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281  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Waspada Binance Palsu (Scam) on: September 12, 2023, 11:47:27 AM
Hallo gusy. Selamat malam semuanya...

Langsung ke intinya ya gusy... Tadi buka facebook saya menemukan ini.









Sumber: https://www.facebook.com/diloh.profitable/posts/pfbid025nPnRPrf3HxuugQtsGfQBq6YeFCvZ7jf5xUjP4YYKFsG89767XLerGG69jJfyh9tl


Saya tidak tau apakah di forum ini sudah ada yang mengetahui atau belum, tapi saya pikir tidak ada salahnya saya ingin berbagi informasi ini karena kasus seperti ini selalu memakan korban yang banyak. Setelah memakan korban yang banyak baru di proses hukum. Dan hal semacam ini terus menerus terulang di indonesia. Yang mirisnya rata-rata target market 'mereka' (investasi bodong) adalah orang-orang tua yang sudah pensiun yang mungkin masih awam dunia digital apalagi dunia crypto dan dengan mudah masuk dengan harapan bisa menghasilkan keuntungan berlipat-lipat tapi pada akhirnya rata-rata uang pensiunan mereka habis sia-sia. Satu sisi kasian, satu sisi lagi kalau di jelasin biasanya malah marah marah alasanya mumpung baru, belum scam.

Sebelum banyak yang menajadi korban, alangkah baiknya kita harus infoin dulu ke keluarga, teman-teman terutama yang berada di sekeliling kita. karena ini sangat jelas konteksnya adalah Ponzi yang jelas merupakan penipuan lebih parahnya lagi mengatas namakan perusahaan besar dari crypto yaitu Binance. Apakah mungkin kalau di laporkan ke pihak perusahaannya, bakal di tindak lanjuti sih sebagai hukum pidana?


Sumber; https://valoranews.com/berita/23606/investasi-rp200-ribu-seminggu-untung-sejutaan-di-aplikasi-bnb-binance-penghasil-uang-begini-caranya.html/halaman/1/

282  Economy / Economics / Re: Building wealth it's not just one time Luck on: September 11, 2023, 05:33:17 AM

In my opinion, each person will have different ways to get rich and no one will be the same, there is no common formula at all.


The most important thing to be a successful person is consistency. Success is not an overnight thing. You have to spend countless sleepless nights to achieve success.

I really believe that successful people are born from hard work, discipline and consistency. Don't worry too much about external things, but focus on improving your own skills.

In my opinion, there are actually four ways to build wealth to become rich.
1. Dreams (the dreamer) = dreams are the goal of our life, what is the current context, wealth, that is, you already have a dream of becoming rich.
2. Sever and investor (saving and investing) = saving and investing is a way to achieve our dream of becoming rich.
3. Company climber (job + position) = well, how do we want to earn money without working (honest, professional) and also if we don't save and invest, how can we achieve our dreams.
4. Vertuoso (skills) = well how can we get a job if we don't have skills, and how can we earn income without skills?
283  Economy / Economics / Re: What has really been behind china's economy on: September 11, 2023, 05:13:00 AM
The China had the product for the world population at the cheap cost,China also not the big economy like other Asian Nation.They had start to use their population in the good way,because China was the top of the world population.Using the population their had manufactured the product which will competition with the domestic product of any country.Actually the China product will be half the price of the domestic product,So the people buy the China product compared to their own domestic product.This was the cause of the China become the powerful economy.
China's technological and economic progress has greatly benefited developing countries. So that high-tech products become affordable, and raw materials are purchased by China at reasonable prices, China even builds raw material processing factories in developing countries, thus opening up job opportunities.

In the past, before China's progress, developing countries were exploited by developing countries selling their technological products at very high prices while raw materials from developing countries were bought very cheaply. This was a form of neo-colonialism (a new style of colonization using technology instead of weapons). So, countries such as the United States, Japan and other developed countries are disadvantaged by China's progress. now they can no longer monopolize their technology because they cannot compete with high-tech Chinese products at affordable prices. China's progress has improved human welfare. Products that used to be expensive are now affordable so that people with low incomes can buy the goods they need because the prices are cheaper. Maybe this is what makes China's economic strength strong.

I really hope that my country, as a developing country, can take advantage of China's rise for the progress of my country. Now many countries can buy machines and capital goods at affordable prices from China to advance the business world and increase people's productivity instead of buying consumer goods from China.
284  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: presuring someone into Bitcoin investment on: September 10, 2023, 10:25:22 PM
I don't know, how you see it.
Explaining Bitcoin to parents is very challenging and difficult, because there are more than 4000 different cryptocurrencies circulating on the market. Of course, when explaining bitcoin we will also explain altcoins and this will make those listening dizzy. So we have to explain slowly and the purpose of creating bitcoin in detail so that in the end many people have been able to gain profits from investing in cryptocurrency.

Therefore, there is no need to rush to explain it. Even if he already understands, we don't need to impose our will on his decision. So your mother made a good decision not to invest immediately after you explained. Instead, he researched it himself so that in the end your mother wanted to invest in bitcoin. In essence, to make it easier to explain the use of investing in bitcoin, it is an investment for the long term because bitcoin is better than gold. There is money, don't just save it, but rotate it either for business or future investment, because if the money is just left in the bank it won't produce anything while economic inflation is getting higher.
285  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: 🚧 [BOUNTY] Pepemo | Meme, AI, Fun! Break the Matrix PepeMo! on: September 10, 2023, 09:52:23 PM
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286  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Jakarta Darurat Polusi on: August 28, 2023, 06:46:59 PM
Mungkin ini salah satu pertimbangan IKN di kembangkan oleh presiden kita, sebagai antisipasi kepadatan penduduk di sebuah daerah, polusi ini terjadi karena kurangnya lahan hijau dan polusi udara.
kalau pertimbangan terhadap IKN yang mau dipindahkan, saya kira itu bukan sebuah solusi yang tepat karena pabrik-pabrik perusahaan tidak ikut pindah. Yang pindah hanya pusat pemerintahannya saja. Apalagi kita tau sudah sangat  banyak pabrik-pabrik di wilayah Jabodetabek dan di sekitanya bahkan lebih banyak dibandingkan kota-kota kecil di sekitarnya.

saya bayangkan gan seandainya pengguna kendaraan listrik mogok, pasti capek dorong nya, wkwkwk. desakan unutk menggunakan kendaraan listrik menurut banyak orang hanyalah trik unutk pemasaran kendaraan listrik saja karena masih banyak hal hal yang perlu di perbaiki namun tak kunjung juga di perbaiki. cara efektif memang menambah ruang terbuka hijau dan mengultimatum pihak pihak yang tidak turut serta berkolaborasi dengan pemerintah dalam mengurangi polusi udara di kota jakarta.
Kendaraan listrik bukan solusi, Dubai juga banyak mobil listrik,tapi polusi udara tetap buruk. Lagian di negara kita juga masih cukup minim akses jika menngunakan kendaraan listrik contoh seperti yang anda katakan ketika mogok atau habis listrik harus di cas ulang. Cara efektif untuk saat ini mungkin pemerintah di jakarta harus menaikkan pajan kendaraan pribadi atau menaikkan harga BBM 10x lipat mungkin dengan cara ini masyarakat akan kapok dan menggunkan transportasi umum, dengan catatat akses ke transpotasi umum aksesnya di benahi supaya lebih mudah. Tentu ruang penghijauan adalah hal wajib di kerjaan di setiap sudut kota.
287  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is it best to have a personal trading strategy? on: June 25, 2023, 06:44:33 PM
Literally every trader must have his own strategy, even though we learn from strategies from other people (experts) on various platforms or books. But at least we traders must have a strategy to define our investment goals clearly. This is similar to any investment, including for doing business, we must have our own strategy. That's why it's very important to have clear goals before making any investment.

Because with a strategy we know very well which direction we want to go and how to position ourselves when the market goes up or down. Ideally, there are two general views in Bitcoin trading, namely: Just want to collect Bitcoin and Want to pursue profits by buying and selling.
 
If we decide to become a Bitcoin trader, then we must focus on collecting profits, not collecting Bitcoins.
288  Economy / Economics / Re: does bitcoin help in your economy? on: June 24, 2023, 07:11:13 PM
there are many people investing in bitcoin, some are profitable and some are losing. and I believe bitcoin has a big advantage. The question is whether when you benefit from bitcoin, you can help your economy and your family?
It must be admitted that Bitcoin has become one of the assets that has attracted attention in the last decade and Bitcoin has characteristics that are attractive to many investors today. So it's no wonder that many are helped economically because they know bitcoin and of course improve family finances.

Examples of moments During the pandemic two years ago, many sectors of the economy were affected and many people also experienced financial difficulties. So some people view Bitcoin as an investment vehicle to gain passive profits because of its high volatility. When the global economy is unstable, some investors see Bitcoin as an alternative asset that can be used to make a profit. Of course, I am one of those who took advantage of this during the pandemic to keep my family's finances stable. In the end, I want to say that Bitcoin really helps my economy.
289  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: June 22, 2023, 04:40:10 PM
What's most interesting to wait for next season is Real Sociedad, Real Sociedad Return to the UEFA Champions League After 1 decade of waiting, can they make a new surprise next season? Real Sociedad last appeared in the 2013-2014 UCL season when they were reinforced by Claudio Bravo, Inigo Martinez, Antoine Griezmann and Carlos Vela, hopefully Real Sociedad can go further in the 2023-2024 UCL season.
Real Sociedad's success this season cannot be separated from Asian players, namely Kubo, who performed brilliantly last season so he could bring Real Sociedad to the top four in Laliga. It will be interesting if we want to see Kubo's journey from childhood until now.

Since childhood, Kubo's potential has really been seen. At that time in Barcelona he was in the most prominent youth team but unfortunately he didn't get the chance because of the local appendage of Catalan pride who had to get the chance. Unfortunately, when he moved to Madrid, he chose the wrong club, like leaving a tiger's cage and entering a lion's cage. In Madrid, the potential was out, but unfortunately, Ral Madrid is not that easy to believe that quality players from Asia end up playing more in the youth team. Kubo's decision to leave Real Madrid paid off. He is now an important player at Real Sociedad.
290  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: June 21, 2023, 07:46:31 PM
Your hopes are very optimistic, no matter how good Pochettino is, but I very much doubt that Chelsea will be able to compete for the first place, for them a place in the top 4 would be a very good result. Keep in mind that Pochettino will only start working with the team from the beginning of this season, there will be some kind of adaptation of the players to the coach, then most likely it will be necessary to correct the squard, since I doubt that all the players will be able to perform their tasks, there may be injuries and that similar. Formation of a team is a very long process, but I believe that Pochettino is able to achieve a good result with proper funding and with enough time to do so. It is also important that Boehly does not treat the team like a business, his dissatisfaction with the results is understandable, since he spent about 600 million on transfers, but expressing claims to the players arguing this with money wasted will not help improve the results.
Agree with you, I'm also not sure that Chelsea will be able to compete for the EPL trophy next season, they are in the top four, that's already extraordinary. It's true that Chelsea doesn't lack quality players. What is lacking is the chemistry between the players, which is almost non-existent. The relatively high price tag makes Chelsea players appear to be in a hurry to show who they are.

There is no aura of joy there. And this is a burden that makes them "stuck" with the establishment of a circle with high pressure. And when the scoreboard looks minor, the mentality of the players seems to be dropping, this is serious work for the new coach Pochettino. Chelsea must respect the process more and that can be done with the presence of a cool-handed coach, maybe this can be done by Pochettino. Chelsea must learn from MU (FERGUSON), Man City (Guardiola), Arsenal (Wenger/Arteta) or even Atletico Madrid (simone). Regardless of the scoreboard results, win or lose, these teams have a clear playing character.
291  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is this a good one for invest on: August 26, 2022, 11:32:29 PM
rebase project, i have bad experience with this kind project ,personally it depend on high APR only and no usecase from this token. for short term speculation maybe it could but for long it will die slowly.look at helena , its price slowly down and even rebase not enough to make us breakevent.
292  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: When is ever the right time. on: August 26, 2022, 11:25:08 PM
Unfortunately questions like this are very difficult to answer, but as an investor then immediately buying is a better decision, maybe after buying we will see a negative trend but with patience then we can get a big roi and profit
as investors we should not be hurry  while take decision , alot thing  must analize in market . as we know recently market move in high volatility and no one even could predict where price will goes on.never all in our investment , partial buying will safe us from big losses and also averaging price
293  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Is Ethereum best for investment? on: August 26, 2022, 11:22:43 PM
Hello, As i am looking in crypto market now so i am thinking Ethereum is good for investment now. What is your opinion for this?
ethereum is not the best crypto asset (Altcoin) for investment but one of the best in the crypto market. there are thousands of altcoins currently scattered and all of them have different potentials, ethereum is the largest altcoin but it is not impossible that there will be other altcoins in the future that can shift its position. if you really want the best investment then choose some like eth, bnb and solana.
alot new project will be the next ethereum or solana, everyday alot qualified developers come to crypto market and they build project that provide solution from previous problem. for example solana and bnb that give solution for gas fee problem in ethereum chain. maybe someday we will also see project that improve feature from bnb or solana. i am agree ethereum one of from best project in market not as the best.
294  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Time to buy some low cap coins on: August 26, 2022, 11:16:41 PM
The low cap is often up to 100% when it goes up, because the low cap really has very high volatility,
the OP made this thread in 2021, and indeed many low caps are now Bigcap,
and unexpectedly Matic can be very big until now, even though Matic used to have a lot of FUD.
lowcap was good place to speculate our money in order to get multiply return, fud will coming to this project if we didnt calculate bad scenarion that maybe happen someday. alot low cap project be major coin in market due their developtment progress , especially build about their usecase. matic should be example for this. for long time , matic price still move in limited range as if there is strong barrier.
295  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: List of most prominent altcoins of the moment on: August 25, 2022, 04:07:49 AM
If I intend to invest in altcoins, then only the at least top-tier coins will fill my bag. In this case, investing in altcoins will be more risky than in Bitcoin. Moreover, we still don't know exactly whether these altcoins will continue to survive or will fall down even though they are already bullish in the future.
Very potent altcoins can be seen from the list on coinmarketcap or CoinGecko
But in my opinion, ETH and BNB should be two of the investments in these altcoins.
eth and bnb were top smartcontract platform with huge ecosystem inside, demand from this ecosystem will drive price stable or even rising for long term. project with good utility in their ecosystem were worthed to buy and hold for long term, from this utility side bnb and eth filled this requirment . this is why eth and bnb could survive for long term and even every alot interested developtment released by dev team. if any new project have same condition with eth or bnb, maybe we should buy it.
296  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: How about investing into altcoins? on: August 25, 2022, 03:47:36 AM
Investing in altcoins is good but the problem is it is hard to identify what altcoins are good for short term or long term, i believe that no one can predict the future but most of the investors prefer on investing into altcoins that is high ranked on some coin tracking platform. Just do your own research and be careful on buying we are still in bear season and every transaction is very risky.
its right we could not predict the fact in future , but atleast from our analisys we could take summary about possibility that may happen based on data that provided in market. this data was usefull and alot investors or traders use it as basic statistic to understand market history that usually will repeat ed in certain periode. investing in altcoin or bitcoin actually has same risk if we dont entry on proper moment or time, moreover altcoin price was influenced by bitcoin , so more difficult for us to take decision. So based on this data we could analize , in the past which price level was good to entry or exit.
297  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Portfolio on: August 25, 2022, 03:32:33 AM
when you want to play with your money and want it of course, you want to bet and win it and of course short time when the market is like this is a solution but if it is a long term investment buying everything and spending it into tokens/altcoins is not a good thing because seeing some friends and realistic information with current prices that the market will plunge very deeply. so it's good to buy in installments with 1-3 altcoins that are definitely brilliant
dont buy shitcoin which is have no utilities at all , just pick coins from top 10 or top 50 from coinmarketcap it will give us certainity , although no one could guarantee it will 100% safety. Luna case should be our attention , even top project could crash so how about new project which is still in developtment stages. research on many projects will help us to identify which project worth to invest  and which is not worth or full or risk.
298  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What altcoin will go 10x this year? on: August 24, 2022, 11:46:37 PM
I think the biggest opportunity to be able to profit 10x in a short time is on the new listed coins, I once invest around $ 600 to buy 50 new listed coins and the results are only 4 that I have been selling and profit 10x in 2 months, of course it is very difficult to see what coins are Can rise 10x in a short time or not, but if we want security, investment in the top coins is better.
its pure speculation in my opinion , to get multiple gain in new coins we must do deep research and also observation to get clear information about this new project especially their goal in short term , medium or long term. but spreading our money into several portofolio was good strategy , maybe one of them will give us huge profits
299  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Ethereum Will Not Devalue To Zero on: August 24, 2022, 11:42:29 PM
Every friction that occurs and various speculations to destroy eth will always be there. But as you can see, eth will always be fine and run as usual. And you can imagine if the price of Eth reaches zero, I believe that this may be the end of the cryptocurrency's glory
alot ethereum haters in this market and its normal for us, every projects will attact by fudders which is actually they want buy it cheaply. Ethereum as first smart contract platform , since begining till today has alot problem ,from internal or even external. price moved with high volatility but as we know its still survive now and even getting stronger and stronger.
300  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Knowing Potential projects on: August 19, 2022, 11:57:21 PM
I think projects that are active on social media and often hold AMA are projects that have the potential to be large, I followed several projects that often hold AMA and are happy because the sign to be bigger is increasingly visible, but I don't want to guarantee 100% that my experience will be in accordance with people other.
in communication side if developers team regularly hold AMA , its good thing for us as investors. we will know the lastest update about their developtment so it could be indicators how they will build project transparantly. but we need more than AMA , they must also deliver product as suitable with their timeline so more trust will coming.
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