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2781  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN][BS] BitSlap! PoW x11 ***Delayed Again LMAO on: June 02, 2014, 12:20:52 PM
The devs have had a crisis of conscience and decided to save all you morons who want to mine it from yourselves!
2782  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 13 Potential Markets de-listed from Bittrex on Monday, June 2nd on: May 31, 2014, 11:39:38 PM
Those coins are all dead so good:)
2783  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN][BS] BitSlap! PoW x11 ***Delayed on: May 31, 2014, 10:27:26 PM
such a unpredictable launch , drive me up from my bed ,but....

You are joking right?
2784  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN][BS] BitSlap! PoW x11 ***Delayed on: May 31, 2014, 10:26:37 PM
I might come back later just to have a laugh but won't be mining this BS:)
2785  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN][BS] BitSlap! PoW x11 ***Delayed on: May 31, 2014, 10:25:16 PM
Good luck suckers - thought this might be a good idea - but those block rewards - lol.   Bravo devs at least you made us laugh.  As for the fools who still want to mine this, you're welcome to it and if you are that stupid you deserve to be ripped off.  All the best:)
2786  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Mjollnircoin - MNR - Ultra-secure, Fast Transactions & ASIC resistant on: May 30, 2014, 09:43:12 PM

Very nice.  I love the hammers especially!  In fact might look more stylish to just have the hammer as the logo without any letters (my favourite is the grey/silver colour) as a lot of coins just use letters/words.  The coin logo work is awesome and memorable on its own.
2787  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PURE][X11] PURECOIN - NETHASH 89.5 GH/s | New CONF!! on: May 30, 2014, 06:40:19 PM
buy support on 1450 sat, i dont know what to do. continue to mine, or mine something else. If it is a scam why ~1000 workers on dedicated and nethashrate from 15-30Gh  Angry Undecided

Because some people are stupid and never learn.  This was a scam from the beginning but anyway let them get scammed if they are so desperate.
2788  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [POOL][BCN][MRO][QCN][BTC][LTC] Minergate 2.5% FEE on: May 30, 2014, 02:29:06 PM
I can't withdraw any of my coins.  I keep trying to and nothing happens!
2789  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PURE][X11] PURECOIN - NETHASH 89.5 GH/s | New CONF!! on: May 30, 2014, 02:15:27 PM
I don't receive my payments from dedicated pool. Anybody else ?

Write to cryptoaltex.

You are a scammer pure and simple.  How you have the gall to actually come back and accuse CryptoAltex of stealing from you and then to try and pretend that all is above board is beyond me.  If I were you I would be very careful as there are a lot of tech savvy people baying for your blood.  Coming back on with this nonsense after your fraud is just tempting fate and anyone stupid enough to fall for your lies now deserves to be ripped off.
2790  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PURE][X11] PURECOIN - NETHASH 89.5 GH/s | POW- 100 HOURS on: May 30, 2014, 01:04:46 PM
Any exchange?

I may turn it back on tomorrow depending on what the community wants.  It's currently disabled due to the dev dumping the premine and the different forks.


Arrghhhh- Another premine scam- F+ck. Sad

Thx for information.


Good idea.  You said the dev dumped the entire 250k premine.  So in this case, the premine is no longer a factor.  Purecoin can live on without the fear of anymore dev dump.

Maybe the community wants to take over the development of purecoin?   Any takers?

Follow my logic?


http://dedicatedpool.com
Ryan, dedicatedpool.com support/admin
admin@dedicatedpool.com / IRC on freenode ##dedicatedpool


You are disappointing for someone with such high reputation. You keep pushing for your own interests and in this case your interest (keeping the coin alive) is not what is best for the community - relaunch. With relaunch your pool's current hashrate will be worthless and this is only that matters to you, whatever you say its all about $$$ that you make from fees. I don't even understand what is the reason that your pool (or any other pool) are collecting these fees - you don't do any good for community (in this case you destroyed the coin by your fork), its only about greed and $$$ and you don't give a shit about the coin - you will dump the coins you collect from the fess as soon as they become listed on the bigger exchange.

We have to collect fees because we lose money every month on server fees.  We lose sleep constantly for little to no pay, and get reamed out on forums as 'scammers' when it's most often fly-by-night coin launches that end up hurting people.  

How can you say pool operators do no good for the community when we're usually the folks finding issues and fixing them.  We're the front lines of the crypto scene, dealing with the non-stop DoS attacks and trolling.

The real question here should be: "Why would you shit all over your life just to take shit from pubbies" and that's something I ask myself constantly.
Dedicatedpool with his fees and 50% network hashrate gets 1%+ coins which is sometimes more than what the dev team has and yet they don't support/promote the coin in any way. People talk about dumpers, I think pool operators are the biggest dumpers of any coin. Maybe smaller pools are barely breaking even but dedicatepool certainly is not and yet they behave in a reckless way.
DDoS attacks are because pool operators are fighting for $$$ in fees, no pools - no DDoS.
Do you really think that we will believe that you lose sleep constantly for little to no pay? Yeah right, tell that to someone outside crypto world. People living in the US where outside option for job opportunity is one of the highest in the world are choosing to become pool operators as their day job - it has to be very profitable to run the pool. I would buy your story if pool operators were from developing countries were it is very hard to earn any $$$ and maybe they would work for pennies but this is not true - US/Canadian pools dominate crypto by ripping off the miners and dumping coins in the market.

We all want transparency from dev's premine but why don't we require transparency from pool operators? They can easily dump their coins and everybody is fine with it.

Put your money where your mouth is - go run a pool.  You probably can't, because the technical knowledge required to do it properly instantly makes you eligible to make 40-80k USD / year working a day job, so you wouldn't be running your mouth over 1.6btc a shit coin dev dumped on today's coin.  If you do pull it off, you'll learn very fast that the only money to be made in this niche is when you go through the shit Dedicated did for months and build up a following.  All of which can come crashing down to a DoS attack while you're sleeping, so you need partners.  

Why don't you ask why Multipool was begging for venture capital on some crypto-stock exchange so he could quit his dayjob?  That pool has 26gh/s, so do you really think us guys with 500mh/s are rolling in it?  All you are doing here is showing off your hater skills, on the internet.
All I wanted to say is that running a pool is just a commodity - using open source code, installing it and renting a server is certainty something that doesn't create anything new in the crypto world. Developing a coin is completely different game and yet these pools get the same % as coin developers. If pool operators should earn 40-80k/year as you say than how much should coin developers earn? Multiples of that I guess, and yet whenever there is a premine people scream scam but when pool operators are dumping no one even cares.
To me - scam is when pool operators cause forks, force people to be on their fork, dump the coin etc. Why should these people earn 40-80k/year is beyond my understanding - in developing economies (China/India etc) there are enough knowledgeable people who could do the same job for 10% of that reward and everybody would be better off (less dumping, DDoS etc) apart from current pool operators.

If running a pool takes nothing but some open source code and a rented server, go ahead and do it.  Once you magically show us all how it's done, enjoy making no money.
If I do it, and I am thinking about it, the fees will not be 1 or 2%, but 10% of that, i.e. 0.1 or 0.2% - this should be more than enough to pay for the servers. The problem is that community will not trust my pool, I will have to think how to go around this.

Let me ask you, if a pool doesn't sell their coins how are we supposed to pay our server fees?  It's such a simple question.  You go on about how you want pool operators to be transparent, well that's what the block chain is for.  You've got the exchange owner that outright said it wasn't Dedicated that dumped the premine, but you keep going on about pools.  
1-2% is way more than what is required to pay for the servers. As you said, pool operators who are running pools as their dayjob are making 40-80k/year and we are paying for this. There is no reason to pay for it as setting up a pool is rather simple task (I did setup a couple of private pools for my own rigs). Instead of having N pools being up at launch for every single coin we could have 10N pools randomly being up at launch

You're a total hypocrite yelling for transparency when you create some alt account on this forum and instantly start attacking people with your massive 18 post count.  Who are you to ask for transparency when you somehow come out of nowhere and start discussing how shibecoin was an instamine and dedicated is creating forks, how could an 18 post newbie know this kind of stuff.  You say pool operators bring nothing to the table, look at your past posts and ask what you're doing other than try to be the internet hall pass monitor.
I am not trolling, I am discussing the issues that I currently see with new coins. Transparency is required from the ones that are running the show - devs and pools, however for some reason community is only questioning the dev teams.

I really don't know where you're coming up with this China/India crap like they're somehow morally superior to everyone else at 10% the price.  They're people, just like everyone else, the amount of dumping and ddos'ing would most likely be the same.  I don't know where you come up with this fantasy stuff about pool operators being in on some kind of anti-industry conspiracy.  
China/India offers cheaper labor, the labor for which we (the community) are paying for when we use the pools. The problem is that there is little trust in new pools and pool mining has been centralized in the hands of very few. However, these pools are only providing human labor and nothing more and we are paying for it. Why are we hiring white clerk workers to work at McDonalds?

Regardless, you're a troll, your post history shows that.  You have never said anything positive once in any thread, and you talk about bringing solutions to the table.  The only thing I can see remotely close to a solution is you proposing that we all stop and let people in China/India enlighten us about your dreams of convenient morality.
You are accusing me of trolling without actually trying to understand the problem that pool mining is facing. Multipools are bad, somehow people agree on this, but regular pools are not better.

Revelation give it up.  You were wrong.  The dev is now trying to get back his dumped coins from Cryptoaltex - is this now somehow Dedicated Pool's fault too?  You come across like an obsessed stalker.  You failed with your disinformation now move on.
2791  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PURE][X11] PURECOIN - NETHASH 89.5 GH/s | POW- 100 HOURS on: May 30, 2014, 02:41:13 AM


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Because I saw this coin launched and checked it out, and saw the same shit I have seen several times from dedicated pools. I never mined a lick. You chose to be so adamant and defend dedicated pools.

 You better check yourself as I am not a newbie here, and I am somewhat respected for my various contributions to various successful coins.


Really? - I'm proud of you (LMFAO).  Do you tell yourself that in the mirror when you jerk off to your own reflection?

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If you truly are new here, and have no affiliation with dedicated pools, I will tell it to you like I was taught when I was wrong. Shut your fucking mouth.


Like I give a shit or am scared of you. I will give  my opinion if I choose.  You just swung by to shit stir and make unfounded accusations. 

Pathetic.
2792  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PURE][X11] PURECOIN - NETHASH 89.5 GH/s | POW- 100 HOURS on: May 30, 2014, 02:24:52 AM
It seems I have mined nothing but fuk up coins all week,,,,,,,geez lol..... not really many new ones lately worth a shit. Kinda leaving a bad taste in my mouth about x11 coins... or at least the latter ones clones etc. I just feel bad for those who spent big bucks on rentals only to loose big. But that's the risk they want to take apparently.

Agree. I seem to be picking them lately not so much mining but trading (by buying just before the scam is revealed).  Need to be even more paranoid now:(
2793  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PURE][X11] PURECOIN - NETHASH 89.5 GH/s | POW- 100 HOURS on: May 30, 2014, 02:22:02 AM
http://pure.v2.dedicatedpool.com/index.php?page=statistics&action=blocks&height=13&prev=1
Dedicated stole the premine, look at block 2. Their pool was working before the nodes were operational. None of the pools were running and noone was syncing apart from dedicated. People are accusing other pools for not being on the correct chain but it is dedicated who actually caused the forked and killed this coin.
In case dedicated removes this premine block here is the snapshot of their statistics page:
http://imageupper.com/i/?S0200010020013W140141042594656

Why do you people keep going with dedicatedpool - they've destroyed this coin and you keep trusting them... It is actually community's fault for having such trust in one pool.

They ceated their own chain , so if you go back to the lower chain with the nodes in the op posted by the dev
everyone will be on the right chain and coins in dedicatedpool will not be valid
Block 2 worth 250k coins was mined by dedicatedpool. This was supposed to be dev's premine! Why did people and other pools follow dedicated? This was a mistake.
Dedicatedpool was online before anyone else could even sync, the nodes were not reachable and yet the pool operator decided to go with the launch. This has nothing to do with having bigger hashrate but rather with being dishonest and not waiting for nodes to be online. Read the thread right after the launch, no one was able to sync but somehow dedicated started to mine immediately. For mechanical reasons dedicatedpool blockchain became longer as it was launched before anyone else could connect to the network. As a result - dev lost his premine.
I believe dev wasn't aware of any problems at the beginning as he was on non-dedicatedpool chain and he didn't see any problems (his premine was in place and everything seemed ok from his point of view). It is not dev's fault, it is the fault of dedicatedpool who was in a rush to take as much network hashrate as possible and launched his pool before the nodes were up.

OK now if you want to remain ignorant, that is your choosing. The dedicated pool was controlled by loljosh. As a matter of fact he IS the dedicated pool. They perpetrated the same scam on LibertyCoin with a 24hash.com pool that disappeared into thin air without having made but a few payouts to miners. Who had the rest of the mined coins? That's right, loljosh and his accomplice, Templar 77/ Carlos R. Torres Ferguson. Follow their trail, they have quite an active one full of skeletons of shit coins (scam jobs).



OK so if you are saying that these same people are behind dedicated pool what is your proof?  

 By the same token.. why do you defend them so hard?

Because I'm their lawyer!  Joking aside I'm just annoyed that the finger of blame isn't being pointed at the developer.

 No because you are defending a pool who has repeatedly stole in the past. You sound like their fucking lawyer.

I was not aware of them stealing in the past.  I am only speaking from my own experience.  If you have a problem with my opinion go fuck yourself (Oh you are already).
Guy's pay attention here.. the biggest proponent of dedicated pools is Soul_eater_123, He has been a member here for barely over 3 months. Track dedicated pools timeline. Check this asswipes history, and post tendencies.  Scrapp never mislead, or do wrong. I never mined this coin, in fact by the time I learned of it this shit already went down.

 Facts are facts.

 Where is the dev? Why is dedicated pool tied to yet another scandalous coin? Shit starts adding up. I have seen them do this kind of bullshit on various coins. Oh yea, they have a sweet logo, and their pools appear to work, and do minimally. That in itself is the facade.
You're right man.

Because you think you know everything.

That's why I'm agreeing with your brainfarts.




This is what I had to put up with from people for trying to save them from being scammed!
2794  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PURE][X11] PURECOIN - NETHASH 89.5 GH/s | POW- 100 HOURS on: May 30, 2014, 02:18:14 AM
Why is this thread for this shitcoin still popping up in my watched threads list?
I cant get it off here despite clicking on unwatch!  Angry

I wish i never posted here!  Tongue

Same here!  I keep getting pulled in by retarded posts - how do I kill it?
2795  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PURE][X11] PURECOIN - NETHASH 89.5 GH/s | POW- 100 HOURS on: May 30, 2014, 02:16:56 AM
I also lost quite a bit of Purecoins today.  How do I get them back?

I like the coins numbers and want to see it continue, but damn, that killed me today.

If the dev or someone could please PM me and let me know how to recover my losses I would appreciate it.

There is no coin guys. It's worthless.  Anyway - I give up!  Some people can't be helped.
2796  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PURE][X11] PURECOIN - NETHASH 89.5 GH/s | POW- 100 HOURS on: May 30, 2014, 02:15:28 AM
Catch up, mate - dev dumped his premine on Cryptoaltex - blamed Dedicated Pool (saying they stole it) - Cryptoaltex had to suspend trading and we all got screwed.  Delete the wallet and rescan it for malware.
2797  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PURE][X11] PURECOIN - NETHASH 89.5 GH/s | POW- 100 HOURS on: May 30, 2014, 02:12:21 AM
http://pure.v2.dedicatedpool.com/index.php?page=statistics&action=blocks&height=13&prev=1
Dedicated stole the premine, look at block 2. Their pool was working before the nodes were operational. None of the pools were running and noone was syncing apart from dedicated. People are accusing other pools for not being on the correct chain but it is dedicated who actually caused the forked and killed this coin.
In case dedicated removes this premine block here is the snapshot of their statistics page:
http://imageupper.com/i/?S0200010020013W140141042594656

Why do you people keep going with dedicatedpool - they've destroyed this coin and you keep trusting them... It is actually community's fault for having such trust in one pool.

They ceated their own chain , so if you go back to the lower chain with the nodes in the op posted by the dev
everyone will be on the right chain and coins in dedicatedpool will not be valid
Block 2 worth 250k coins was mined by dedicatedpool. This was supposed to be dev's premine! Why did people and other pools follow dedicated? This was a mistake.
Dedicatedpool was online before anyone else could even sync, the nodes were not reachable and yet the pool operator decided to go with the launch. This has nothing to do with having bigger hashrate but rather with being dishonest and not waiting for nodes to be online. Read the thread right after the launch, no one was able to sync but somehow dedicated started to mine immediately. For mechanical reasons dedicatedpool blockchain became longer as it was launched before anyone else could connect to the network. As a result - dev lost his premine.
I believe dev wasn't aware of any problems at the beginning as he was on non-dedicatedpool chain and he didn't see any problems (his premine was in place and everything seemed ok from his point of view). It is not dev's fault, it is the fault of dedicatedpool who was in a rush to take as much network hashrate as possible and launched his pool before the nodes were up.

OK now if you want to remain ignorant, that is your choosing. The dedicated pool was controlled by loljosh. As a matter of fact he IS the dedicated pool. They perpetrated the same scam on LibertyCoin with a 24hash.com pool that disappeared into thin air without having made but a few payouts to miners. Who had the rest of the mined coins? That's right, loljosh and his accomplice, Templar 77/ Carlos R. Torres Ferguson. Follow their trail, they have quite an active one full of skeletons of shit coins (scam jobs).



OK so if you are saying that these same people are behind dedicated pool what is your proof?  

 By the same token.. why do you defend them so hard?

Because I'm their lawyer!  Joking aside I'm just annoyed that the finger of blame isn't being pointed at the developer.

 No because you are defending a pool who has repeatedly stole in the past. You sound like their fucking lawyer.

I was not aware of them stealing in the past.  I am only speaking from my own experience.  If you have a problem with my opinion go fuck yourself (Oh you are already).
Guy's pay attention here.. the biggest proponent of dedicated pools is Soul_eater_123, He has been a member here for barely over 3 months. Track dedicated pools timeline. Check this asswipes history, and post tendencies.  Scrapp never mislead, or do wrong. I never mined this coin, in fact by the time I learned of it this shit already went down.

 Facts are facts.

 Where is the dev? Why is dedicated pool tied to yet another scandalous coin? Shit starts adding up. I have seen them do this kind of bullshit on various coins. Oh yea, they have a sweet logo, and their pools appear to work, and do minimally. That in itself is the facade.

Fuck you cartoon character.  I lost out as much as anyone.  For all i know you are the dev.  The issue is clear now.  So stop spamming with your BS or are you disappointed you cashed out your premine for such a pathetic amount.  If you didn't mine this coin - why the hell are you here?
2798  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PURE][X11] PURECOIN - NETHASH 89.5 GH/s | POW- 100 HOURS on: May 30, 2014, 02:09:32 AM
All I know is my wallet will not sync now and I have payouts going out from Dedicated pool to it.... any reasons why its not syncing?

The coin is dead.  What are you syncing for?
2799  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PURE][X11] PURECOIN - NETHASH 89.5 GH/s | POW- 100 HOURS on: May 30, 2014, 02:09:01 AM
Every honest pool operator would notice that something is wrong with his blockchain when you are the only one on it but binaryclock insisted that dedicatedpool was on the correct blockchain and used his reputation to force everyone to use their forked blockchain.

QFT. Binaryclock has lost all respect in my eyes.

You have fallen in to believing the trolls.  Please review my post above before making any rash decisions.


http://dedicatedpool.com
Ryan, dedicatedpool.com support/admin
admin@dedicatedpool.com / IRC on freenode ##dedicatedpool



Thanks for clearing things up.  I thought it was all BS - the "losing a premine" excuse is getting old.  The problem is I get treated like I'm doing something wrong for stating the obvious.
2800  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PURE][X11] PURECOIN - NETHASH 89.5 GH/s | POW- 100 HOURS on: May 30, 2014, 01:50:47 AM
I'm sorry if that were even true it means that the developer didn't do what they were supposed to and actually premine the premine.  Also if dedicated took the premine block they would have a hell of a lot more than 250K coins.  Please stop defending the developer.  If they were stupid enough to allow dedicated to start when they hadn't premined then they are too clueless to run a coin.

Soul_eater, 250K is exactly the 2.5% premine at 10mil coins.  You are saying other misleading things as well.

Actually the premine would be in the first block.  Dedicated mined a lot more than just one block.  So actually get your facts straight.  Anyway I'm not here to defend dedicated.  You are free too take it up with them and if you want to blindly go on trusting the developer and saying this is the fault the one pool that seemed to be getting things right then that is up to you.  I have already wasted enough on this fiasco.  Some people just can't see the truth if it is staring them in the face.
Blocks 1 and 2 were supposed to be part of the premine, I suppose. Block 1 with 1 coin reward as a test block and block 2 with 250k coins reward. Both blocks were mined by dedicatedpool. If you look at alternative chain, the one that should be the correct chain and the one that you can get by deleting dedicatedpool's chain and syncing again you would see that blocks 1 and 2 had one transaction each with transaction ids:
7e8e940921208a2632562d121891a2ae91f09d56628f3b982eb55c6cba6ba666
c5ca2717740dc4054d8a0b068b1a29f176fa33a04b2f3b7ce4b8a561257248ed
the recipient address for both of these transactions is: LiYzgezkovGYve8dk1g8ifxochXEBTWanB
Which, I believe, is the dev's premine address. This blockchain is rougly 110 blocks behind dedicatedpool's chain.

How do you know those went to Dedicated Pool and not the developer- unless dedicated show you can access their wallet or indeed the developer's wallet you can't be sure who took the coins?  Anyway I'm bored with the minutiae of it.  Whoever is at fault - I'm out of it and I'm not getting involved in this coin or with this developer again.  If evidence emerges that Dedicated Pool were knowingly part of the scam then I will be avoiding them too but I've mined many other coins with them in the past and there were no irregularities in those cases.
Look at dedicatedpool's block statistics, every single block was mined on their pool for the first 98 blocks(!!!), including blocks 1 and 2. For any pool operator this should ring alarm bell that something is fishy about their blockchain. However, dedicatepool insisted that they are on the correct blockchain and used their reputation to force everyone to jump on their incorrect blockchain, thereby stealing the premine (I am not saying they did it because of the premine, probably they did it to get as much hashrate as possible, but this is reckless behavior).
Transaction that I gave above are from the alternative chain that is now not accepted by community and that shows what dev's premine address is, as block 1 and 2 went to this address. In order to see these transactions you would have to download that blockchain by using OP nodes and don't sync with dedicatedpool.

Hey I'm not saying you are lying but we don't know what happened with the coins.  According to "TheCoinFinder" the developer was working with the pool and they paid the premine to the pool.  Anyway I'm not sure what to believe anymore.  I just know I didn't do anything wrong and got screwed again:(
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