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2741  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (150Ghash/s) on: March 25, 2011, 10:39:56 AM
Invalid or stale blocks, how often are they expected to show up?

Les offten than you saw Smiley.

I analyzed overnight logs and decided to disable free relay again. I've new version of getwork patch, will test it today and hope that it will definitely solve this irritating problem.

Because the current bitcoin does not support block maturity after 100 confirmations, I temporary disabled this feature back, too.
2742  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (150Ghash/s) on: March 25, 2011, 12:13:58 AM
I also opened registration back again, there's no reason to keep it closed.
2743  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (150Ghash/s) on: March 24, 2011, 11:35:11 PM
Today update:

a) Pool is accepting free transactions again, as you can see in blocks #114887 and #114890. Currently the limit is very tight, I'll monitor the situation and if everything will be allright, I'll rise the limit tomorrow. I'm especially waiting to next spam flooding to analyze logs for timings and latencies. I'm also sorry for higher occurrences of RPC errors and stale blocks in last two hours, I did few restarts of bitcoin backends.

b) Default Bitcoin client needs 120 confirmation for block to be valid, but only 100 confirmations are forced by Bitcoin network itself. Today I changed this rule, so pool is paying out blocks immediately after 100 confirmations. This improvement is targeted especially to impatient users Smiley.
2744  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (150Ghash/s) on: March 24, 2011, 11:26:50 PM
Can you create a way for users to view the raw data of their daily reward along with the systems daily reward?  I like to gather the data in excel form to create charts and also generate more statistics for my own use, and sometimes getting the numbers by highlighting the points on the graphs can be a frustrating process.

Yes, this can be possible, I'm writing it to my TODO list. As I'm rendering reward graphs in javascript, for advanced users there are those data available already. You can check html source of graph page; there are dates and rewards encoded as json arrays Smiley. Of course it isn't too much user friendly Wink
2745  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: A discussion of truthHurts post about slush's pool on: March 24, 2011, 06:47:07 PM
I've seen the flooding happen and have wondered, What's going on?

There are people who find funny that "they can" hurt the Bitcoin. Actually flood the network is two-line bash script, for example. It can be done by 10-year bored children. We cannot do anyting with spamming itself, so we have to invent some methods to live with that.
2746  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: A discussion of truthHurts post about slush's pool on: March 24, 2011, 06:42:46 PM
I accept that you write that only as theoretical possibility, but I'll still response to this.

First, Slush claims that there is a spam transaction problem.

The problem is real, people on #dev channel measured that processing block with 1000 spam tx on the network can block bitcoind for more than 3 seconds every 60 seconds. With current rate between 500-1000 requests/second on the pool, it is up to 3000 getwork requests timeouted or flooding servers (especially the retries from side of miners). So this is well documented problem of bitcoin client and many smart people are working on solution right now.

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So who gets all the fees? Slush is!
Maybe it is slush who is sending all those spam transactions to encourage more fees.

I noticed this in #dev channel week ago, that spammer press all people to pay fees. Actually you can search blockchain that I spent many BTC (maybe more than received) on transaction fees for sending rewards than received from the network (yes, I paid 0.01 fee even for 0.01 payout from the pool). If I'm the spammer, I could implement sendmany few days before I started spamming to save all fees for me. I implemented the sendmany as the (delayed) response for paying fees, which is quite strong evidence that I'm not a spammer Smiley.

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As far as I know, Slush is the only pool operator who does not process free transactions, so he is the one who is profiting the most.

Well, others have strong limits on accepting free transactions, too (there is limitfreerelay switch in new bitcoind). As I was probably the first person who had to solve that and I didn't know about this switch, I solved it quite radically. I'm compilling new bitcoind with limitfreerelay support right now, so the limited support for the transactions will be back today.

By the way, transactions with fees have always higher priority than free txes, so other pools/miners also accept paid tx with the priority over free one. By cutting nonfree transactions I actually don't improve the fee income. So there is no other motivation than solve technical difficulties with many second freezes on the pool.

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Now let me say that I do NOT actually believe that he is doing this. I trust Slush when he says that there is a spam problem and that his ban on free transactions is temporary. But it is something to think about....

OK, I just explained it a bit Smiley.
2747  Economy / Marketplace / Re: german privacy foundation: can someone verify their currently not accepting btc on: March 24, 2011, 05:55:32 PM
Is that a no-go for the bounty?

I like GPF, they have strong voice in Germany and they're supporting Tor. I'm also using their privacybox. When they publish bitcoin address as standard donation method, I'll send you my (3BTC) bounty even this is not an eshop.
2748  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (150Ghash/s) on: March 24, 2011, 04:54:04 PM
dacoinminster, SunAvatar, thank you for your support Smiley.

Because payments are going well, I started automatic sending again. Block maturity checks and payouts are performed every hour at 0 min. First automatic payment will go at 17:00 UTC.
2749  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: A discussion of truthHurts post about slush's pool on: March 24, 2011, 09:54:52 AM
This is when the blocks were confirmed and paid out.  That is different from when the block is found. 

Block 114425      (2011-03-21 17:00:59)

Not a pool block, where did you find this?

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Block 114557      (2011-03-22 17:13:51)

It's pool block, but your timestamp is bad, did you recalculate it for your timezone?

Time difference between BlockExplorer and pool stats (both UTC) is 13 seconds. Keep in mind that the timestamps are not identical. Block timestamp is from time when block was created (by getwork()), but pool stats are when the block was reported.

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Block 114706      (2011-03-23 17:39:59)

Not a pool block.

Sorry, maybe I totally missed your evidence, but I don't understand what exactly happen.
2750  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (150Ghash/s) on: March 24, 2011, 08:41:35 AM
Because first two batches were processed correctly, I send the rest right now. Few thousands of BTC is on the way, expect them every minute Smiley.
2751  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: A discussion of truthHurts post about slush's pool on: March 24, 2011, 03:19:54 AM
Well, to be honest, I don't understand all your claims clearly, which is probably problem of my poor english. I'll try to explain a bit:

Quote from: truthHurts
While is was clearly noticeable to those who have watched this the last few weeks, something changed in the last 24 hours as slush's block count in the hall of fame hasn't increased from the 96 blocks it is currently sitting at, but the received balance of account 1FijBR5s3EU1JS3UokzTZbkAibgL4SXzxm has increased by 100 bitcoins.  It appears I've missed something.

Yes, I didn't found a block for a while. Why? Because I'm probably unlucky and also I'm disconnecting my rig pretty often because of Long Polling testing.

This wallet is not mine. That explain a lot - the wallet balance is absolutely unrelated to my mining Wink. You probably found them from link to blockexplorer on pool stats page. Two comments to this:

a) I explained in the pool thread before that there is bug in block number detection in stats page. Again: It's because I'm using many bitcoind instances. When one instance found a block and I ask another instance for current block number, it can give me incorrect answer. It isn't critical and I have too much work to do before fix it.

b) Why I should point stats page to stolen blocks?

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After doing some digging as to what would have caused slush's block count to stop increasing while this address is still collecting bitcoins I stumbled across a post on the bitcoin forums from a user (h00ters) who accused slush of “Slush is taking BTC from the top when no one watches..... “.  The message from h00ters was posted at 2011-03-22 05:46:38 in the bitcoinpool.com thread.  Now take a closer look at the last 3 blocks found by [ 1FijBR5s3EU1JS3UokzTZbkAibgL4SXzxm ] with the time of h00ters post. 

Lol, I remember to the h00ters post, but I took it as fun. I really didn't mentioned that somebody will take it seriously and start such investigation Wink.

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Slush has stated his hall of fame page is delayed by 1 hour <seen here>, which leaves him enough time to see the post from h00ters, and put a stop on his block count from going up. 

Erm, why I should, as a scammer, stop scamming all of you when somebody just call me a scammer? as far as I remember, h00ters didn't tell any reason, maybe except it was unusually long round at the moment or whatever. This don't make a sense for me.

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and to top off this entire day slush is now having problems with his wallet.dat file and can't pay anyone out, and has quit tracking confirmed rewards as of a few hours ago. 

OK, I'm sending payments again (not automatically, with some delay, but it is working). You are saying that I cannot have technical troubles, right? Join us on #bitcoin-dev or watch the logs, you'll see all details about my troubles and how I'm solving that. There is nothing magical, I'm using bleeding edge bitcoin with custom changes, it may happen. You can ask m0mchil or jgarzik, two well respected guys about specific troubles which I had with payments. Again, it did not affect mining, I didn't lost single coin. You're doing problem from something which is not related to possible scam at all.

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I believe he has realized that a bug in his code ultimately has results in two blocks revealing what it is he's been doing since 2011-02-11.  h00ters called him out, and he is now in a panic to try and undo his mistakes.  I don't know about you, but 4900 bitcoins being taken by the pool operator from his own pool is enough to make me say I've had enough of slush's pool and I will not continue to help him put more bitcoins into his personal slush fund.

I many times claimed that pooled mining IS vulnerable from side of cheating operator and it IS trivial to scam. But nobody will do it in the way as you proposed, because he must be an idiot to scam like this. For example, there is no reason to collect all stealed blocks under one mining account, there is no reason to show those stealed block in stats and ABSOLUTELY no reason to make this mining account as top miner :-D. If you want, come to Prague, I'll show you my mining rigs (this is old version of the first one, I have two like this).

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If you know what's good for you, get out of this pool.  Any other pool is probably more honest than this pool.

Ok, it's your opinion. Only me know the truth if I'm stealing blocks or not. So it is pointless to say anything to you; looks like you're convicted that I'm the biggest scammer around. But I hope that I explained a lot to see that IF I'm stealing blocks, I'm DEFINITELY not doing it this way.
2752  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (150Ghash/s) on: March 24, 2011, 02:19:34 AM
Hi slush:

I know you mentioned previously you were experiencing some payment issues but I saw that my payment threshold was crossed within the last hour and a payment appears to be sent ( the funds are no longer in my account). I have yet to see the transaction within my client, is this normal? I do have a fully update to date block chain.

Everything is fine, your payout has been processed and is waiting to confirmation. You can cross-check it on BitcoinCharts page.
2753  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (150Ghash/s) on: March 24, 2011, 02:17:42 AM
Current status:

The issue with broken bitcoind is fixed correctly. The only one 'problem' is that people who had received payouts during yesterday(UTC) don't see those payments in 'payout history'. I'll fix it tomorrow manually. I paid out all pending "confirmed rewards" from yesterday before few minutes.

Today I also implemented "sendmany", the new way for batch payouts, which save Bitcoin network resources significantly. As it is in testing mode, I need to send payments manually for some time (one or two days) and watch if everything goes well. At this moment we're waiting to two batch transactions to be included in a block. If those two transactions will be included into blocks without problems, I'll send all pending payouts during next day.

You can also watch all pending batch payouts from the pool on BitcoinCharts. Pool transactions are usually those records with tens of addresses inside.

Pool unrelated note to sendmany transactions: This is very new feature and only few clients in Bitcoin network actually broadcast it. This means that you probably won't see transactions in your client before they have at least one confirmation. You'll see new balance in your wallet immediately after transaction will be included to block. This will get better as there will be more Bitcoin clients broadcasting sendmany transactions (probably version 0.3.21).
2754  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: A discussion of truthHurts post about slush's pool on: March 23, 2011, 11:42:47 PM
Block 114706 was found by Tycho's Pool at DeepBit.net.

On Deepbit's statistics page, it is listed as:

Time = 23.03.2011 17:40:09
Found In = 2h 09m
Shares = 104786


Edit: The simple explanation that fits Occam's Razor is that all of the "anomalies" that TheTruthHurts raises are just different instances of the same acknowledged bug (that even TheTruthHurts believes to be a bug in some of the anomalies) and that the reason for the coincidence of the "missing" blocks always going to the same Address is because they were solved by Tycho's pool which accounts for ~10%+ of the network's entire hashing strength.

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2755  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (150Ghash/s) on: March 23, 2011, 10:52:42 PM
As there is expected next slashdot wave, I closed the pool registration again. This is just precaution - I don't need yet another problem at this moment, need to sleep sometime Smiley. As the issue with transactions will be solved, I'll open registration again.
2756  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: A discussion of truthHurts post about slush's pool on: March 23, 2011, 10:49:51 PM
theGECK, thanks, I'll respond as I'll have free time (I have to fix payments now and run tx fix on stage, so probably tomorrow). I have (of course) strong evidence that this post is completely wrong, but I have to solve problems as they are going. As I'm scamming the pool all the time, I hope that few hours more to respond does not make a difference :-).
2757  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (150Ghash/s) on: March 23, 2011, 10:47:27 PM
So we will not get paid until at least tomorrow?  It would be nice if you could refute truthHurts claim as well he said it rather bluntly I know but it should be addressed.

Payments are different problem, I'm working on it and they should go out in hours or two. Unfortunately there went break more things at the same time, I'm doing it one after one. The problem of TX spam and the crashed bitcoin node are both bitcoin client related, but unrelated each other.

I don't want answer to truthHurts here as I don't want flame here, but of course I have evidence that he's completely wrong. OK, let's talk about it in separate thread, please.
2758  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (150Ghash/s) on: March 23, 2011, 10:40:30 PM
To all people - I understand that you can have some reason to complaining or for not believing me for some reason. Please start calm discussion, show me your arguments and let me talk about my arguments. It can be more constructive than showing middle fingers, really.
2759  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (150Ghash/s) on: March 23, 2011, 10:37:39 PM
I understand why you are doing this but I think your pool is becoming too big and any changes you make (even if temporary) has a huge affect on the bitcoin network.

This problem is not related to the pool - other people (on IRC) have the same troubles. There is only the difference that I'm more on the eyes and people are more sensitive. I understand this can turn to politics. But for now it is just technical issue and the best thing to do is to solve it, not to chat about it.

I have probably the working patch already, I have to test it with my rig over the night. As this is very critical, I don't want to pull fresh patch directly to the production. I believe that people understand this (those who _want_ to understand).
2760  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (150Ghash/s) on: March 23, 2011, 10:26:11 PM
The following is what I've observed for the last few weeks. 

OK, please create new thread (really!). This looks like loooong flame and I don't want to mix it with pool support. Thanks.
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