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2741  Economy / Speculation / Re: China on: November 09, 2018, 11:45:27 PM
What will be the effects of China's self imposed exclusion from crypto? not only to the bitcoin price, but to China's economy if/when bitcoin goes huge?

Firstly, obviously there are certain restrictions put on cryptocurrency businesses within China. But that doesn't mean that Chinese investors are just completely gone now.

We've already seen some mining companies within China as well as exchanges relocate to overseas locations as a result, and even though they are not technically within the bounds of China, the same investors are still within the market.

I don't even think that it's that hard at the moment to get ahold of bitcoin or sell bitcoin within China with all the p2p alternatives. Even though the payment processors say that they're going to crack down on these activities, it's very hard to regulate correctly.

The biggest long term issue arising from this is probably the affect on China itself, they'd losing a lot of revenue if they were to regulate and tax these crypto entities instead of not letting them take part, imho.
2742  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-10-17] Is bitcoin real money? Tech giant Google says ‘NO’ on: November 09, 2018, 11:26:16 PM

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To promote the feature, the tech giant released an advert starring The Daily Show comedians Dulcé Sloan and Ronny Chieng, dressed as Google employees, screening calls.

Are these two people necessarily spokespeople for google, though?

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The minute-long advert ridicules bitcoin mining, stating the activity costs more in energy than the profit it earns, and even describes cryptocurrencies as “money that isn’t real”.

I mean, these people aren't wrong when it comes to bitcoin mining. Most people tend to think that bitcoin mining is profitable, while in reality, unless you have very cheap electricity and have a whole farm of mining rigs as well as cheap equipment, you are very unlikely to make a profit just by solo mining or joining a pool.

But they're certainly wrong about cryptocurrencies not being real money. It's much realer than fiat currencies in my opinion simply because nobody is able to 'print' more of it, when they feel the need to, as to inflate the supply. But again, they may not represent google's stance on the matter at all.
2743  Economy / Economics / Re: Thai Revenue Department to use blockchain to track taxes on: November 09, 2018, 11:22:44 PM
I don't think that this will make much of a difference to people who pay their taxes regularly. There is a lack of information when it comes to how exactly blockchain will be incorporated into the tax verification process, but it certainly seems like it would increase the reliability and integrity of the entire system.

And it's not just tracking taxes either. A lot of other countries are exploring using blockchain technology to issue their own national tokens/cryptocurrencies.

Whether this is good or bad is up to debate, but I'd personally not be too excited with all these centralised projects that simply use blockchain. It really means nothing in terms of the development of decentralised currencies imho.
2744  Economy / Economics / Re: Banks must adopt new technologies to survive an ongoing “extinction phase” on: November 07, 2018, 09:23:34 AM
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/01/fintech-banks-face-extinction-phase-amid-new-financial-technology.html
Rapid changes in financial technology, or fintech, are shaking up the global banking industry.
Banks must adopt new technologies to survive an ongoing “extinction phase” wrought by such tech, according to Stephen Bird, Citi’s global consumer banking CEO.
While new technologies cannot be ignored, bankers say the primary aim is to use them to provide the best service to customers.
Hard figures on how much the new wave of technology has disrupted retail banking are hard to come by, but analysts have stressed that the challenge is real.
Do you think the tech here includes blockchain and crypto?

I realy don't think that banks will be "extinct" any time soon.

Even with blockchain and bitcoin potentially going mainstream in the very near future, it is foreseeable that banks would simply start offering services that integrate these technologies instead of being totally replaced by them like many others have suggested.

To me, it's obvious that banks right now can only stay relevant if they are able to adapt to changes in technological trends, which includes cryptocurrencies. I wouldn't be surprised if banks start using blockchain ledgers to keep internal records in the near future and offer investment packages revolving around crypto as well, in order to suit demands.
2745  Economy / Speculation / Re: Regarding Bull runs and speculations on: November 07, 2018, 09:04:02 AM
Im curious as to why many people "hope" for a bull run? How is this bull run gunna happen if everyone is hoping for a bull run.

I essentially think the mega run was last year, why would any new money come into it after what happened last year? People saw the rise and the crazy fall and loss it does. No one is in it for technology its all about wanting to get rich. I don't see how people think a bull run is coming..

Care to help me understand how you think this?

All i see in crypto is PURE speculation and everyone will agree with ANYTHING that helps them secure there beliefs in there own investment.

First of all, I don't get why just because some people choose to speculate on the price of bitcoin would automatically mean that the price of bitcoin wouldn't be able to go up anymore? I mean, these are really not mutually exclusive by any means.

You're right about last year being one of the biggest bull markets that we've seen, though. And I do believe that last year's bull market will probably be the most in magnitude that we'll see in a while, to be frank, due to the fact that now the entire bitcoin sphere is a lot more mature and it's harder for such percentages of gains to be achieved.

But bull markets are a part of the normal cycles that occur within bitcoin, and with the halving coming up in 2 years time, I would definitely be confident in saying that a bull market would be due as soon as prices bottom out, which I believe isn't right now. Of course, I don't expect it to be anything near last year's growth, though.
2746  Economy / Speculation / Re: All-Time-High will happen again after Bitcoin Halving on 2020? on: November 06, 2018, 10:16:55 PM
What's your insights? Is it possible?

- First Bitcoin halving happened in November 28, 2012
- Price spike to over $1k USD a year after around December 2013

- Second Bitcoin halving happened in July 9, 2016
- Price spike to over $19k USD around December 2017

-Third Bitcoin halving is expected to happen around May 2020
- New ATH on Q4 2021 to January 2022?

It's very possible.

It's obvious to me that bitcoin prices would return to a bullish market come 2020 due to the halving. As bitcoins get scarcer to mine, their value has historically appreciated both because of this increased scarcity as well as the fact that markets are psychologically wired to react to news of block halvings in the past.

Whether or not there would be an all time high is unknown at this stage simply because of the size of last year's pumps, but I'd say that it's probable due to all of the new institutions that are becoming invested within bitcoin. Regardless of whether it happens, the prices right now imo are extremely cheap and should be taken advantage of through dollar cost average buying.
2747  Economy / Economics / Re: Why Malta is the most favored Location for Crypto Exchanges? on: November 06, 2018, 10:08:38 PM
You pretty much nailed the reason.

It all comes down to whether or not the government is supportive of crypto businesses or not. Malta is obviously really one of the countries that are pushing for crypto regulation with some pretty nice incentives for businesses who do want to be based in their country.

Ultimately, I think this is the way to go forward. Instead of being negative towards bitcoin with countries like India with their draconian measures, I reckon it's going to benefit the government as well as crypto businesses to actively try to regulate the exchange scene with positive regulation without overly strict rules, as the revenue in the future would be tremendous.
2748  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: On legality of Bitcoin - legal till banned or banned till legal on: November 06, 2018, 07:50:31 PM
I definitely think that in the majority of countries around the world, bitcoin is legal until some form of restriction gets put onto it by the government.

The reason is simple - there are many unregulated fields that are operating right now, none of them necessarily having any legislation around them. But it doesn't mean that they are illegal because there isn't anything explicit saying that.

It makes no sense to prosecute someone without any laws backing it, but of course, if you live in a totalitarian state that would be completely different. But all laws that attempt to ban the use of bitcoin is honestly useless because there is simply 0 enforceability around it with the decentralisation of bitcoin.
2749  Economy / Economics / Re: the future real money on: November 06, 2018, 07:44:25 PM
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if i see lately there are lots of altcoins popping up, especially in the digital world and whether for the next few years the function of real money itself will be eroded by the presence of virtual payment equipment ...? I had time to think whether in the next few years we would be making virtual money payments ...?

What is your definition of 'real money'? Is it just fiat currency?

In that case, I would not consider that to be real money because the central banks and government supporting these banks are able to debase the currency that they issue because at the end of the day, they hold all the power to print more of it whether on paper or electronically. In that sense, bitcoin is a lot "realer" than fiat.

But it's not hard to see bitcoin potentially playing a much bigger role in global commerce, especially online commercial activity, in the future due to its convenience and nearly feeless structure, as well as its capped supply. I honestly don't find it hard to fathom, we're already in this parallel bitcoin economy stage somewhat.
2750  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Chinese court recognized BC as private property on: November 06, 2018, 07:38:32 PM
We've known this previously.

There was at no stage a ban on bitcoin as something that you are able to hold. The bans came in the form of bitcoin exchanges and also investments relating to bitcoin, but China seems to still hold a neutral stance when it comes to ownership alone.

I doubt that this will be able to affect the bitcoin sphere that much, partially due to the fact that China's influence on bitcoin has already diminished thus far. But it is a good clarification for all the bitcoin holders within China, and good to see that the government isn't going overboard and attempt a futile attempt at banning everything.
2751  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Do credit cards lock your account if they see you buying bitcoin? on: November 06, 2018, 10:42:40 AM
A while ago I believe there was an article about coinbase's credit card deposit/buy BTC services not available to certain credit card holders within the US due to the providers blocking access, but apart from that, I haven't heard anything of this nature.

There may be cards that doesn't allow you to purchase bitcoins interest free, aka you'd be paying all the interests on your purchases at the regular cash advance rates.

If your purchase is legitimate and you're not doing anything shady, and your credit card provider isn't blocking it proactively, there shouldn't be any issues. But if you want to be clear about their policy and interest charged on crypto purchases, then you should clarify with them directly.
2752  Economy / Exchanges / Re: buying BTC with FIAT. on: November 06, 2018, 04:08:18 AM
:)Hi all.I'm looking for the best way to currently buy BTC/altcoins using fiat : i.e ,from bank to exchange and back to bank, whilst trying to avoid high charges on some exchanges , and from u.k bank ( barclays) .i know it's not an easy one,but if anyone has a good "route" i would be very gratefull to know possible options.  If you can help ,many thanks for advice . Smiley

With Kraken delisting GBP, you might as well forget about buying/depositing it on any major international exchanges. The fees of converting GBP to EUR or whatnot to deposit onto Bitstamp would probably make it not worth it anyways.

I'd say that localbitcoins would be your number one option here if you're purchasing small to medium amounts, you can pretty much find offers with any bank and there is relatively low risk as long as you follow the escrow instructions.

I know that there are some big time traders with thousands of trades that are operating with GBP so for large amounts you could even negotiate the rate with them. I mean, it's very flexible overall. Especially if you're trading internationally and also, KYC is not necessarily required.
2753  Economy / Speculation / Re: Who/what will fuel the next bull run? on: November 06, 2018, 04:02:18 AM
Many people expect there will be another bull run in the more or less near future. But who, whose money, what will be the fuel for next bull run? New investors? Smart money? Why? Do elaborate, I am very curious to know your thoughts.

Honestly, bull markets can simply be caused by the market becoming excited.

A lot of the reason why last year's bull market was so large in magnitude was indeed because of the fear of missing out factor within it, and also the fact that everyone within the market seemed to be extremely optimistic during that stretch of time. That itself does not need any causes because of the cycles that are within the market.

The bitcoin halving could also play a role, though, with the block rewards becoming scarcer. Of course, there must be new adopters to fuel this long term growth which I think it's fair to say we're seeing right now despite the bear market, with both individuals and corporations.
2754  Economy / Speculation / Re: Market still stagnant! on: November 06, 2018, 03:53:53 AM
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All investors nowadays are still waiting for the market recovery  and since the BER months started. which is still hoping to become profitable again , but unfortunately the market is so stagnant and didn't shows a sign for a progress until now which is unlike before  year 2017 , during ber moths market growth rate gradually increasing.

I personally do not think that a bull market is necessarily around the corner right now.

With the current period of consolidation and sideways movements, I expect this current trend to continue well into the future, potentially even mid to late next year. Overall, there just hasn't been enough time elapsed from the bear market to say that it has bottomed 100% yet. And also, there seems to be no potential causes for a complete change in sentiment in the entire market in the foreseeable future.

I'd expect stagnation and occasional dumps to happen over the next 6 month period or so, before any real chance of recovery can be seen. That said, it is a great time to accumulate due to the low prices and the fact that the bottom should be very close, and that many institutions have shown interest in bitcoin which should cause speculative interest, regardless of whether there are any actual benefits that brings.
2755  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you ever wonders why we are using this paper as money? on: November 06, 2018, 03:49:36 AM
Just want to share the details about the people who ever thinks that why we need to use just paper as currency and we all are working hard to get those paper.People claiming that bitcoin is not virtual so it cannot be considered as money or they call it as scam or ponzi but they are using just papers for centuries and those paper currency were made out of thin air.

Unfortunately, most day to day transactions are indeed still carried out via fiat currencies.

It is also important to note that fiat currencies do not only exist in paper, but can also be in the form of online, electronic currencies. Even blockchains can be fiat currencies if the founder or the creator is able to exert direct control over it, which is something that is impossible with decentralised cryptos like bitcoin.

There are various ignorant entities out there that claim that bitcoin is a ponzi scheme, but like you said, if anything, fiat is the biggest illusion of wealth that there ever was. With bitcoin, it's backed by trust of the community but there is actually something that is tangible to trust - the capped supply of coins. With fiat, the power to create currency out of thin air is often abused that leads to debasement.
2756  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SEC tightens the noose on ICO-funded startups on: November 04, 2018, 07:34:30 PM
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Essentially what the SEC has done here is limit ICOs from being sold to the poor, which is one of the main initiatives that fueled its growth in the 1st place.

It definitely doesn't make sense to me why they would want to do this.

Sure, you could argue that people with more of a net worth would be able to make better decisions with their money, but if they were investing in regulated ICOs that have been screened, who cares if lower income workers invests in that? It's their money ultimately. If anything, this is an obvious attempt to try and restrict access to these investments and to discourage ICOs from starting in the first place.

But as you said, it is very geographically limited and we've already seen tons of crowdfunded projects in the past not offer their products to the US and China, so not really surprising.
2757  Economy / Economics / Re: Commodities Gold/ Silver on: November 04, 2018, 07:30:35 PM
They are definitely alternative store of values in my opinion. Even though bitcoin has been increasing in market cap and I believe will be the most convenient and thus used decentralised asset in the future, precious metals should still have a fairly significant place in this.

I don't know if there will be a direct correlation between precious metals prices and bitcoin prices, but for sure, I think the value is undervalued right now.

There simply hasn't been a bull market for a long time, and with the stock market potentially heading into recession, we could see a resurgence of silver and gold prices soon. Again though, I doubt that it will ever exceed the growth and potential of bitcoin and silver since it's so inconvenient to actually use.
2758  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Any possible legal issues of doing transactions with cryptocurrencies? on: November 04, 2018, 09:49:57 AM
I'm new to cryptocurrencies and I would like to know, is there any possible legal issues with cryptocurrencies?  I'll appreciate your valuable ideas and please help me.

It depends on where you are located and the jurisdiction that you are under.

But generally, there shouldn't be much of a risk as long as you are transacting with bitcoin only, or bitcoin for goods or services without the involvement of fiat currencies. If you are trading bitcoin with fiat currencies, especially with peer to peer platforms, you may have to check up on whether or not you need a license for that.

You may also need to check up with whether or not you'll need to pay CGT on certain transactions, even if it was just purchisang goods/services, depending on your country's definition for CGT rules, it may still constitute a capital gain.
2759  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-10-29] Bitcoin trading uses so much power that it could push global temper on: November 04, 2018, 09:32:53 AM
Bitcoin mining does use a lot of power. There's no doubt about it.

However, there isn't really an issue with it using that much power as long as the energy that is being used is renewable and environmental friendly, such as hydroelectricity, and wind power plants. In that case, it does not cause any damage, at least not any more than say, banks or the mastercard/visa networks.

In many cases in fact, IIRC, bitcoin mining is using up excess renewable energy that would have been wasted anyways.

So thus, it's really non-issue in my opinion. Besides, this power is going towards a purpose, it's not just wasted.
2760  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-10-24]Police Arrest Indian Crypto Exchange Co-Founder for Unregistered. . on: November 04, 2018, 09:25:21 AM
India is really going overboard with their crypto policy.

I honestly don't know what they are trying to achieve here. Them restricting access to bitcoin ATMs will pretty much only mean that crypto exchanges will dry up and run out of business in their country, doesn't mean that it will prevent anyone from accessing bitcoin at all.

But I guess this does show just how determined they are to stop bitcoin, whatever their motivations are. Though, they need to realise that even if they do ban all exchanges and all bitcoin ATMs and companies altogether, there will always be p2p trading that they can't stop.
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