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2781  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: January 24, 2022, 09:13:11 PM
Bulls lost again and it was a bad lost to Magic. Not sure if anyone has bet on the Magic before last time I check they are the underdog in this game.

I have the Bulls -4.5 to win, so it's another tough loss for me. And I'm sure majority here bet on the Bulls to end their losing streak against a not so good team such as Orlando.


Unfortunately, the spread wasn't enough mate because the Magic scored way more than them. Cheer up! There's still lots of games ahead.
Surely, the Bulls was overwhelmed against the Magic today and seriously it was really an unexpected turn that they'll lose to the weakest team in the league this season, it was a blowout with a 19 points difference. Gotta give these Magic roster some credits for the magnificent play today and almost all of them had a double figure score.

Not only we are talking of the spread, Bulls were the favorite but they lost by a huge margin. Tomorrow, we still have the bulls playing again, it's a back to back game, they maybe are tired here so I don't know if they can beat the OKC Thunder, it's still up to you if you are willing to risk.
I read that Zach Lavine might be back in the Bulls line-up in their game against OKC?

If this news is true, then maybe they can get back at the winning columns because he is already needed because the Bulls has been in a slump recently. DeRozan can't salvage the team by his own, he needed his partner to build the team back again.
I hope that's true, it says "could be back", meaning we have to wait and see if he is really available in the line up.
source; https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls/bulls-zach-lavine-javonte-green-could-return-monday-vs-okc

However, I'm wondering why the odds did not change to their favor, it opened with -2.5 now only -1.5. Something fishy here IMO.


Cleveland against the Knicks, I will put my money on Cavs -5.5.
Good luck, that's a tough choice.
2782  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who creates more impact in bitcoin price the Hodlers or Investors? on: January 24, 2022, 08:39:51 PM
Investors and Holders have different purpose and varied approach about the market. Investors were much focused on long term profiting. This means investors were the one to make more impact over the market than holders. Holders in my opinion were the backing people who enjoy growth out of the investors. The investors always push the market. Investors take the profit and reinvest. This keeps them into balance.

Holders have the target infront of them. This way the market won't get disturbed much, because whether it is bearish or bullish the holders won't move the funds. This means the market won't be disturbed by them out of panic.
I agree on you. Although hodlers are also investors in the first place, but they chose to make less movements in crypto since they are more on long term hodling. While investors on the other hand, they give more impact to the market since they are more on buying and selling coins so they will end up with good amount of profits. But both of them aims for the same target, to make good profits. Its just that one chooses to be in a low risk by simply hodling their coins while investing, buying and selling has certainly higher risks.
2783  Economy / Speculation / Re: BITCOIN - ROAD TO 8,000$ - speculation on: January 24, 2022, 08:11:54 PM
Bitcoin going to $8k would be like only when the internet stops working or if there would be a situation like as of in the movie DON'T LOOK UP. Other than these 2 reasons there is no other situation where the price would fall to $8k, even in this market also the price would have to fall to like 30% of what it is right now and bitcoin loosing 70% of it's value being the pinnacle cryptocurrency is hard to imagine.
Everything is possible for bitcoin even if it means reaching the bottom price this bearish season. But the only thing is we can't predict what will be its bottom price this time. Although i can say that its hard to see bitcoin again falling again below $10k since it's more backed with big institutions these days but considering that its very volatile, then it has all the chances to pull its price down to $8k if this bearish season will continue to rule in the market.
2784  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Casimero vs Butler ordered by WBO on: January 24, 2022, 01:25:12 PM
I don't want to think of another possibility, I just see Casimero winning the fight and it will not last in 12 rounds.
We respect your opinion but please be realistic also.

In every fight, there's always a possibility of upset like Magsayo upset Rusell, so if you are thinking Casimero will win, it's okay but also thinks that he is not unbeatable, and since Butler is also wanting to win, he is also making sure that he does the right training to keep himself 100% condition at the date of the fight.
2785  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: January 24, 2022, 01:01:04 PM
Bulls lost again and it was a bad lost to Magic. Not sure if anyone has bet on the Magic before last time I check they are the underdog in this game.

I have the Bulls -4.5 to win, so it's another tough loss for me. And I'm sure majority here bet on the Bulls to end their losing streak against a not so good team such as Orlando.


Unfortunately, the spread wasn't enough mate because the Magic scored way more than them. Cheer up! There's still lots of games ahead.
Surely, the Bulls was overwhelmed against the Magic today and seriously it was really an unexpected turn that they'll lose to the weakest team in the league this season, it was a blowout with a 19 points difference. Gotta give these Magic roster some credits for the magnificent play today and almost all of them had a double figure score.

Not only we are talking of the spread, Bulls were the favorite but they lost by a huge margin. Tomorrow, we still have the bulls playing again, it's a back to back game, they maybe are tired here so I don't know if they can beat the OKC Thunder, it's still up to you if you are willing to risk.
2786  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Gary Russell vs Mark Magsayo WBC Featherweight Title on: January 24, 2022, 11:43:00 AM
Have anyone seen Gary Russell interview after the fight, the guy is a sore loser claiming he won the majority of the rounds and teaches Magsayo a lesson in boxing, all he has done in the ring is to run and ducked he doesn't even have an offense claiming that he has one hand, it's not Magsayo's fault why he has that injury what is clear is he clearly losses the fight and none of the judges favors him.

Here is the video of that interview

GARY RUSSELL JR. POST-FIGHT VS. MARK MAGSAYO | TALKS JUDGING, INJURY, REMATCH OR MOVE UP

The judges score card was already a garbage and him vehemently denying that he lost the game? Shows what kind of loser Gary Russell is.

Yeah, it could be a different outcome if he is not injured, but he should give credit to Magsayo as he has injury in his right shoulder. So how can he win if he can't even throw his money punch?

Anyhow, it open the window for Magsayo and hopefully he can make it big in the US.

That's probably the start of his good career, he will be having a big fight and that would result in a bigger income. He brings honor to our country and at the same time makes his life better financially and more satisfied as he is already a champion. I hope he will not just stop from being a champion of that division, he can go up in weight and become a champion, I think he is even taller than Pacman so it's not possible for him.
2787  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: January 24, 2022, 11:22:24 AM
Miami Heat - LA Lakers game was really delightful and Heat won the game just as I expected. It was a 113-107 victory and Heat totally deserved it by a great team play. Lebron was Lakers' best as always. He got 33 pts, 11 reb. This time, Westbrook also played well and he got 24 pts, 9 reb, 9 ast. He was really close to making a triple-double. But Lakers still lost the game as the rest of the players couldn't contribute too much. Heat have captured the lead in the conference again by this win and I really wonder what they will do in the playoffs.

It was an entertaining match I have to say. Even though the Lakers played really well in the last quarter, but it was not enough for them to get the win.
Heat got the early lead in the first quarter as they were 39-25. Butler is back and he scored 20 points with 12 assists and 10 rebounds. Duncan Robinson gave him good support by scoring 25 points. Lebron is as always the goat for the Lakers, he scored 33 points, and to my surprise, WB also played a good game but you know, it wasn't enough to beat the Heat.

Now we saw what the Lakers can only do if Lebron and Westbrook are the only ones producing the points, they really need Davis to operate inside as he can also drop an average of 20 points per game and that's big enough as a contribution for the success of the team.
He was a gametime decision on this game, maybe next game he will completely return.
https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2022/1/22/22896510/lakers-injury-report-anthony-davis-working-out-without-knee-brace-video-timeline
2788  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: GGG vs Murata - Reschedule on: January 23, 2022, 09:52:22 PM

I think the burden is on GGG now, the pressure is on him since he is the older guy here at 40 years old while Canelo is in his prime. If Canelo says yes at a catch weight then maybe we can see the fight one last time.

I don't see pressure because this fight is only a bonus to us if it will happen. And besides, even GGG is already 40 years old, he would not feel some pressure since he has not lose in a fight recently, the confidence is still there and he could think that age is just a number.
2789  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Gary Russell vs Mark Magsayo WBC Featherweight Title on: January 23, 2022, 09:30:00 PM
Congrats to the winners, I see that most of the posters here were betting on Magsayo, you enjoy the day.  Smiley

That was so lucky for Magsayo, Rusell got injured so he took advantage of it.
If Rusell wasn't injured, I think Magsayo might lose in this fight because the scorecards result were very close, one judge even score a draw.
Magsayo really did a great job and seriously, Rusell looks no injure at all since he also throw good punches to Magsayo, its just that he is not that good to beat Magsayo. Let’s accept it without any excuses, Magsayo dominate the match and he is now a world champion and still undefeated, luckily I place some bet on the last minute.
He can throw some punches but using only one hand, it was not an excuse but he was clearly injured and it helped Magsayo to win that fight. The scorecard were close although Magsayo won via majority decision, things could be hard for him if Rusell had two hands.

If Russell's camp is not satisfied with this fight, they may ask for a re-match once Russell is fully healed.
But we don't know if Magsayo's camp will easily accept the challenge.
But this chance of Magsayo's winning is very good for his career as he got his first world title.
After this, he may get bigger fights and of course higher paychecks.
And sportsbooks may not underestimate him in his succeeding fights.

Not so easy for Rusell to have a rematch unless the camp will prioritize him on the next match. His injury might be serious and need some time to heal, while he is in the healing process, Magsayo can always fight on the top contenders on the division title he is holding, of course, next fight of him, he will be the favorites.
2790  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: January 23, 2022, 09:07:13 PM

We'll see what would be the spread on Wednesday, but for tomorrow, the game is LA Lakers vs Miami Heat and the spread is +/-2
The Miami Heat have lost against the Hawks, a much weaker team with a .444 percent play but we can't also the deny that the Lakers is also struggling and they have a much weaker defense than the Heat. So, my bet would be MIA @ -2

News also spreading that AD's comeback is still questionable.

If he's back, the spread and ML will be change a lot, he's a game changer. The presence of a two-way player is very important
considering that he's one of the stars of this team.

I check this game during the live telecast, it's tough to bet as early as now, we never know yet if AD will be present or not.

I think the status is still questionable until now.
https://clutchpoints.com/lakers-news-is-anthony-davis-playing-tonight-vs-heat/

However, if Davis would really play, I still think it would not easily make the Lakers better as he was absent for 16 games and he has to re adjust again, and coming from injury, I don't expect him to show his full potential yet, he might only play with limited minutes also.
2791  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If not invested then do it now... on: January 23, 2022, 03:13:34 PM
Of course, I think its very good opportunity for those people who want,s to invest in Crypto currency.if the people who think bitcoin will be zero they will know very soon because very soon we will se very good pump in all crypto currency ,and people who are old in Crypto currency field they know very well ,and they aren't worry at this time, because they know the bitcoin will show the pump very soon.
Well, that is going to happen bitcoin becomes zero.
We have stuck bitcoin in different addresses and I think the demand and supply will be right there.
Right at this moment, it is time to invest in bitcoin, it was dropped more than 15% this week and I think that is to start when bitcoin began to rise again.
It is not time to panic sell, it is a time to fill your portfolio and wait until your profit was there.

Bitcoin for sure will never end up settling in zero value as its always bound to reach new heights every time there are chances.  So we will be left behind if until now we are still hesitant to invest in bitcoin because of its expensive price that makes it a high risk investment. But seeing the market is in a serious dump, definitely this is the best time to invest in bitcoin.  So move now and buy bitcoin. Let us be greedy this time while others seems to be fearful.
2792  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Good moment to buy btc or eth? on: January 23, 2022, 02:28:56 PM
I think there will be a moment when it will actually be possible to buy. But right now, I wouldn't buy it.

Obviously, you assume that the price of BTC and ETH will continue to decline, so you prefer not to make purchases. But if you are wrong, then you will have to buy these coins at a higher price. Therefore, you need to spend part of the deposit on the purchase now, and in case the price continues to decline, continue buying in parts.
Maybe he has only limited funds so he needs to wait for the cheapest price. But i think its impossible to predict the deepest of the dip because the market seems so unpredictable that it changes its value from time to time. The worst thing here is when the market suddenly recovers, then you have missed another opportunity to buy. This is the reason why we need to secure enough funds after a bullish season so that when the bear season comes, we won't be waiting for the cheapest price since we can certainly buy our prospects in every dip.
2793  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your thoughts about online casino vs.physical casino on: January 23, 2022, 01:42:55 PM
Have you ever played online casino?Is the experience similar to playing physically in casino?Which do you prefer?



I prefer an online casino due to the pandemic, gambling at home is the wises idea now to avoid getting infected with the virus. Also, going to casino is expensive as well, you don't only gamble there you can also buy some stuff that would eventually make you lose your money, going to the casino is best done if your purpose is to have fun, but if you are serious in making money, then online casino is the best answer for that.
2794  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] Logan Paul vs Mike Tyson on: January 23, 2022, 12:52:11 PM
Else, the talks about this possible fight will die and there would be no interest that will come from any venues of social medias.
It's okay if the attention will eventually die for this match because the reality is that there's no match for Logan and Mike that will happen.

They need to act and find the suited way to promote and to make this fight happen.
It's from the team of Mike that had verified that there's no match for these two that will happen. That's as per report from the links that have been posted on this thread, the latest posts.

At the same time latest articles from this week say that it will take place in February. Did someone get cold feet?
Mike's at the age when you never know how you'll feel tomorrow. When you go to bed you don't know if you'll wake up. The guy is a legend, but when you're pushing 60 everything weakens starting from reflexes and ending with bone structure. He could really damage himself with this fight.

It doesn't matter to him, he agrees to fight a younger guy so that means he is taking the risk. The funny thing is, even though Tyson is the older, many still believes that he will win, in fact, on the odds that I saw online, he is a heavy favorite to win against Logan.
2795  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: It won't hurt on: January 22, 2022, 11:38:06 PM
Shiba and Doge are the coins that have no fundamental value and thus no fair bottom price. Then can literally fall to zero and you will lose everything. So, I prefer to enter such projects in the beginning only - and spend not more than 100 USD for this.
to say shiba to zero I think this would be very hard to see.
not without reason, before he was famous for pump coins and their manipulations at that time they had almost touched the price of zero but remained strong because they were still quite loved because they could indeed be used in profitable exchanges.
right now they are in hype and pumps (although a lot of people are stuck here) but I can't even imagine them going to zero because that would be very hard to happen right now
As long as dogecoin and Shiba Inu have still demands from their community, their value won't certainly drop into zero. Even the fact that they have no real utility cases and is always dependent on hype, but some people have seen potentials in them so we can't force them to just stop investing because they are meme coins. In fact, these meme coins were profitable last year, but things may differ this year, but if they will be hyped again once the bearish season is over, then all i can say is that they are more than just meme coins that are worth investing.
2796  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is $30k the bottom for this dip? on: January 22, 2022, 11:18:44 PM
The entire cryptocurrency market is on a blood bath level most cryptocurrency witness a higher percentage of price drop which have turned so many analysts to speculate the next stop price before the bull run, if you have been flowing up with recent price actions it show Bitcoin losing almost 7% of it price falling back to 38k and have been struggling to maintain that price level up till now.
Will the 30k price benchmark be the next bottom line before the rise?
^ Possible it is.
But the fact is predicting is really hard at this moment, nobody knows where the market price is headed it could create a more narrow line down or it will have a fast boost growing up. But I still believe in BTC and I have faith in it that it will surge back in the market. Let's just wait furthermore when it will be a good time to invest while small-scale investors panic selling their coins because they were afraid to get a loss while the wise investors start investing right and full their bags. As I say, this current drop was given a chance to others to invest, and probably at the level of $30k is a bottom dip and the correction will be done this week.
I think it may happen or not, because its really hard to predict with such an unpredictable market.  It may even go down below $30k if bearish season will last longer. So this only means that the opportunity to fill our bags with potential coins will continue, and it won't stop unless the market starts to recover. But definitely, a lot are panicking today and are afraid to see the coins falling into dips, however we cannot do something about this but to wait patiently until the bearish season is over.
2797  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you have any favorite superstititions when trading crypto on: January 22, 2022, 07:44:23 PM
Lolz, that’s funny but yeah many of them are having some sort of superstition after reading the thread. Idk it may be more or less lucky charms. I mean if we went with the above calculation then everyone has different lucky charms. Not everyone is wearing their lucky charms everyday day so coin status could go rogue. Lolz.

Personally I don’t have anything like this. I’m all the time on the screens once I wake up early in the morning. I don’t even choose daily fashion, accessories etc. Just go with whatever comes in my hands.  Grin

Never I have heard this kind of superstitions even before I started trading and to be honest never I had practiced like this kind on my own, maybe this is one of the reason why I am not that lucky enough on my trading and investing journey lol. Yeah, it may sounds funny and weird but for other investors and traders this kind of beliefs work on them and I respect that. Guess what I am here because I am earning some tips from others who have their superstitions that they really believe gave them luck.
Believing from superstitions will not worsen the struggle so i think if you wish to imitate some of the shared tips here, then go on. But i suggest, never rely on it alone as you still have to do your part as a trader. As much as possible, never stops learning in crypto because being knowledgeable when it comes to crypto trading is always and edge. And treat your past experiences as your best teacher, and in that way you will never make the same mistakes again and will always find ways to improve your trading. With or without superstitions, a good trader will always be profitable if you follow all of these.
2798  Economy / Speculation / Re: Under $39k, what's next? on: January 22, 2022, 06:54:59 PM
In fact, if you say what's next from the movement of bitcoin, even everyone doesn't know because this kind of thing is very difficult to use as a reference.
what we can do maybe only speculate on the analysis technique that we do and even then it is not certain the truth.
but maybe something is certain here regardless of what will happen later, a decrease or increase of course in the end everything will return to normal even though we don't know when.
I think the market will become more dump because bitcoin will fall even deeper as its heading below $30k. Honestly, people are in a panic right now seeing bitcoin price is facing a terrible drop and with altcoins too since they are even more affected. The whole market is certainly in a bloodbath. But hey, this is not the end of crypto. This is part of the bearish cycle, and we all expect to drop their value. But eventually, everything will be back to normal again once the market is trap with positive news that will lift the prices of all coins that have chances to recover.
and yes, as you said, even now we are in a phase that is worrying because indeed the decline is continuing.
but I also agree by saying that this is not the end of crypto.
take it easy, enjoy the moment and continue to wait and hold on to the assets you have.
don't be too careless with a decline like this, selling assets is not the right thing especially when we are experiencing losses
The current price decline is always expected since we are in a bearish season and as long as it stays in the market, bitcoin and altcoins prices will drop more. Bitcoin is already at $34,527 so this may develop fear to all those bitcoin hodlers who's not used to the market. But if you know the market well and you understand well enough that bitcoin will always recover even from its deepest dip, then there's no need to fear, but let's be greedy instead so we can buy more bitcoin and established altcoins while the opportunity is around.
2799  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Gary Russell vs Mark Magsayo WBC Featherweight Title on: January 22, 2022, 02:27:35 PM
Three days ago it was @8.8 if you bet for Magsayo to win by knockout but now it is only 6.60, seems like bettors are going for that option as i also think that if Magsayo will win, it would be by KO.

Ring rust, speculation of an injury, not getting the weight at first try and lose of his father on his corner, seems to me that these are the triggering factor on why bettors are going for that option.



The odds are still decent though, wow, congrats in advance you risk on that high odds. That would make you celebrate nicely if you win at that high odds, I'm following on the odds, there's a chance he will win by KO as he also won by KO in his last fight.

Good luck on your bet, this fight will be tomorrow, I hope I can see free live streaming so I don't have to pay and just use the money for betting.  Smiley..... I'm sure most of us here are with Magsayo, so the higher the odds the better and we should not doubt his chances.
2800  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: January 22, 2022, 02:03:12 PM
Too tempting and this will be a hard decision for Coach Topex.

Too tempting indeed but i don't think that he would bite the offer as he would be away for his family for a long time. Filipinos are too attached to their families so i don't think that coach Topex will be coaching in Japan soon, maybe if he had no more job in the Philippines then i think that he go there to coach.

It's a good thing though that coaches had been noticed in Japan, maybe they want to experiment what works in their system, US or Philippine style of coaching.

What if he will decide, maybe his one season's salary in Japan would be equivalent to 5 seasons here in the Philippines.  if the PBA is okay, I guess he will take the opportunity and show the Filipino talent in Japan, not only players are given the opportunity but the coaches as well.
Japan league seems getting more interested to Pinoy players and even the coach, maybe they save a lot of money from us and on the other hand, Pinoy players are making a lot of money in Japan plus their great exposure. If money is all what matters here better to grab the opportunity in Japan and beside, they continue the season even on a situation like this so they can really enjoy playing there, staying away from your family is the downside of this one, really hard to decide though.

They don't save money from us, they see our potential. Players are signed as an import, so that means they are paid higher than a regular palyer. This is a big chance for the Filipino talents to explore a bigger opportunity in the basketball world, and I think the salary someone could earn from this league is satisfying enough if spent in the Philippines.
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