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2741  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I missed the boat is not new concept.. on: November 11, 2021, 12:30:20 PM
I'm pretty sure that one day people will regret the missed time when the price of Bitcoin was only about $60 000, just as many today feel the same when they remember how cheap Bitcoin was just a little over 1 year ago - I believe most remember what happened in March 2020 when a pandemic was declared, the price of 1 BTC fell below $5000.

It is true that it is never too late to invest in Bitcoin, but it is also true that you need to know how to choose the right moment - history has shown that time just before or after halving is an ideal entry point even for those who just want short-term profit. The worst thing is to do nothing and talk all the time about what it would be like to invest in Bitcoin - some people never learn and stay on the sidelines forever.
That's what i also wonder that how people are busy making lame excuses always when Bitcoin prices are low - "that it's not going to survive and it will be dead" and when the prices are high they say - "we miss the boat" and this will continue as always.The pandemic prior time was not much historical for bitcoin growth as they were too low but slowly when the investors find the new way to gain some profits and secure their future the prices also start to surge heavily and see now we are above the $60k at this time.Same is the situation now also.Yes it's not too late but waiting for the boat to leave will make you no coiner only and boat only have 21 million seats many occupied and rest filling out fast if you know what i mean.

~snip~
Quote the original reply or any post you want to reply in proper way as it doesn't seems right and indicates that you have written all the stuff so make it correct.

See i am only motivating you all to invest within time and not always make such excuses as it won't benefit you.But i have strictly mentioned bitcoin but if you apply the same to other shitcoins then it will not work because it's better to miss shitcoin's boat as it will sink soon so don't enter it but if still you want to do that do it on your own risk.

I'm sorry but your message is a little bit inconsistent in my opinion, on one hand you enjoin newbies to "stay safe" and on the other hand you encourage them to buy a high volatile (and then risky) asset at its All Time High.  Undecided That's not a responsible behavior IMO. Newbies should be very cautious before investing large amounts of money at the ATH of any asset but more especially cryptocurrencies because they are among the highest volatile assets available. They should DY(T)OR before investing, only invest what they can afford to lose and don't except more guarantees than in a gambling game. BTC and the crypto world won't earn anything good in the long run by creating disappointed, frustrated and angry people.
This is not a trading guide where i have asked newbies to invest large sums of money as i myself also don't have huge funds available to invest so why would i do that? Second this thread is only indicating to some past mistakes of the members who ignore the bitcoin importance and keep on repeating the same phrase and now regrets it so just avoid those mistakes was my concern.You are saying that i said it to buy at ATH so ask yourself people who have invested at ATH of 2017 which was around $20k are now in loss or dead? They have gained more than 4x on their investment at the current prices.It is just our way of overviewing the things so be wise man.The whole market is risky but the main risk is not to have any bitcoin in future.
2742  Economy / Gambling / Re: Roobet.com | Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino 🦘 on: November 11, 2021, 10:28:26 AM
Thats true, license is one indication that you're in the right casino however we know its not only the basis.
What exactly do you mean by the "right" casino here? The license of a casino does not protect you in any way from someone recreating Roobet, for example, and wanting to scam you. Even if they did, it would be very easy to forge the license in such a case. The existence of a license should therefore never be relied upon when you want to check whether you are on a fake site or not.
A step on choosing a casino to play in. License is important but it doesnt necessarily mean the site is already trusted, its just one indication, and as I have mentioned its not only the basis. Because it depends on their build reputation through the gamblers who play on their casino, and usually it takes time before we can judge if its reputable.
The casino usually display the license on the site and this way gamblers came to know about it and have say more trust on that particular casino over the other without license.With time players are becoming more cautious and check each detail beforehand so casino's go this way.But as said before also don't blindly trust them as you funds are your responsibility so play with care.
2743  Economy / Gambling / Re: Rollbit.com | Crypto's Most Rewarding Casino 👑 on: November 11, 2021, 10:16:01 AM
Lot of discussion about the latest Rollbot NFT trend and it seems it's going well with they being traded on marketplace at very good price also.But we are missing the on casino talks also like the leaderboard and when i looked today then i found that Rollbit Boss @MalteseFalcon has displayed his username and he has wagered around $788,634,500 which is an insane amount and was completely blown when i looked at the leaderboard.The whales are putting some real funds out there..
Rollbot NFT's became the topic for a while here as a new features of Rollbit and its a huge success, not surprising why we cant get over it especially the price is quite expensive now.

Anyway that total wagered amount is really insane.
I guess it should be understood, it is not like some other topic that has nothing to do with rollbit neither, it is literally about rollbit and the latest thing that they have done. Right now the latest thing that they did, which also raised hundreds of thousands of dollars is the rollbot NFT that they did. That is a thing that we should be talking about, if they did something and we stopped talking about in a few days then there would be a problem.

When a casino does something and people talking about it all the time then it is a good thing and we should be talking about it, that means it is working and they are actually doing something right as well. This means it is working as intended.
I didn't mention that we are going off topic or not discussing about Rollbit but what i was referring to was that while we are having discussions about the latest Rollbots someone was busy on wagering $788 million on the casino which is surprising for me and shared with you all.The latest trend should always be in the discussion so that the community is aware about the new things and all the necessary information about what they are discussing.
2744  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: My Past three months bitcoin journey on: November 11, 2021, 09:55:58 AM
Winning. You made the best decision of your life; I appreciate it. It's pretty simple: Save Bitcoin and build your wealth. The best advice is to quit eating junk food forever.
It might seems to be simple that holding is easy but it takes a lot of effort on the contrary side because you have to bear all that crash,dips and FUD and panic sell.Suppose you see some green candles on the charts and then you are happy to see profits but then suddenly all those crazy shit begins and they again tumble you feel frustrated also but the fact is if you are long term holder then it won't hurt you much and you only need to be calm as many are and many not and then price increases you are in profits.I personally have gone through these sentiments lot of time but believe this patience will benefit you in long run and you won't be regretting selling at this or that.

I would rather say it's good to give up junk completely but i am also of the opinion that you can enjoy some cheat meals in between and to have your favourite food sometimes as this is also nice enjoyment and often we need to have what we crave for.But there is difference between rare case and most often so make your investment with whatever you can.
2745  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 11, 2021, 09:47:28 AM
Here is one more image i made out in my free time :




Is the time axis going right to left on this? That's going to get misunderstood a lot.
Actually made that intentionally to tease all those who prints different charts or time axis to claim btc is dead or will not be able to stay above these levels.So just want to tell them anyway you could see bitcoin it will have surge in with time span even if you take a reverse step back the target will be reached. Wink
2746  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk Youtube channel - what would you like to see? on: November 10, 2021, 12:36:44 PM
Cyrus could check the stats after the release of the first video to see if there is a certain region where a lot of the views come from. Another option could be that at the end of the video he asks the viewers to vote if they would like to see subtitles in their local languages for future videos and for which languages. A link in the video description could be posted to a site where they can cast their votes, for example.
Generating captions in the local languages would definitely have an influence over the audience reach and as per YouTube creator reports the views on video with auto generated captions or synchronized captions are more than on the normal video without captions.But it is time consuming task but the members have volunteered for the same but the video editor needs to sync it with the timing and make changes to it and it would take some more time to add each subtitles for the local languages as there are more than 80 languages globally.

Second if you see the reports we can find out that top countries with most YouTube views are like USA and India followed by Brazil and then other's:



The highest paying audience is also from the USA which means if the targeted audience for the channel came from US it would have great chance of generating more revenue also.But if you see the top country is like USA and India and there is no need for captions to them as most of population understand English but then there are many who doesn't find it suitable to watch without subtitles or best if captions are in local language.The regional views are per this :


So the description could be setup or prepare a summary report after the first episode is published and wait for some days to have an accurate idea about the views count and geographical testing of the video.Then as you said along with it voting option should be given for the local languages.But for that there is need to aware the local community and have reach to them which members could do by promoting the channel in their respective local board so we witness more audience on the channel.Suppose there are only 200-300 views the results or voting will not give correct results as we are targeting global reach.

So we can wait for the first video to be aired and then monitor the growth and collectively make contributions for the channel growth.


https://medium.com/@ChannelMeter/youtubes-top-countries-47b0d26dded
2747  Economy / Economics / Re: Jefferies sells Gold to buy Bitcoin on: November 10, 2021, 12:16:48 PM
It is yet another example that Bitcoin is the best safe-haven asset and the best hedge against inflation, managers start acting as if it were:
That's why it is termed as deflationary asset against rising inflation because if you are holding any other financial assets like gold or any other they will devalue over time as they are mostly pegged to USD or local fiat and we all know fiat is worthless paper and the government's are taking full effort to create hyperinflation with printing more and more notes out of thin air.You could easily check all the currencies and make their past comparison and you will automatically find out that they have been reducing in value reluctantly from long time whereas btc has shown growth at an unexpected rate over these 13 years and now crossed $65k mark so many are shifting the momentum towards it no doubt he is also doing the same and he knows the right option is bitcoin.

I think in the long term gold will continue to have value mainly as costume jewelry, but as a store of value Bitcoin is going to eat into it.
Gold was safe heaven in the past but it still is not moving a step and people are living in some kind of delusional world where gold is best option to them.They are just not taking out research about the gold to find out it has not given any return from last 10 years and the little pump in prices shakes off the community like million dollars profit has been poured to the basket.Making comparison of Bitcoin with gold is wrong or calling it digital gold also because it's worth more than that.You needs to deposit your gold bonds and even the real gold in lockers to the central authority and still it's losing value like nothing.As per one image posted by @Ratimov the gold investment of $1000 are worth $996 at the current prices which is insane and still people believe in it? I posted a relevant meme in WO about the same and here it is :



Gold is like holding to the fiat only which is going to be zero with time and those who don't find it right are still living in some kind of government created imaginary world where everything is under control but they don't tell it's under central control and bitcoin is the key to the real world.
2748  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 10, 2021, 09:02:31 AM
Here is one more image i made out in my free time :



These little dips again are just a step back to pull price slingshot with more pressure to hit hard and break the $100k target.If you are holding it then profits flood are coming your way and if not don't stand in between because btc is going to take all shitcoiners and their useless talks away within one hard hit.
2749  Economy / Gambling / Re: Rollbit.com | Crypto's Most Rewarding Casino 👑 on: November 10, 2021, 07:50:43 AM
Lot of discussion about the latest Rollbot NFT trend and it seems it's going well with they being traded on marketplace at very good price also.But we are missing the on casino talks also like the leaderboard and when i looked today then i found that Rollbit Boss @MalteseFalcon has displayed his username and he has wagered around $788,634,500 which is an insane amount and was completely blown when i looked at the leaderboard.The whales are putting some real funds out there..
I have been a long time never seen the update about who got the winner. That was insane! $788M wagered is very big money. seems like he spends a lot of time here, he just joined 5 months ago, has been getting $2 M rewarded and $81K rollbacks. He almost gets the Vibranium title, this happens when he reached $1B wagered. I'm interested to see him reach the title for the first time here. Or maybe any other whales can defeat his position, who knows.

I am also interested to see how fast he can conquer the Vibranium title as he is not too far away from this level and at the current pace he will get it soon like more than $788 million have been already gone and now only few more left.He has also gained the first position on leaderboard with crazy rewards claimed also so let's see him for some more time.
2750  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: My Past three months bitcoin journey on: November 10, 2021, 07:36:28 AM
This is a very good long term investment strategy and I can say for  a certain that you're in the right direction. I'm planning to do something similar with Eth, BNC or LTC.

How long do you plan to go before stopping to take profits?

I haven't read through the entire thread to know if my question has been answered. Forgive me if I have but I'm very excited with this Investment plan.

The first thing which you should do is to set the target for each coin that you bought. You can think of taking profit at 2x or 3x depending upon the coin marketcap and other factors.
There is no hard and fast rule that if you invest for an year or two, you can achieve your target. The target price for your investment can be reached much sooner than your thoughts.

I believe we should also plan for the possibility of losing money and knowing when to stop because it is not always profitable. If there was a dump , we should be prepared. Same as target profit, you should also choose your stop loss, which should be equal to the amount of money you can afford to lose in the event of a dump, just to be prepared and ensure that you will survive. However, you are correct in that making a profit may occur sooner rather than later due to the fact that cryptocurrency is extremely volatile and, in some cases, extremely fast.
You are saying right that we should always be prepared to face dump or huge loss in the market as we are dealing in the highly risky and volatile bitcoin market and if we can't afford to lose what we have invested then we should stay away from it.But how many people who have hold bitcoin for more then 5-6 years in the past have complained about the loss? The prices in 2017 were $20k ATH and then crashed to $3k and now comes two people at that time -

First who sold their coins below $10k due to the panic sell because they were seeing some crazy red candles on the charts and wanted to cash out the investment as soon possible but what they gained from it? Some might be in profits or loss but majority was at loss who sold.

Second comes the Holders who didn't panicked out during the dump and stay calm because they were long term hodlers and stay away from all negative vibes and still hold the coins so they are now worth $67k at this time.So they are huge profits.

There is difference between them so just prefer long term without any trading if you don't have experience for it and Bitcoin will not make you upset.
2751  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I missed the boat is not new concept.. on: November 10, 2021, 07:20:33 AM
Another strange thing about "boat missers", that is less common these days is that they used to always claimed that buying 1 whole bitcoin is now too expensive for them as if you only had one choice and that was buying a whole bitcoin and fractions of a bitcoin were never possible!
Totally agree on this point that first they assume they have missed the boat or some think it will not grow and were holding some other coins of their preferences and with prices rising they start to claim that buying one bitcoin is too expensive for them like at $50k ,$60k and they will continue the same lame excuses even at high and low prices also and fake out things like you can't buy the lowest denominations also in bitcoin.How in the hell they could forget that part which is you can buy btc worth $50 or low also keeping up the transactions fees and who needs to go for full Bitcoin if you can have part of it.But still they ignore this an keep on repeating new stuff and as you said we see less of them these days.



I have also been the one who missed early opportunity but didn't want to regret a lot making such excuses I missed the boat so have started to invest what i can afford and been motivating others also through this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5349270.0

It's hard to call something a scam when it existed for 12 years, has been a stunning success and there's zero evidence of things that define the word "scam". And the argument about environment is successful because environmentalism is on the rise, and there's a grain of truth to it, but no one asks what "bad for the environment" exactly means and what are the implications of it.
People's, governments and banks have claimed it to be scam in the past and have made tons of allegations against it like bitcoin being used for criminal activities but now they are the ones accepting it and want to allocate more and more bitcoins due to high profits associated with it and with complete decentralization and security of funds.They know it can't be stopped so why not benefit from it and have taken back their words which is their past habit.

But I also think you misunderstood a bit what @aysg76 meant, because I don't see him advising someone to invest large sums of money, but to try to learn something from the mistakes others have made in the past.
Yes i am not suggesting anyone to allocate the huge budget towards bitcoin but only pointing out that people in the past and at current time period are not different at all and still make the same excuses that we missed the boat so instead of doing this go for investment to enjoy later on.We still are somewhat not too late and prices are $65k-$68k range and we might seem to reach more high so make some moves.
2752  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 09, 2021, 10:40:43 AM
The celebrations are on for bitcoin holders and seeing the birds chirping out loud this time coming out of nests and meanwhile i received this news today in the morning and was pleased to see this.



Two things make me happy:

1) Bitcoin prices rising
2) Investment in bitcoin  Grin

And to all the shitcoin holders and others who speaks the negative about it see the king has retained his new ATH position and they also following the ant pumps on its path.So bend the knee before the king:

2753  Economy / Gambling / Re: Roobet.com | Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino 🦘 on: November 09, 2021, 09:41:14 AM
There are renewal charges and having an license is costly task and there are lot of other implications that needs to be fulfilled but most of the casino first of all go for license as players search for the details before joining any casino like us.So at this time Curacao license is the most famous and somewhat cheap at this time so you will find most of the casino operating under the same license.But after that they can turn out to be scam also so make sure you play over legit casinos only.
I believe that getting a curacao license is just throwing money out the door and nothing more. As I have said before, it is a useless one since there are places with no license at all and still managed to become huge, so why would anyone imagine that would change?

If you are spending a lot of money for a license, and you are spending money to fit the license requirements and even hiring lawyers and such to keep it in check then I am sorry but you are spending money that you do not have to spend. In fact instead of spending money on that, if you spent that exact amount on marketing and just give people money, competition or promotion or bonus or challenge or whatever then you would probably be doing better.
The casino have deep pockets with them and they think it's beneficial to aquire the license first of all and then have the team with them so that if any complex situation arises they have the license benefits.Moreover they are getting it at not an expensive rate and fast processing time so they find it suitable to have it.Talking about the promotions do you think they are not spending enough on them also? They have separate funds for each task which cannot be compromised only for promotion and bonuses.
2754  Economy / Gambling / Re: Rollbit.com | Crypto's Most Rewarding Casino 👑 on: November 09, 2021, 07:42:08 AM
Lot of discussion about the latest Rollbot NFT trend and it seems it's going well with they being traded on marketplace at very good price also.But we are missing the on casino talks also like the leaderboard and when i looked today then i found that Rollbit Boss @MalteseFalcon has displayed his username and he has wagered around $788,634,500 which is an insane amount and was completely blown when i looked at the leaderboard.The whales are putting some real funds out there..
2755  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Give this bitcoin test... on: November 09, 2021, 07:19:56 AM
This test is a good way to get started with your knowledge about bitcoin if you are a beginner.
This test was made with similar intentions to some extent but not only newbies as you can see many members have jumped into giving the test because we all want to gain additional knowledge from where we can get it as learning is never ending process.

You can also try to give it a touch and check what you know about and came to know something new about Bitcoin and market as a whole to give you a fresh start and boost on the forum.You don't need to score high to compete with others and just make yourself clear about the idea about the questions in the test and whatever the results are.Just note down the incorrect ones and try to understand the question.
2756  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: My Past three months bitcoin journey on: November 09, 2021, 07:04:59 AM
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Holding is hard on the way up and on the way down, and seems to me that the harder part for many comes after they feel that they have sunk a decent amount of value into their investment and then the BTC price dips way below their costs and maybe even stays there for a couple of years.  I had very long periods of nearly 3 years that some of my BTC were below the cost of purchase, and I even had periods in which my overall investment was only worth about 30% of the value that I had put into it... so those kinds of periods can be even more difficult - and they likely would be worse for someone who may have overinvested or even taken out debt. 

The amounts that you depicted so far in this thread do not necessarily seem to be high enough to even cause as much concern.. but surely also a lot of these kinds of considerations are relative too, in terms of other investments that you might have or even if you have all of your investments tied up in bitcoin, which might cause nervousness too.. and maybe even more nervousness the longer that you are invested and the more that you start to feel loss of value with the BTC price going down. 

Of course you have a right to your own perspective.. and I suppose that there can be some euphoria being in profits, too.  There do seem to be more options when you are in profits, even if it may well cost more (relatively) to acquire more bitcoin (less bang for the buck when the BTC price is higher).
Many times we come across such periods where we found our boat sinking to the bottom levels or in other words our portfolio is witnessing reverse growth and our investment is decreasing day by day like you said in your case and we might find it difficult to survive but the best option is to leave the funds safe like if you have bitcoin and completely forget about them for some time and have patience.If you have sold about 3 years ago then would you have been able to enjoy the new ATH at this time period? So we all know this is highly risky market and funds could be lost but trust me btc will not let you down so easily.

Although i don't have big proportions allocated towards bitcoin similar to many of the big investors who managed to get them at early or have deep pockets to back them up at high prices also but i am not no-coiner also and have reached good amount at this time and will continue to have them without any hastle.I am not into trading which could be hectic and mind consuming but just want to hold for long periods and believe me it's not hard once you make up your mind and no major crashes affect you.I have seen 70-80% downfall in bitcoin prices but still we have seen it reaching $68k today so that's the motivation for me.

You have been able to hold for more than 3 years and now you are able to make huge profits. This is actually a psychological challenge. When the portfolio is declining in a bearish condition, there tough to keep holding mentality at that time, and Investors fall into serious psychological challenges.
In most cases newcomers face such problems, the experienced ones do not care about such types of regular pumps and dumps.
It's all the mental game and if you could survive that easily or in pressure you will sit on profits but keep in mind it will work only for bitcoin as per me not the shitcoins that are rising for a temporary period in market.Suppose you are holding some meme coins with psychological thinking that it will grow and have faith in it but it's completely delusional faith and nothing is going to improve and it's better to sell them ASAP.So make the difference and set your goals as i have made for bitcoin.
2757  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 09, 2021, 03:12:11 AM
So i am little bit late to the NEW ATH PARTY but here we go at last and having some pump vibes at last and laughing at the previous post who said it will not be able to rise above this level or that level Grin.

This is just the boost to engine and rocket is going to take off guys and $70k is incoming soon.Set the timer on your clocks and when you see bears running back to the jungles then we have hit that.

But to all those who says we have missed the boat phrase always there is one thing which i wanted to share with you all.



You are not late but just being foolish to wait on the stop and seeing the train/bus leaving without getting on it.So you see this is not new thing but waiting too much will eventually lead you to miss the boat.

2758  Other / Beginners & Help / I missed the boat is not new concept.. on: November 08, 2021, 08:41:02 AM
With Bitcoin prices reaching close to $70k in 2021 and setting up new ATH for all the holders i wonder how far we have came up with that and now having only 1 btc is sufficient only or accumulating even some sats is profitable to the holders in long term.

We all could have some different goals like with extra funds we could save more or less btc and every member could set his target no force movement in that but many times we have heard the line we have missed the boat and found out that this is not a new one as people have been claiming this from the initial days also.I found a similar thread and went up to read different posts about the viewpoint of members discussing how many btc they have.

Here is a thread from 2011 : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=12893.20

Some of the interesting quotes from the thread are here:

approx 320. Most in bitbills ;P

About 583, after spending some on Namecoins. I guess it's a lot to some people but of course I'm greedy so I wish I had more.

Reading this makes me really upset that I sold 112 (all) of my BTC a couple months ago for only $118...
Don't feel bad, I sold 5K for 1500€

There are some other members discussing about hundred of owned Bitcoin and selling them at very cheap prices or say some are sad that they only have 200 or 300 coins.Many of them were miners in the early days but what i wonder is whether they still holds all those coins or not?

Here is one more proof to the same:



Profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=316

The reason why i am making this thread is to make newbies aware that sometimes we feel that we already missed the boat but in reality it has not started the voyage at all.All those coins if stored safely would now be worth millions or even billions if you made the excat calculations.

There are lot of altcoins that might be shining at this time but Bitcoin has been the king of CMC from long time and will remain the same and there are more chances of growth so you better don't get eroded by all such things like you missed the boat and do the same mistake they might have done.Just jump in and enjoy and stay safe.
2759  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: My Past three months bitcoin journey on: November 08, 2021, 07:50:32 AM
The Bitcoin candles are green once again and the investment or say my portfolio value has been growing continuously with just holding bitcoin.That is the power of holding.

Many claims that it's hard but in actual holding bitcoin is the most easy task but holding them for long term and in secured way is hard one so make the difference and Bitcoin is not going to wait for you.Make some early moves.
2760  Economy / Gambling / Re: Roobet.com | Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino 🦘 on: November 08, 2021, 07:37:09 AM
Thats true, having a license doesnt guarantee that the casino is not scam and can be trusted in the long run because this still depends on the casino's build reputation and it really takes time. Roobet is one of the trusted casino existing nowadays and I bet we are aware of their reputation here and outside. They're consistent with their marketing strategy and promotions and if there's an issue they are fast to resolve it. Plus their support is online often if there's an issues which I like the most.
I have no idea about license of gambling but there are a lot of business who opens their busienss first and then try to take licence and also on several business licence cant not be approved for several months/years but it doesn't affect too much on their business. It may happen for gambling too.
There are renewal charges and having an license is costly task and there are lot of other implications that needs to be fulfilled but most of the casino first of all go for license as players search for the details before joining any casino like us.So at this time Curacao license is the most famous and somewhat cheap at this time so you will find most of the casino operating under the same license.But after that they can turn out to be scam also so make sure you play over legit casinos only.
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