Here I provide evidence to show how vulnerable the HKC faucet is.
Today I tried to use a "special" way to generate a series of NEW IPs. Using these temporary IPs, I was able to obtain 19 times of 500 HKC giveways from the faucet. I stopped just because I felt tired to get more.. In fact, I could get as many times as I want .... LOL
Here is the record of my 19 "500 HKC" giveways that I obtained within 15 minutes. Yesterday I got 11 "100 HKC" giveaways from HKC faucet.
P.S. I have told HKC dev to give me his HKC wallet address to send him back what I have got from the faucet. I don't want to keep any HKC.
This is one dedicated troll (or a Hong Kong version of Herp). He even trolls coins that have nothing to do with the coin he is trolling, evidently. I somehow have difficulty finding the connection between HKC coin's leaky faucet and Maza coin, but I guess if you are nutty enough, you can find weird connections everywhere.
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The use of Hong Kong emblem in the HKC coin icon and as a logo of the HKC faucet has already broken the Hong Kong Ordinance. Accordingly the ConeyWest coin case, trading of such coins also can be sued.
You guys coming from Mainland China know nothing about HK, and break the laws in HK.
Why you all still have such thick face skin and think that you are correct. ... LOL
Assuming that is true, the dev should probably change the logo then. Although that is hardly been your main problem with the coin, nor something most people care about a great deal, as far as buying or not buying a coin. I'm not in Hong Kong nor mainland China. As for my skin, this is the first time I've been told I, umm... have thick face skin... whatever that means. As for being correct or not, not sure what there is to be correct about. I simply stated you should post on real issues, not made-up ones, nonstop, about whether the dev is from Hong Kong or mainland China. Hong Kong is part of China, anyway, so it's silly regardless, in my opinion.
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Now the HKC developer is insane.
HKC developer kept saying that he was born in Hong Kong. Unfortunately, he could not provide any evidence.
To me, valid questions to ask the dev: Are there any Hong Kong retailers (online or not) who have agreed to accept your coin? Are you trying to sign up any? Is there anything that differentiates your coin from any other crypto? Instead you have spent multiple threads and countless posts, harping on the fact the dev may be from mainland China instead of Hong Kong. And I don't even know which post you refer to where he says he is from anywhere specifically. You posted nonstop in the ann thread, nonstop here, and even started a thread where you said you would sue Bittrex for carrying the coin. And then went on about writing other exchanges too. You put Herp to shame, for his maza troll posts... congrats I guess, on being the biggest nutter here? Do you think you have gone a tad overboard? Like off the deep end, overboard? It is one thing to be proud of where you live. It's another to be ultra nationalistic and insane. Perhaps you are part of that shitcoin killing group, perhaps you have an ulterior motive... perhaps you have no life and just like to troll. No idea. But you invalidate the real issues by going so crazy over this. Personally, I think the coin is a waste, unless the dev signs up some retailers or shops from Hong Kong who accept the coin. The IP faucet is actually a good idea, if he can get it working properly. All you have shown is that someone can cheat and get extra coins ... which really isn't unique to just this faucet. At the very least, it's a nation coin that does pay out to the people it's supposed to, which is more than any other nation coin has done so far. I guess the problem with it is it's too leaky right now. And please people, look up what 'scam' means. Unless the dev is skimming the premine or profiting, there is no actual scam. This wasn't an IPO coin, there is no giant premine, like most nation coins. It may be a bad idea for a coin, but I don't see any scam here.
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Cryptobuddy is really giving Herp a run for his money. Unless they are the same person, that is.
Completely out of his mind and/or has no life.
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I have mentioned many times. The HKC dev pretended to be hong kong people. I am happy to stop making noise if the HKC dev stands up to clarify with evidence whether they are coming from Hong Kong or not.
It is not difficult for HKC dev to do a simple clarification. Unfortunately, the HKC dev wanna keeping the identity of "Made in Hong Kong".
They are telling lies to make people feel they are a Hong Kong team.
Actually, I don't recall the dev even saying he was from Hong Kong, or where he was from. And honestly, it's probably none of our business. Most devs don't go around giving away their location. But okay, for sake of argument, let's say he did say he was from Hong Kong. But so what? Do you want some official identification from him? Would it matter in the end, either way? If he says he is from mainland China, but loves Hong Kong, would that make any difference? Wherever he is from, I don't see how it matters. Such a silly issue. If you have something against nation coins... that is fine and a valid point. If you think the premine should be bigger, also fine. To go to so much effort because you think the dev is from mainland China instead of Hong Kong is crazy.
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Assuming their is no ulterior motive for cryptobuddy's rants, I really wonder what percentage of people in this forum have psychological or emotional problems. He not only posted here, but in several other threads, including a lawsuit thread.
His main issue seems to be the dev or team is not from Hong Kong, but from mainland China. My question is, unless ultra nationalistic, how does that matter?
Hong Kong belongs to China, last time I checked. If the dev isn't from Hong Kong, perhaps he just likes it? or has relatives there? Who knows... and who really cares?
And I think people in this forum really need to own a dictionary, or figure out what the word scam means.
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I mentioned this idea in the Greece coin thread, but I'd think it'd work for any nation coin.
Why not restrict freebie coins to those who sign up using an email address from an Ireland internet provider only? So you can try restricting IP too as an extra safeguard, but also only accept accounts using emails linked to internet companies that exist in Ireland.
No idea what internet companies there are in Ireland, but just pick a group of main ones, then restrict the coins to 50 per Irish email, once per IP. You will miss those who use small, oddball internet providers, but it may be the easiest and fairest way to go.
An IP restricted faucet would also work, if you can figure out how to do it.
And if there are any coins leftover after the airdrop, donate them to some charities in Ireland.
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you're either for these scams or against them. pick a side.
Actually I was wondering the same about you, haven't you made a scamcoin or 10 lol (lets not add about the hidden premine) .......seems this threads full of all the older scammers wanted to prevent the new scammers invading their turf. I haven't been around long enough to know who is who, but I believe the OP used to make shitcoins, and r3wt ran an exchange that went under, and lost a LOT of people's money. Many here probably think he is a scammer. Beats me why they feel like all of a sudden they now can be arbiters of what people should and shouldn't buy. And it's hardly like they are full of goodwill, based on their past actions. It's like a thief complaining to other people that there are thieves around, and they will protect them out of the goodness of their own heart.
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coins which are not claimed within the last air drops of both citizens and companies will be used for promotion and continual development of Greececoin Rather than do it that way, what I'd rather see (not just for Greececoin, but all of the nation oriented coins), is instead use whatever premine isn't claimed, for charities within said nation. So say after all the airdrops you find you still have 20-30% of the premine leftover. Choose some notable charities within Greece, arrange with them ahead of time to provide free greececoins, and instructions on how to convert to bitcoin/currency, if they so wish. Provide people here or on your site with the premine address, and show the transaction to said charity. Have the charity ideally confirm the donation too. Besides helping people and guaranteeing the coin is used within the nation for a good cause, it's also free publicity. The downside is, they will be getting greececoin probably at its lowest point, since those getting the airdrop may have cashed them out already. Still... it may do some good.
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I've been thinking about distribution for these sorts of nation coins, and to be honest, don't really think checking national IDs would work out so well.
Of the forms that could work, Hong Kong coin is going with an IP restricted faucet, and that Silicon Valley coin is going with using real mail ... which would work, but would also be rather expensive for an entire country.
Instead of these nation coins using a national ID for payout, why not set up a system based off of email? Choose a list of internet providers who are only located in a specific country, and only allow signups based on emails linked to those providers? I was just thinking of how amazon blocks non-edu emails from getting a discount on amazon prime... and thought why not use email in the same way to set up nation coin payouts? Obviously not for edu people, but for emails which people could only have in a specific nation? Some IP checking could be thrown in, just as an extra safeguard.
It's not ideal, not exact, but it may work better than some other types of airdrops.
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Wow, Cryptobuddy is still at it, I see.
Well, either he's a nutjob, Herp in disguise, or part of that shitcoin vigilante group, who has strangely chosen the one nation coin that is paying out to people.
Or he planned to make his own Hong Kong coin and is annoyed someone beat him to the idea.
Threads like this make me think some moderation is needed -- that the OP should just ban cryptobuddy from this thread. Regular criticism of any coin is fine. Complete insanity isn't quite as fine.
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Those who are smart enough will choose to let their voice be heard. those who are not, will conform. been that way since the dawn of time.
Shall we continue the measurement contest, or will you for once add something meaningful to this discussion?
Again, I did post several paragraphs, and several posts, why I felt this was a bad idea, earlier in this thread, but there was no rebuttal. Actually against any criticism, you simply revert to insults. So it's less a discussion, and more the feeling of talking to someone trolling.
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People are not smart enough to make their own decisions, the fact that you think so proves your naivety.
Yet you are smart enough to make these decisions for them? I am sure everyone here will be happy to hear this ... they should let you, and the person who used to make shitcoins, decide what is best for them.
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serious question, what fairly tell world do you live in?
I live in a world where I think people are smart enough to make their own decisions, make their own investments and don't need trolls/hackers wrecking coins that they think are scams ... before they are even known to be scams. Basically I live in the adult world, not some made-up vigilante mindset that you guys seem to be dreaming up.
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so the general consensus from older members is it need to be stopped its gone too far. newbies balls deep in scam coins- its an outrage.
Interesting interpretation. I actually think most people here, old and new, don't like all of the newer coins coming out. Many are a waste, most are complete junk. What some people have a problem with (including myself) is your method for determining what is a scam or shitcoin, and how you plan to deal with it. Basically you want to be vigilantes stopping a crime before even knowing a crime has been committed. It's sort of like attacking some random guy who looks like a criminal, but you don't know if he committed any crimes yet. The better idea is to wait for a scam to be committed, like illodin just mentioned, then work on exposing it, and in turn that should lead to less scam coins coming out. Or do nothing, wait a week or so for airdrops, and it'll take care of itself, one way or another...
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You do plan to go after NYC coin, Aur, SpainCoin, GreeceCoin, Silicon Valley Coin, etc etc., right? I mean, you seem so eager to go after the one that actually is delivering coins to people, you really will want to go after the ones that have no feasible plans for distribution, right? And Poloniex isn't probably what you have to worry about. If a chinese exchange picks this up, it may do very well.
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I made my argument against this group earlier in this thread. I listed my reasons why vigilante style justice against cryptos is a bad idea. And why this group deciding which cryptos to kill is a really bad idea.
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Okkaay then... that's cue for me to leave this thread.
Let me just leave with my final perspective:
You don't help people by destroying things.. you help them by creating things.
Really hope you guys change your minds about how to go about this effort.. but... to each their own.
Agree with your sentiment. And I find this entire thread truly bizarre. I guess the people they want to recruit for their 'cause' are basically immature jerks who can't accept criticism or discuss things logically? I mean, that is all I see from them so far. Instead of discussing something, they throw out insults and act like they are 14 years old. And it's incredibly hypocritical that the two main people pushing this group either made shitcoins (the OP), or ran an exchange where he was happy to fill it with shitcoins, so long as it made him money ... until he lost all of that money, that is.
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If this is true.. then that is ironic at best... nefarious at worst.. (kill other altcoins just to hoist up your own altcoin)
I admire his machiavellian tactics. Hypocritical may be the better term.
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We can all agree there are way too many terrible coins on the exchanges, copycats, or worse. But creating a vigilante style group to go after select coins is a real bad idea.
As mentioned by others, the term 'scam' gets thrown around too much here. Unless a dev is scamming people, lying about his coin, stealing IPO money, or taking the premine, it's not a scam. Beecoin/Ghostcoin/whatever coin isn't a scam because the dev copied an existing coin, and stuck on some cute logo or a meme. It's a really bad idea, but it's not a scam.
For the country coins, the best course of action probably is to just wait it out. If the airdrops fail, people will stay away (they probably should stay away from most nation coins anyway). No need to go into troll mode, spam every coin you don't like and disrupt regular discussion. We can't say for certain all nation coins are a scam, until we see what happens. They probably are scams, but anyone with a half a brain can figure things out for themselves here. We don't need trolls going crazy on every coin they don't like.
There is also the possibility that this group will pick a coin to kill, and be wrong. Some of the shitcoin eligibility conditions are rather broad. So IPO coins are considered 'shitcoins' and on the kill list? I guess Ethereum is a shitcoin?
How about InfiniteCoin v2? It certainly sounds shitcoin-ish, right? It's now called Colossus Coin and was made by the OP.
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