Had many replies to this listing. Then I picked up a nasty stomach illness and never followed through with the sale because I was catching up on homework. If you are interested in the TWO of these cards I have remaining, PM Me.
If you responded to this thread previously and are still interested note that your offers will be "first in line" I have PM'd you.
What is the average hashrate per card? 1.1-1.6mh/s is a huge range. |
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Would it be possible to just buy around $75? If so I might be interested.
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There's lots of people in the Bitcoin industry with a shady pasts, even BFL's Sonny did time, so I wouldn't worry about that.
My thinking is they'll deliver, but deliver last, as they started development later than everyone else on the 28nm node.
That's why their price of $3/GH is the lowest out there to reflect this.
Source? Afaik we don't have much info about the development process besides that they still plan to ship on time. |
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Not if you want to sell it for bitcoins..
Fun fact: asicminer with 200k btc dividends past year is evaluated at 200k btc
mpex.co with 14k in dividends is valued at 1,000k btc
How can a dying company which has less than 1/10th asicminers profits be worth more than 5 times asicminer.
Does that make it 50 times more expensive than asicminer based on dividends alone?
Do you honestly think mpoe will pay out a significant percentage of share price in dividends over the next year or two? My guess is it doesn't even pay out 1% (or 10k btc) in the next year.
Who knows maybe some extremely rich idiots will join and blow a few thousand btc gambling. Doubt it though since the increasing cost of joining is going to exclude potential customers (idiots) from joining.
You're too new to be aware of most of the basic facts of the matter, such as the basic fact that MPEx was here before Asicminer, and is still here (showing gains, apparently?!) as Asicminer is vanishing into thin air (not least because of their own poor management skills). There's a lot more stuff you just don't know about, is all. Somehow a steady decrease in dividends equates to showing gains? And being around a whole a year before asicminer makes you a much more mature company. Somehow paying out 5 times ipo in dividends counts as a failure? Is there more stuff I don't know about? I presume you and the all mighty mr popescu know about everything so maybe you could enlighten us simple minded folk. Its not exactly fair to compare mpex to a real company like asicminer just because you made a few thousand btc from gamblers the past year. |
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And its not hard to be right every once in a while when you call every project a scam in a market with 95% scams. It certainly doesn't take 12btc per month to do that, especially when we have pankakke.
This is a fallacy. The scams and failures haven't been all denounced - there are so many- and it has been explained why they are scams or why they will be a failure. Moreover, so far it's not being right "once in a while" but all the fucking time. You're not the only retard with that fallacy, sadly; I get that one all the time. In the end, PIF prevails. But after not understanding finance, it's not surprising you don't understand statistics as well. if you don' like people to call you misinformed, then don't try to scandalize
Pretty much. Your whole communication here is based on facts that are wrong and easily verified; you're undermining your case. The best arguments against MPEx and its securities on this thread are from people who disagree with you; crazy. The one not understanding statistics is you. I understand that 95% of the "projects" on this forum are scams. Mpex included. What you don't understand is that when you bet scam with a 95% chance with a scam you will probably be right. You and Mr P do nothing besides cry scam every chance you get. You are confusing finance with the wacky bullshit mr popescu invents. |
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Dude, it is nice to try to be fair but what's the point of your currency ?
A decentralized p2p trading system between 2 separate currencies would be pretty huge imo. Not sure how it can be done and if they can do it. |
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I thought I read it costs $30,000 depends on the price of course, to sign up ?
Surely the 30BTC is a mis-print that has never been fixed. ?
People have paid? In todays rates ?
30btc fee has not changed and no plans to change it. According to mr p. is likely to increase in the future. And yes apparently they made 820 btc from new users alone last quarter (out of 920btc total revenue) |
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And as I said before using a broker is like using another service. You are not avoiding the mandatory 30btc reg fee by paying some guy who has already paid that fee a slightly lower fee so he can buy shares for you.
You can continue to hurl insults and state how misinformed I am in every post but its not going to do anything besides waste time.
30BTC on CoinBr.com would pay you (if used half by half) 65 years of monthly fees + 750 withdrawals. I don't see how you can call that "slightly lower".... if you don' like people to call you misinformed, then don't try to scandalize a perfectly reasonable business. Using a broker as I said is basically the same as using a separate service. Last I checked mpex.co wasn't a perfectly reasonable business. From what I've gathered it is a casino disguised as a stock exchange with ridiculous fees and a scammy business model. |
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Explain to me why the fee to keep people out was only 200 usd a year ago?
For the same reason the amount Mircea pays MPOE-PR is the same amount today as last year: the value of the service is still worth x amount of BTC. The forum needs people to give them a large dose of: "you're doing it wrong, don't be an idiot, you're going to lose all your money." Invaluable advice for those that pay attention (and don't want to lose all their BTC). The constant btc rate is more likely to create the delusion that mpex can scale with the rapidly increasing value of btc. You are right about mircea giving invaluable advice. The advice is that if you think your going to make it rich gambling with options then you deserve to lose at least 30btc and/or all you can afford to give away to mr. p. However I believe you are under the impression that his incoherent and deceptive blog posts have anything to do with the educating. I guess it does in a way since it allows mircea to find everyone stupid enough to fork over 30btc to gamble in a casino where the odds are greatly stacked against you no matter what you do unless your mr. popescu. And its not hard to be right every once in a while when you call every project a scam in a market with 95% scams. It certainly doesn't take 12btc per month to do that, especially when we have pankakke. |
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woah... 100 shares @ 0.39 and 64 @ 0.38. I'm following the money...
2nd person today who dumped 100 shares for a loss. |
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No outside party trying to help with PR will get any further than I did. The communication breakdown is on AM's end.
Assuming there is any news to report...
This is the biggest worry. AM isn't even talking to TAT at the moment ....... clearly something amiss if FC refusing to talk to his biggest shareholder connection. Why does FC keep logging in and not post anything? Assuming TAT ever had any decent communication between him and FC. We can all agree that as investors/traders having as much info as possible would benefit us but at the same time what does it do for the company? Well, I'll let TAT confirm whether he ever had "any decent communication with FC", but I'm pretty sure the answer is yes .... The worry is very simple here. AM / FC have just halted all communication this last 6 weeks. The question for me isn't "what does it do for the company", the question is "what has happened to this company?" - why is FC logging in and not speaking? If he has time to log in, he has time to put up a simple post, time to reply to TAT etc. FC not posting an official update is very different from halting all communication. Jutarul and some others said they spoke to FC some time this month and were told tape-out is still on track. I would give FC a few more days to give us an official status update considering they might be working hard now to get shit done so they have an update to give us. |
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No outside party trying to help with PR will get any further than I did. The communication breakdown is on AM's end.
Assuming there is any news to report...
This is the biggest worry. AM isn't even talking to TAT at the moment ....... clearly something amiss if FC refusing to talk to his biggest shareholder connection. Why does FC keep logging in and not post anything? Assuming TAT ever had any decent communication between him and FC. We can all agree that as investors/traders having as much info as possible would benefit us but at the same time what does it do for the company? |
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When does the board meeting take place? And does it take place on a regular schedule?
This is all we know (kudos to Jutarul): You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. Improvements have been continually suggested by the board. There seems to be something internal preventing any improvements to PR or related aspects. So far the board has been very lenient with that. The way things are progressing there will likely have to be an investor forced audit at some point in time ...
There has been a request for a board meeting a few days ago - I expect friedcat to be busy right now and be available for a meeting before 30-Jan-14 (but don't hold me liable for that date).
Does TAT know more/can confirm? Thanks. Looks to me like jutarul pulled that number out of thin air but he does know better than any of us non-board members. Either way I think if enough people bug FC he will give us an update even if it doesn't include any real progress. |
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Name: friedcat Posts: 756 Activity: 672 Position: Donator Date Registered: January 16, 2012, 03:50:08 AM Last Active: Today at 02:32:58 AMHe logs in but posts anything? Even if he chose Mr. Gordon Freeman as PR person we would get more information about current situation!  I'd guess he responds to PMs. They need to receive test samples and verify the tape out went successful. Wait until we get news after the board meeting takes place. When does the board meeting take place? And does it take place on a regular schedule? |
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Are you guys still going to offer more hash to your customers, as you discussed from day 1, to make sure they profit?
Was this a promise? I must have missed this somewhere as to my knowledge they have not offered any sort of guarantee. If you have a link to where this is discussed could you please share it? I know they offer this: All pre-orders are guaranteed to be protected against any price decrease. If at any time, during the pre-order period, we drop the price under what you have already paid, you will be compensated by receiving more X-3 mining machines. Edit: Oops... you beat me to it, I took wayyyy too long to click 'submit'  Yeah that's what I'm referring to. Myself along with some others, at the very very very beginning, discussed this when we were talking about resales and becoming a US retailer. It was explained that, as that last quote said, it meant literally that you would receive additional hashpower at no cost, if you would not make a profit over your investment based in USD. For first time buyers, I believe it was like $240 for an X1. They are relying on BTC value increasing so that in 45 days time (the window they gave us), you would get more than $240 back. Just curious if this was still the case. As far as I and many others understood it, you would only get an increased hashrate if they decide to lower the sale price of the x1 or x3. Had nothing to do with delays or making sure their customers reach positive roi but instead to insure that anyone preordering would receive the best deal they offered if they decided to lower prices which they haven't. |
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Now, I can say at least 80% possibility this is a SCAM.
1. exe_COIN is a brand new account.
2. exokk is a member. However, when I search his previous posts, I found all of his posts are to express interest on some new coins ( such as a lot of nxt clones) or to ask for giveaways. All of his posts revealed him as a totally miner and a fail investor. The most funny thing is exokk has even been scammed by Aeoncoin. I can't expect a 2nd generation coin dev is in such a suck stage.
So say bye to you, bro.
I agree this sounds like bullshit. However many cool features if it is real. |
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I was under the impression that the ~85% of s.mpoe shares which are held by mr popescu are receiving dividends. Of course they receive dividends. My point is that there is no special treatment like you want to imply. Is it surprising that the creator of a business owns most of it? Also how is the 12btc/month for pr trolling not coming from investors profits?
Sigh. I wrote "PR fees are taken from the profits". I never implied special treatment. It is a fact that the owner of this gambling site receives 85% of profits due to an arbitrary number of shares he holds. This isn't finance/investing its a joke.. |
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Total evaluation: 1,000,000btc vs 37,000btc
Profit split: 85% goes to owner 15% to investors vs 10% owner and 90% investors
I hope you are trolling hard right now; S.MPOE is a stock, and all the profits go to shareholders, there is no cut, while JD takes a cut on profits*. You also cannot really compare an evaluation to a bankroll. However I do like the new title. It's funny and a better criticism too. Blog fees: 0.01btc vs 0btc
PR fees: 12btc vs 0btc
You have 5 free credits per week (or is it month?) so there aren't enough stocks to need it  PR fees are taken from the profits, that is redundant. Why focus on this expense in particular? * Which isn't bad; since expenses are not taken off investor profits, the site needs some form of income. I was under the impression that the ~85% of s.mpoe shares which are held by mr popescu are receiving dividends. Are you saying they are not? Also how is the 12btc/month for pr trolling not coming from investors profits? |
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Anyone have FC's real details i think its time for the lawsuit.
Lol.. "Your honor mr friedcat only gave my investment a return of 10 times ipo (1000 times ipo in usd) but I want my money back" I assumed sarcasm.
you would think that but he is a legitimate fudster. |
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