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2821  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: June 28, 2021, 10:07:41 PM
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Nobody said you should not talk about other places, I just meant do not talk about it in other places groups. For example if you want to talk about casino A, go talk about it on casino A topic and not at casino B topic, same goes to Casino B, do not talk about it in the topic of casino A. That is of course my opinion and not the general rule of thumb, I have seen a million casinos talked about in this topic, and if you go to other topics you will get to see many different casinos talked in there as well, people do love that, I just do not feel like that is the right thing to do.

Obviously speaking it makes speaking a bit difficult because I limit, but I just say "certain casino" and get out with it. Also not all places are like that, most places do offer a flat rate, so let's say you have 5% rakeback (for example only) then if you gamble a million dollars you get more back then a guy who wagered 100 bucks, simple math.
2822  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will bitcoin dump below $30,000 this week? on: June 28, 2021, 09:54:39 PM
Bitcoin has been so volatile, it even reaches the point that people thought bitcoin will not recover anymore, but look where it is now, it's at $30k and still at a good price even if it has corrected its price.

Thing is, bitcoin is not built for short-term success, with all the manipulation, the hypes, and the FUD, it's normal to see it pump and dump but its long-term growth is very positive.
Yeah, at the same time if the price fall is healthy because corrections are good, then that means 30k is good as well, if its not good that means 30k is not good, you can't have both corrections as good but 30k as bad. Of course you could have corrections that are smaller, but right now the price is in the range of dropping to 30k and still being close to where it is right now, which is why it could still be considered a correction, I am not saying accept 20k as correction but 30k is still at the correction level as long as it can recover

 I believe as long as rich people keep accumulating bitcoin at every level (10k, 20k, 30k and even 40k) it is fine for all of us, because when they accumulate that means they will want to see it go up and do whatever they can for it, which is why drops are not a big deal anymore.
2823  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why is bitcoin plunging? What is the reason for this? on: June 28, 2021, 09:46:08 PM
There were many things/events are causing the market price of Bitcoin to fall, but I think this is what’s expected to happen after a bull run, and let’s say maybe a lot of people are starting to cash in their profit and that’s why the market had been falling.

Most of us wants the market to go up steady so that we can keep making a lot of profits, but it doesn’t work that way, there is definitely going to be a bearish trend at some point. Although one thing I have noticed is that the lowest is usually above the lowest in the past. So right now that we have seen the price go as far up as $65,000, when it drops it’s possible that it might not go below the price of $28,000.
2824  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: It takes years to build a reputation and seconds to break it on: June 28, 2021, 09:40:28 PM
But my question is why would they risk all they have invested to a few players by scamming them? I for one know the forum will side with the player that have been allegedly being scammed in most cases but how do casino's/bookies  protect themselves if not terms and conditions?
It might be because the sum involved is just too big and the casino cannot resist scamming the user. A lot of sites are doing selective scams where they will pay small players and scam the big odd one to keep their scam selective and deceptive.

Everywhere all positive things are too harder to achieve whereas negative things could be attained in matter of seconds itself. I have seen many crypto places building their reputations for years but just after a hack they lose everything and may go bankrupted due to out of controllable things.
2825  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: what is the ideal price difference that people use to arbitrage bitcoin? on: June 28, 2021, 08:45:19 PM
as many have commented that bitcoin arbitrage will not be profitable because you will be charged multiple fees, so it cannot cover the transferred capital.
Likewise, with the most profitable altcoin, it may only be 1% to 2%, considering that it depends on the condition of the altcoin trading volume and the spike that is generated in a short period of time. However, if you are doing arbitrage when conditions are hunting for high prices in one particular market, then you experience a delivery jam or wait for several confirmations, it will be very risky.
I don't get how withdrawal fees will hinder arbitrage trading. I will explain how it can be done without actually withdrawing and depositing BTC.

1- Imagine you see BTC being sold at $35k at one exchange. (exchange A)
2- You see people buying BTC at 36k at another exchange. (exchange B)

Now what you need to do is really simple. You will borrow 1 BTC from exchange A at $35k and then you will short sell 1 BTC at exchange B at $36k. Now once both the trades are completed, you just need to deposit 1 BTC back to exchange B which you can do with ease since you have that in exchange A. Did I miss something here guys?
2826  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Man lost £20,000 in one night after becoming addicted to online gambling! on: June 28, 2021, 08:16:10 PM
It is easy to tell people to "just stop" but the reality is that addiction is addiction and some people can't do it. And by the way not all addictions are applicable to all people, like for example I can eat 20 chocolate bars for 1 month straight every single day and then can never eat chocolate again in my life and I wouldn't really feel too much about it (well occasionally it is nice, but that's it) however I smoke cigarettes one pack a day and if I stay without them for few hours it really makes me angry, on the other hand my wife can't go without a chocolate for a day, but only smokes whenever she wants to on special occasions.

This is just one example, but not all the things that is addictive are addictive to everyone, so if you feel like gambling is something you can stop doing, know that it is not addictive for you but doesn't mean it is not addictive at all.
2827  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Stop losses on: June 28, 2021, 08:06:53 AM
By using stop loss we can make more trades in future, meanwhile if we didnt set up it we could only make single trade only. this is the function of using  money management strategy, we can save our money if suddenly market crash sharply
Yes, keeping the open position in negative profits and then watching it with all pain of losses and along with seeing other good opportunities are missing out because of not having enough capital to trade with, must be very much frustrating situation any trader could face. Trading without stoploss must be a failure of money management principles. When we are not having something as per the basics of recommended pro trading plans then we cannot expect good results all the times.

It wasn't the urge to use this stuff if we are full-time traders but if we just have a limited time to monitor our trades, it is a must for us to consider.
I disagree. Even you are a full time trader, you must go for stoploss orders because I have experienced market situations where prices are jumping in quicker manner and in that kind of situations we cannot do anything even we are watching markets closely.
2828  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What are your trading strategies ? on: June 28, 2021, 07:09:46 AM
I don't think it will be a problem if we hold coins in btc, because one day the price will certainly rise again, it's just that we have to mentally prepare for it
That must be the holding strategy every bitcoiner is already following; when it comes about bitcoin investments then probably we do not have to struggle for innovating any new strategy but we can simply go for holding strategy by believing into the future of bitcoins.

you just need to wait for the right time and bull run to cash your coins.
For figuring out the right time we must need some strategy otherwise we might be infinitely waiting for cashing out. Most people are going for cashing out based on their requirements and not based on the price levels of bitcoin still I believe they are good to go with that kind of strategy.
2829  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎣 BUSTAFISH.COM|⚡Free BTC Every Hour⚡| Play For Fun Or Gamble! 🎣 on: June 27, 2021, 09:33:23 PM
I understand that there is an argument to be made about "stolen" which I think it may or may not be and it is irrelevant. However if you get codes from somewhere else, then the license applies, however even when that is not the case, when you even just use "busta" when starting, that is like saying you are part of that company when you are not. I do not know the legal status, I do not know the rules or laws or whatever, could this be illegal or not, I do not care about that neither because it is not my job to care, let the owner of this website and devans handle whatever they have between them and it is only their business.

What I can say, as a gambler in other busta parts (not here) that it is "unethical" and that is guaranteed, I am not knowledgeable about anything else, only thing I can say clearly is the fact that this is "unethical" because the "busta" part was clearly added to steal customers away with fake premise of being part of it only to realize it is not when people join, that is unfair.
2830  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: June 27, 2021, 09:12:33 PM
I thought you meant you were never gambling outside freebitcoin. And I was a little bit surprised because I thought you were a big gambler (and so you were naturally gambling on the platform of your signature). I hope Dplay will be a big challenger in the crypto gambling industry and will be able to compete against the biggest casinos of the area but I disagree with you about Stake I don't think they only take care of whales, bonuses and promotions are available for everyone, even with tiny stakes.
Yeah, I didn't mean that Cheesy. I do play outside of freebitcoin, and I also do gamble in stake a bit but like I said I think they are not really 100% fair to shrimp as they are to whales, they give probably 100x more to whales then what they give to shrimp so that is why I dislike that part, however that is still a legit place and I do gamble there. Enough about stake on this topic, it is getting to sound like advertisement lol.

However yeah I do mean that other places and intertops was the place I talked about, it sucks big time and I tried again and I just hate it there. This doesn't mean I dislike every other place, I do not want to name any names to not sound like a shill but there are few other places that I really like, one place is this amazing sportsbook and the other place is a dice game website that should innovate already but I prefer them on dice gambling.
2831  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎲BetFury.io|⚡️Free BTC+BNB|⚡️$3.5mln Staking pool|⚡️BFG listing party on: June 27, 2021, 08:40:05 PM
I see sports betting is still too new, maybe in the near future, they will add BFG mining there...

the discussion about the signature campaign is very interesting, I'm sure many people will join if betfury holds another signature campaign.
I sure would love to, and to think that they may end up paying with BFG, which you can also farm? That would be something cool to see as well. As far as I know we didn't had that yet, farming is something totally brand new. Also everyone is talking about "mining" it but I think the correct term is farming it, same was the case for many online games back in the day, like you do not "mine" wow gold (well unless you were a miner I suppose), you farmed it. Then it moved to here as well, miner is the guy who uses the machines, farming is the act of getting more of that same token no matter what, it is different from profiting because profiting usually means a dollar related thing.

This is why we should call all these things we are doing with bfg as "farming". You can also check many dex like cake and so forth and they are called farms.
2832  Economy / Economics / Re: When everybody tell you take take risk with money on: June 26, 2021, 08:37:10 PM
You can take risk with your life, you can take risk with your computer.
You know, I feel like laughing when I read such things. Taking a risk with life? like jumping in front of a moving train? Taking a risk with the computer? Like dipping your keyboard in a buck full of water? I don't know how one can take risks with life and computer, by the way, two very contrasting things.

People suggest taking risks with money because it gives you a chance to earn more money. If you are risking your life, you get nothing. Actually, there are people who risk their life by doing dangerous stunts and earning money.

MONEY is the riskiest of all risk!!
The moment you feel money is more precious than life, it should signal you that something is not right in your life and it is usually related to money crisis
2833  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: June 26, 2021, 08:14:42 PM
I didn't even know something like that is going on, I will definitely check it out. By the looks of it the website is definitely not a place where I would feel comfortable playing normally, it looks like a very horrible website to be fair, but hey if they are going to just give stuff away then there is nothing I wouldn't do, at the very end it is just free and I do not spend anything, I will probably lose anyway I know that but it is just one register, gamble, lose and move away that's it, there is nothing more that I need to do.

This is why I don't care how terrible it looks. We already have freebticoin where we can gamble most stuff anyway, so there is no need to go look for another place specially that far away, if I ever wanted to gamble outside of freebitcoin, I would pick a place that would be around in bitcointalk and liked around here.
You never gamble on Stake tygeade? Why? It's a very nice place I think with many interesting bonuses and promotions and the look and feel is smooth, clear and sober, as if it was a dark mode. I'm sure Dplay the incoming FUN token casino will be a killing platform but meanwhile you should try the other IMO.
Stake? I do not know what does it have to do with stake, I was talking about intertops. I didn't check one neither, I just assumed there was a freeroll poker tournament in intertops that gave away a ton of fun tokens, that is what I understood from the talk but I didn't even bother to check with the tournament and register. Intertops is literally the worst looking website I have seen including the test website I made on wordpress, it is literally THAT bad, so I couldn't handle a minute longer and just decided not to go with that.

If this is something to do with stake then in that case I can check that out, I gambled on stake before and I like that place, not too much though because they care for whales more than anyone else but I still think that they are definitely bearable enough to just wait and see what is going to happen for a freeroll tournament.
2834  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🚀 Sportsbet.io- Club House- The best EURO 2021 promotions around!!🚀 on: June 26, 2021, 04:19:39 PM
^^ One thing is for sure, people are not sure about the game between Belgium and Portugal. Too many people decided each, we do not have a clear favorite in that game, which means there will be a great game to watch, why would I really watch the game between France and Switzerland for example, unless Swiss make a big surprise, it is going to be boring (same with Italy and Spain).

I would say the next best thing is wales vs Denmark, some people picked Denmark and some people picked wales, that seems like a possible good game. Lastly but not least Sweden vs Ukraine, that is seems close as well and people picked both sides too, it is looking fun. Obviously it is a tournament with elimination so anything could happen, you could see the most unexpected finalists, but I still think Italy vs France will be the most important game, rest is not that unexpected at this point.
2835  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: June 25, 2021, 09:42:52 PM
Anybody planning to participate in the freeroll to win some FUN tokens? I have no account yet at intertops, but will probably signup there to participate in the tournament. I like playing poker (when I have time) and this combined with a freeroll is even better.
I have signed up at intertops and I am planning to join but as of now I havent decided on which day I will be playing. Intertops is not the fanciest poker site that I have ever seen but I'll give it a try because its a freeroll. On top of that, its 170k+ FUN Token for the winner of the Grand Finale and that is close to $2000 even with the current rate
I didn't even know something like that is going on, I will definitely check it out. By the looks of it the website is definitely not a place where I would feel comfortable playing normally, it looks like a very horrible website to be fair, but hey if they are going to just give stuff away then there is nothing I wouldn't do, at the very end it is just free and I do not spend anything, I will probably lose anyway I know that but it is just one register, gamble, lose and move away that's it, there is nothing more that I need to do.

This is why I don't care how terrible it looks. We already have freebticoin where we can gamble most stuff anyway, so there is no need to go look for another place specially that far away, if I ever wanted to gamble outside of freebitcoin, I would pick a place that would be around in bitcointalk and liked around here.
2836  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎲BetFury.io|⚡️Free BTC+BNB|⚡️$3.5mln Staking pool|⚡️BFG listing party on: June 25, 2021, 07:19:48 PM
I also found some problems in the sports section on betfury
but we have to give the developers time because they are definitely working on fixing bugs there

betfury really caught the attention of many gamblers when announcing the BFG exchange on biswap
in the long run it looks like betfury will be the best
It is called "hug of death" or "slasdot effect" on internet. When a website is linked by another website then there is this period where waaaay too many people shows up. Think about like some mom and pop shop getting at the top of all at reddit, that would make their website crash, still a good thing considering at least they are now known and even though the website has some problems because of it, being known matters in online world.

Same here, biswap really put the place on map, it was always known of course, those boxes things are unique and many people came in here for them, but that doesn't change the fact that more people can always come and this biswap thing managed that. Imagine what could happen when this place gets listed on ape and cake, that will surely change a lot and there will be a ton more people coming here to gamble with the token.
2837  Economy / Gambling / Re: Chips.gg |🎰 100k Event | Daily New Slots | on: June 24, 2021, 08:26:22 PM
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We look forward to sharing the new game with you all soon!
Every place needs new games constantly to keep up with the competition, plus it would be good to have a good promotion at the start to attract more people as well (or keep the current ones happy) because after all there are waaaay too many places in the crypto casino world and the competition is fierce and everyone is offering something to people to get them, it is a bit unfair to the ones that do not have a good amount of capital, but that is just business I suppose.

Chips is definitely not at the bottom of that list, it is at the very top with only handful of places if you ask me, guaranteed top 10 casino in all of crypto (for me) but I get the improvements and additions because if you let chips be like this for 5 years, after 5 years it will not be in top 10, hence the games, but do not forget marketing, I would love to see some promotions for the crash game.
2838  Economy / Economics / Re: Does Money Need Competition To Flourish on: June 24, 2021, 09:04:16 AM
For sure, you’re right about competition being a drive towards self improvement. If there is no competition, there wouldn’t be that urge for improvement. Everyone wants to come out and do something that is better than the other. But I think that in the case of Bitcoin, and fiat, this is totally different. There can’t be any competition in this case. I don’t know how I am going to put this for you, but maybe I can try.

The example you used here is between an organization that is centralized which is Google and Microsoft, and these two are selling products to people, so in a case like this there has to be a competition and both will be trying to do something better as a way to get better than the other team so they can sell out their project. But since Bitcoin is decentralized, who exactly are you competing with?
2839  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: June 23, 2021, 08:21:53 PM
You can make basically a calculation based on what people think the market will do based on the bets here. The biggest here is 35-40 right now and that makes sense, the whole 30-40 barrier is definitely a big rule of thumb right now and I would say it makes sense, they cover the two biggest bets and cover 60% of all bets, that makes sense.

However when you go further, you see that third bet is 25-30 and not 40+ which tells me people expect it to be under 30 (more likely) and not 40+ and that is an important thing to see. You know that people are the ones who decide the price, not Elon Musk, not SEC, not governments, it is us that end up selling or buying according to what we feel like and right now the bets show that it is possible that we see price staying here most likely, but if it were to move ever then downwards is more likely than upwards (according to bets of course).
2840  Economy / Speculation / Re: Game over to Bitcoin Time to sell all on: June 22, 2021, 09:00:47 PM
People who are scared of bitcoin going up are the same people who are afraid that either their whole wealth will be insignificant achievement due to people ending up with a good profit on crypto much more than what they did in years with hard work, or people who are afraid that there is no way out of the rat race they are in and crypto was just a lie.

Both of them are hurting themselves and not the market, market is fine and will always be fine, we went to 20k in 2017 when it was the first time ever we broke over 1.5k, think about that, bitcoin never broke over 1.5k before 2017 peak and then we reached 20k, then we reached as low as 3k, that is over 80% drop, people were so scared that many believed it will be zero, you know what happened? We broke over 60k recently. So market will be fine, it is the people who think that bitcoin is not a cultural revolution against the fiat domination of the governments to keep our heads down, that's all there is.
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