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2061  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Investing in Casino tokens such as BFG, OWL or TFS on: July 20, 2022, 07:59:22 PM
Casino tokens are only relevant for as long as the sites that they are linked to existing. What do you think happens to them if the sites suddenly disappear one day?

I think it's worth investing in them as long as the sites that they are linked to are popular and reputed sites that are trustworthy. However, I don't advise investing big amounts into any of these tokens no matter how legit they are op.

The reputation of the casino site that they represent will reflect on their reputation as a coin so I guess coins linked to good casino sites have a good future but I think they aren't good for long-term investment especially if we seek assurance of maximizing our gains. These coins might be popular but I still prefer well-established altcoins over them.
Wont be an assurance because even a site is having a good reputation and do well on the market in terms of gambling industry but still its token wont really be totally getting the same success on what you do see on the platform because people do still end up on using those common coins in the market and would mostly ignore their gambling token and investing with it.Majority of players wont really be bothering themselves about investment or supporting on the site that they've been playing via through investment in most cases but well there are people who do mind about on the other part or side
which is on that investment part.

Gambling tokens/coins arent that bad of an option as an investment but not really that always where these people do make out such decision and its evident basing on these tokens prices
as of this moment.
2062  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Can trading be likened to gambling and how so? on: July 19, 2022, 11:33:59 PM
I personally feel gambling is entirely different from trading and can't be used interchangeably as gambling is pure luck while in trading you have to look at whole market and make strategies to move further and make profits.In gambling you place bet and rest depends on outcome while in trading you choose the coin and money you want to invest on and you can make profits out of them.So this is my approach but it could be different from others.
I cannot really bring myself to agree with you on your idea of gambling being different from trading. When it comes to gambling, you are placing a bet and the rest depends on the outcome of the bet you have placed, and in trading you choose the coin or asset that you want to invest on and you can make profits out of them depending on what’s the outcome, and in both of them you hardly know what would be this outcome right?

So, I kind of have a little disagreement with you on this, because both gambling and trading have some similarities, they both involve giving off an asset in risk of expecting something in return of a desired amount.
They have similarities and they have also  some noticeable or significant differences when it comes to risk involved and on how to deal off with these things.You cant really just tell that its really just the same in most part but it would really be just on common sense on telling the different.

The fact that trading could end up on becoming gambling if you dont really know on what you are doing which is typical or normal but if you are putting some efforts on making some analysis
and knowledge been applied to it then it would be an another story.

If you are finding for leisure then gambling would fit out but if you do go for some investment and earning opportunity then trading would be the best choice.
Both are different in most aspect but only similar to different level of risk involved.
2063  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: July 19, 2022, 10:42:44 PM
As stated many times, 1xbit has suffered from people deliberately trying to abuse their system. In this way, gamblers can cheat and take money illegally. Then there is no more gambling. I've said it before, but now I'll say it again; it would be helpful if you could post the betting history here so that people can better judge whether you have violated the terms and conditions or not. That now seems to be the main reason they closed your account.
Are you trying to say 1xbit is the only gambling platform where some people try to “deliberately abuse”?

Look at the scam accusations against 1xbit. Week in, week out, we get new victims. Why don't we see that many accusations with platforms like Duelbits, Roobet, Sportsbet, cloudbet or Bitcasino?
I tell you why… because 1xbit is a scam!
What words you do expect on someone who do advertise 1xbit? They wont be totally going against with it or else they would really be removed from the campaign. Cheesy

You could really expect those words will be somewhat sitting on middle to positive side of thing because if they would really oppose then we do know on what would happen next
and that would be a huge loss off weekly income from their negative accounts.

1xbit had been known to be a scam and people should make out some search first before trying out to deposit on the platform.We do have lots of options
currently for someone to deal with.
2064  Economy / Speculation / Re: What is the possibility Bitcoin will rise before the end of the year ? on: July 19, 2022, 09:27:26 PM
Last year I predicted Bitcoin will rise above the value at the start of the year and I was totally right about it, in April Bitcoin eventually reached a new all-time high price of $64k. Bitcoin added about 72% of its value as it  increased drastically before it eventually started falling back in May till September. I don’t really know how this year is going to turn out now because of the present dip. But I just hope it increases, that’s why I’ve been advising so many people  to hold their Bitcoins and even buy more now cause it will surely rise again.
No one could ever know on what would be the future looks like specially if we do talk about price increase and dumps into this market but we know that this had been the very basic principle yet this had been
always unpredictable since from the start.

For sure no one even anticipate nor expect that bitcoins price would be going back to visit sub 20k price which we know that we've been having a hard time on breaking this 20k ATH back in the past
and now we are playing around these corners.

Speaking about recovery and potential then there's no really doubt on that but of course not all people would really be that confident on making out actions and positioning themselves on a bear market
until when recovery comes then this is where regret do commonly heard of.
2065  Economy / Gambling / Re: Roobet.com | Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino 🦘 on: July 19, 2022, 08:26:28 PM
Well, I've been at Roobet for a long time, and I can attest that the security in this casino is very good, if they ask me for one more level of KYC, I have no problem giving it, I think that with a closed eye I would give it, just like Roobet would too. for Stake.com, for bitcasino.io,. SB, among other sites, I say this because they are very reliable casinos with an impeccable reputation and it is worth recognizing when a site is really good.
Yes it all depends on our comfort level and if we are not then we should avoid it as Stake doesn't have any KYC option and players prefer there but the security at Roobet is fine but it's just that I am not comfortable with sharing too much documents with anyone and play in limits only.
I have once said before I believe last month that KYC shouldn't be a problem for gamblers if the casino is trustworthy and they still doing its best to keep the record intact which I believe is a sign of the casino's devotion to its users but I guess some people will still make a big deal while they can easily do it on centralized exchange whereas most of them lack good security and devotion this day.
It is true, If it is a trusted gambling site then kyc is not a big problem there. But if KYC is done on a scam gambling site.  Those documents may be sold on the black market. So customers must kyc carefully.  And before doing KYC know about that site as well. I believe Roobet is a trusted  casino site so i haven’t any excuse for done kyc here
Roobet had been here on this market for a couple of years already and we've known on how they had made out their name established into this market which means that when it comes to trust then i dont

really have any doubts with Roobet which i could say that informations are on the good hands but we shouldnt really remove into our minds about the probabilities of hacking incident or
simply some internal transactions which havent been known.
This is why no matter how reputable the site is then i do always have those kind of doubts which cant really be avoided in some point.
2066  Economy / Economics / Re: Avoid loan apps, a word of advice. on: July 18, 2022, 09:29:00 PM
In general, it is not recommendable to adquire debt unless it is necessary.
I have seen some of those apps, specially I have seen Xiaomi's credit app called "Mi Credit", according what I have read it is popular in India (one's of Xiaomi's most important markets).

I am not familiarized with the interest of these apps and whether they are predatory or not, as a rule of thumb, credit is supposed to be a tool for emergency expenses but unfortunately I am aware that there are people in both developed and developing countries that put themselves in a position of increasing debt risking their credit scored and personal finances.
Getting loan or having debt is situational whether those funds being used on a good way or just simply trying up yourself to be that able to buy something that you do like thats why you do took some

loan but just like been said that it is really just for emergency purposes or something that you do treat up as a last resort if there nowhere you can run but if you do still have funds which you could
make use of various situations then it would be ideal if you do have done it that way.

Loan apps, i was aware of these things even into our local online wallet provider did really have that kind of offering but of course the interest is on the rooftop which makes even more worse.
2067  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Investing in Casino tokens such as BFG, OWL or TFS on: July 18, 2022, 08:20:34 PM
I don`t think that this is a good idea to invest in casino tokens. It is possible that they pumps sometimes, but i doesn`t depends on the casino most of the times. And casino have to invent some system like as frozen tokens to make investors don`t sell it.
Such tokens may be interesting if casino develops their own blockchain and use their tokens as a commission for example, but it is heavy expenses for the casino that they don`t need.

I don't really agree and everybody needs to do their own calculations to see if it is interesting or not. If you look at Betfury for example, they got a maximum cap in place and do monthly burning programs also.
When it comes to investment then it would always fall on someones perception and preference when it comes on projects or coins which they do really believe and see that it would really be having that

potential or something worth for them to dive in and hold it or invest on it for long term purposes.Some might really be just ignoring but there were people who are able to see and take up some risk
depending on what he do saw.We might be having some impressions that these kind or type of coins werent really that good but we cant really assure of that.

Its up to you whether you would be investing or not and speaking with Betfury token if they are making those monthly burns and demand do retain then
expect on what would be the outcome.
2068  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Can trading be likened to gambling and how so? on: July 17, 2022, 09:41:52 PM
Trading and gambling have the same area of concentration because they both required money to start. They both shared the same risks and need decisive options in other to earn Profits. As for trading, one needs to pass through the normal process, which is to study and Know the different types of charts and how the entire Crypto market operates rather than just mere sitting down and guessing. Gambling involves only mere guess and luck, although some long time gamblers have their won experience and tactics they use in gambling.
Well in short, --if you don't have knowledge in trading it will turn out to be gambling because you are more on guessing rather than having analysis for your possible position. The same on investing in meme coins which you don't know whenit will pump and you know the characteristics they have no real use and the price was based on the community. So if you invested it, you gamble your money, and the chances of winning are quite low and it is a high risk.
On things that you dont have any idea on what you are doing and specially dealing off with money or real funds then it is really actually be considered to be gambling even you do make yourself get engaged in trading.

Imagine on things that you have been doing but doesnt really have the idea on what it is or even knowing or doing the basics then you would just simply thrown out some decisions without basis and knowing trading
which does really need that analysis so that you could really able to make a good position and ending up profitable but if not then expect for these outcomes to happen.

If you do like for you to have better chance on having profitable trades then you should do analysis and do make out some research which you do hone up your skills with the
experience you do get along the way.

2069  Economy / Gambling / Re: Chasing a x330,000 - Update: i hit it! on: July 17, 2022, 08:24:30 PM
I have no idea why so many gamblers feel they achieved something big by hitting huge multipliers even though they won small amounts. Makes sense in gaming(Achievement hunting), but doesn't really make a lot of sense in gambling.

They are just purely numbers at the end of the day people. Anyway, to each their own as they say.
Feeling of achievement or accomplishment.It might sound dumb right but its their own liking and preference even though those are just numbers but something that hits specially on a 300k multiplier isnt something that

you could see everyday and if someone do really chooses up to hunt for those multipliers then its none of our business even most people be saying that winnings of that hit isnt really worth for the money that had been
spent.
Imagine on hitting something 0.0003 % is soo damn still possible which i wont really be that questionable on OP's feeling about achieving on something.
Well done for that kind of patience @OP.  Wink
2070  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔮 Futuur - Predict the Future! 🔮 on: July 16, 2022, 08:48:40 PM

Any marketing method needs to be run for a long period of time to get the best results. Signature campaign is definitely effective, but to get the best results from signature campaign must run for a long time. So the marketing team must work with a good idea about the market needs.

There are many successful gambling websites in this forum and they continue their campaign. Since their campaign is continuing, it can be understood that those companies are getting results from this forum as per their expectations.
Not an assured thing to happen because if you do look at on what other casinos been offering and what does futuur gives then you could see the significant differences thats why i do agree on what Hampsher said above about success in marketing in terms of signature campaigns.Try to look into those casinos or sportsbook into those typical sports which people do make some bets?
Timeframe is the main difference and just been said that not all would really be having the patience on waiting for a long time.
Therefore, even if you do put up a long term campaign then it wont guarantee that it would hook up lots of players and thats maybe the reason why on why Futuur did stop their
campaign since they cant really see any results from that.
2071  Economy / Gambling / Re: KYC casino or no-KYC casino, but with no bonuses/no cashback? on: July 16, 2022, 07:57:08 PM
The discussion here is certainly controversial. because Indeed Most casinos did not require KYC but offered bonuses anyway. I will gamble where there is no KYC because I don't come to play in this casino for offers or bonuses. Although now many gambling casinos without KYC have a large number of players joining the casino they don't care about any bonuses.
Bonuses are set aside for me when I found a good gambling site that requires no KYC. And I'll prefer to gamble with that casino than a casino that required many KYC, ill prefer to be Anonymous in the world of gambling so I decided to play in no KYC casino and I think another gambler will want to play in that casino not because There's no hassle in withdrawal but to remain anonymous as well.

I also have the same view. I would prefer a casino site that will not ask me to comply with their KYC rather than providing bonuses and promotions but will ask me too many personal details. A site that won't ask KYC but will provide good services is already a bonus for me. Anonymity in gambling matters to me.
Not really worth i would say on which you would need to verify yourself for you to get those bonuses? Why not free? Bonuses and promotions shouldnt really be having those kind of terms unless if you are fiat
casino then for sure this would really be standard for a crypto based gambling site then i dont really see on why it would really be that needed.

I'd rather like not to recieve any bonuses or promotions as long i could able to play anonymously without minding or bothering myself that i have sent out some documents or information about my identity
on a particular website.
Also, bonuses are just good for test out and if we do just know the terms and conditions then you would surely say that it isnt really that worth.
2072  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How to know a good bounty on: July 16, 2022, 06:25:54 PM
I heard that some bounties fail to pay participants at the end of work. Considering this senerio, how can one know which bounty is a good to participate in?
Gone are the days where bounty is relevant and worth for the time into those golden era of ICO's where someone could potentially earn thousands of dollars with it but after 2018 where that market crash happens
then this is the time where things turns out to be shit and not worth but surprisingly there are still people who are fan on joining up even up to now.

In the question on how to know a good bounty? In depth research would be the key but dont expect that you would always ending up on getting a good one despite of the
analysis you had made.

Just like on what others been saying above that even bounty managers doesnt really have that assurance for a project to succeed.There are lots of factors which could really affect
projects success whether total support from the community or just simply that project is scam since from the start?
2073  Economy / Gambling / Re: Casino Game on: July 15, 2022, 09:44:41 PM
In my opinion, gambling is better treated pragmatically, as well as cryptocurrency, for example, that is, spending so much that you don't mind losing and not trying to win back losses, just step aside for a while.
That is if we realize that there is a greater loss than victory so that we do not take the risk of losing a bigger one. We will use money that is not too much and that we can afford to lose in gambling because gambling will not give us very large winnings unless we have a high level of luck. In addition, if we experience a loss at gambling, the loss will not make us too sad because we have set the amount of money we use to gamble.
Everything should really be in control in the first place specially we are risking or spending our finances on the leisure thing that we are dealing with.You wont really be making yourself that upset on the time

you are losing.Casino games are just for fun and entertainment and dont really make yourself that desperate on beating up the house or the game because it cant really just possible.
If you are spending on the amount that you can afford to lose then you wont really be making yourself too desperate on the time you do suffer losses.

Gambling is for enjoyment but people are really going too much in terms of spending and hoping that they could really make theirselves rich.
2074  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: lost HW-wallet: is importing the 12word enough? on: July 15, 2022, 08:23:56 PM
If I were you and lost the device, I would restore my wallet to Electrum or any other client and then move funds to a new hardware wallet. Although from the lost device funds wouldn't move without a password, and three-time entering the wrong password will reset the device. But who knows if anyone guesses the password and matches. So I feel this way is safer to secure my funds.
Better safe than sorry,right? Hardware wallets doesnt really cost much and wont be mind boggling specially if those funds stored are significant ones then it is really just sensible on making a new wallet

and trying out to restore and transfer all the stuffs and just like on what been said above that you could never have a good time sleep if you do know that someone is trying to crack or
access your HW but basing up on security it cant really be that easy but somewhat not impossible.

When it comes to security then it isnt really that bad to be that paranoid most of the times. Cool
2075  Economy / Gambling / Re: Multidice.io | The multi-currency dice game | 35+ cryptos on: July 15, 2022, 07:09:53 PM
Get free MDICE tokens from our official Airdrop here

As long as I understand, airdrop should be something that we can get without doing too much tasks.
I checked your Airdrop page but most of them are bounties where users needs to do some common bounty tasks in order to get your token.
I think you should rename it to BOUNTIES unless the true meaning of Airdrop has changed lately or we have different understanding about what airdrop is.
This is totally a misconception for a bounty to be called as an airdrop and its really misleading people until they do visit out the link.  Cheesy

Checking out that ICO page
showing that timeline  Whitepaper is published isnt yet checked.
You should prioritize on at least showing off some roadmap?
Well, Good luck with the ICO to be successful.
2076  Economy / Economics / Re: Good and Evil money — The Morality of earning Money/Rewards on: July 14, 2022, 11:28:14 PM
I completely agree with you  Cheesy See, human greed is something that is more than infinity I guess, and the moment one earns in an unethical way, then, automatically his greed will make him do it again and again and he will never be satisfied, but when we work hard to earn and applying strict principles on our lives, even if we earn less, we will be content because we know, we are getting what we have worked hard with full honesty and dedication Smiley
Human greed is limitless and there are different type of principles on which a person could have whether they would be going on the ethical way or non-ethical as long they could able to earn.

We know that there are situations or conditions on which people would able to earn income neither on a legit way or not but most of the time people wont really be that minding
on where those sources came from as long it do make them a living and able to survive on day to day then that what surely counts.

There are  some who do stick into their principles that they dont mind on living on a hard situation as long they are earning on a legal manner or doesnt really affect others.
2077  Economy / Gambling / Re: BK8 - Biggest and Most Trusted Brand. Asia's #1 Crypto online casino BTC & USDT on: July 14, 2022, 10:21:19 PM
There is a topic in the gambling discussion board List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid and surprisingly bk8 is listed as one of the casinos to avoid because of below reason:



I know it is not valid reason to avoid a casino as it is about preferences from the players. It is not a big problem for some players where their btc deposit is converted to stable coin although they cant withdraw their btc back. However, being listed in such thread is not really good as people may not read or understand the actual situation and people may think that all the listed casinos as "bad". Hopefully bk8 will put their BTC withdrawal back as soon as possible and get themselves removed from the above list.

Should it  really be treated up that way on where this kind of limitation do put BK8 on site should be avoided? I dont see for it to be that right but instead put up some warning or caution about that manner but its not right on putting them on avoided site just because they arent allowing btc withdrawals.
Is it just right for notblox1 to have some considerations?

Its true that bk8 should give or make it possible to withdraw btc as their options where most people do really much prefer
and not on stable coin but this isnt actually an issue honestly.
2078  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Better than DCA is DCAing when fear is high on: July 14, 2022, 09:22:23 PM
For those who consider on holding bitcoin for long term then they would really be usually dont care on what price level they would able to enter since they are minding off about holding or future perspective
Investors with far vision can buy, hold and enjoy their lives. They don't have to read news every day, watch chart every hour and don't have to stress their mind with market volatility.

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DCA is common but not all people does have the funds or finances on doing so thats why whenever they do see that their investments is declining and trying to cope up or cover the losses
then they do decide on panic selling which i dont see for it to be worth or right for someone to take.
To Dollar Cost Averaging, you don't have to have lot of money. You must have confidence with your investment and discipline to follow your DCA strategy. If you are not disciplined, you can not do DCA.
Doesnt need lots of money? Yes you do have a point but this is something noticeable if we do make out some comparison in between to those who do have lots and compared to have less then we know
on who would be the one to have the advantage.Yes, you could dca with less funds but of course it would really be just limited.

Also in counting on different opportunities and changes that this market makes then the more funds you do have  the better but of course risk taking or management will really far stretched which
is normal.
Fear is always there even if you do have these capacities or capabilities but its true that investors with far vision wont boggled down on the actions that they would be making.
2079  Economy / Gambling / Re: Bitcoinpenguin.com on: July 14, 2022, 08:57:02 PM
This is the first time am hearing about these casinos and from the look of things the platform have been around for a while now, but with cases of scam against them as far back as 2016 but I don't know if those cases have been resolved or if the site is still active.
Im not fan with some rating or review sites but still they are able to get some feedbacks and ratings.
https://bitcoinchaser.com/casino/bitcoinpenguin-review
https://www.casinorankings.com/online-casinos/bitcoin-penguin/

There are some issues and complaints against them back into those old years but ended up on getting resolved.
We dont know if there are players or have none already but since the site is still up and running then we could presumpt that way.
Am reluctant on visiting the casino, since they have a track record of scam accusations against them, and besides not that there is any new thing such as promos happening there, it will take me some time to feel at home with this casino unless I read a lot of positive feedback on this forum, with users experience and not the results from a review site.
Whenever we do see or read up some accusations on a casino then the feeling or the confidence for us to play or make out some deposit is really greatly affected thats why i cant really blame out people to

be that reluctant or hesitated on doing so or dealing on a certain platform and this one isnt really having that active interaction on this forum then for sure people would be having those doubts which
we cant really avoid for us to mind off.

Its true that whatever sites does have good feedbacks on this forum will surely be able to convinced out people to play but having none? Then we do know on whats next.
2080  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How Choosing the right trading strategy?? on: July 13, 2022, 11:37:47 PM
I love to trade, Seeing market conditions is always in a state Mirror Trade goes on every day, this makes me confused to choose the right trading strategy because prices fluctuate.
See for yourself and test out different trading style whether you would go for;

Scalping
Daytrade
Swing Trade
Price Action
Long term
Future/Leverage (not recommended for noobs)

Find and tend to look on which one would fit out and depending on your actual preference. Expect that it wont be easy as it looks or sounds
because there are lots of factors which you do need to consider before you could have a good grasp on it.
The main motive or intent on here is to reach out and sustain yourself on this volatile market.Its not easy, yes but doesnt mean its impossible
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