I didn't think the v1 boards were in stock. I plan to turn on sales of H-cards tomorrow. Remember, V1 H-cards will take a bit longer to get, but our manufacturer is very fast.
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The scoreboard is awesome. Out of 40,000 customers, 231 have voted negatively... so by Bick's and LittleD(umbass)'s logic, over 39,000 people are happy and satisfied with BFL. 39,000 satisfied customers... no other vendor even has that many customers, satisfied or not.
BOOM! Scoreboard, BRO! 50x the satisfied customers as any other vendor!
Fail again. How many customers does ASICMiner have? |
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1300btc ask wall on stamp  Stamp goes to 650$... Argh! That'll teach me to go watch a friday night movie without putting in a nice low bid first. |
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...Some time 2 days ago at 1050, bought back now at $830. Now watch me be a winner  Nicely played. |
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The morons jumping in at $840 cause they think they are getting cheap coins.
Woot, cancelled my fiat withdraw and bought back in at $832. |
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Argh. Already withdrew all my fiat. Not going to be able to get any more cheap coins for a while.
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Difficulty at end of Sept = 148819200 and now = 707408283 --> 4.75x increase
H-card price at end of Sept = ~5.15 BTC (inc VAT) and now ~ 1.63 BTC (inc VAT) --> 3.16x decrease
Conclusion - this pricing is less attractive than September pricing (if we assume all other things are equal - which is a big assumption, so forgive me).
Punin, I think you've been a hero of the ASIC world. Couldn't ask for better service. I'll sit this batch out if you don't mind, but will be watching for the next one.
It's even worse than that. These boards won't arrive until the next difficulty adjustment, somewhere north of 850M, roughly a 6x increase. These boards are half as profitable. |
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Your sig says "buy and hold". Did you type that before or after you paid 246.79 BTC for an august rig?
After. I learned a very hard, painful lesson. Are you interested in taking me up on my guaranteed 50% fiat profit offer? |
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guys, lets not start arguing, we wont go nowhere ...we all apreciate what punin done in the past, he dont set the prices, ok
I fully support Punin and any other manufacturer setting their prices as high as they want for any reason. I'll continue to purchase the best miners, which right now are the AntMiners. My Bitfury kits will remain half full. But I do take issue with false claims like "made you ROI a long time ago". He could not be more wrong. It's not his fault, but it is a fact. He shouldn't distort the facts. |
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And this is punin's fault? Or yours? What could he have made different? What could you?
I was correcting his claim that I made a ton of money off it. I didn't, I lost of ton of money. |
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Please...cry me a river...
You ROI'ed in flat like a crazy...
If you think that's true, then I have an investment for you. Send me 100 BTC. When the exchange rate doubles, I'll give you 75 BTC. You have a guaranteed 50% profit in fiat. Interested? No? Why not? |
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^ sorry, but this calculation is just totally wrong. You paid an equivalent of 16,000 € if I'm right. And you mined an equivalent of how much since August? 20,000 €?
No, I paid in bitcoins for a device that mines bitcoins. I did not pay in Euros, Dollars, Tulips, or any other form of currency. My ROI, in bitcoins, is a massive loss. |
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1. I don't set the price so please stop calling me greedy. You guys don't seem to realize what I've gone through to deliver you machines on time that made you ROI a long time ago.
I spent 246.79 btc on an Aug rig. You're insane if you think I've mined that much since then. |
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It's so simple to understand but people still just don't get it. It's the MOST basic principle of economics... supply and demand. If you think something is overpriced you have every right to not buy it. Vote with your dollars, bitcoins, euros, whatever. But you have no authority to tell anyone how they should price their products.
But that's the thing. I want to buy Bitfury boards because they've done good in the past. But I'm not going to overspend. I hate to buy something else, but I will if they chose to overcharge. |
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Miner arrives... About week of March 5th -- you will probably not get your 15BTC returned....
They're saying Q1/Q2 delivery. That means end of Q2 delivery at best. Recalculate with a June delivery date. |
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But do they have $2000 per Bitcoin to invest?
Here's a secret. <whisper> People don't have to buy a full bitcoin. </whisper> |
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Huh? Accepting BTC is 100% safe, unlike every other payment method.
How is it 100% safe? Because once it is received to an encrypted wallet, *no one* can take it without the password. You cannot get any safer than that. If you cannot keep a password secure, then you have no business being in the money management position at a business. You can't fault bitcoin for *your* failures. |
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so KNC has 70 percent of the current miner hash rate now or some such on the bitcoin network (on forums someplace)
The network is 6000 TH/s. That's roughly the size of 11,000 Jupiters. KnC has shipped 8,000 Jupiters? |
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we Need to find a generous whale to donate some coins so we can invitie you all for free.
We could get the FBI to sponsor the party! |
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As a multiple business owner, my personal perception is there is a great "Lack Of Trust"
I'm in the process of attempting to accept BTC for a few different companies... but I'm not convinced it's safe.... no matter who I use for a broker, exchanger, etc.
Its not worth LOSING income over trying sway a "niche bunch"
Yet I still look for legit reasons to accept BTC... simply not finding them.
Huh? Accepting BTC is 100% safe, unlike every other payment method. |
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