My deposit consists entirely of the reward for participating in the signature campaign. I don't know the answer to your question yet, but I'll look into it in the coming days and let you know. I'm just as interested in this as you are. I hope this doesn't turn into a little quest that I had to go through: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5239387.msg59358747#msg59358747  . My email verification has arrived in my email account but it is placed in my Spam folder. So I think you can start to check the email verification on your Spam folder as I am. I do not know how it could be, but I see that my email has already been confirmed, so I hope there is no other problem in the future. But if I need to deposit the minimum to release the payment, I think that will not be a problem  But I see there is no minimum or maximum deposit, so that great to us  In regarding on playing out something with my balance then i have just tested out some bets on blackjack but not really much (6-10 bets) as far as i remember.So i do assume out that signature payment wagering doesnt count or i havent able to reach up possible threshold for possible wager requirement. Well, its better to make out some deposits and solve that pending withdrawal yet i do miss out that instant thing. |
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I think people who "only invest an amount you can afford to lose" still end up losing their money. Because after all is said and done, the human psychology will view any investment amount that took convincing yourself that it was "ok to invest" as a risky amount.
And they will fall for FUD and FOMO almost just as hard as if they invested an amount that they couldn't afford to lose.
The right saying should be: "invest an amount you are comfortable with losing". That way, you won't keep looking at charts every 2 minutes with your finger on the sell button.
Yeah but the difference here is.... they will lose a small amount as against losing a huge amount if they would have invested more than what they can afford to loss, one way or another if you are not careful, you will lose money, to me, i think they interpreter the same thing, nobody wants to actually lose any money no matter how small, if it happens, the impact won't be to hard because the invested amount is withing what you can afford. Losing something which you hadnt anticipated will surely create that kind of emotion or mindset on being that impulsive which would cause even more problems if you dont have that kind of good self control and you should really realize that investing or spending the money that you could afford to lose is a must whether you are investing or doing gambling or something in related to it. You wouldnt really be that stressful in case you do lose those money, what matter most here is to sustain despite of that condition. |
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We are all advising not to follow what OP is recommending he did not post that the method is effective and just inviting you to cheat he is already banned for a reason that he did not mention, you don't want to hear instruction from a guy who got banned you will just jeopardize your account so don't follow this method on a casino that you're playing if they don't allow the use of VPN.
You know what makes some people hook onto some things and later regret, that is because they love doing things they shouldn't have done in the first place. Your country ban something, doing it at your own will is a crime and there is a reward for any crime committed, then why risk it in the first place? The earlier thread was complicated due to religious settings and of course, you know what happens if a country is ruled by a theocracy, their Yes is yes and No is remains unchangeable. I will leave to gambling if it goes against my country's objection not to talk of the KYC by casino People would never ever learn until they would be experiencing those unfortunate things to happen later on.If you do know that your country is really prohibiting or restrict something then why do go ahead and trying to force out on what you do have in mind.If you havent caught yet then good but dont be that too confident that things wont really be discovered in the end of the line. Using up VPN on your own risk and if you arent ready for possible problems then avoid it on the first place. |
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So, mostly it means that the OP decided to drop this site. May be he has not enough skill to improve it or he spent all his money for site design(it strange if it costs some money but it is possible), hosting and some other expenses - we don`t know but it doesn`t matter, we can forget this casino i think.
Just heard about this site and decided to check it out and it feels like a kid designed this site since it doesn't seem professional at all. Looks more like a indie game site to be honest. This is why I am not surprised that he isn't active in this thread and that the site itself isn't receiving high traffic. Overall, I agree with your opinion about forgetting this site. The owner seems not in a hurry to build this site. Because from his site itself, he said that he built many websites already. And upon checking in whois, it is up for sale according to this below snapshot (check the upper right hand corner) - ~ So maybe, the OP already put up this site for sale? Buying a new domain is easy and cheap these days. So no wonder, he may put this site to sale already and move on to the next. Even if he do tends to sell it up but im much sure that no one would intend to pay up for something like this.Site design is indeed like been created by a kid and even that chatbox wasnt placed correctly. It isnt surprising that it would just simply ignored and die afterwards if they would not really get such attention.Just like into those casual poorly made gambling sites. Only the good ones would really be having the chance to survive. |
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Gamblers take advantage of everything they believe would provide them with quick cash, and when it fails, they become furious, and the same way they take crypto trading. They assume that they can just invest in a coin and receive a 10X return right away; nevertheless, they are frequently discovered to lack fundamental knowledge of cryptocurrency trading, and they are frequently the false investors that dump new projects in the name of gambling.
Unfortunately many newbies have that kind of mentality, which is sad because that means they are going to lose a huge amount of money to the markets as it is very difficult to predict not only which coin will go through a 10x growth but when it will happen, after all stories of people that held a coin for years and the coin experimented no movement only for them to sell their coins and then the coin skyrockets shortly after are not rare at all. Cant really deny that we are once having this kind of mentality when we are still a newbie on which it isnt that surprising on having that kind of thing in mind that we do make out decisions on a rush manner on which we dont even apply proper analysis into it. You are the ones who do able to realized on what you are doing and if you do experience out losses then this is the time you would really make out some adjustments since you are aware that proper risk management is the key. Dont think like a gambler because you would not sustain into this market if you do have that kind of behavior which isnt really that suggested at all. |
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This might be a little off topic yet i would be asking about withdrawal.
If you are a signature campaign participant and with the current security system of blackjack.fun on which to those people who dont make out deposits
will be having those withdrawals would be processed manually. So the question is, if you do play with your signature pay inside the site it would solve out the
problem or you would really be needing to deposit the minimum at least?
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Your bitcointalk profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=815243Your current posts count (including this one): 6729 Amounts of merits that you earned in the last 120 days: 17 Your blackjack.fun username: Stomachgrowls12 Old member here.  Hope i would be chosen again. Thanks |
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Im bit excited for this as well on which blackjack.fun does really hear out peoples/communities suggestion which is really great and just like those top tier popular sites on which they do really
hear out with their players demand or simply the current trend now on which most casinos are really like on one stop shop for their players which offering all sorts of games from casino into
sports book all in one which does really give out big convenience into those who do tend to play on the site. We are eyeing for this one!
But we will not see this in the near future, because there are still some updates that have not been finished in blackjack.fun like VIP status When offering more products then everything must be prepared one of them is live support service I see Blackjack.fun still lacking the team there Live support is preferred but we've seen some gambling sites does have their chatbox which do have bot to answer up all of those possible common questions asked by its players which means that it isnt really that necessary for them to put up but it would be good if there would be some staffs which would really be that focused on some queries which is unusual. Also, integration of new games wont really be that hard but of course they would need still to see if there's soo much demand to it. |
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one of the reasons many people are trooping into crypto-currency is because it's decentralized, and protects ones privacy I think it would go against that value revealing the identity of those rich lost holders except the owners do it by themselves, regardless we really don't have any need to find out who they are if they legitimately got the funds there into their wallet in the first place. Even if you do know the owner of such wallet address then what would you do next? Its true that one of the things or factors on why crypto is been loved that much because of its characteristics which is decentralized and anonymous.We are seeing lots of wallets which are dormant but we dont know if those are totally lost in void or still intact into its owners which do owns lots of coins which we couldnt really tell in the first place. Anonymity wouldnt fit out on crypto space if you could easily trace up on whose the owner of those coins or wallets. |
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As long as it doesn't hinder your main line of work then you're good to go and if it doesn't consume a lot of time and it doesn't feel like another job at all then you're probably alright continuing that said side job but if those are the opposite of my criteria then it's probably time for you to stop doing it or if it's paying really well then you need to quit your main work and focus your efforts in that side job and work your way to making it your new career.
Nowadays, where people are already used in multi tasking, we can engage in two or three jobs aside from our own main job. As long as you get to manage your time and you are able to make a good income out of those jobs, that will be very fine. In some cases, side jobs even create a better opportunity to give us a bigger compensation compared to our main job. This is the reason why some people leave their main job so they can maximize their income through making those side jobs as their main job and main source of living. Ive known some people do even have 3 or 4 jobs at the same time but of course the other jobs arent really that needing some hard work or simply just some sideline jobs but of course you would really be still needing that specific skills on which you could really take advantage of it or utilize it for your own benefit or advantage speaking on having multiple income or sources that you would get. As long you could able to handle it well and doesnt really have any problems in terms of your health or have balance on time then i dont see any problems. |
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Waiting 3 days now on a withdrawal because of an empty hot wallet. Fucking joke.
I thought everything is working smooth here already. Anyway, maybe, just wait for a bit as I believe the owner said that things will be back to normal again. They still have good amount of bankroll, so it is just a matter of refilling the hot wallet. Let us know the updates of your withdrawal so people are aware that there is existing withdrawal request that has not been fulfilled yet. The last issue about withdrawals the complainant created small withdrawals and all his withdrawals pushed through I don't recommend this to the new complainant to use that method if his withdrawal is a small amount, but complaints like this will hurt Bitvest and soon there will be no new players only old players who will continue to play here out of loyalty, if you checked Lighlord profile he logs in yesterday again no update, nothing new here. This thing that do sucks that you do know that the owner had logged in but didnt really give out any words or announcement or something like that which do really give out some bad impressions. He had mentioned that things would go smoothly again or would be fixed but still there are complaints and issues which if they would be leaving it there then i wouldnt be surprised that even old players or fan of using this site will surely be jumping into other place. |
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Of all I know about greed is a negative or a meaning that associates with strong emotion to get that certain thing but like what I've said in a negative way. But this time I would going to agree with you mate, greed can be turn into positive depends on how the person would interpret it. Some people are so good to look for a positive thing out of a negative situation. Though in terms of trading and investment being greedy always look like a drawback of a person but this could be a strong emotion that he wanted to achieve or to get a certain thing that he believes he deserve.
I am glad we have the same understanding regarding this angle for positive greed. Nevertheless, I have nothing more to say beside that I agree with you with regards to trading, greed can be a drawback if it’s not controlled and put into its right place. Sometimes, in life, we tend to overdo what has been given and blessed upon us, without realizing that mere action and mindset is already greed. Not surprisingly on which people would be mainly focusing for it cons rather than on its pro's on which we couldnt really deny that being greedy does have its plus side but it would really be situational. But in most cases on which being greedy will surely be putting you into big trouble if you dont able to handle it well thats why you should really be wary in regarding to hat. Dont let your greed control or overcome you on which you should still have that good control in regarding with emotion and mindset so that you could execute out things well. |
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Always winning script? Not unless your target is x1.01 I really think it's always winning script. For all newbies out there please don't fall for this guy, there's a lot of good strategies you on bustabit and you can have them for free, there's what this called sniper in auto bet and all you have to do is find a user that made a good profit for a long time based on their history of course and just copy their strategy directly to the bustabit and if it doesn't work then look for other successful players and good thing about it is you can change the bets to your preferred amount.
Copying or following someones strategy doesnt ensure that you would end up on being profitable just like on that particular user you are saying into which it isnt precise or suggested thing to mind on. 1.01x sticking with that strategy doesnt even guarantee win yet things could bust up on 1.00x which it could be totally useless on sticking with that idea. Crash games are games which are thrilling to play on but minding about surewinnings is something that only in dreams do happen. |
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Ok first of all l thought maybe i should give it some time to recover and it will show its power but damn this coin literally angers me. When bitcoin coin crashed it was like -22% and one of the worst affected cryptocurrency, I was like ok I will give it some time and it will recover with same speed bit no when bitcoin start recovering the other coins move up to double digit but this guy hardly moving at all. I still think it is one of best crypto coin in universe ok at least in Earth it has so many use cases like staking, ico and the team also burn coins from time to time. So what went so wrong is it its unlimited supply or something else? And another thing it is not just performing so terrible with this crash but was going down continuously even before that.
best not to expect anything good in this currency , instead of waiting why not convert your CAKE to more suitable coins like bitcoin or binance coin. there are many currencies to invest than this shitcoin lol. and i wont be surprise if you will end up losing more for this . All matters with risk management on which there are people who do love to diversify things and we know the potential of exchange or swap sites.If we do tend to look back on whats the value of these coins wayback on which they are cheap and now they do have that significant value which those people who trusted up earlier had able to make enormous profits.Now we couldnt make out conclusions that its terrible just because it didnt have some significant movement? You couldnt tell on when it would move out so its a matter of risk management. |
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I do even see this one. 4. Why is it necessary to fill in the passport details?
This is done for security purposes. You will only be able to withdraw any winnings after you present your identification document.https://www.betssen.com/#/ FAQ section. Do they really think that this would really be appealing? I don't really think they realize that yet(or maybe they do but it is needed because of regulation). a lot of fiat casinos do this for security and for regulatory purposes. we don't like it because we want to gamble anonymously but there are gamblers who are not bothered by it. this reminds me of a gambling site with 100+(I think) countries that are prohibited from accessing their website. I don't remember the exact words but the representative of that gambling site basically said that they can't reduce the amount of the prohibited countries because of the license that they have(or something similar to that). It will be good if they can do that to accommodate players who don't want to undergo KYC, but OP to advance and maximize his promotion here should first get a copper and make good of his announcement by getting a good designer like all the other casino threads and if he is really that serious launch a campaign here, I hope he will be actively addressing our concern and issues, especially the KYC. Let us wait what the OP will say about this issue regarding registration details and other kyc-related stuffs. If they are serious in promoting their site in the forum, they will find a way how to address the issues brought by the forum users. If they are amenable to suggestions as I believe they just added bitcoin in their payment options to accommodate crypto users. I dont really believe that they would really make out some exclusions because they would definitely facing regulatory violations since they are licensed casino. So i dont think that they will cater out people here on this forum on not to do any KYC but well lets just wait for some words whether they would consider out the users of this place or would simply strictly impose these things. |
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It's not about the nominal amount, assuming a job is the primary one depending on the income from which job you manage to spend on daily needs.
A person can have 2 jobs at the same time that support each other because the income is equally uncertain. In such conditions, it can be said that the two jobs are primary. Or in a family, husband and wife both have jobs but only the husband's salary is used for the daily needs of the family. So it can be said that the wife's job is a side job (or vice versa) and there is no worry even though the other one will be left behind.
If dealing or applied with two person whether husband or wife then those things are main job yet it could really support from one another in terms of paying off bills and expenses or savings which having two is better than having only one.Speaking with jobs that a single person is doing on even just the husband alone then it could really be having those other job which do give out more income. There's no limit as long you could able to handle both things then it wouldnt really be an issue.As a family man and planning out to have a better future would most likely be giving out prioritize. |
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Welcome to the bitcointalk forum.
You can modify the registration data on your site, because the majority of gamblers do not want to provide personal data, including me, in order to generate more traffic and attract more customers.!!! If you modify this, I will register on your site and play some games especially sports betting if it is on your program. You can also buy member copper for help you to create a high-level thread.
Just trying to sneak out on why they've been asking with those ridiculous amount of data on which its clear as day that this one is a fiat casino which had just integrated crypto into its deposit options which it isnt surprising that they would really be asking those information as they do abide on some laws or regulations for a business.So deal with it and its true that most of us on this market doesnt really prefer out on inputting those information even though it is basic but its not really appealing at all.There are lots of other options which is better and asking no information just like on this one. most fiat-based casino really do have those long-list of details to fill-up as they need to get all the necessary details from the player. the sign-up form is too long for crypto gamblers. so right now, i don't think many gamblers from this forum will register on this site. one thing the site can do though is there is a different sign-up option if you are a pure crypto user, which may only require username and email. but your payment options are only limited to crypto. but if you will deposit fiat, that's when they will collect all those details. so let's hear from the OP what they think about this suggestion. they are new here, so they need time to process all these concerns. I do even see this one. 4. Why is it necessary to fill in the passport details?
This is done for security purposes. You will only be able to withdraw any winnings after you present your identification document.https://www.betssen.com/#/ FAQ section. Do they really think that this would really be appealing? |
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