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281  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Julian Assange Announces Plan to Leave Ecuadorian Embassy 'Soon' on: August 21, 2014, 04:34:19 PM
A life of self-imposed imprisonment in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London versus the unknowns of legal battles in Sweden or the US - While an unenviable choice, I can see why Assange has decided to fly the coop. But why advertise the fact? It will only put his adversaries on hyper-alert.
282  Other / Politics & Society / Re: New Jersey man celebrates 101st birthday ... at work on: August 21, 2014, 04:29:54 PM
That is so inspiring to me. Use it or lose it. There really must be something to not thinking like a victim and just doing something productive daily whether ya feel like or not. Great story.
283  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheist evolutionary scientist convinced by the evidence on: August 21, 2014, 04:27:47 PM
OK, lets review the facts that have gotten you all worked up.
1.Man was an atheist, who accepted evolutionary thinking (well, what choice does an atheist have there?).
3.He is internationally know for his path-breaking neurophysiology research (more than can be said for the three of us, eh?)
2.He notes that, through his scientific research, he has come to see that there is a Creator God.

Now, those are facts.  You make take issue with some other things here, but, those are clearly the facts here.
284  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Syria vs. ISIS on: August 21, 2014, 03:47:37 PM
The thing is that in the case of sarin gas in Syria, it wasn't the government using it but the "rebels".

One thing about sarin is that it is relatively easy to work out its origins and the stuff in Ghouta was from Turkey who would never supply Assad.
there's not a shred of evidence that the sarin came from Turkey. That both sides have used it is undoubted, but to try and make the exact instance to which Obama responded the fault of the rebels is just more of his anti-American fantasizing. No matter what America does.
You can find some evidence in this link  as to the origin of the sarin.
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v36/n08/seymour-m-hersh/the-red-line-and-the-rat-line
For months there had been acute concern among senior military leaders and the intelligence community about the role in the war of Syria’s neighbours, especially Turkey. Prime Minister Recep Erdoğan was known to be supporting the al-Nusra Front, a jihadist faction among the rebel opposition, as well as other Islamist rebel groups. ‘We knew there were some in the Turkish government,’ a former senior US intelligence official, who has access to current intelligence, told me, ‘who believed they could get Assad’s nuts in a vice by dabbling with a sarin attack inside Syria – and forcing Obama to make good on his red line threat.’

The joint chiefs also knew that the Obama administration’s public claims that only the Syrian army had access to sarin were wrong. The American and British intelligence communities had been aware since the spring of 2013 that some rebel units in Syria were developing chemical weapons. On 20 June analysts for the US Defense Intelligence Agency issued a highly classified five-page ‘talking points’ briefing for the DIA’s deputy director, David Shedd, which stated that al-Nusra maintained a sarin production cell: its programme, the paper said, was ‘the most advanced sarin plot since al-Qaida’s pre-9/11 effort’. (According to a Defense Department consultant, US intelligence has long known that al-Qaida experimented with chemical weapons, and has a video of one of its gas experiments with dogs.) The DIA paper went on: ‘Previous IC [intelligence community] focus had been almost entirely on Syrian CW [chemical weapons] stockpiles; now we see ANF attempting to make its own CW … Al-Nusrah Front’s relative freedom of operation within Syria leads us to assess the group’s CW aspirations will be difficult to disrupt in the future.’ The paper drew on classified intelligence from numerous agencies: ‘Turkey and Saudi-based chemical facilitators,’ it said, ‘were attempting to obtain sarin precursors in bulk, tens of kilograms, likely for the anticipated large scale production effort in Syria.’ (Asked about the DIA paper, a spokesperson for the director of national intelligence said: ‘No such paper was ever requested or produced by intelligence community analysts.’)
Neither your link nor the posted quotes show a connection between the WMD of the rebels and that specific to the attack which triggered Obama's actions.

The question is the specific attack that we are talking about. If your position is that we should have done nothing, since both sides had it, then just say so and be done with it. But given the likelihood of which side would be able to use it to greater extent, and given the fact that in this instance it was Assad, not the rebels, who used it, then Obama still made the right call.
285  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Syria vs. ISIS on: August 21, 2014, 03:22:37 PM
Hmmm...let's recall.

When Bashir Assad started using chemical weapons on his own people, Obama wanted to stop him and went so far, against the better judgment of Congress and leftists, and the racist judgment of rightwingers, to threaten to bomb him without either Congressional OR UN authorization.

We can all remember, of course, the splenetic outrage at the mere threat, not the execution the mere threat of bombing Assad. It was a waste! Who cares if he uses WMD! Obama should never have drawn a red line!

Now, fast forward to ISIS. Obama doesn't draw a red line, and expresses reluctance to bomb. Now the rightwing says, "But, it's a humanitarian crisis! It's genocide! Why didn't he stop it before! We have to go to war war war.

People deny my statement that much of the division of this nation arises from the outright hatred for and racism towards the black guy in the White House, such that no matter WHAT he does he is deemed wrong.


Isn't this the perfect example of that?


We need to deal with the rightwing in this nation. They need to be silenced, one way or the other.
If you want to test the weakness of a leftist argument, see if he played the race card. If he did, did he present any evidence that race played a part? If not, you can simply throw it in the trash where it belongs.
286  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Consequences of high minimum wages: Automated ordering kiosks on: August 21, 2014, 03:09:10 PM
As much as I understand why companies would do it and how technology progresses, this is the start of something bad to come. The last thing we want is less jobs, period.
This is insane logic to me.But this logic, you think people should still be working 15 hour days in a pre-industrialized factory .I'd rather deal with a machine than a barely literate person that clearly doesn't want to be there.I'm okay with this.
People need to be working, getting paid, and being able to afford food to put on the table and a house to live in. They're not going to get a paycheck if Wall-E takes over their job.
Automation is GREAT if we have a society that is able to cope with the majority of people going out of a job.

But we don't. Our society is based on the premise that everyone needs to work.

This is what's going on, and this is why any optimism about people finding new stuff to make a living is completely unfounded:

http://andrewmcafee.org/2012/12/the-...he-us-economy/
287  Other / Politics & Society / Re: US Mission to Rescue Hostages in Syria Failed on: August 21, 2014, 03:05:27 PM
Damage control.....so pathetic.



Team Obama reveals that it tried to rescue Foley

When it comes to combatting ISIS, the Obama administration has precious few successes to talk about. So today it touted a failure:

    U.S. Special Operations forces staged an unsuccessful operation this summer to rescue photojournalist James Foley and other Americans being held in Syria by Islamic State militants, according to senior Obama administration officials.

    The attempt, involving several dozen U.S. commandos, one of whom was injured in a fierce firefight with the militants, was the first known U.S. ground operation in Syria since the country’s descent into civil war. It came after at least six European hostages freed by the militants last spring had been debriefed by U.S. intelligence.

    This information comes right after the beheading of ISIS hostage Jim Foley. Obviously, Team Obama wants to show the American public that it did what it could to save Foley, and it should be commended for the attempt.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/08/team-obama-reveals-that-it-tried-to-rescue-foley.php
288  Other / Politics & Society / US Mission to Rescue Hostages in Syria Failed on: August 21, 2014, 02:26:42 PM
Sadly, James Foley, and his family are well aware of that failure.   And Obama was right back on the golf course today after speaking of Foley's beheading by muslim terrorists.  Pathetic!

Pentagon Says Hostage Rescue Mission in Syria Failed

The Pentagon attempted a rescue operation to free some U.S. hostages held in Syria by Islamist militants, but the mission failed because the hostages weren't where U.S. planners thought they were, U.S. officials said Wednesday.       

A Pentagon spokesman gave few details but said the operation involved air and ground components and was focused on a "particular captor network" within the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham, or ISIS. The news comes a day after ISIS released a gruesome video documenting the beheading of U.S. journalist James Foley.

Lisa Monaco, President Barack Obama's assistant for homeland security and counterterrorism, said in a statement that Obama authorized the mission because the U.S. "had what we believed was sufficient intelligence."

"It was the national security team's assessment that these hostages were in danger with each passing day in [ISIS] custody," she said. While the effort failed, Obama "could not be prouder of the U.S. forces who carried out this mission and the dedicated intelligence and diplomatic professionals who supported their efforts," Monaco said.

This is a breaking news story. Refresh this page for further details.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/james-foley/mission-rescue-james-foley-other-hostages-syria-failed-officials-n185391
289  Other / Politics & Society / Re: American journalist James Foley reportedly beheaded by ISIS on: August 21, 2014, 02:07:55 PM
While these animals hack off the heads of American citizens, our president is enjoying his vacation, thinking "yea, we are doing a good job over there" bombing a few.  Send in the dang Marines and end these people.
And what are you going to do different than Obama? Spew threats at Islam? Round up all Muslims and put them in internment camps.


What exactly is this magical foreign policy you are looking for, that you obviously think will make these terrorist zealots love us and stop trying to kill us?
Having a Mossad Agent at the hem of ISIS probably means he is going to encourage the radicals into the area. This will also cause normal people to migrate. So whats left will be expendable. Though I think a lot of innocents will be killed also. Families of older members who are not mobile enough to travel will stay behind to care for their immobile elders.


Sad, really sad.
290  Other / Off-topic / Re: internal role change complications on: August 21, 2014, 01:50:52 PM
Chances are he's busy, and other things that are urgent are causing him some problems. However, that isn't justification. There is a large amount of unprofessionalism there, no matter whether you're the right person for the job or not.


Either that, or someone gave him a transcript of your bitcointalk posts, in which case they're preparing your termination paperwork.
291  Other / Politics & Society / Re: President Obama has no foreign policy on: August 21, 2014, 01:41:01 PM
Why does Obama take a realist approach towards Israel and Egypt policy, vs a neolib mentality everywhere else?
292  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Consequences of high minimum wages: Automated ordering kiosks on: August 21, 2014, 01:10:39 PM
As much as I understand why companies would do it and how technology progresses, this is the start of something bad to come. The last thing we want is less jobs, period.
This is insane logic to me.But this logic, you think people should still be working 15 hour days in a pre-industrialized factory .I'd rather deal with a machine than a barely literate person that clearly doesn't want to be there.I'm okay with this.
293  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Consequences of high minimum wages: Automated ordering kiosks on: August 20, 2014, 04:23:36 PM
Automation isn't inherently a bad thing. It creates a lot of abundance and value for people. The problem is that our current system is wholly unprepared for this. Free market will adopt automation as fast as it can because it's so profitable. But those profits aren't going to be routed back to the society in which they're integrated.

This means that as we stand now, our economy has not a single clue about what to do with 80% of humanity being out of a job within a decade or two. Our response is going to be much slower than the automation trend so we'll end up lagging way behind in adapting to this game changer.
294  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Consequences of high minimum wages: Automated ordering kiosks on: August 20, 2014, 04:18:44 PM
It's not all bad, automation increases efficiency and thus purchasing power.

On other hand, there needs to be solution for people who can't find work any more.


With respect to the fast food jobs that are being lost, this is 100% caused by being priced out by government intervention in payroll related costs. It's ridiculous to force employers to pay above market wages for jobs like this and expect to not have consequences with respect to job loss.
If you think its just unskilled workers' jobs on the chopping block, you're sorely mistaken. All white collar, professional, creative jobs are up for grabs - and the technology already exists to replace them.

Mass automation is already underway, and positions in which humans are required will be incredibly scarce.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU
295  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Consequences of high minimum wages: Automated ordering kiosks on: August 20, 2014, 04:13:35 PM
"There are some structural issues with our economy where a lot of businesses have learned to become much more efficient with a lot fewer workers," Obama said. "You see it when you go to a bank and you use an ATM, you don't go to a bank teller, or you go to the airport and you're using a kiosk instead of checking in at the gate."
Structural issues....
when will our "leaders" admit the overwhelming structural issue of our society is a combined lack of personal responsibility, ambition, and relevant education.
296  Other / Politics & Society / Re: American journalist James Foley reportedly beheaded by ISIS on: August 20, 2014, 04:06:54 PM
This is the jay-vee team obama isn't worried about? Now they are making demands on the US with threats for more beheadings if obama doesn't do as they say?  Someone remind me why what happens in iraq has no bearing on the US and pulling out all our troops was the right thing to do? Foley was captured in Libya, moved to Syria and now he's been executed by isis in iraq, somehow I think our foreign policy in the ME hasn't exactly created peace or allies.
Why, yes, I believe it is.  It's only a matter of time before the attacks on soft targets start here....our southern border is wide open.  When the terror begins, you can blame it on one man....Barack Hussein Obama.
297  Other / Politics & Society / Re: President Obama has no foreign policy on: August 20, 2014, 03:53:13 PM
I wouldn't say Obama doesn't have a foreign policy... I'd say his policy is in direct opposition to the general welfare of the United States. I'd also say the world is more dangerous now that it was when he took office.


Wasn't that long ago he was talking about how safe the world had become. Perhaps what he meant is that it is now safe for the Islamic Extremist to resume operations.
This is one popular belief, and I think it stems from some sort of faulty insistence that the United States and president Obama caused the Arab Spring, which was, in reality, a phenomenon that experts had been long awaiting and predicting. Indeed, if anything, it was overdue in its coming (a testament to how well authoritarian governments can suppress a population.
i'm wondering if it isn't more likely that he has the same policy across the board, but that we are missing information that he is privy to being that he's the president of the US.
298  Other / Politics & Society / Re: President Obama has no foreign policy on: August 20, 2014, 03:08:48 PM
I wouldn't say Obama doesn't have a foreign policy... I'd say his policy is in direct opposition to the general welfare of the United States. I'd also say the world is more dangerous now that it was when he took office.


Wasn't that long ago he was talking about how safe the world had become. Perhaps what he meant is that it is now safe for the Islamic Extremist to resume operations.
299  Other / Politics & Society / Gov to Farmers: Host Same-Sex Wedding or Pay a $13,000 Fine on: August 20, 2014, 02:43:50 PM
State Division of Human Rights....only in NY.  Couple has every right to say 'no' in accordance with their beliefs.

Government to Farmers: Host Same-Sex Wedding or Pay a $13,000 Fine

Should the government be able to coerce a family farm into hosting a same-sex wedding?

In a free society, the answer is no. Family farms should be free to operate in accordance with the beliefs and values of their owners. Government shouldn’t be able to fine citizens for acting in the market according to their own—rather than the government’s—values, unless there is a compelling government interest being pursued in the least restrictive way possible.

But the New York State Division of Human Rights doesn’t see things this way. On August 8, it fined Cynthia and Robert Gifford $13,000 for acting on their belief that marriage is the union of a man and woman and thus declining to rent out their family farm for a same-sex wedding celebration. The Human Rights Commission ruled that “the nature and circumstances of the [Giffords’s] violation of the Human Rights Law also warrants a penalty.”
  http://dailysignal.com/2014/08/19/government-farmers-host-sex-wedding-pay-13000-fine/
300  Other / Politics & Society / Re: American journalist James Foley reportedly beheaded by ISIS on: August 20, 2014, 02:33:16 PM
While these animals hack off the heads of American citizens, our president is enjoying his vacation, thinking "yea, we are doing a good job over there" bombing a few.  Send in the dang Marines and end these people.
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