So how many people on here have actually used cryptocurrency in real life?
I do used cryptocurrency in real life. I used the service of Coins.ph to pay for bills. I also buy game credits using Bitcoin and send remittance to my friends and relatives using Bitcoin. I also pay items that I order to other coins.ph users with Bitcoin. Third party aplications made it possible for us to use Bitcoin in our daily lives. It maybe indirect but it is using Bitcoin as mode of payment nonetheless. Yupp I think there's plenty platform like coins.ph that offerings you to pay Bills through bitcoin deposit start from the internet bill, Car payments Credit card payments etc . I personally now is on my way building my own startup to offer this kind service *fingers crossed wish me luck. The most easy to find and most transactions is buying giftcards , I used gyft .com for this and i believe so do with everyone else right? Can't see any better place for that. I used to make bitcoin transaction since 2013/2014 , I find it interesting since my first impression about how fast and cheap the transaction through this awesome crypto currency, but now I think things a little bit different... I prefer to use other cryptocurrency with super low transaction fee... yeah unfortunately I recognize bitcoin now as a precious asset that shall not to spend too much too often. |
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I don’t understand what you are writing about. Bids are available on the Match365 web version. Today I have already bet on tomorrow's matches. And with payments I did not notice a problem. Before withdrawing, you need to make an exchange of MC for Bitcoin.  Here is the problem and what I mean, when you bet over 0.5 goals and the game produce a goal early at 5' for example... here in match365 you need to wait until the game finished 90' which it's something I don't like as most sportsbetting do the instant payout once over 0.5 goals reached. Got it now? Hi, Match365 is actually a soccer betting community app. It's not just about betting. Each match has a pub section, it's like a online pub, you can get more happiness from it. Share your big win to the pub, talk about betting tips with other users, f the team that let you down... This match just finished, a guy is sharing his big win(correct score 6-1, odd 33):   Meanwhile, detailed statistics, H2H, key moments animations, text timeline, it's all here. We are continue to add more markets and parlay to Match365 in the next few weeks. All the features from Match365 app will also be available in desktop version soon. Okay good to see there's a lot of progress going in here, I might considering to move here once you decided to offers more market and of course the parlay feature. I've been using your apps since the first day you make an announcement here , unfortunately I can't see those parlay and market coverage a bit limited which that's what i personally need. |
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you are wrong about multiple things here.
- the fact that a lot of shitcoins exist and a lot of projects are scamming people has nothing to do with the technology. it is like saying the technology that created vehicles had a motive to kill people because car accidents are common!
- investors are not losing confident. investors never touched altcoins in firsts place, the huge volumes you saw in 2017 was from "gamblers" not investors. and since gamblers always lose they eventually go away.
Yeah the statement itself contains a lot of defect in logic , you can't just blame the whole blockchain technology wrong due driving a lot of scam projects, just look at the bright side where it's driving a lot of useful projects too for the long term , people is too easy to generalizing something and that's wrong. Better to educate yourself more intensive so you'll be able to look at the project in crypto currency space with the real use case and a vision to solve a tough complicated problem that has been exist for years. The ico hype is over , the amount of shitcoins under fake project is no longer aggressively flooding the market as the system and people around the community has learned from the past experience. End of the words, we are just fine |
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And let me remind you guys if you really forgot that SPAL successfully held napoli draw in the last match, would you rethink about how ac milan won't get draw and hurting you in the end?
Well that's not good  But AC Milan are not in the same position as Napoli who's been near the top of the league table, the former has has a bad run ever since the season started. Napoli didn't need a win as if the future of the club depended on it, Milan does, a win is crucial today. Also, Spal have lost every single away game this season. This match has " AC Milan WIN" written all over it LOL  As predicted, Ac milan is really struggling to score even against the 19th team . The game itself run quite open with several chances got wasted, there's 8 yellow cards in this game, 4 cards each ... that's a record lol , ac Milan this season quite often receive cards, 4 red card already and it's happened in the last 8 games only! 1-0 for the home team and it's always be a safe bet on every ac Milan game to bet on under goals ... bookies give you odds @4 for under 1.5 goals and even under 3.5 goals gives you odds @1.4 which it's high enough for this kind game. |
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I saw web version available yesterday, that is a good news.
... I finally waited for the web version of match365.com, but it turned out that the smartphone application is more convenient. There is no wheel of fortune in the web version, which can be used in case of an unsuccessful bet. In addition, there are no promotions in the web version that Match 365 holds for the mobile version. Na ah , if they add more market just like any other sportsbook I think the web version would be better one. Even I think now so far the site is presented in a good condition, I mean things run so smooth light and fast! I love it. However is there Any plan to develop this into full sportsbetting platform? Can't see an option to make a parlay there till now.... Also about the betting settlement time , is it done yet to make it instant payout ? I mean about the over goals that supposed to be instant payout once it's passed , no more delayed till the end of the game, as I still experienced it I think. |
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Well, I believe finite supply is like a stamp collection. It's "collectors item" in terms of economics. It will lose its fungibility in time and people will want to have bitcoin because of its rarity. It's perfect for store of value, but it cannot be used currency of modern world just because of "right of economics". You know that guy who is a stamp collector and burnt his one of high priced stamp, and consequently second one's price went to the roof.
Monero can be a currency of an utopic world. However, we are not living in an utopic world. It won't be used except privacy enthusiasts, criminals, some wannabes and Linux cowboys in the future, I'm afraid.
I couldn't have said any better, the decentralized concept used by bitcoin actually should be a problem solver on the current economic struggle, but those stubborn world leaders can never let this inventions used widely anytime soon. It takes really long long time for bitcoin to be well received and recognized as a currency in the wide community. The volatility still becomes a serious problem, where stable coins recently offering to solve this matters, many crypto stakeholders can't believe in such concept would work . So the only way to make bitcoin considered as good enough as a currency is just waiting a little longer till the time where people can accept every single thing in bitcoin come. |
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Liverpool C need to fix improve their defense and avoid sloppy passes. Almost all of the Arsenal goals were made because of their own mistakes.
Origi is a goat, scored two beautiful goals with style. Damn.
Thought liverpool played with liverpool B , damn arsenal can't even win against those liverpool C team lol . Luckily I got a nice odds for liverpool C to get draw while they are down 4-5 at 85' , the odds was @4.8 I really love doing this especially to liverpool who frequently to left behind and making a tense comeback. Long live live betting! Unfortunately my team chelsea didn't make it to get through the league cup next round , this league cup actually the only realistic trophy that Lampard could get. I feel Manchester United always lucky everytime playing against chelsea this season , they always get a penalty kick reward... I don't know if it was part of ole strategy to instruct his players to get a goal through penalty? Everyone can see it that Manchester United is the only team with the most penalty kick rewarded this season so far. |
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I don't know where such conclusions come from.
The price goes down a bit and everybody talking about 3500$, then the price goes up a bit a suddenly we have predictions of 22000$ or more.
None of this is realistic and it's hard to tell where the Bitcoin price next moment will be.
Just the very next day price might go under 8000$ again and to achieve 22000$ or more at this moment sound a bit exaggerated.
Here we are in optimistic phase where optimistic speculators popping up out of nowhere.. it's always happening and nothing wrong but things become more makes no sense whenever the market stuck and that's the turning point for the pessimistic phase turn to show up. I won't call it bullish / bearish as mostly we've seen that the speculation made based on nothing but FOMO&FUD mixed. The fact that this kind guesses won't get you anything but a disappointment due people are putting too high expectations in bitcoin ignoring all the data and facts around. |
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is the odd @1.50 enough to risk today?
For me, it is:  Those odds are hard to pass up, specially if you consider going for a parlay like I did. Their current form at home is worrisome, but they need to show some spirit today FFS!! They're playing against Spal, 19th in the league table! A win is a must today, no matter how they do it, they have to win. Their next 3 games: Lazio, Juventus, Napoli  Go Allin! Every betting group suggested to go allin for ac milan to win tonight, it's just make me worry that the match might won't run as usual ... I mean you know Italy well known with the fixing match and this just crossed in my mind like that, I don't know if I maybe just overthinking ... should I join you guys? I'll just wait till the game started and might have higher odds later. And let me remind you guys if you really forgot that SPAL successfully held napoli draw in the last match, would you rethink about how ac milan won't get draw and hurting you in the end? |
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Todays sportsbet special I wasnt too sure if I won it or not because I didnt remember if there was an option for a tie of how many goals were scored and if it included penalty shootout goals as well.  But lucky for me it did include both those as the caraboo cup rule does not have any overtime play after a draw match but goes straight into penalties. So liverpool had more total goals than arsenal in the match including the shootout.   Two for two in the sportsbet specials this week. So happy now! Of course! There's a goal fest on liverpool vs arsenal game ... 10 goals total as the match ended 5-5 , what an entertaining midweek! You got it right , enjoy your good day mate. Where chelsea game only produced 3 goals in total ... united come out as a winner with outstanding performance from rashford, that stunning free kick though, astonishing! I got 1 win for today out of 12 betslip I put in , never feel so unlucky like this before daymn. |
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I need someone who can get me a good competitive price for every CDKEY (steam/origin mostly) I ordered.
I'm going to re-start the business that actually I have been working on since few years ago but I'm off for a while for some reasons.
I was doing this business with someone that working in steam and provide me cheaper price than what available on the game keys market such as g2play, cdkeys, kinguin etc unfortunately I'm not longer get in touch with them.
PM me if you have a good offer
Cheers!
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Liverpool scored the first against Arsenal. I had not bet on this game but it's a good opportunity to bet on this game. While Liverpool is leading, the odds for them is now 1.80. Liverpool is playing at Anfield and I think there is high probability that Liverpool will win this game. I just bet on Liverpool.
Edit:
3-1 Arsenal until 40th minute. I cannot believe it.
3-2 Arsenal.
From now on you should learn to bet against people opinion ... I mean look at the odds since beginning bookies provide higher odds for liverpool to win for reason , they play with 8 players that never be in the usual liverpool line up while arsenal playing with less inexperienced players. Pre-match odds @2.8 for liverpool to win and @ 2.4 for arsenal to win Live odds 86' @51 for liverpool @5 for draw and @1.16 for arsenal A really bold odds! It's 4-5 for arsenal now ... can't see liverpool could catch up arsenal , a draw might still possible with 4 minutes left to play |
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Napoli just scored the second goal and now they are leading and the match is almost over.
If they win they will catch Atalanta on the 3rd spot on the leaderboar.
In 30 minutes all the rest will play.
Live report .. Napoli 2 vs 2 Atalanta , Josip Iličić just scored a late equaliser at 86' .. it must be hurt for the home team as the 3 points in the bag got robbed. It seems Napoli a little bit out of title race .. one step behind Atlanta now. And the only major contender for juventus to win serie A so far is inter milan, can't see any team near the top 2. I believe Atlanta won't survive on third place for long , you can see it through the bookies line for them. Edit : the game has just finished FT 2-2 Include crazy 8 minutes injury time |
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Too late ...
I've spent 0.15 bitcoin monthly back in 2014 to pay internet bills worth $60 for around 5 to 8 months i guess if I'm not mistaken.
Always feeling blue when I look back and see these transactions made by me , my internet bill worth $1,500 at the current bitcoin price damn it was a real deep regret I ever feel.
I don't get it, what is so regretful about spending your bitcoin on things that you are obligated to pay or buy, if you didn't spend that 0.15 bitcoin for your internet bill, would that make you happy? (your internet would be long gone by now), and you don't have to compare the prices of bitcoin before and its price right now, that doesn't make any sense at all. It will only be regretful if you spend it on some bullshits and nonsense things that doesn't help you survive your everyday life in this world, just keep earning. You don't get it as you don't know how it feels for real feel like wasted too much money in the past due the bitcoin price changes drastically! I won't complain anything if the changes just a couple bucks but it was too much, too much pain in my shoulder everytime I compare the current and past value. I was bought a car for 800 ethereum too worth $16,000 as that time 1 ethereum was only $20 , tell me how could not hurt is that? Realizing today ethereum value is $200 each even touched $1,000 ... I supposed riding a lambo right now instead a regular BMW. I should save it more and spend less , bitcoin as a currency to spend in daily basis seems not fit at this point. |
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Only negative side is, I recommended this site to many of my friends but players like myself who lives in Turkey are facing problems to access the site and have to use VPN.
I don't know so much about your Country Turkey but could it be by any chance that betting or gambling is prohibited in your country. If it is true that could be the reason you can't access the website except through VPN. I would recommend you against doing it because one day you might get unlucky and get your funds locked up. No I think just because you can't access through the original ip doesn't mean you will get blocked at some point later on. I'm sure I didn't find this against any fj t&c here https://m.fortunejack.com/faq/terms_and_conditions ,no country restrictions or something like that mentioned there, sometimes I have to use VPN too to access fj and so far so good i mean nothing happened to my account by doing this. Am i wrong David? |
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But somehow, there are journalists who still think that Valverde has a lot to do with how the team plays LOL
It is ridiculous how Messi carries the team when he is on the pitch. He creates spaces in the opposition defence and has incredible vision, all this goes without saying tho. With a really technical coach, Barcelona should be firing on all cylinders every match week. But we get little Sparks of brilliance, especially at home. The away form and football is terrible. Removing the Messi and Camp Nou effect, Barcelona becomes just a normal team. Magnificent messi as usual , he provided 1 goal and 1 assist in the first 45 minutes and make it 2 goals + 2 assist at the full time aaand He is now scored 50 goals through direct free kick, what a stats! Unfortunately my bet for over 6.5 goals was lost, it's short 1 goal only to get my betslip with odds @11 turned into green. It's indeed it seems barcelona is dead whenever messi isn't in the field... this is really a bad sign for Barcelona future as it would took really long time to get player on the same level as messi , nobody can replace him for real. |
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If you ever plan to visit Istanbul, We have an office in Grandbazaar and we pay cash for your bitcoins. You can cash out your bitcoins tax free. Pm me here or my telegram is @djefess
Guys I dont own the store. If I refer someone, I get paid. That is why I did not write the name of the store. Sorry. You can also meet in anywhere to transact but I wrote Grandbazaar because it is a wellknow public place. Also if you have Turkish bank account, It is possible to wire the money in your bank account But you can easily do it with localbitcoins too.
There is a contradiction in the story, you said "We have an office in Grandbazaar" and then scrapped it "Guys I dont own the store.." The problem is that making a deal in a public place "especially famous and open to tourists" is used by thieves to steal money as foreigners do not know much about the geography of the place. Many prefer to conduct transactions in less crowded places such as cafes and others or using some legal stores. It may be better for you to promote the service using localbitcoin or try to follow legal means if Turkey allows cryptocurrencies. Haha gotcha. This tradional way to exchange your bitcoin for cash unprofessionally-managed won't work , people would prefer to use a professional services such as local bitcoin of course for security reason , op you do aware about this right? The first principle when you deal with people on the internet is to not trust anybody! Of course unless if there's something to prove / verify in real word to see your track records such as a well known registered company to make us feel secure , otherwise this is unlikely happened unfortunately. |
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I would expect all teams to use this as a chance to give their first team a rest. All four teams are involved in European football (2 in UCL and 2 in UEL) and the games are coming in fast as we approach the Christmas period. I believe Liverpool and Chelsea has more depth in their squad than Arsenal and Manchester United. I would back them to make it to the next round. Lampard has indicated that he would make a rotation and I guess there will be more youngster added in the bench to come in later , Billy glamour and Reeve James is a sure name that would I'll the line up. Against Manchester United never be an easy game especially I can see that they are on good path after winning the last two games against norwich and partizan Belgrade, a real booster to get another win. I won't make any bet on this game but maybe later live betting would be considered.... depends how the game going. Liverpool is on unbeaten run which they won't lose this one easily eventhough they might using second team where arsenal team's atmosphere seems a bit dark after granit xhaka outburst... Liverpool to win at first half seems delicious @3.7 , I'll give it a shot. |
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Bro, give it up!!! You can't hold the fort!!! It was the Chinese!!
Do you honestly think you can talk sense in an army of zombies?
Let's see the effects, XI makes his speech on the 24th. On the 25th (Chinese time) the news is aired all over China.
But!!!
Nothing happens!
But at 3-4 PM European time, and at 1 AM in the morning (on a SATURDAY) in China, the pump happens!
It was of course because of the Chinese running at midnight to their ATMs (ops, they don't have that in China), .. well-doing something else, (since the banks are closed) and ...they bought bitcoin!!! The Chinese miracle!!!!
Of course, we have to figure out how the previous pump in June that took us from 7700 to 13 500 happened without China, but, I have the feeling it was also becuase of China.
'God created the universe and the rest was made in china' this quote seems so relatable that nowadays everything happened in this world always involved china. Is it really that big? The china impact? Yes it is especially when it comes to cryptocurrency where it's claimed that china are largely responsible for cryptocurrency's success not only because Chinese contribution on the market volume and a lot of huge bitcoin miners are come from china due electricity factor. It's just classic china. They only need to pull the trigger and the rest let the crowd make it wild! |
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I would prefer to pick over goals , as you said Barcelona have plenty of time to prepare for this game and the players more than ready and fit to play .. feeling fresh and for me possibly there a lot of goals to score as they will play full team de Jong messi Suarez and griezmann possibly in the line up, let's try over 6.5 goals @11 . I think over 3.5 or 4.5 would be much safer Barcelona haven't really gotten back to their best of scoring 5+ goals almost weekly like the used to and am also expecting Valladolid to be a little resistant especially in the First half when they are still fresh. That's why I looking for those 5+ goals coming again .. they have achieved the 5+ goals twice this season right , 5-2 against real betis back in August and another 5-2 against valencia on September. As expected their defensive line is sucks ... the cleansheet it's only last for 15 minutes lol old pique is a joke , I can compare him to mertesacker at arsenal. However it's 5-1 now 84' , one more goal and I won the over 6.5 goals , 2 goals from messi and hopefully score a hattrick to win me this bet . |
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