The halving will spur a lot of buzz Why ? Markets love dates and events they can speculate onwards to. The halving is an perfect event to start a hype cause its a.) very easy to understand for everybody and it has b.) an obv bullish undertone as supply gets smaller. This will definitely get picked up by the mainstream media in spring 2016. CNBC and others love such stories. Why "Just 0.001% would be enough." ?
Given the Billions that are moved at the financial markets every day BTC needs just a very tiny amount to get pushed in one way or another. The BTC markets are moved by single Millions at the moment. So overall you are Bullish if I'm not mistaken ? Yes. But there are obv problems also imo. Adoption isnt going forward as smooth and fast as expected. Bitcoin seems to be at this moment more a tool of speculation than a real life device. |
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The halving will spur a lot of buzz Why ? Markets love dates and events they can speculate onwards to. The halving is an perfect event to start a hype cause its a.) very easy to understand for everybody and it has b.) an obv bullish undertone as supply gets smaller. This will definitely get picked up by the mainstream media in spring 2016. CNBC and others love such stories. Why "Just 0.001% would be enough." ?
Given the Billions that are moved at the financial markets every day BTC needs just a very tiny amount to get pushed in one way or another. The BTC markets are moved by single Millions at the moment. |
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Gemini is a neccessary requirement for the ETF as it will be the connection to the market.
How is that ? The ETF has to buy every BTC that is bought at Wallstreet in the "real" BTC markets. Every share of the ETF has to be underlaid by BTCs. In their proposal at the SEC they explained that those BTC will be bought at the usual BTC markets. Given Gemini is their own exchange its obv that they will likely use Gemini to fill orders from Wallstreet. So you see? Gemini is an important requirement for the ETF. Perfect, thank you. Now, what about the volume from the Wallstreet, will we have a big volume from Wallstreet jumping into bitcoin using the COIN ETF ? Thats the big question. Some expect tiny volume some expect hundreds of Millions if not Billions flowing into the ETF. You as ImI, what do you think and what are the logical reasons that backs your reasons ? I think the halving and the ETF could build the "perfect storm". At the moment there is no safe and comfortable way to buy and sell Bitcoin via Wallstreet so it will definitely bring some extra cash. Given how tiny the BTC-marketcap is compared to the financial markets, BTC needs to "convince" only a very small fraction of Wallstreet to go vertical. Just 0.001% would be enough. The halving will spur a lot of buzz and with the ETF as an easy way to participate in such a situation next spring could go crazy imo. But lets wait and see how it unfolds. |
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The winklevii already have investors ready to buy as soon as they go live. They know alot of high power people.
I don't doubt they know powerful people but powerful people are "usually" powerful as they are fairly intelligent. Now, I am mildly semi intelligent and I know if I were them I'd buy before Gemini is launched and the price potentially rises. Why wait for the winkles? I am not sold on this Gemini exchange doing much at all to the price. Not moon bound anyway but............ I really hope I am wrong and everyone points and laughs at me. There is nothing new anymore about a regulated exchange. And with the swedish ETN the Twinkletossers ETF has lost much of it's novelty. But they somehow get all the media and all the fat cats to listen to them. Often just to point and laugh, but listen they do. Don't get me wrong. I still think a fully regulated ETF listed in NY is a big deal, just not as big as it was. And with the other exchanges, the ETN and general acceptance of BTC in financial circles, we don't need the Facepalm Bros to launch this mofo. Sorry, but you are completely wrong here saying that the Swedish ETN ruins the COIN ETFs novelty. ETNs do not = ETFs, not even close ETNs are not nearly as secure and transparent ETFs. ETFs actually hold the underlying asset being tracked and ETNs simply follow the price. This gives people much more confidence in using ETFs to earn returns versus ETNs. If the company that runs the ETN goes out of business the ETN would become worthless (ETN = unsecured debt), but with an ETF there are actual assets backing the investors purchases so they have much more security. Exactly, if the price goes lunatic and makes new ATH the company issuing the ETN could go bankrupt as they eventually have to pay those gains out of their own pockets. Which is why you should never invest in an ETN unless you know the company has a good credit rating and that the chances of bankruptcy are almost non-existent. What if the Wink's Bitcoins get stolen? Does insurance cover the loss, and is there no way an insurance company could possibly wriggle off the hook of paying? I know it's not likely but nothing's impossible, no matter how good the Wink's security is there is always a risk of theft. Good question. I am sure the SEC asked that question also. Its basically the same as the Gold ETF. Gold could get stolen also so there should be an insurance also, right? |
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Gemini is a neccessary requirement for the ETF as it will be the connection to the market.
How is that ? The ETF has to buy every BTC that is bought at Wallstreet in the "real" BTC markets. Every share of the ETF has to be underlaid by BTCs. In their proposal at the SEC they explained that those BTC will be bought at the usual BTC markets. Given Gemini is their own exchange its obv that they will likely use Gemini to fill orders from Wallstreet. So you see? Gemini is an important requirement for the ETF. Perfect, thank you. Now, what about the volume from the Wallstreet, will we have a big volume from Wallstreet jumping into bitcoin using the COIN ETF ? Thats the big question. Some expect tiny volume some expect hundreds of Millions if not Billions flowing into the ETF. |
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The winklevii already have investors ready to buy as soon as they go live. They know alot of high power people.
I don't doubt they know powerful people but powerful people are "usually" powerful as they are fairly intelligent. Now, I am mildly semi intelligent and I know if I were them I'd buy before Gemini is launched and the price potentially rises. Why wait for the winkles? I am not sold on this Gemini exchange doing much at all to the price. Not moon bound anyway but............ I really hope I am wrong and everyone points and laughs at me. There is nothing new anymore about a regulated exchange. And with the swedish ETN the Twinkletossers ETF has lost much of it's novelty. But they somehow get all the media and all the fat cats to listen to them. Often just to point and laugh, but listen they do. Don't get me wrong. I still think a fully regulated ETF listed in NY is a big deal, just not as big as it was. And with the other exchanges, the ETN and general acceptance of BTC in financial circles, we don't need the Facepalm Bros to launch this mofo. Sorry, but you are completely wrong here saying that the Swedish ETN ruins the COIN ETFs novelty. ETNs do not = ETFs, not even close ETNs are not nearly as secure and transparent ETFs. ETFs actually hold the underlying asset being tracked and ETNs simply follow the price. This gives people much more confidence in using ETFs to earn returns versus ETNs. If the company that runs the ETN goes out of business the ETN would become worthless (ETN = unsecured debt), but with an ETF there are actual assets backing the investors purchases so they have much more security. Exactly, if the price goes lunatic and makes new ATH the company issuing the ETN could go bankrupt as they eventually have to pay those gains out of their own pockets. Which is why you should never invest in an ETN unless you know the company has a good credit rating and that the chances of bankruptcy are almost non-existent. Exactly.  And thats why no "big money" will ever flow into such an ETN. |
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The winklevii already have investors ready to buy as soon as they go live. They know alot of high power people.
I don't doubt they know powerful people but powerful people are "usually" powerful as they are fairly intelligent. Now, I am mildly semi intelligent and I know if I were them I'd buy before Gemini is launched and the price potentially rises. Why wait for the winkles? I am not sold on this Gemini exchange doing much at all to the price. Not moon bound anyway but............ I really hope I am wrong and everyone points and laughs at me. There is nothing new anymore about a regulated exchange. And with the swedish ETN the Twinkletossers ETF has lost much of it's novelty. But they somehow get all the media and all the fat cats to listen to them. Often just to point and laugh, but listen they do. Don't get me wrong. I still think a fully regulated ETF listed in NY is a big deal, just not as big as it was. And with the other exchanges, the ETN and general acceptance of BTC in financial circles, we don't need the Facepalm Bros to launch this mofo. Sorry, but you are completely wrong here saying that the Swedish ETN ruins the COIN ETFs novelty. ETNs do not = ETFs, not even close ETNs are not nearly as secure and transparent ETFs. ETFs actually hold the underlying asset being tracked and ETNs simply follow the price. This gives people much more confidence in using ETFs to earn returns versus ETNs. If the company that runs the ETN goes out of business the ETN would become worthless (ETN = unsecured debt), but with an ETF there are actual assets backing the investors purchases so they have much more security. Exactly, if the price goes lunatic and makes new ATH the company issuing the ETN could go bankrupt as they eventually have to pay those gains out of their own pockets. |
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Gemini is a neccessary requirement for the ETF as it will be the connection to the market.
How is that ? The ETF has to buy every BTC that is bought at Wallstreet in the "real" BTC markets. Every share of the ETF has to be underlaid by BTCs. In their proposal at the SEC they explained that those BTC will be bought at the usual BTC markets. Given Gemini is their own exchange its obv that they will likely use Gemini to fill orders from Wallstreet. So you see? Gemini is an important requirement for the ETF. |
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Gemini is a neccessary requirement for the ETF as it will be the connection to the market.
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The winklevii already have investors ready to buy as soon as they go live. They know alot of high power people.
I don't doubt they know powerful people but powerful people are "usually" powerful as they are fairly intelligent. Now, I am mildly semi intelligent and I know if I were them I'd buy before Gemini is launched and the price potentially rises. Why wait for the winkles? I am not sold on this Gemini exchange doing much at all to the price. Not moon bound anyway but............ I really hope I am wrong and everyone points and laughs at me. There is nothing new anymore about a regulated exchange. And with the swedish ETN the Twinkletossers ETF has lost much of it's novelty. But they somehow get all the media and all the fat cats to listen to them. Often just to point and laugh, but listen they do. Don't get me wrong. I still think a fully regulated ETF listed in NY is a big deal, just not as big as it was. And with the other exchanges, the ETN and general acceptance of BTC in financial circles, we don't need the Facepalm Bros to launch this mofo. The ETF is another animal than the ETN. Nevertheless the biggest pricedriver will be the halving and the months before halving. |
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Looks like Bitcoin did have a very small move up today, although I am not sure what caused it. I didn't expect to see a change in price today, mainly because it has been stable these last few days. It is a pleasant surprise to see that the price rose by $10 though.
reason is gemini |
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wieso? BB muss ja gar keine claims übertragen. es reicht vollkommen das BB seinen anteil erhält und dann verteilt.
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is crypto done??   she is so cute <3 |
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ok lets see needs another day it says  |
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Hi,
i am syncing right now and its already at 80 GB usage. Is a HD with 130GB enough??
It's almost complete, but judging by the time of your post, you know already. ok, so the database wont need another 40GB? |
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aaaahhh. will short all the way down to 190. feels good to watch the true believers eating cock.
I relented for a while but it's time for you go in the ignore box. watching his post history its just 99% bullshit. poor soul seems to believe he can move the market by writing "sell now!" or "bear market is over. get in!" |
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Hi,
i am syncing right now and its already at 80 GB usage. Is a HD with 130GB enough??
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Its really going to suck if BTC only rises when there is a country on the brink of collapse or something. It has got to find its way into everyday use. I think it is still very difficult for most average people to even comprehend BTC let alone, go thought the motions of actually using it to buy something. Until that hurtle is crossed I see it floundering up and down with little spikes here and there. We all thought at one time, well when online retailers begin excepting it,,, it will go tot the moon etc. Well, many big ones do now and yet still no new demand. Others thought well, when more laws are written and it becomes legal" to use then it will moon then.. we have guidelines now....Still no impact. The use and movement of BTC is confined to a very small select group of people. many like us in here or miners simply generating and dumping. Until that changes no one is going to get rich very fast or at all. The price will continue to be flat. There is nothing I am aware right now that would cause BTC to really go much higher than we just saw.  -> Halving |
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