I thought this forum doesn't allow more than one account per ip address?
You are wrong, you can use and create whatever accounts you want... the unique thing is "don't spam  " or write/make insubstantial posts. |
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Why not, send also a PM to : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3137 (ThomasV). if you just losted your previoud funds . my advise is that dont use electrum again use blockchain which is much more easy. i m using blockchain from long time but i got never scammed .. i just want to ask is that your electrum wallet is imported with some other ? and your wallet was passowrd protected or not ?
What do you mean with 'blockchain' ? I think you wanted to say the blockchain.info web wallet .... please use the appropriate names and words, or a lot of people will start to think the wrong 'way'. |
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I'm quoting myself : aLL bTc in my handz SWX ( https://blockchain.info/it/address/14GhadwWV4uaoxWZcNrnU3zWkTrtHbCF2T). Electrum seed is different than the passphrase of a brainwallet, or am I wrong?
It is different, however it can be cracked in the same way, for example if you made up your own seed, one that is easy to remember, people often do things like this and if you do that it likely won't be very random and is vulnerable like a brainwallet. It is also possible that the hacker found the wallet file and noticed it was empty, so he set up his PC to sweep it once funds were transferred to it. But it is so complicated to 'find' or crack 12 words (the electrum seed). Wait, are you quoting your forum message or are you quoting "your" tag?  Sorry for your loss OP. But I have a feeling this is done by a troll that might give it back eventually. With " I'm quoting " I meant , quote my previous post because I thought the 'hacker' or who is managing the funds would be add surely the blockchain.info tag. But it is so complicated to 'find' or crack 12 words (the electrum seed).
If your twelve words are all the same word it isn't. Sometimes people "pick" their own seeds that are weaker. In that case it is very easy, but usually it is the wallet (itself) that generete the 12 words as seed and you can't decide (or better can't modify) those words. |
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I'm quoting myself : aLL bTc in my handz SWX ( https://blockchain.info/it/address/14GhadwWV4uaoxWZcNrnU3zWkTrtHbCF2T). Electrum seed is different than the passphrase of a brainwallet, or am I wrong?
It is different, however it can be cracked in the same way, for example if you made up your own seed, one that is easy to remember, people often do things like this and if you do that it likely won't be very random and is vulnerable like a brainwallet. It is also possible that the hacker found the wallet file and noticed it was empty, so he set up his PC to sweep it once funds were transferred to it. But it is so complicated to 'find' or crack 12 words (the electrum seed). |
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Theymos has added some selected members in his trust list (DefaultTrust)
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DefaultTrust list isn't theymos' personal trust list. theymos does have different trust list. -snip-
But the Original dafaultTrust is considered only till Depth 2
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DefaultTrust and default trust list are different. DefaultTrust is an account maintained by admin. Whoever, DefaultTrust adds will be in default trust depth 1. There won't be anyone other than DefaultTrust in default trust depth 0. [...]
When i was writing my post ,i thought about that DefaultTrust might be another Account but i wasn't able to find it , maybe it's hidden or something. Yes i do understand DefaultTrust and Default Trust are different, i think i got confused with the space there while typing  This is the forum account : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=122551 (DefaultTrust) |
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It's weird that the bitcoins just arrived in your account and it got transferred in 1 minute. All say that Electrum is safe and this cannot happen unless your PC has been compromised. The transaction note as well is weird and if it's an error from Electrum, you can expect your money back as this might have happened with many other users as well.
Shall I contact electrum do you think? I am still thinking that it is not a problem of electrum, a 'bug'. Check again your personal computer. It's weird that the bitcoins just arrived in your account and it got transferred in 1 minute.
That isn't weird at all. This happens all of the time with hacked brainwallets etc Electrum seed is different than the passphrase of a brainwallet, or am I wrong? |
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No, it's not banned account, it's a new one.I think IP proxy ban.
I tried to create 2 accounts a while ago but still I can't post.
Most probably you should pay a 'tax' and after you will be free to post and send PM. Have you used also TOR? |
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Leave accurate feedback and eventually, you may get added to default trust list Someone on default trust needs to add you.
Now, trust depth 2 is default depth. So you will have to be added by a person in trust depth 1 or by DefaultTrust(default depth 0). I think OP is asking about how the DefaultTrust depth 0 is selected, not 1 & 2. DefaultTrust and default trust list are different. DefaultTrust is an account maintained by admin. Whoever, DefaultTrust adds will be in default trust depth 1. There won't be anyone other than DefaultTrust in default trust depth 0. I am sure he is not asking what you think. I think he meant " I want to know how one gets added in a default trust list?" So most probable the Depth 2 of the 'actual' defaultTrust list and some users here already gave him an exhaustive reply to his question. |
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He's implying an Electrum vulnerability...? Exactly... What's going on? Any other reports of this?? Which version of electrum have (or are you) used (using) ? I think you didn't reply to my past question (maybe you didn't noticed it). |
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it seems that this guy now that you was using electrum, at least the tag indicate so, could it be that he is exploiting electrum weakness?
Wait, can I say one thing? .... and if it is only a joke by the OP (I'm only asking, but it could be possible). |
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Again : don't send me a PM, thanks ! I will give a loan also without a collateral (but only if the user is a trusted and honest 'person').
Thanks for the attention.
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I have been pondering about this idea for some time now, and I think this could be done several times, but is it advisable to sell your bitcoins together with the wallet.dat and privkeys? I just thought that if Satoshi's coin hadn't move for a long time, maybe he/she sold it using this method. I'm not entirely sure about the idea, but is possible. ....
It is possible, but.... I do not think he would "sell" his wallet.dat to some secret buyer, and then that buyer would not move all coins once, to ensure their control. If what you say did indeed happen (theoretically), I would think Satoshi would of passed the wallet.dat to someone, but only if he would be dead soon.So in that event, he is dead now and his coins are in the hands of a friend/his spouse or his child(ren). Selling a wallet.dat (and not moving the coins) is too risky for everyone otherwise. Do you really think Satoshi would trust someone that much? You know Satoshi was very secretive and made sure it would be difficult if not impossimble to ever be found. A question, why should he trust another person instead to trust himself? Is this a basic concept of the whole bitcoin 'system' ... don't trust no one, trust only yourself (aka your wallet).
I remember that satoshi said (here in the forum) that we should never delete an 'address' or worst an entire wallet.dat , because it is not recommended. Exactly, and that is why I don't think he would trust anyone else with all that wealth. If you will trust a third part service all the whole (or entire) bitcoin concept will 'go'. I think it is better to pay in the traditional way, instead to give the private key(s) to another person. I have been pondering about this idea for some time now, and I think this could be done several times, but is it advisable to sell your bitcoins together with the wallet.dat and privkeys? I just thought that if Satoshi's coin hadn't move for a long time, maybe he/she sold it using this method. I'm not entirely sure about the idea, but is possible. Are there any consequences if I did this thing to "sell" my bitcoins?
I really dont understand. Why do you want to sell your coins with wallet.dat? Do you think will it worth more than its balance? If so , why people give extra money for your wallet when there are lots of issues like another copy of your wallet. Maybe because someone doesn't have a connection internet and he can give face to face the copy of the wallet.dat , but as you said ... it is really an insecure way to give 'btc' to another person. Because who knows if you have deleted that private keys? You can still own the wallet.dat. |
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I want to know how one gets added in a default trust list?
Can someone help please?
~Rony
Provide accurate trust feedbacks on other users and a user on Default Trust or Default trust itself will add you to their's own trust lists, soon or later. In other words kiss ass and hope for the best? Not exactly, but it is your opinion. A lot of users were added after a few months/years and due their activity and honesty here in this forum. Maybe you will be added one day, who knows . |
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Have you proofed if your address is on the first (lets say 500) pages of directory.io? It is almost unlikely but it is possible. Many people are trying all those private keys of first pages in the hope to find an account with some balance.
Hmm... it is really not probable. Or to electrum - because that came from an exchange.
Which exchange, if I may ask? The culprit might be on that end as well...  Nah, I do not think the fault is by exchange. Here the problem is the computer (at 99%). |
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I have been pondering about this idea for some time now, and I think this could be done several times, but is it advisable to sell your bitcoins together with the wallet.dat and privkeys? I just thought that if Satoshi's coin hadn't move for a long time, maybe he/she sold it using this method. I'm not entirely sure about the idea, but is possible. ....
It is possible, but.... I do not think he would "sell" his wallet.dat to some secret buyer, and then that buyer would not move all coins once, to ensure their control. If what you say did indeed happen (theoretically), I would think Satoshi would of passed the wallet.dat to someone, but only if he would be dead soon.So in that event, he is dead now and his coins are in the hands of a friend/his spouse or his child(ren). Selling a wallet.dat (and not moving the coins) is too risky for everyone otherwise. Do you really think Satoshi would trust someone that much? You know Satoshi was very secretive and made sure it would be difficult if not impossimble to ever be found. A question, why should he trust another person instead to trust himself? Is this a basic concept of the whole bitcoin 'system' ... don't trust no one, trust only yourself (aka your wallet).
I remember that satoshi said (here in the forum) that we should never delete an 'address' or worst an entire wallet.dat , because it is not recommended. |
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Have you attached an 'infected' usb key on that computer? Maybe it is this the problem, who knows. No I don't download anything suspicious. The last thing I downloaded was a new driver for my soundcard - from the official website
you are the only one who can access to your machine? sometimes i feel all those stolen money from local wallet, are because of bad friends or parent otherwise there must be something wrong with electrum, a bug probably I do not think, OP can you repeat again the version of the electrum wallet (I can't find it in this thread) thanks. |
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Sorry to ask but I only use Bitcoin Core.
Is Electrum like Brainwallet?
Because if it is then you should know that there is people constantly running brute force apps and waiting for a transaction to take place, then snatch the coins to their own wallet.
There was a post about this someweher in the forums.
Search for Brainwalet hacking and you will find it.
No, electrum is really different from the Brainwallet. The first one uses a seed of 12 words so it is really impossible to bruteforce it, instead the second one use only a password. I am still thinking that it was a computer problem. OP can you explain again if you have stored the seed in some .txt file on the pc? |
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