There were loads of items on there but they all expired. If you add a new one to the block chain it should show up there.
This is great news! If you don't mind my asking, How did you get the pictures to be included on the listing? I'm just parsing out any url with a image extension and then displaying it in a slideshow. Nothing fancy, but it shows how it could be used. I have talked to danosphere about the potential of adding different fields to the marketplace items, as they need some TLC to be able to compete with existing ecommerce platforms. |
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There were loads of items on there but they all expired. If you add a new one to the block chain it should show up there.
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Great work! This is like another version of the Blockmarket the team is working on- this is exactly the type of stuff we have been hoping devs would catch on and start building stuff with- great job @sphericon!
We'll have a news blog post up tonight, meant to post yesterday but got tied up in other higher priority SYS issues! The 0.1.5 client is the official wallet and we'll have a blog post up tonight with that and other news! Stay tuned!
Thanks! I know it's a bit rough around the edges, but it is a start. Can't wait to hear the news you're putting out tonight. |
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I want to sell some stuff in xchange of syscoin but dont know how to sign up and use the site.  kencoles, it's fairly easy to sell stuff on the site. You just need to enter some commands into your syscoin wallet on your machine. Once the item has been accepted into the blockchain, it's just a matter of a few minutes until the market will sync up with it and it will show up there. I'm thinking of throwing together a small form which will generate the code required so you just paste it into your console to list a product. The current guide for listing is here: http://syscoin.org/board/discussion/12/guide-listing-selling-buying-on-the-syscoin-marketplaceNOTE: You aren't selling stuff "on this site," per se. You are selling something on the syscoin blockchain, and this site is simply one way to view the items, albeit in a more visual fashion than the console. |
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I've created a proof-of-concept of a 'twitter on the blockchain' utilizing the SysCoin Blockchain. For it's not going down in the discussions here, I created a new thread for that: SYYK - Messaging on the blockchainWow. That is pretty slick. I will pm you an advert "systweet" as soon as I get http://syscoin.market up and running with a web store. |
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So for all who say there is no buy support and this coin is dead, please exit your positions into my 1m buy wall on cryptsy. Thx.
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hmm, perhaps it would be better to have the wallet query a syscoin-sponsored site that then queries another API so that we have control of the currency conversion. could fallback to just using a single currency (usd, euro) in case of stale data...
Website could just use cron to poll updates to the client read only conversion chart about every 15 minutes or so. This would probably be a better model for security, and if the current syscoin website is cloud based then replication would be a snap. You guys are so close to what we have been working on creating as a stop-gap solution to this issue until we can integrate a daemon-level solution on top of the new Assets feature- this is excellent discussion. Right now as a solution to this we're creating what I call a two-way price peg (aka: SysPricePeg lets say, I know maybe not the coolest name). What this does is has several configurable options: - which exchanges to pull exchange rate from (BTC/SYS), avg price across them - which exchanges to pull exchange rate from (BTC/FIAT) OR BTC/ALTCOIN if the merchant wants to price their offer in FIAT or altcoin, avg price across them - update interval (default 10min) - interval at which the cron runs to poll for exchange data - update threshold (default 3%) - threshold at which to automatically issue an offerupdate to update the offer's SYS price ONLY if the price has changed outside the threshold Syscoin offers are stored on the blockchain currently, not in any separate p2p database as the blockchain provides for cryptographic proof/validation of service operations where a local database could be much more subject to attacks or hacks but I can see ways to secure this- but still blockchain is best imo. So what a vendor would do currently is run SysPricePeg in parallel with Blockmarket (as a front end for buyers). SysPricePeg would store the data locally regarding which ONLY which offer guid should be pegged to what price/currency but the setup there is simple; eventually this data will be integrated into the offer data design (something like currencyType and currencyPrice as new data fields). The above is something we're already almost done with and will be releasing soon as we can- these recent roadbumps have slowed down the train but certainly not stopped it. I need to update the damn roadmap on the website so people have a better idea of the new timelines- its on my todo list. The fact that all these "Darknetmarkets" got taken down today may be a great way for us to demonstrate how SYS decentralized markets can avoid this kind of centralized takedown. We don't support illegal activities of course but this [the risks of centralized markets/data] is one relevant and applicable use case towards which Syscoin could be leveraged quite heavily and effectively. Development Update!!We will be promoting Syscoin 0.1.5 RC3 to "production release" this Saturday 11/8 the branch will be merged to master and we will issue new binaries. Pool operators please plan on updating. This information will be sent to the mailing list soon  The update threshold seems like a good idea. I would probably tweak the default percent lower, as 3 percent is kind of a large amount for a shop to lose. Sometimes profit margins aren't even that high! Also due to the size of the current syscoin market, one could manipulate the price to get a larger-ticket item for less Fiat. Just something to consider. As I was building out the Web front end for the marketplace, a couple of things stood out to me that we need to consider or include. - There is a strong need for a multidimensional array for the storage of image path and alt/title text.
- A video field (perhaps just a YouTube link) that could be easily manipulated by a dev.
- I see that there is a quantity field; Quantity discounts are often used by bigger merchants, and if we want this to be seriously adopted by real stores we need to provide that option as well.
- I don't recall if there was a shipping cost field, but a multiple select for that would be good. Or if not a field in the client, perhaps it could be done via post code in the web client (next day, normal, etc.).
That's it for now, but I will keep thinking on this. For mass adoption it needs the features expect-let's give them what they want. Thanks for posting the update, danosphere. It always makes us feel better hearing about something other than he who shall not be named. |
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hmm, perhaps it would be better to have the wallet query a syscoin-sponsored site that then queries another API so that we have control of the currency conversion. could fallback to just using a single currency (usd, euro) in case of stale data...
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Additional setting in the client that will determine users native currency, UserA want to sell something at market and they list it as their expected paper currency, UserB opens client in different nation with different currency setting, client lists the price in UserB's native currency. Single website could host updated exchange rates and client could work from them. Items in the market are not listed in the blockchain, they are in a separate database hosted locally but also updated via P2P. This would be an easy method to integrate international sales and I personally think it would be attractive to the SYS community and beyond.
This is a pretty interesting concept. Though, in the moment the offers are not hosted on the blockchain, but need to be updated via p2p, why not directly have them on the chain where you have the payment process etc directly with it? It sounds like a bloating second chain besides the standard blockchain (at first glance, prob gotta re-think aboput this in the morning). In general it is hard to have all currencies included in a hardcoded way into a wallet. Remember it is a load of maintenance to check the availability of the pages, data APIs and so on, and this in addition to all the other development. We thought about it. It is basically "only" some API calls and basic calculations. But the maintenance is a killer at the moment - for us. We encourage projects like the actual USD converter to be enhanced and built upon by the community and interested vendors. Or someone picks this idea up and creates a page providing all this via API everyone could use.. many possible ways, but for us, besides the development and legal actions, not feasible _right now_. I think the idea is a good one to offer different currencies, but it would be easier for the marketplace app (be it new js/html wallet, external website, etc) to simply query an external website that would convert the currency. In fact I don't think it would even need to be a syscoin-sponsored site; there are probably a ton of APIs already available for currency conversion... |
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I think the price is falling because the developement is paused atm... I personally cant wait for UI implemented features. I think we cant get rid of trolls and scams, we can only fight them and avoid them...
Development hasn't paused it's just slowed down a little which of course a lot will agree is acceptable, this weekend we'll be pushing RC3 into the main production wallet and there will be some promotional work around that, we'll also bring you up to speed with the development of the android and iOS wallets for Syscoin. I'm really not good at waiting, but that is what is required for this coin right now. It's good to see that RC3 is coming out this weekend-we can look to download that then. Hopefully I can get some more BTC to buy SYS before the news starts floating around... |
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Bet you can't explain how its FUD. Go.
Saying that there is "weirdness going on" isn't really very helpful. All it does is suggest doubt where there really isn't any proof. Anyhow I won't be arguing anymore about this, as all it is doing is clogging up the thread... |
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are you saying there is no court case? No. Just saying tons of weirdness going on. LOL FUD. That is the first statement that I've heard from you that has zero substance. At least your previous statements were reasonable and based on the lack of hard evidence. Now it's just conjecture. Please tell me you aren't a troll and are actually a concerned citizen? |
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haha, the trolls are out in force. I'm sure they're from competing (lol, competing with this?) coins, and they can only hope to make BTC based on market sentiment and hype (or negative hype). It's funny to see them come out of the woodwork when things get rough. I will be buying more syscoin though; buy when there is blood in the streets. Keep it coming, asshole trolls, you're just making people sell into my buy walls.
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And don't forget--this is an excerpt from an earlier blog post on the site. If anybody is losing faith in the team due to the moolah debacle, just read this and remember why you invested in this coin in the first place. For the 0.1.6 wallet we will be rewriting the wallet-interface front end from scratch. This is partially why the date for the 0.1.6 release shifted and it is still a target date at this point. In the 0.1.6 wallet the alias interfaces will be recreated and improved alongside the new marketplace interfaces.
This new wallet will enable us to deliver a much richer experience, leveraging a greater percentage of the team’s skill sets while delivering more rapidly than ever before; for desktop and mobile platforms. Because this is such a radical shift moving from the interface language used in 0.1.5 [qt] to that used 0.1.6 [html/css/js] we will need more time to properly test this initial cutover and our packaging of it. Once on the 0.1.6 wallet, it is not unrealistic for updates 0.1.7 – 0.1.9 to be shifted forward in the timeline.
Remember, we already have all of the “features” for releases 0.1.7-0.1.9 completed, the releases simply dress them in more usable interfaces and enhance the features themselves based on RC feedback. There is nothing stopping developers from using the toolkits in our github repo, facilitating the development of better interfaces for these services right now!
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There is no reason to start a new coin-Syscoin, as a crypto, has no problems at all. The issues surrounding the image of the coin are what is causing the PR headache. The coin is still miles ahead of many other cryptos and just because the funds allotted to the developers are held up does not mean that Syscoin itself is in trouble. With the court documents now made public, investors and enthusiasts can cast their doubts aside that there is any wrongdoing with the coin, and that the developers of this coin were just the victims of a terrible theft. Now it is just a waiting game-court cases don't get resolved overnight. However, this headache will pass with time and the coin can continue doing what it was good at in the first place-innovating and providing new technology in the cryptocurrency world. Danosphere and mwheeleruk have said they aren't going anywhere, and development will continue. This is exactly what we needed to hear, and I look forward to seeing how the development progresses. Regarding development-if you're curious about the marketplace, you can run this ( http://speedy.sh/geVWV/sysmarket.tar.gz) on a localhost connected to a wallet (can have a 0 SYS balance, doesn't matter) to see the current offers. These commands are also available in the client's debug menu, but this makes it a little easier to browse. Lets turn the focus to moving forward, knowing that the coin can really only go up in influence as well as value from here. |
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So here is just a suggestion here. I'm seeing so much shady behavior with exchanges as most of you have. One thing I'll say is cryptsy like it or not, has IMO proven more than any other exchange thus far it's been the most legit out there. Even has a person (Big Vern) to point fingers at if things go wrong.
My suggestion here is let us not forget this exchange when buying syscoin. I for one will be buying all my syscoin from now on on cryptsy as they might be one of the only exchanges standing with all the rumors going on. Lets not forget to give them volume and business.
Just consider using them a little to keep syscoin volume going and stay listed there, it's an asset to be listed their long term, even if more volume right now is at other places.
I bought every single SYS I own at Cryptsy! And you're right, they have been around the block a lot. I have personally been refunded by Big Vern a while ago when the exchange was having issues, so I trust it (as much as you can trust in crypto). |
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The good news is that regardless of the outcome of this case, the SYS devs will still come out on top simply due to the rising price of the coin after they can put their full attention towards developing it!
Just hang on devs, it will get better!
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Version 1 of the web frontend for Syscoin is at a state where it can be released. I still haven't added the ability to buy/sell products yet, but you can browse them in the gui. This means that it can be put up on a server and used by many people as it doesn't remove/add money to the wallet. It's available for download here: http://speedy.sh/geVWV/sysmarket.tar.gzYou can run this on a local LAMP install--just point it to your syscoind or syscoin-qt in the config.php file. Happy browsing! |
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Someone please moderate manbot. He has been more than enough chance yet keeps cussing like a drunken sailor. This guy's posts won't help attract investors.
what he can say i am talkin shit when there is my proof..and you want to moderate me for talking the truth why are you defending slex ryan kennedy what did you buy in at 90 sats did you when the proper investors are sitting and waiting for a return..have you ever said you would donate to the devs if they need money well i have..1 THING I WILL NOT LET HAPPEN IS POOR PEOPLE GETTING RIPPED OFF..so i tell the TRUTH.and no i wont swear any more so say what you will..when the devs get to the end of the road map it will all be good...I own plenty of syscoin and if the devs need a donation out my own pocket i will donate WILL YOU It's not just the swearing (which is frankly unnecessary to get your point across), but also the style and content of your posts. Sentences. Paragraphs. Well formed arguments and thoughts. This not only shows respect for your reader, but also demonstrates that you care enough about what you're saying that you'll put the work in to make sure people will read it. This increases people's chances of seeing things from your point of view, and either agreeing or at least fostering a reasonable conversation. I am not sure if english is your primary language. But what I will say is your posts come across as someone very young. Likely too young to be investing in crypto (or really anything). If this is not the case, please try to improve your communications and you will see a lot less "attacks" in response. 6 months ago it took me 20 mins to type 10 words out now i am getting faster..so if i dont keep typing i will never learn..it takes me 10 mins to find different keys on the key board ..letters full stops and so on ..so stop trying to insult me .and after 1 to 2 years i will be able to type with my eyes closed..  i hope any way There's also a 'return' key on your keyboard. Please find it and use it from time to time to make sure other humans can read your posts without getting a headache  Agreed. If you could do just that I could read it much more easily! |
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