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2781  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Nuro: a revolutionary wallet modeled after traditional internet banking UIs on: August 24, 2014, 02:31:42 AM
Nice working wallet, fast and simple.
2782  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: August 24, 2014, 01:12:48 AM
the fact that hobopetes thread just says "over" concerns me more than 1000 of truthfuls stupid and shitty posts in this thread. hobopete whatsup?

Maybe he already found the answer and reached enlightenment and he have kept us all in the dark. I mean if posted information and looking for the "truth" why delete all your post and just leave the word 'over' ? Did something happened to him?
2783  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: August 23, 2014, 07:07:10 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtWRsprcf3o&list=UUAe9vivW1EO7FpHFQSxPIxg
2784  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: August 22, 2014, 11:59:42 AM
After many days,  uro goes under 100k.
I'm starting to think that it's over.

It was over before it started. How would you be able to prove that a shipment of Urea had anything to do with GES? Why don't you just ask your guru or Bohan?? If there's transparency as they claim there is, why don't they tell the community if the supposed shipment for Urea has anything to do with GES?


3)  MV MEGA STAR      INTEROCEAN   UREA              nil   71,148     nil   29/12
From Reuters:
a little out of date, but it confirms that mega star is an Interocean Group Ship, used by IPL for UREA.
Link here   
http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/12/27/port-mundra-idINL4N0A12G220121227

The fact that GES was able to release the port of origin before this information was available publicly indicates they were indeed involved in this transaction.

ship data here:
Port   Arrival (LT)   Departure (LT)   In Transit
IN MUNDRA (UTC+5.5)   2014-08-14 07:39:00   2014-08-18 16:39:00   
IN PIPAVAV (UTC+5.5)      2014-08-09 16:01:00   
IN PIPAVAV (UTC+5.5)   2014-08-04 10:31:00      
IR ASALUYEH (UTC+4.5)      2014-07-29 17:37:00   
IR ASALUYEH (UTC+4.5)   2014-07-19 14:25:00      
QA MESAIEED (UTC+3)      2014-07-09 12:07:00   

Link:
http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/9512202/vessel:MEGA_STAR


Good work.. I would like to give an update on which Management the Vessel is now under:

Stellar Ocean transport LLC

2785  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: August 22, 2014, 10:35:54 AM
After many days,  uro goes under 100k.
I'm starting to think that it's over.

See this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=742456.msg8479247#msg8479247

And the price of URO is stabilizing and we may soon see the Iran Video about Uro. It is at the lowest when things starts to go on moving.
2786  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: !!!!!List of Known FUDSTERS!!!!! on: August 20, 2014, 03:03:06 AM
is the witchhunt on again?

thats what hero members do...heroic trolling  Grin

Nice, its just now I have noticed that I have a Hero Membership Smiley

I was on a Sr, when I started this thread.
2787  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re:FUDDING on: August 19, 2014, 09:00:42 PM

Agreed that criticism in any thread should not be labeled as FUD. In a community controlled environment this could really help and in a way should be stimulated & seen as an opportunity to inform others.

But when btc users start opening there own moderated threads attacking coins or tech & delete any argument not matching there own view they are cleary FUD'ING in my book.

Kimmy


that didn't make sense lol

coin cloners use the self mod feature to abuse the community by removing any feedback and it back fires on them
because it make them look bad and just pisses people off.. censorship is not smart.
take URO for example..


FUD'ing rarely exists.. you all love throwing that term around as a way of attacking people.
same as calling a guy a Troll.
The words are very rarely used properly.
Opinion is not trolling or fudding sorry.

Fudding in BCT is on a daily basis, I do not know why you are not seeing this.

Trolling and Fudding are under "OPINIONS" without substantiated facts.
2788  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: August 18, 2014, 11:39:32 PM
Here ONE question to all the internet detectives

For now - Just forget about GES or Rivaa or any other company.

We start with only IPL (Indian Government Body).

Here is one ship Mega Star http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/9512202/vessel:MEGA_STAR/_:eadf3c1765fb2bf81175b7063305442f which carried Urea for IPL - confirmation here http://www.eepcindia.org/bulletin/b20140804/PORTS3116.pdf

Please take it as a challenge - Can you please find out :

1.Which Indian company/importer got this ship full of urea for IPL and
2.which exporter/company got this deal arranged for that Indian Importer from Iran. (don't worry about finding out which Iranian urea refinery it came from)


Once you have 2 very simple answers to my 2 very simple questions, please come back and share your detective work with me.

Looking forwards to hear from you soon.

This shouldn't take very long.
Notice noone cares for the price dosnt reflect the "news"..... its complete bullshit, ya as fucken if someone will sell urea at 60cents a metric ton....
dont worry but, this is a chance for you to sell your house and invest now!!


I suggest to OP to clean this thread and then Lock it for a while. Whenever there is some major announcement coming out, that will be the time to unlock and post and then relocked it, so in this way we can minimize the incessant trolling and child like bickering on this thread. Lets move the more fluid discussion and minor updates on the IRC channel.
Thanks.

That would be fascist....
Against what a community means.





You can call it what you want, but I think this is the only to way to clean up this thread for now. We can all discuss being a "community" on the IRC channel, which is way better and not just someone trying to converse here with someone with multiple personality.

And since this thread has  become a nest of  trolls who have  nothing better to do or contribute.
2789  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: August 18, 2014, 11:12:13 PM
I suggest to OP to clean this thread and then Lock it for a while. Whenever there is some major announcement coming out, that will be the time to unlock and post and then relocked it, so in this way we can minimize the incessant trolling and child like bickering on this thread. Lets move the more fluid discussion and minor updates on the IRC channel.
Thanks.
2790  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: !!!!!List of Known FUDSTERS!!!!! on: August 18, 2014, 10:53:02 AM
thanks for taking my comment under consideration Smiley
i just don't know why you quote me with such a wall of text i posted LOL

Just making it clear to what I am responding to Smiley
2791  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: August 18, 2014, 07:42:56 AM
IPL to release new Tender prices for urea in India, around 7th September


IPL has been always in Urea Trading with GES for so many years now.

See this link

http://greenearthsystems.com.au/indian-potash-limited-ges-commitment-to-supply-4-3million-mt-to-indias-hungry-urea-market/

2792  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Knowing is half the battle ! on: August 18, 2014, 06:03:06 AM
I have grown tired of hearing the term FUD.. like Troll thrown around for a year.
A soon as i started registering at sites and exchanges etc i heard it constantly and i had a hard time understanding what others think it is.
day one on Cryptsy's chat-box i kept seeing people crying to the mod's that there is too much trolling and FUD
and i demanded they were full of shit and had been there all along and i never seen it !

criticism is often mislabeled as FUD.

muddafudda barely says anything so how he has made the top of your list i have no idea..
and the other guys on your list don't even ring a bell to me so they can't be posting that much.

the only people crying FUD are bag holders threatened by criticism.
if people do not have anything to criticize then they stay quiet.
take for example i pre-mine on a coin.. with out it no Trolls could be FUD'ing your coin bashing it about a premine.
get it ?

And i see two key problems here with this..

1) People crying FUD are always "bag holders" scared of criticism thinking it will lower the value of the bags their holding.
if you have nothing to worry about the FUD will be deflected away and you will come out looking better after the FUD
and if you don't then your either bad at defending your coin OR there is a serious problem with it. (name calling or crying FUD is an automatic Lose situation)
I dealt with some FUD'ing on Jackpot coin for example and the guy had some valid points.. so i couldn't just cry FUD. (it would have been the wrong use of the term)

2) Fear Uncertainty Doubt (FUD) is an appropriate and rational response to a scene with an estimated 20k/30k users and 300,000+ dummy accounts here
and around 1,000 Altcoins in existence (most of them blatant clones)
CONTEXT !
When the context is nothing but pathological liars and scammers swirling around like a tornado trying to drain us all of our money (Bitcoin)
then yeah THERE SHOULD BE LOTS OF FUD !

It's simply the only correct way to handle all of this Altcoin scene stuff..

You guys making and defending coins SHOULD be on your heels defending your coins at all times..
because you do NOT deserve the befit of the doubt !
And i might think differently about that perspective on things *if we had some regulation.. but we don't !
Guys like Mark from Mt.Gox can walk away with 500,000 Bitcoins and send messages from Twitter not long after he "got hacked" talking about his "beach sunset".

What your doing with this topic is trying to silence and discredit people *ahead of time.
Over a difference of opinion.
Obvious scam coins are obvious and the rest, is well lets be honest here guys.. "opinion"
For example i think all coins with IPO's are a scam (IPO or similar in an unregulated lawless free market is not a legit and acceptable method of distribution)
Hence the argument and people crying FUD..
The problem is your list here is an attempt to discredit people opinions before they even have a chance to say them..
These so called FUD'sters are suppose to be written off and their opinions discarded and ignored.. that is silly nonsense.

Let me put it this way if you have a legit coin you want to support (bag hold) and it really is good and legit like you claim
then defending yourself from people spreading FUD (unfairly) will do nothing but make your coin look good in the end
and the fud'sters will take down some other coin that is actually bad..
hence eliminating the coin's competition and raising up your coin up over the other 999 coins. (making it look better than the others)
Get it ? You could be using FUD to your advantage !
Each incident of FUD is just one more opportunity for you to "set the record straight" so to speak.. like giving you a soap box to stand on. lol

And if the FUD is NOT fair then it will most likely fall under the category of simple Trolling and that is bannable !
FUD'ing to Troll on coins with unfair or unrealistic *obviously Troll like claims is in my opinion not fair and i agree these guys should get a ban. (and they do it's a rule here)
But if guys are taking the time to articulate their opinions and express a view point ? then that is not FUD.. it's called "opinion".


Some guy FUD'ing the coin i support (bag holding) came and started on our ANN topic and the response he got was childish name calling and guys crying FUD.
I spoke to him on the ANN topic in a fair way and admitted he had some valid points (and he really did) and he left.. never came back since.
Do you guys get it yet ?

Thank you for your quite lengthy response on my thread, this is quite proven to be informative Smiley
And I agree to most of your opinions, and I respect them.

I post the names by the way in sequential as they are being reported and I do not just put them there based on my own opinions.
2793  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] List of Known FUDSTERS! on: August 18, 2014, 12:59:57 AM
suchnekky  -  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=326437

See here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=729345.msg8331799#msg8331799
then he takes it back here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=729345.msg8333247#msg8333247
if you continue to read from this point you will see how he just starts FUDing left and right,

he really started up again at this point: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=729345.msg8334040#msg8334040   and    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=729345.msg8334085#msg8334085

This is where he gets purely insane making up IRC chats: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=729345.msg8334775#msg8334775

of course as fate would have it the coin did turn out a scam, but this was waaaay before that was done, he just popped back up on the radar to start all this after not posting
and if you research through his posts he likes to FUD alot.

apparently he started on apex coin recently too https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=686403.msg8394058#msg8394058

thanks for your detailed report.
2794  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: List of Known FUDSTERS! on: August 17, 2014, 11:48:33 PM
I don't think this thread belongs in the Altcoin Announcements.  Wink

Thanks for your suggestion. I will monitor and make the adjustment as the need arises.
2795  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: List of Known FUDSTERS! on: August 17, 2014, 11:47:45 PM
This is one old troll:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=116727
Just check his posts, he jumps from coin to coin to spread FUD about them

Thank you. Pls Provide references to substantiate the report.

LOL.  Check in on any scamcoin, like the one this poster invested in.  I'll be there, poking at the scam.


Do both of you referring to DarkFOxcoin?
2796  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: List of Known FUDSTERS! on: August 17, 2014, 11:34:52 PM
This is one old troll:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=116727
Just check his posts, he jumps from coin to coin to spread FUD about them

Thank you. Pls Provide references to substantiate the report.
2797  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: List of Known FUDSTERS! on: August 17, 2014, 11:34:24 PM
If you cannot properly disseminate information, then you deserve to lose money.  This "list" will not be helpful to anyone, because FUDsters sometimes do make very valid points at times.


/thread

I would go one step further - 99% of the people on this very forum are fudsters in one way or another. The moment you speak negatively about a coin that has ZERO issues you are fudding. Its simple as that.



This topic just screams of someone still holding a big bag of "insert" coin and lost the value due to FUD - nothing more nothing less move along folks.



What I am trying to point out here are "KNOWN" FUDSTERS who have almost incessant acts of fudding,  much like one has "tourette syndrome" on some list of "coins".

No I agree with you, I dont know how old you are but in the past ANY black lists are ALWAYS a bad idea. Always.   Even if the intention is good.  I am just saying after a while in this world and trollboxes you know full well who is full of it and not, who is a day trader and who isnt.  You dont need a list because - I have like 10 accounts just on this forum alone. You know.

- I consider this list a Graylist.

One day, when the real people with money starting coming in here  and outnumbering the turds - once all the shit has been cleaned out all these kids with their pocket change will go.  And thats where all the bs,scam,fud is coming from - someone loses money in a dip - start a fud campaign on the coin taking the volume. Much like the dark dev having a cry on twiter about XC and the shitstorm it caused. - wasnt needed - pure jealousy.

- That Day has already begun. It is sad that certain  good coins are being Fudded like hell, and a lot of people are loosing a lot money due to this, its a chain reaction and mostly the newbs are the easy target that DO the triggering which causes an Avalanche and affects most of the traders.
and by doing this list, in a way it can be reduced and as you say to help curbed it.


See it recognize it, profit - that is how I make most of my cash these days. Playing the fudsters against each other. In the real world stock has to have more real assets/has to work etc. In this world no one cares about the coins innovation anymore, everyone cries at a premine - everyone cries at short pow - only kids do because they have an addhd attention span.

- People are starting to learn, and we can earn and trade better by doing a  smarter and better way of doing things.

My example, I will go into other coin threads to fudd them WHEN they come into threads on coins I am a supporter of JUST TO FUD. Ill admit I have curbed this shit lately as I am not 12.  - There you go, Its a START! Smiley

Fair enough then, if you must have a list chuck this name on the top - timerland

Thank you. Pls Provide references to substantiate the report.
2798  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: August 17, 2014, 05:12:59 AM
I'm working on it, here's the link.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=742456.0

I've been searching for weeks, but some of my queries were wrong, so I'm still working as I post results.

My thread is a dictatorship, there is no right of free speech, I reserve the right to ERASE the assholes.

But I will be fair.

I also will tell you that I do not have the support of Bohan or Nilesh in this thread.
It is entirely on my own.
If it ends up being good for them, oh well. If it proves bad, so be it.
Either way, we'll put the fud to bed and find out who is a villain or a hero.


Has the Cargo Vessel for Urea that was bought with URO been confirmed yet?
2799  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: List of Known FUDSTERS! on: August 17, 2014, 03:38:00 AM
If you cannot properly disseminate information, then you deserve to lose money.  This "list" will not be helpful to anyone, because FUDsters sometimes do make very valid points at times.


/thread

I would go one step further - 99% of the people on this very forum are fudsters in one way or another. The moment you speak negatively about a coin that has ZERO issues you are fudding. Its simple as that.



This topic just screams of someone still holding a big bag of "insert" coin and lost the value due to FUD - nothing more nothing less move along folks.



What I am trying to point out here are "KNOWN" FUDSTERS who have almost incessant acts of fudding,  much like one has "tourette syndrome" on some list of "coins".

No I agree with you, I dont know how old you are but in the past ANY black lists are ALWAYS a bad idea. Always.   Even if the intention is good.  I am just saying after a while in this world and trollboxes you know full well who is full of it and not, who is a day trader and who isnt.  You dont need a list because - I have like 10 accounts just on this forum alone. You know.

- I consider this list a Graylist.

One day, when the real people with money starting coming in here  and outnumbering the turds - once all the shit has been cleaned out all these kids with their pocket change will go.  And thats where all the bs,scam,fud is coming from - someone loses money in a dip - start a fud campaign on the coin taking the volume. Much like the dark dev having a cry on twiter about XC and the shitstorm it caused. - wasnt needed - pure jealousy.

- That Day has already begun. It is sad that certain  good coins are being Fudded like hell, and a lot of people are loosing a lot money due to this, its a chain reaction and mostly the newbs are the easy target that DO the triggering which causes an Avalanche and affects most of the traders.
and by doing this list, in a way it can be reduced and as you say to help curbed it.


See it recognize it, profit - that is how I make most of my cash these days. Playing the fudsters against each other. In the real world stock has to have more real assets/has to work etc. In this world no one cares about the coins innovation anymore, everyone cries at a premine - everyone cries at short pow - only kids do because they have an addhd attention span.

- People are starting to learn, and we can earn and trade better by doing a  smarter and better way of doing things.

My example, I will go into other coin threads to fudd them WHEN they come into threads on coins I am a supporter of JUST TO FUD. Ill admit I have curbed this shit lately as I am not 12.  - There you go, Its a START! Smiley
2800  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: August 17, 2014, 03:26:16 AM
Truthful, nothing personal man but I quite literally hate you. I mean literally.

I know hate is not healthy, but I literally hate you with all my heart. Please get the f#ck out of this thread and get a f#cking life.

I really think at this point you are just getting a kick out of stressing us out, I really do. You just post the same nonsense over and over and over week after week, month after month like some kind of creepy loser kid with nothing else to do.

I mean SERIOUSLY man....what the hell is your problem?? Buy URO if you believe in it, and if you don't believe in it, then buy some other altcoin and move on with your life! I mean what the hell is wrong with you as a person? I'm totally serious.

And this has gone on for MONTHS now.

It's just sickening.


this thread is depressing
Are my doubts for this coin coming true?
Think I'm gonna dump some URO

Better HOLD, unless if your dire need of quick bucks.. Good news will be probably coming next week. Remember this is weekend and altcoins are behaving normally likes this.
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