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2741  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is this a scam? What to do next. on: September 19, 2019, 02:24:46 PM
So okay, this story didn't happen to me. It happened to a friend (let's call him Bob) of a friend (I will call him Sam).

Bob came to me asking is this a scam and is it legal. Bob doesn't know much about bitcoins and crypto, Sam even less.
Sam somehow got in contact with people who offers to open an account and invest into crypto. These people guaranteed a lot of profit. Sam paid 500 EUR at first and other two times a 2000 EUR.
What is interesting, that these people calling him to invest more. But he has an app (I don't know what app, because I heard it from Bob and he doesn't know either) which shows that Sam has doubled his investment (9000 EUR), but he cannot withdraw it now and these people (from Russia) are calling and rushing him to invest even more.

Bob asked me about that, I said that this is some nonsense. There shouldn't be people calling you and asking to transfer money. All is too fishy.

What should Sam do? Will the police help?

I don't know about police, but these scams have been going on for ages. Of course they are going to be from a conveniently, lets call it, "complicated" country where chances are your laws won't ever touch them.

You can replace "crypto" with "gold" or whatever, and you'll recognize the scam. This has nothing to do with actual crypto, any bait that sounds good will do, and of course they will encourage him to "invest" (give away) more money. It say 2500€ is a pretty good catch per idiot person...

So its like me telling you to give me your money and i will give you back twice, and perhaps even do it once or twice (which these people didn't even bother to do). How big can the stupidity of people be?

A "smartphone app" can be programmed to do display anything, it doesn't make it any less lie.

Oh and by the way, the "come asking" part is supposed to occur before you foolishly give your money to strangers, else why bother, its lost... What, will the UK declare war to Russia over some mafia boys scamming a few British subjects overseas? Doubt it...
2742  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Lets think Bitcoin as an investment not payment system, is this right? on: September 19, 2019, 02:13:29 PM
Bobby Lee — co-founder and former CEO of China's first crypto exchange BTCC — says the Chinese have always thought of Bitcoin as an investment rather than a payment system.

Lee made his remarks during an interview for Charlie Shrem’s Untold Stories podcast on Sept. 18.

- In accordance to what Bobby Lee said, it is indeed that China thought of bitcoin as an investment.
This might be the reason why China was one of the biggest percentage average of having a bitcoin mining farm.
all over the world, What's your view about this thought? Smiley

This thinking have to change, as bitcoin price increase is slowing down with maturity. Perhaps until now, and perhaps for a little bit further, you could thing of bitcoin as "investment", but in the future, you should rather think of bitcoin as value preserving.

First, think that anything fiat loses value, depending on place from 2% to millions % yearly. So to avoid this, you should move your savings into bitcoin or gold. Then, of course at some point you want to use a bit of your savings, and that is when you can simply spend it directly rather than the inconvenience of exchanging it for fiat first.

Don't expect just buying bitcoin will give you so much profit you can quit your job. That might have been the case in the beginning, but with each passing day it will be less and less true. You will never get the giant returns people who invested early made in the past. Those times are gone.

Even if you don't want to see it as a payment system, look at it as a money (wire) transfer system. For this purpose Bitcoin is perfect as it is, and of course to save your money from induced inflation from the misled ruling governments and institutions following school of Chicago dogma.
2743  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are the big merchants that accept Bitcoin payments? on: September 19, 2019, 02:03:13 PM
Quite a few big sites have already begun to integrate payment options for Bitcoin and you can purchase everything from VPN services to pizza or home goods.

So, you're in luck if you've been holding onto your bitcoin for a while either privately or in an exchange such as Coinbase and feel ready to use them to make a purchase.

If you're wondering where to start, look no further than the following top websites that are now accepting Bitcoin as payment for their goods and services.

By the way, more and more brick-and-mortar sites are accepting Bitcoin, too. Fly into Denver and you can even pay for your parking with Bitcoin. Cryptocurrency is not just for the unsavory criminal any more.

You can't spend bitcoins at every website or offline store, but you can use your bitcoins to purchase gift cards for places that don't directly accept bitcoins.

eGifter is a popular gift card site and mobile app that lets users buy gift cards for all sorts of places, including Amazon, JCPenny, Sephora, Home Depot, Kohl's and more. eGifter uses Coinbase as their bitcoin partner.

Newegg has chosen BitPay as its payment processing partner for the digital currency. Anyway Instasmarter accepts bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies.InstaSmarter.com is the world's leading social media marketing agency. It offers likes, followers, views for Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, etc.


Note that the bitcoin option at checkout may be unavailable if you are purchasing an item from a seller other than Newegg but that sells through the Newegg site.

If you're not familiar with Shopify, all you really need to know is that it's an ecommerce platform that allows merchants to set up their own online shops to sell their products similar to Etsy or eBay.

Once upon a time, Steam also made the mistake of using Bitpay, then, after the transaction fee craze of early 2018 they suspended the service. Now Bitpay can easily be replaced with btcpay, and you could do it yourself or hire anyone (not just bitpay) to do the processing, but they haven't bothered ever since.

Newegg is peculiar. For long they have only accepted American only credit card (which is why i never got to use them. I have to wonder if, using bitcoin i could send the goods anywhere and not just US addresses?

Purchasing gift cards with bitcoin has been going on and even i managed to do it once, but it had to be an European supplier (America has long denied or purchases long before "sanctions", they simply didn't like our trashy banks or the nearly comprehensible money exchange rules back when that existed.

Where is eBay in all of this? Still refusing bitcoin... Adoption is too slow for certain sites, i guess its time for replacements to come up.
2744  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Promoting BTC via Emoji on: September 17, 2019, 10:26:20 PM
It will attract a lot of people, as people love emojis 6 billion emojis sent each day ! Only 2000 emojis in existence, for example according to emojitracker.com, the fire emoji hits 27,500,000 by year !

Surely we need a bitcoin emoji, and only bitcoin attracts bitcoin ok, but when we see some BTC projects with some 26+ characters in the domain, we doubt people will memorize it.

It is easier to memorize a picture.

As emoji domains are completely new, they will create awareness.

Ok it will better with com, net etc but Icaan will never allow emoji in it.

So, we don't want to wait, ".to" as a "go to" meaning makes sense, ".to" is completely private and does not depend from Icaan.

As Nike, (US$ 36.39 billion, 73,000 employees) with the basketball emoji dot TO, we think there is something to dig on that side.

How about ₿.to? I seem to recall unicode being allowed as well for domains. I'm not very confident on this new world, and there is also the thing that goes after the . which can be anything nowdays, goodbye to the good old conventions of .com .org .net .edu .mil .gov...

PS: ₿=BTC in case your system is too old to display unicode from 2017...
2745  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Too much tech in schools with no benefit, researchers agree. on: September 17, 2019, 10:06:34 PM
I may have an old school mentality on this subject, due to my age.

I think the public education system should teach/familiarize kids with today's technology, but there's no reason EVERY child in the school district should have a laptop provided by the school. The only thing it's doing is costing the taxpayers.

I grew up with chalkboards, overhead projectors, pen and paper, no a/c in the classroom.  We had typing classes on "fancy" typewriters. Computers were introduced later in my education by way of a "computer lab", or one classroom full of desktop computer.  Some new-fangled tech like the Commodore 64.

We all turned out just fine, and probably more level-headed than today's youth.

I graduated High School, chose the military over college, and consider myself above middle class with a 6 figure salary.

I do lack technical expertise, but know how to use computers and programs, and do so when needed.
( but I still cant get the clock on my VCR to stop flashing 12:00) Wink

Your joke is too old. The young ones are unfamiliar with the concept of a VCR.

Your school example was nearly exactly like mine, but no projectors, that would be luxury. Like yours, they eventually added an optional computer lab, and you had to pay extra to get in, those were Apple ][e clones. And yes, in my time there was still the typewriting class, i still own a pure mechanical typewriter bought back then so i could practice at home. It never got much use, because i already had an Apple //c computer with printer to do actual school work.

There was no Internet, researching things involved physically going to a (school) library, it was limited, tedious and slow, so slow... In this age its a couple of searches away from your pc. For good or bad, you can get the info, and do your homework. But there is also pre-made homework made by others. i don't even know how education coped with current technology, i don't think it did...

I remember some math teachers allowed calculators and some didn't. A similar discussion was going on back then, as it was the pocket calculator era (previous gen had no such thing).

And what is there to come. Implants?

If you deprive your kid from gadgets, he/she will come in contact with those at school. And yes i'm aware of a trend in America about not letting kids go to school at all and instead have home school, but i'm not sure how that even works (its illegal in my country, as primary education at an approved institution is compulsory).

There is also the things they teach at school and its usefulness later in the real world. There are basic things everyone agrees should learn, but some things might seem obsolete or redundant at best. Letting them explore and choose what they feel best with, seems to be getting complicated too.

What is "too much tech"? Is it focused into learning or not? Chalkboard vs e(ink)board is too much? They can both do the same (and in theory the eboard keeps memory so you could copy things you missed later).

What about surveillance, should they have security cameras everywhere so no bullying goes unpunished?

In my days using computers was considered optional. Today is essential to know basic use to get a job.
2746  Other / Off-topic / Re: you like robots? on: September 17, 2019, 08:50:48 PM
Can't find any reason to love those since they all are too stupid

Do you call a hammer stupid? Or a bicycle? What about your computer? Of course, it won't do anything unless you don't program it to do it. Robots are the same. If you want them to think on their own, and not sit there waiting for your instructions, then we enter the realm of Artificial Intelligence...
2747  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Help with flashing control board S9 with an SD card on: September 17, 2019, 08:34:17 PM
... What can i do?

I don't think you can use any of the SD flashing guides with the Hydro because its a different controller, you'll have to take it to Bitmain...

Otherwise the procedure was: flash the T9+ firmware and then from the ui of that update to the S9 firmware.

If you own a Hydro, don't mess with the firmware. Hopefully, BraiinsOS might eventually add support to it. And i bet the latest S9se or k might fall in the same camp.
2748  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How using Tor Browser increases bitcoin theft? on: September 17, 2019, 08:23:44 PM
  b) And I think this is the bigger issue. People not setting stuff up properly and getting bitten by that.

Genuinely curious, what do you think the average person using Tor should set up to avoid getting attacked? Anyway, I agree with you that they're covering their ass, but more from regulatory pressure than anything else.

Malicious exit nodes mounting MITM attacks is a vector I hadn't considered before. I had been thinking of them mainly as surveillance adversaries. I'm not actually sure this is a legitimate concern, though. It seems like attackers could do more effective analysis on regular clearnet usage to mount more effective generalized attacks on a bigger population.

Maybe DaveF could elaborate on how targeted routing analysis would make such attacks more likely. My initial reaction is that users running NoScript and/or disabling JS should be much better protected against MITM attacks than average web users too, so that's another reason why average TOR browser users should be safer.

This has been going for long, but lately it is ever a concern, as most sites switched to https anyway, and the exit node can do nothing about that.
HTTPS Everywhere is rather useless at this point in time, because, most sites already are https and there is no need to try force it anymore. Besides, those few sites that still don't have https, won't have it magically only because you have that add on. Thanks the EFF for the push tho.

Getting rid of scripts (i like umatrix more than noscript) is a solid move. Only while list trusted sites and at the same time get rid of the tracking garbage.



Be careful when using Tor. Operators maintain a registry of TOR users. That is, just downloading the browser, you get into the list. Files are sent through several servers to confuse those who want to track traffic. The last server in rare cases may be yours. If you're not lucky, "they may be accused of drug trafficking. Most of the Tor traffic comes from the Darknet. Your security and anonymity are at risk on sites without an SSL certificate. It’s better to avoid sites on http and only go where there is https.

This is utter nonsense and you have no idea what you are talking about. Get informed before writing stuff first...
2749  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Antiviruses on: September 17, 2019, 07:59:22 PM
I also tried all of them, and my computer was infected with each of these Antivirus programs installed. To protect yourself from Trojans and hackers, you should use a complex password (really complex!) and two-factor authentication during registration. A good antivirus will not hurt, but this stuff will not protect you for 100%. Therefore, you should not keep all the savings on the exchange - it is not safe.

2FA won't help you if your malware-infected computer sees the TOTP key when you first activate 2FA on your cryptocurrency exchange account, same with complex passwords. Minimize your attack surface and think before you click something, too.
I do not understand how the virus can broke 2-factor protection if it is constantly changing very fast.

Seems you didn't read. If the malware was active the time you activate 2fa it copied the key needed to generate the very same answers. When you activate a 2fa, you are given a 16 char string you are supposed to keep backed up, essentially the private key.

Same way malware copies seed words or private keys from wallets, etc. Problem was using an insecure OS in the first place. If you want to be safe, always boot from a secure OS first before handling security related things.



I agree Linux is not perfect. Usually, after installing Linux, you need to configure the system so that it works quickly.
Windows is good that works smartly from the box, but it has the most viruses.

This is a lie, you simply are picking the wrong distro. Once you find the right distro for you, you don't have to do anything and it runs faster than windows on the same PC by default, without downloading anything or configuring anything. no drivers, guides, activation, updates, nothing. It just works, better.
2750  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Shower thought. If nations/states/governments are accumulating Bitcoin, then on: September 17, 2019, 07:51:52 PM
I believe they must be doing it in secret. What would be the advantage for North Korea, or Iran, to let everyone know that they are accumulating/mining/HODLING?


The same as with gold reserves, but without the incurred costs of custody and storage, or transport...

As long as they learned how to properly make and handle cold wallets its the smart move to do for long term preserving of value.
2751  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin for Monthly $1K Payouts? Andrew Yang Says Yea on: September 17, 2019, 07:47:53 PM
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Perhaps the money should be given to people who actually deserve it, the majority of the population, the working class. (people who actually give up lifespan at a exceeding rate to serve others)

Yeah, comrade, the money should all be given to the working class, to the heroine mothers, the steel factory workers, and the children that are going to protect the fatherland. Death to the kulaks to anyone who isn't sweating tears and blood while working for the glory of our beloved country.

Because this has done wonders in the past, in Eastern Europe, in Zimbabwe, in South Africa , in Venezuela. Only success stories!!!!

So wait what are we suppose to do let a few create the supply while the rest of us slave for it?
Fuck that, everyone should make the supply at the same rate, then enterprise if they want to.

So I guess you're one of the fans of redistributing Satoshi's coins to all the people in the world, right? 
I'm really curious how are you going to weasel your way out of this one.  Grin


Indeed this is how we ended with 2 USD monthly salaries, no healthcare, no education and rampant crime.
You can link this in your comments: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_in_Venezuela

There wasn't such a land reform of late, but many owners where stripped of theirs during Chavez, to be put in the hands of workers, and then... they were all abandoned.

Ironic that, under that flag of socialism, the minimum wage was essentially abolished. And the rest is the result of rampant corruption and crime. Funny thing is, they use the very same arguments you just did jokingly. I once watched the last speech of Ceausescu on youtube, and its almost identical to the typical speechs of Maduro. These people appear to not have a mind, or don't care to repeat the same things endlessly. Replace Kulaks with "American imperialism" and you have nailed "the left" speech of this subcontinent for the past half century.
2752  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Trump’s Plan to Ban the Petro Could affect all Cryptocurrencies on: September 17, 2019, 07:19:41 PM
I don't think that we deduce that Trump will ban crypto just because he banned Petro. Remember that Venezuela is under the West sanction so it make sense for Trump to call a total banned of Maduro's supposedly saviour his Petro.

But we all know that Petro though is fake and not back up by anything except Maduro's word, so banning it as you have pointed out doesn't have any impact on bitcoin or even sway Trump to also put a hammer ban on crypto. Difference scenario.
But we cannot change the fact that this maybe the start of Trump’s plans of banning crypto specially bitcoin?he might just getting ways on how this can be done and what he sees is Petro would be the first as a example

Though I’m not convinced also of us President will move against Bitcoin but let’s make this as basis if ever he do towards our market here.he is desperate in making US great again so he will go for every possible ways

Then he is a fool (but we already know that). Petro is super simple to "ban", because of its centralized nature. Just block access to the single online wallet server it has. How do you do that to a decentralized coin? You can't.

Heck, he could also end Venezuela's gov, and that is the end of Petro. There is nothing in Bitcoin you can do to stop it, even is Satoshi identity was known, getting rid of him/her/they does nothing to stop Bitcoin. There is no single point of failure, you can remove the core developers, but the network would still remain alive even if development of new features stagnates, its already in working condition.

Petro exists in a single data server, remove that and is gone forever. Same thing with any other centralized altcoin.

Incidentally this is also what gives and takes value from crypto. This is why bitcoin is the most valuable. Centralized coin = garbage.
2753  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Sad News: Kidnappers now requesting bitcoin as ransom in Nigeria on: September 17, 2019, 07:08:21 PM
It's quite a sad time to be a bitcoin (cryptocurrency) enthusiast in Nigeria. While we're trying to spread the positive benefits of the currency across the country and Africa continent as a whole irrespective of the government showing negative signs towards the currency, we have recorded some set backs. Each time we take one step forward the bad eggs of the nation take advantage of the hype and leverage on the anonymousity of the currency. First it was the news of Nigerians using the currency to defraud foreigners, since it was easier and they can't be tracked easily. That development lead to a serious attack on account associated with bitcoin transaction irrespective of your source of income. Some accounts  were reportedly frozen while others were blocked for some days (can't confirm this though since I wasn't affected directly).

Recently, the kidnappers are using it to stay anonymous and avoid been traced. The first time such incident was recorded on the continent was when some Kidnappers requested a random of $120,000 to be paid in bitcoin to release a 13yrs old teenager in South Africa. CNN reports now the Nigerians (kidnappers) are buying into the idea of using the currency for their dirty operations. It worries me because what ever Nigerians are engaged in an activity be it good or bad they do it to the extend it becomes a trend which will definitely bring about more regulation and probably a ban on the usages or association with the cryptocurrencies in the country.

The recent development Kidnappers free Abuja victim after ‘$15,000 ransom paid in bitcoin will definite damage the image of the currency in the country and around the whole especially Africa, if it becomes a trend. What are the possible solution to avoid this trend becoming an easy way out for the kidnappers thereby spoiling the currency image. And what's your take on this issue.

Well they are being fools. Bitcoin is easier to trace, and at some point the world is going to have some sort of blacklist address database so every time this happens, money involved will likely be frozen the moment it hits some exchange or mixer.

But i guess they are taking the chance now when none of this currently exists, at least not formally in the clear. Tho i don't know what exactly happens with things such as the stolen money from Binance, how do they inform the other exchanges etc.

In any case yes, crime has used all sorts of valuables in the past, and that is not the fault of the valuable. Fiat (cash) is still the preferred method used for crime, and yet fiat doesn't get abolished.
2754  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is it possible to mine only with opening an App and stay there? on: September 16, 2019, 10:21:50 PM
Or the app is really mining using the pitiful cpu/gpu the poor phone/tablet has, probably melting the thing in the process (hot and battery always running out).

Some cheap altcoins can be mined that way, and there is malware that does the exact same thing.
2755  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Antminer Hack S9 /S15 / S17 / Sx aso. SSH and so on for free on: September 16, 2019, 10:04:27 PM
So ! now connect as success !

on controler booting, automatique send me a boot sequence (same page to kernel log on web page miner) , not need authentificate, is auto connect on serial !

For wire diagram, is good, but just Swap "RX" and "TX" ... ("GND" is optional ? working whitout... i don't know what)

Yes its "optional", but use it...

And yes, given two identical serial ports, to connect to each other you have to swap tx and rx, this used to be called "null modem". AND, until gigabit LAN, to connect two nics together you were supposed to do the same thing with the two pairs it uses 12, 36, also called "crossover".

(The thing with gigabit lan is that it auto swaps the pairs, and in addition 45 and 78 are also used and swapped when needed, and it even corrects mistakes).
2756  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Discussion: Best Turnkey solution for 200 miners behind slow internet connection on: September 16, 2019, 08:50:09 PM
This sounds very interesting to me.  For the performance (range/throughput) you are describing, it seems that seems like that is the way to go.  However, in the country where I am trying to operate, I would likely be violating some strict law governing radio emissions.  When you are describing 100km away, how is line of sight even a consideration?  The earths curvature would cause line of sight issues to start.  The internet service providers here have decent service in cities, but very little incentive to expand to rural areas, and usually at high cost.  I will need to look into this more.

I just checked, those are wifi directional antennas. Wifi uses unregulated band worldwide, this is because the band used is considered garbage. It happens to be the same used in satellite tv among other things, like wireless phones, and microwave ovens. Yes, the infamous water resonance 2.4ghz band and all its harmonics (5.8, 11, etc). Also they are narrow beam, especially the higher frequencies. Pointing the things to each other sounds like fun (which reminds me of pointing satellite dishes, same thing only farther lol).

Well yeah, if i were to do it here i would need to rent a middle point to get internet here, meaning at least 4 antennas for 2k USD... OR get a real tall (few stories high) pole, which might be doable but pointing the thing would be... challenging. The hill is close and rather small, but enough to obstruct line of sight.

But who knows, maybe in the future i might end using one of these solutions. Hmm i think i could do the last leg far more cheaply, given how close the hill is... Unidirectional wifi isn't something new, after all... Oh i see they have a cheap 99$ antenna, that might be enough.
2757  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Braiins OS: open-source mining firmware [S9, T1]. New release includes AsicBoost on: September 16, 2019, 08:07:30 PM
someone have tested if braiins work on T model?

Its tested that it doesn't work. Please wait for future development. With the cgminer replacement (bOSminer), support for new hardware is expected to come.
2758  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Antiviruses on: September 16, 2019, 07:57:25 PM
Ubuntu (or any other operating system, really), isn't immune against malware (even if due to lower install base not as much is written as for Windows), 0days, exploits against the system or any of its components or installed software, and you can still get phished if you don't look carefully where you log in.
Basic antivirus software dont help much against phishing attacks. I ve used free versions of Avira, Avast and Windows Defender but I dont remember any of them warning me of fake phishing websites. I even visited the bitcointalk phishing site on purpose just to see if my AV would respond and nothing.
If you are cautious by nature you dont an antivirus to tell you that you are in danger.

I also tried all of them, and my computer was infected with each of these Antivirus programs installed. To protect yourself from Trojans and hackers, you should use a complex password (really complex!) and two-factor authentication during registration. A good antivirus will not hurt, but this stuff will not protect you for 100%. Therefore, you should not keep all the savings on the exchange - it is not safe.

I’m using paid version of mcafee antivirus, and I’m glad I brought it because it tells when a site is risky to visit, also it scans all my downloads to make sure they’re safe. It runs daily automatic checks in the background, to keep the system clean which is really helpful. If you are like me who stores lots of information on laptop or computer then I feel you should get paid antivirus installed, it’s better to be safe then being sorry for loosing your coins to phishing attacks.

What do you do with a brand new phishing site that is not in the antivirus database yet? See the problem with that thinking? You are not safe at all because you pay an antivirus license, quite the opposite, since you are lowering your guard thinking you are now safe...
2759  Other / Off-topic / Re: you like robots? on: September 16, 2019, 12:47:36 PM
I like the idea of robots helping us do our daily jobs but robots totally taking over our jobs is not a good thing. If humans no longer have to work then the life span of humans will shorten because we will become lazy because there are already robots that will do our works. Everybody knows the animated movie WALL-E right? Just look at how the people there looks like. It is not bad to have robots in our lives as long as there are limitations

Same thing was said about the industrial revolution. All those poor women would lose their sewing jobs... And yet it happened.

As for laziness, that shouldn't be a problem. People can get exercise, without the stress. In fact many people get exercise to get rid of the job induced stress.

Indeed little things like using bicycles, as done in many European and Asian countries would keep you both fit and healthy. American habits are, well, American. Try to balance your lifestyle, exercise is something like water and food, your body needs it even if you don't want to. You don't have to go pro sport player or anything, again little things like walking or climbing stairs when you can make a difference.

Automation is coming regardless of our opinions. I know some people are scared of driver-less cars, but that is coming. Ships and planes are driving on their own for the most part with humans being mere operators supervising operations.

When people mention robot, i don't think anthropomorphic human like beings, there are many robots in use in the industry, doing repetitive endless tasks, such as welding or painting cars. And yes, that replaced a bunch of human work, but advances in technology cannot be undone. Its like trying to undo Bitcoin, its already here, you cannot go back to a world without it anymore.

People will have to adapt, as always.

A robot is a machine that follows instructions. Basically a computer with movable parts. Remember that this is not necessarily tied to AI or even sentience, that is a whole different matter. but yes, that is also coming.

Oh, did you know the work computer meant actually females doing math? Pre-WWII computer meant, a room filled with women doing math, computing trajectories and such... Because the men were in the front killing each other. Which is why there were so many women involved in early (machine) computer projects. Oh and they were employed in crypto too, blame the British and their secret project involving Turing and others.

I guess nobody misses those lost jobs. Oh did you know phones had to be connected manually by, a human operator too? Oh and letters wouldn't be "printed" by themselves, in the past someone had to either write or typewrite those...
2760  Other / Off-topic / Re: Favourite Tv series? on: September 16, 2019, 12:33:10 PM
Doctor Who

I bet you didn't watch the whole thing since the 50ies Smiley
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