pirate filter bubble 

libertarianism != neoliberalism 

air cannot be quantified without heavy lobbying 

I think there is a law that concedes a payment delay of 14 days, at least here in Germany.

But Bitcoin is of course a) lawless and b) child of the hyperspeed information age. 

probably the same guy who's also behind http://gblse.com/ 

Das tun sie bereits. Da liegt also das Missverständnis. Es ist eine normale Standard-Kreditkarte (bzw. debit card). Dass die quasi mit Bitcoins geladen ist, wissen die gar nicht und interessiert sie auch nicht.

This seems to be one jolly and prosperous chat channel. Does it belong to the bankruptcy assets to be liquidated?

guess he paid with these bitcoins 

you created Earth? for your kids? 

hello and welcome. 

you can also work for your money like normal people do:

http://coinworker.com/ 

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=luddite+fallacy

Look around you. Where are the flying cars promised 50 years ago and the so desperately needed new efficient and green technologies? Don't believe there's nothing to do.

The problem is rather structural.

It just lacks entrepreneurs taking up the risk to execute. This is also because there are not enough qualified people in certain areas.

We software developers are the new worker class of the 21st century. Good ones are searched for desperately. They're currently trying to lower the barriers, make us more "assembly line" compatible and streamline our efficiency with methodologies like agile, scrum, kanban etc...

Akzeptanzstellen für Kreditkarten sind halt leider etwas weiter verbreitet als welche für Bitcoin 

@laurencefass - In a way, you could say Bitcoin *is* backed by labor.

Miners do verify and sign transactions, this is much like what bank workers do. They're rewarded by transaction fees (and coincidentally today also with newly minted coins, but this won't go on forever).

Would you say bank workers don't do anything meaningful? They'd even be rewarded somehow in a (more complex) LETS.

Now that the value of this labor is determined by the market, and not by the actual amount of spent effort, is something Marx struggled too with his labor theory of value. But it turns out he was wrong.

Much of the work miners do is automated though. But that's the information age. 

yup, Bitcoin is not exactly Freigeld.

I also still hold the view that Freigeld may make sense to push a local economy, but does not make much sense for a currency of global scope.

muss man aber dann auch glück haben wa


löl, jaja diese anarchokapitalisten hier immer, wollte ja nur mal dezent drauf hinweisen, dass die damen der schöpfung bei der bitcoin-revolution vielleicht nicht so ohne weiteres mitspielen werden ne

@OP sounds like Ripple.

Such monetary systems that are backed by "social capital" are fine, but also have drawbacks. For example, they are trust- and reputation-based and thus can't offer privacy.

Bitcoin is exactly modeled to not depend on any trust. Bitcoin just is what it is, a digital currency modeled after a scarce and valuable commodity. Yes it is speculative, but its independence on identities has made it instantly available and usable globally.

After all it's true, money is just information, that's all it is, who owes what to whom, but it's hard to translate this into the real world. Every approach to a monetary system has advantages and disadvantages. People can learn them and use different systems in parallel in the future.

^ harr, nice

skandinavien, schön, muss ich auch mal hin, kann mich aber nich entscheiden wann, weil im sommer will ich dann doch lieber richtige wärme, und im winter erfriert man da ja dann wohl

tjo die kurse, na den höhepunkt hast ja fapasst 

war aber zu der zeit dann eh kein treffen 

aber zur zeit geht auch so grad viel spannendes ab 

many a mickle makes a muckle, many a pirate will loosen his buckle