the world's first daico? does it mean we can refund if we are not satisfaied with this project without any reason? or we can get refund if the team does not deliver it as the roadmap?
What mean by DAICO, I have heard that name a few month ago from the founder of etherium, according to your description, that way is better way for investors since there will be less risky, I will keep a close look at this project, seems to be a very hot project. It is a new form of fundraising similar to standard ICO but with much more control in the hands of the investors. They can vote on a funds release schedule and make decisions if the team requires more funds in between two milestones. |
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BE AWARE: they ban in their Telegram chat for uncomfortable questions. It is my only original message I've got instant ban for: Hey guys I have a few questions about your project:
1. In your documents it is mentioned that the designation of the property is vegetables storage. Do you have any permission from the officials to do mining there?
2. We all know how sometimes the business in post Soviet countries is made… What is your protection against government, police, guys in masks, another rich Kazakh individuals just coming at your place and arrest/raid the bunker and get all the equipment out?
Banning for questions in the chat that was created for this purpose is a red flag for me. Even if it's not a scam, it is at least showing their relation to investors and that they are hiding potential risks from people, who don't know the local specificity of business and Russian/Kazakh language to understand the docs. Honestly these questions are messed up to say the least. Question 1) implies you think their plans might be illegal and they are stupid enough, not to know that it is illegal. Question 2) Implies that Kazakhstan is so goddamn corrupt, that you need the mafia or some other private militia to protect you. Now do you really see nothing wrong with these questions? There is nothing wrong with first question. It is clearly stated in their document that the "purpose of the land is the service of vegetables storage". If you want to do something else, you have to make an official claim to the government that you want to make something else on this land and want to change its purpose, and it is costly and time consuming, often ending up with rejection. They are not stupid enough, but they are "entrepreneurial" enough to close their eyes to this and don't inform their investors. But will the "goddamn corrupted government" close its eyes to this misuse of the land when the farm starts generating its first incomes? I don't think so. Apparently you really aren't capable of understanding how insulting these questions are. The questions are absolutely legit. In particular the second one as there is a lot of money involved. We hear more and more that people get blackmailed with a gun at their heads to hand out private keys. If there is a multi million dollar mining operation running in a place that is easily accessible or at least not heavily defended, what do you think could happen? Nothing? |
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This coin is maybe the worst thing I've seen outside of outright ponzi scams like bitconnect. Ask yourself the following questions and see if you can come up with a good answer: What is the point of the current mineable blockchain?It isn't there to be used. No one transacts business on the BCL chain. It is intended to be ended in June. So with all of that said, what exactly is the point? Why did the Bitcoin Latina Foundation have all of its assets drained and transferred to John Gotts personal account?This is maybe the most important point. When the original BCL was sold to investors for 70 BTS per, the proceeds went to an account for Bitcoin Latina Trust. At some point all of the BTS and BCL that was in that account was transferred to John Gotts personal account. Which he then used to cash out via Blocktrades and Binance as well as to buy the BCL in a desperate attempt to push the price up. He bought it all the way up to 20 BTS. The market has since dropped back to 3 BTS. He claims this represents his personal funds, but there is no explanation as to why the Trust would just send all those funds to John. Why did BCL distribute 200 million tokens to their staff already?Even at current prices that is almost $100 mill USD for 3 months of work. 3 months that has produced no useable technology and no visible latin american community. Why are all the political "advisors" in the announcement message anti-immigrant build-a-wall republicans? I mean... seriously? You think the people of latin america are going to rally around a bunch of people that want to kick their relatives out of the U.S.  These are the people John Gotts has worked for and supported in the past. I doubt his views differ from theirs much at all. Why is John Gotts giving 2 million BCL to Jared Rice from Arisebank?Arise bank was shutdown by the SEC. BCL claims to want to be the "first" (they're not) SEC compliant crypto. Does anyone believe that the SEC is going to support a coin that is literally funding the defense of someone they are prosecuting? Where is the transparency?John Gotts promised that the issuance of the 1 billion tokens they control would be completely transparent. He said there would be a spreadsheet detailing who got what and what work they did for those coins. As he tries to sell people coins for $17 a piece and people send him 100's of thousands of dollars. He is giving away 100's of thousands of BCL to people like his cousin, Jared Rice and Crypto Connie for minimal to no effort at all. Why have some large early investors gotten 5x bonuses on their coins while small early investors have gotten nothing?Some of the biggest investors at 70 BTS have received up to 5x their holds as a bonus from Gotts. He has done this secretly (though the blockchain knows all), and has not offered to do this for the many small investors who have been just as damaged by the price falling through the floor from the initial 70 BTS price to 3 BTS This is really just the tip of the iceberg. There is so much more that is wrong with this coin and I encourage anyone that is thinking of investing to do a ton of research before putting any of their hard earned money into it. Or better yet, do yourself a favor and just stay far far away from this one. This is well said. I find it sad that they sent out a message on their telegram that any supporters come try to dilute the truth that people are spreading here on BCT. The simple fact is something's not right with this project however there are some people that are too much of a sheep to see the wolf staring them in the face.  Their telegram is run in a manner in which anyone exhibiting speculation or hesitance is immediately banned. Some may be justified for being utterly rude, but the majority are not. I was told a sob story by a miner who invested 100 thousand Euro into mining hardware and couldn't pay back the debt, yet he remains loyal to this shitcoin. To those guys, we warned you, but you didn't listen. Cheers folks! We as a community could need such thorough analyses much more often to protect people from being scammed. Well done! |
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I'm interested and the developer can answer. Can I get a reward in fiat or will the reward only be in the crypt for my photos?
For sure mate you will be rewarded with thier tokens since you will be submitting your own photosvon thier website. The reward will only be in the tokens of this site. Just think logically, why would they create a token if they could pay the fiat? I think everything is clear here. Yes you will get payment into their tokens but if you want your fiat currency then you can sell their tokens on any one of exchange on which it will listed.then you can easily convert it into your fiat currency.so keep support the project and share it as more as possible. Selfllery will be soon get listed on some good exchanges i guess and at that time you can really easily convert your tokens into eth/btc or direct your fiat currency. It will be great for all bounty participators too i guess. This project is actually great and will surely be listed and approved by several good exchanges. I am waiting for the day when i can really see the tokens of this project on some major exchanges. That day would be the most profitable day in the life of selfllery i guess. Yeah, we need to support this great project that involves our nice and develop technology. Also, by having this project probably many will support users as well as investors and to have more funds. I hope more and more person will joining at Selfllery project. So what kind of people will pay attention at here? Supporters, Investors, Photographers, Streamers? It could be literally everyone. Instagram is a very successful platform but without a comparable incentive structure. |
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Guys lets be honnest what ever he post we wont be happy with the answer as long as there was masternode auction because that put the coin in the same shitcoins basket  I am only here because i was hopping that this wont be just one in line of shitcoins but it seems it was for nothing.... I find it very suspicious if the dev denies to provide very basic information about the coin, but that's up to him. |
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How are you going to make sure that the token can under no circumstances lose any value and at the same time guarantee the upside potential?
GOOD question im goona screen shot it I cannot answer it at the moment its to soon to answer it (secrets of the project) I'll give some insight later regarding how that can happen But to answer its to eliminate factors that can bring the Value down and to compel money flow from the outside in order to increase it. I can't say more. Can you imagine that this answer doesn't satisfy any potential investor who might be likely to have the same question? |
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SELFLLERY is really great project. The pictures of this photo will create their interest. By using this platform, users can earn rewards through their shared photos and we are somehow making fun and earning some profit at the same time because it is great.
Selfllery is not being every once choice as we can simply use it and make money there was loads of supporters for selfllery now as the concept is unique with an excellent road map it is being the better choice for all the investors. Exactly, a unique project that can easily to understand especially those people whoe are love to take pictures. Hopefully they will able to provide some attractive featutes which can be like by users as well as probable investors on this project. I do not see anything particularly unique in this project. Professional photographers have their work, but on this platform I think they can get extra money amateurs. Agree with you mate. Professional photographers may take this platform if they want to have a passive income aside from the income they get from their actual job. But I guess the people who can gain greater income from this are not photographers but people who have huge influence. Not sure if it fits correctly into the discussion but if you look at instagram, the amount of professional fotos on that platform is astonishing. Isn't SELFLLERY just incentivizing people to share great, interesting and professional content on their platform in exchange for rewards? |
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Thanks, When I asked about volatility I meat the price, as example if I invest in a AI project when the price of Kepler token was 4$ and the price after that go up to like $40, are my investments converted to USD the moment I invested? or I will benefit of the price.
The strength of your investment in this project is measured on how many KEP tokens you have. In your example, you initially have kep token at a beginning value of 4$ each so if you have 1,000,000 kep tokens that value is 4M$ and when the price went up to 40$ each you're 4M $ is now 40M $. It is peg like that. If you sell them that is 40M USD in cold cash. We will benefit of price changing, it will be great when price is up and I think it wil go up since KEP tokens will be secured by land. However in case the price go down that means I will be in loss even if the AI project that I invested in, make profit. Yes, you are right the value of KEP token can go up and down but when it goes down it will not go beyond the initial 1.25$ its peg, and it will never go below the value of its physical assets which is worth at least 250M USD. It may go down below that but after some correction, it will level up in 1.25$. Where did somebody say that the KEP token is pegged to $1.25? Is that written in the whitepaper (haven't read it in full)? It is in our Whitepaper. KEP tokens are peg at 1.25$ each. How do you achieve that peg? When KEP tokens get listed on exchanges are you going to put up buy orders at $1.25 for all tokens in circulation? It's actually a simple economics. You buy your KEP Token at 1.25$ will you sell it for .50 cents? So it is quite right to assume that when we hit the exchanges initial price will be 1.25$ or somewhere in that region. It may fall a bit lower because dumpers will dump but when KEP tokens are out of the weak hands the following correction will have it at 1.25$ or near that region. We will have a periodic buyback that will push the KEP token price up, plus every milestone that the company will hit will push the price of the token even higher. This is about as weak an answer as you could have provided. Should I tell you about some projects that are currently trading under ICO price? None of them claims to have a peg and if they did they would have been destroyed by the public. A peg is a clearly defined financial mechanism to ensure that the price of an asset does not deviate from the respective underlying. This is not given here. You have no underlying. You just got the freely fluctuating price of your token. If I were you I would correct that claim of having a peg at $1.25. This is just advice from me, you can of course stick to your marketing gag. Alright then, let's forget about the word PEG. Let's just say we want our token to sell @ 1.25$ each. We will do everything with in our power to keep the selling price of KEP token at least @ 1.25$ each. I respect your upright honesty in that you are wiling to correct a false claim. And while I do like the whole concept behind your project, I kindly ask you to get the facts right because everything else will backfire at you much harder than you would expect. Just be honest, and that alone will make you much better then most other projects (which is sad...). |
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Thanks, When I asked about volatility I meat the price, as example if I invest in a AI project when the price of Kepler token was 4$ and the price after that go up to like $40, are my investments converted to USD the moment I invested? or I will benefit of the price.
The strength of your investment in this project is measured on how many KEP tokens you have. In your example, you initially have kep token at a beginning value of 4$ each so if you have 1,000,000 kep tokens that value is 4M$ and when the price went up to 40$ each you're 4M $ is now 40M $. It is peg like that. If you sell them that is 40M USD in cold cash. We will benefit of price changing, it will be great when price is up and I think it wil go up since KEP tokens will be secured by land. However in case the price go down that means I will be in loss even if the AI project that I invested in, make profit. Yes, you are right the value of KEP token can go up and down but when it goes down it will not go beyond the initial 1.25$ its peg, and it will never go below the value of its physical assets which is worth at least 250M USD. It may go down below that but after some correction, it will level up in 1.25$. Where did somebody say that the KEP token is pegged to $1.25? Is that written in the whitepaper (haven't read it in full)? It is in our Whitepaper. KEP tokens are peg at 1.25$ each. How do you achieve that peg? When KEP tokens get listed on exchanges are you going to put up buy orders at $1.25 for all tokens in circulation? It's actually a simple economics. You buy your KEP Token at 1.25$ will you sell it for .50 cents? So it is quite right to assume that when we hit the exchanges initial price will be 1.25$ or somewhere in that region. It may fall a bit lower because dumpers will dump but when KEP tokens are out of the weak hands the following correction will have it at 1.25$ or near that region. We will have a periodic buyback that will push the KEP token price up, plus every milestone that the company will hit will push the price of the token even higher. This is about as weak an answer as you could have provided. Should I tell you about some projects that are currently trading under ICO price? None of them claims to have a peg and if they did they would have been destroyed by the public. A peg is a clearly defined financial mechanism to ensure that the price of an asset does not deviate from the respective underlying. This is not given here. You have no underlying. You just got the freely fluctuating price of your token. If I were you I would correct that claim of having a peg at $1.25. This is just advice from me, you can of course stick to your marketing gag. |
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I have got something interesting from the developer of team on their social media. Yesterday SELFLLERY’s team has participated in the first Blockchain & Bitcoin conference in Turkey, Istanbul. They have presented their social platform to investors, traders, financiers, blockchain developers, as well as management of companies interested in business modernization. https://t.co/awh4cEE8xWI am sure that the event was very interesting and useful for the participants. Thanks to the active work of the team, yesterday even more people could learn about Selfllery, and some of them will certainly want to participate in TGE! Keep it up, guys! I think yes, because however it is real project and can be applied by community in the future, all of us can try their service before the coins can be used on there, we can make registering on here https://selfllery.com and to be the community of selfllery. This project will be sucessfull because they have community that use their service and it is unique project, i never see before something like this. Totally agree with you! I have not yet seen projects of such a plan, which already had and fairly high-quality version of the application already ready for the pre-release. Success is inevitable.) I hope the market recognizes that and rewards them for coming with more than just a white paper. Well... I don't care about the market because it can be manipulated by investors with large of money, more than it selfllery has good community to addopt the coins, i think it is more important than just pump and dump on the coin, the community will makes the coin survive for long time although the price is cheap, because of the community bitcoin can be survive until right now. When I say that I wish for the market to recognize SELFRLLERY's work, I am in no way saying that I want the coin to be pumped and dumped. Instead I am referring to higher adoption of this project compared to the ones without any MVP. |
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I think it creates doubts about the abilities of the team behind the project by using name of Bitcoin. Anything which use that name really doesn't look good in sense of lack of vision and confidence in their project. It could look more good being introduced with original clear name and idea juts my thoughts on this.
This is on point and check my post above. It raises the question why you wouldn't just take an established coin like Bitcoin and provide educational material on that or adjust the language in the wallet. Much easier than maintain your own currency, but it wouldn't make you any money. |
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How are you going to make sure that the token can under no circumstances lose any value and at the same time guarantee the upside potential?
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Today I saw you are even running advertisements on Youtube  Out of curiosity, how much are those advertising videos? I mean how much does Youtube charge you? Hello! We spend on youtube not so much, less than 0.01$ CPC Oh I thought that those advertisement wouldn't be that cheap, but the public exposure you get from that is actually worth the money. Our marketers are brilliant )))) I am leading them and they are doing their best! Does it have to do with your marketers or are those the standard rates that Youtube asks you to pay? I don't really think that Youtube has any incentive to provide you with special deals. Not saying your project isn't good, Youtube is just too big. I saw analytics and conversions from youtube, and to honour of our marketer Youtube delivered us around 1,700,000 contributions That's an impressive number and of course the reach you have with Youtube is huge. More and more fundraisers are going that route these days. Now it is more than 4 000 000 $ invested due to ads on youtube I would say that your advertising strategy via Youtube paid off pretty well then! I didn't expect these videos to be that successful in attracting so much money. |
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What do you means by listing? This project has not finished its ICO, it is just listed on this ICO website for more investors, it is not an exchange, right? BTW, any latest news about the incoming exchanges? Dude that is not an exchange and you could have known that by watching at the name of the website alone. It's a rating agency for ICO projects. |
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Thanks, When I asked about volatility I meat the price, as example if I invest in a AI project when the price of Kepler token was 4$ and the price after that go up to like $40, are my investments converted to USD the moment I invested? or I will benefit of the price.
The strength of your investment in this project is measured on how many KEP tokens you have. In your example, you initially have kep token at a beginning value of 4$ each so if you have 1,000,000 kep tokens that value is 4M$ and when the price went up to 40$ each you're 4M $ is now 40M $. It is peg like that. If you sell them that is 40M USD in cold cash. We will benefit of price changing, it will be great when price is up and I think it wil go up since KEP tokens will be secured by land. However in case the price go down that means I will be in loss even if the AI project that I invested in, make profit. Yes, you are right the value of KEP token can go up and down but when it goes down it will not go beyond the initial 1.25$ its peg, and it will never go below the value of its physical assets which is worth at least 250M USD. It may go down below that but after some correction, it will level up in 1.25$. Where did somebody say that the KEP token is pegged to $1.25? Is that written in the whitepaper (haven't read it in full)? It is in our Whitepaper. KEP tokens are peg at 1.25$ each. How do you achieve that peg? When KEP tokens get listed on exchanges are you going to put up buy orders at $1.25 for all tokens in circulation? |
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I saw a lot of requests here and on Reddit for private sell/buy of GRFTs. As We can see from official answer of DEVs, exchange is not the main priority at this moment.
Is there any simple Escrow (or another trustful place), where the Buyers can meet Sellers, maybe some decentralized small exchange or system for private sale?
I think that GRAFT should at least be listed on some minor exchange so that we have a chance to engage in trading. Having to rely on a forum escrow is a bit cumbersome all the time. Working on it! I think it is a scam too. Have been alive since last August and still no exchange. Also anytime someone says something bad or wants to trade on telegram channel they are booted right away. And not mention that their mobile wallet does not even have a way of sending coins. So this is a coin that you can't buy, sell, send or receive with anyone else other than the developer. #SCAM Mainnet launched on 18th January not on August, graft is also minable, so you don't have to buy from anyone and sending grafts over cli wallet very easy. Even I'm not a linux user, I easly sent my coins to another user's wallet when I sold. If you need help on this, check https://www.graft.network/2018/02/20/graft-transactions-transfer-grft-wallets/ While that is correct what you say it still hinders adoption a lot. Almost nobody likes to deal with the hassle that is currently existent and so most will skip on this one and pick another one. |
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I have got something interesting from the developer of team on their social media. Yesterday SELFLLERY’s team has participated in the first Blockchain & Bitcoin conference in Turkey, Istanbul. They have presented their social platform to investors, traders, financiers, blockchain developers, as well as management of companies interested in business modernization. https://t.co/awh4cEE8xWI am sure that the event was very interesting and useful for the participants. Thanks to the active work of the team, yesterday even more people could learn about Selfllery, and some of them will certainly want to participate in TGE! Keep it up, guys! I think yes, because however it is real project and can be applied by community in the future, all of us can try their service before the coins can be used on there, we can make registering on here https://selfllery.com and to be the community of selfllery. This project will be sucessfull because they have community that use their service and it is unique project, i never see before something like this. Totally agree with you! I have not yet seen projects of such a plan, which already had and fairly high-quality version of the application already ready for the pre-release. Success is inevitable.) I hope the market recognizes that and rewards them for coming with more than just a white paper. |
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Interesting, there are quite a few cryptos coming out targetting the Latino market. I assume this is too or why have it in the name.
How are you planning on adoption? All the plans I've seen so far from your competitors are severely lacking. Some have an obvious lack of market fit too. Why is yours different?
What does it even mean to label a decentralized cryptocurrency with limited geographic area? Like, how would you prevent others from using it or why would you even want that? There's nothing to stop the world from using it but Latino expats sending money home to the family might very well prefer the familiarity of language and cutting out the middleman (Western Union) to get a cheaper deal. That a coin is in their language with a web design look and feel that speaks to their culture would certainly make it easier for the expat to help get their family member crypto savvy. We're still in early adoption phase, especially in SA. Ok but couldn't you have just taken an established coin and adjust the language in that wallet and provide instructions? |
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Interesting, there are quite a few cryptos coming out targetting the Latino market. I assume this is too or why have it in the name.
How are you planning on adoption? All the plans I've seen so far from your competitors are severely lacking. Some have an obvious lack of market fit too. Why is yours different?
What does it even mean to label a decentralized cryptocurrency with limited geographic area? Like, how would you prevent others from using it or why would you even want that? |
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Guys, before the start of the TGE phase of the project Selfllery there are only 4 days, are all ready for this event? I personally has excited, because I'm very worried about the success of the project!
Why are you suddenly very worried about the success of the TGE? They have done a lot of good work and if enough people recognized it the sale should go well. |
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