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2821  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: February 15, 2014, 04:28:02 AM
I remember back in my early days of trading I'd have these "feelings" and I'd ignore them and later learn that I should have listened to them after I had taken a loss. Once I learned about technical trading, after studying some charts, I realized that these "feelings" I used to have actually corresponded exactly to TA indicators like MACD and RSI.
2822  Economy / Speculation / Re: Posslble trendlines (with charts and lines). Which one will hold? on: February 15, 2014, 03:44:55 AM
2823  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 15, 2014, 01:41:59 AM
I drank about 0,5 liters of vodka, and bought 0,22BTC for transferring to BTC-E, to visit the trollbox :|
I'm thinking of drinking the other 0,5l and I hope that there are some more intoxicated people here, so I don't bring shame upon myself alone Sad

Thatīs the way to do it! +1
I can truly recommend this lifestyle! Cool
buy drunk sell high,  the famous btc-e trader motto (next to buy high sell low)

drunk reduces inhibitions and high increases paranoia
2824  Economy / Speculation / Re: [poll] Call the bottom of The Great Bitcoin Crash of 2014 on: February 15, 2014, 01:40:00 AM
I guess it's based on gox? Why would you do that?

Gox is the legacy price, and even though noone wants to admit it, Gox still drives the market in a large way.
Gox does drive the market but only with a smaller ratio of effect now. Yesterday gox price was under half of Bitstamp price. Even though it affects the price, it does not actually represent the price of bitcoin.  If I want to buy a bitcoin right now and use it at a merchant or if I want to sell a bitcoin and receive cash right now, it is going to be based on Bitstamp price. The actual mtgox price is meaningless. Nobody actually thinks bitcoins are worth $300 now.
2825  Economy / Speculation / Re: [poll] Call the bottom of The Great Bitcoin Crash of 2014 on: February 15, 2014, 01:33:48 AM
Either support was already found at 530 or support will be found at 400 in about a month from now.

I'm confused by the poll - I guess it's based on gox? Why would you do that?
2826  Economy / Speculation / Re: Posslble trendlines (with charts and lines). Which one will hold? on: February 15, 2014, 01:28:01 AM
Perhaps it is the intersection of the logarthmic trendlines and the horizontal supports which determines when these levels are hit and lead to a final reversal into a bull market?

This could lead you to say that "in one month from now, final support will be found at 380", because that's where the lines intersect.
2827  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 15, 2014, 12:46:47 AM


Today has shown yet another impressive bounce from a highly oversold level. The bounce was based on information and repressed forces, and it is likely that emotions were involved, driving it exceptionally high. However, we are still early into the bear market and the current charts closely resemble a bulltrap in June. The chart still needs some time to develop and prove itself as not a trap by sustaining these high levels and so far it does not look like that is happening on Bitstamp. If it is a trap then the 3 day EMAs will be crossing down.
2828  Economy / Speculation / Re: We have cheap coins now... so stop complaining!!! on: February 15, 2014, 12:10:14 AM
In 2 weeks people will say things like this "Oh I missed the train to buy cheap coins."  Roll Eyes
As soon as they start buying is when the trap will close and they end up with expensive coins.
2829  Economy / Speculation / Re: $713, stamp is batshit insane. Bull trap or bear trap? on: February 15, 2014, 12:08:11 AM
bat trap
2830  Economy / Speculation / Re: Posslble trendlines (with charts and lines). Which one will hold? on: February 15, 2014, 12:00:22 AM
So far trends 2+3 seem very strong and that could have been the bottom, or, they could simply be serving as a bulltrap. If this recovery fizzles out or there are more bad events then this trend could eventually give way and the real bottom could be on Trend 1.

I don't agree with the red line in the post above me because it doesn't trace back to the origin of bitcoin like my Trend 1 does.
2831  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: MTGOX <-> BTC BID/ASK on: February 14, 2014, 02:29:15 PM
WTB up to 100 goxxed btc @ 55%
2832  Economy / Speculation / Re: Breaking News: Bitstamp & other exchanges to Resume Withdrawals TODAY! on: February 14, 2014, 02:07:11 PM
2833  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 14, 2014, 02:03:45 PM
2834  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 14, 2014, 12:57:35 PM
2835  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 14, 2014, 12:32:25 PM
It's called a bit "stamp" and now it's over twice as expensive as a goxcoin.
2836  Economy / Speculation / Re: I tried to help... on: February 14, 2014, 12:24:09 PM
I'm confused by the timing of this thread. Bitstamp is green on daily.
2837  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: February 14, 2014, 12:21:49 PM
I understand about gox enabling withdrawals but what about bitstamp enabling withdrawals? Apparent Bitstamp thinks this means CCMF.
2838  Economy / Speculation / Re: Breaking News: Bitstamp & other exchanges to Resume Withdrawals TODAY! on: February 14, 2014, 12:13:37 PM
Components of the bear market:

1. Millions of coins need to be capitulated. Major profit taking starts when 1W MACD goes down, and doesn't stop until the profit taking is done, despite any news.
2. Hackers have stolen and are dumping coins.
3. China has banned banks and 3rd party payment processors dealing in bitcoin and there was no sudden influx of investors in China on Jan 31 or Feb 8.
4. Russia has outright banned bitcoin.
5. Cyprus issued a bank advisory and btce is potentially at risk.
6. India.
7. Apple removed bitcoin from the app store.
8. Some of what were thought of as major exchanges were weak enough to flashcrash to $100 when the shit hit the fan - this is never before seen.
9. Flaws on Bitfinex have been exploited, traders on Bitfinex have lost money. The staff at Bitfinex showed themselves as bad at responding to issues and unfit to be running an exchange.
10. The market has realized bitcoin and bitcoin service usage is not 100% safe and subject to potential security flaws.
11. The foundation members are not entirely trustworthy.
12. A foundation member was arrested in conjunction with silk road.
13. Men in florida were arrested and received felony money laundering charges for using localbitcoins.
14. There is a reduced trust in exchanges (which have shown themselves as incompetent and are down millions of dollars due to hackers).
15. Silk Road 2 has closed its escrow service.
16. Gox started processing cash withdrawals, fiat is actually exiting the system, and jaded investors are actually leaving the economy altogether.
17. Btce halted fiat withdrawals.
18. Gox and stamp closed btc withdrawals.

So because 1 or 2 of the items in this list are satisfied it means the whole bear market is off and it's back to the moon?  I don't think so... I think perhaps this is that trap with an intermediary 4 hour uptrend I was talking about.



move the circle a little bit forward that's where we are  Smiley

This does not compute. Look how many days have passed so far with this entire thing. Only 12!

2839  Economy / Speculation / Re: Breaking News: Bitstamp & other exchanges to Resume Withdrawals TODAY! on: February 14, 2014, 10:36:11 AM
Components of the bear market:

1. Millions of coins need to be capitulated. Major profit taking starts when 1W MACD goes down, and doesn't stop until the profit taking is done, despite any news.
2. Hackers have stolen and are dumping coins.
3. China has banned banks and 3rd party payment processors dealing in bitcoin and there was no sudden influx of investors in China on Jan 31 or Feb 8.
4. Russia has outright banned bitcoin.
5. Cyprus issued a bank advisory and btce is potentially at risk.
6. India.
7. Apple removed bitcoin from the app store.
8. Some of what were thought of as major exchanges were weak enough to flashcrash to $100 when the shit hit the fan - this is never before seen.
9. Flaws on Bitfinex have been exploited, traders on Bitfinex have lost money. The staff at Bitfinex showed themselves as bad at responding to issues and unfit to be running an exchange.
10. The market has realized bitcoin and bitcoin service usage is not 100% safe and subject to potential security flaws.
11. The foundation members are not entirely trustworthy.
12. A foundation member was arrested in conjunction with silk road.
13. Men in florida were arrested and received felony money laundering charges for using localbitcoins.
14. There is a reduced trust in exchanges (which have shown themselves as incompetent and are down millions of dollars due to hackers).
15. Silk Road 2 has closed its escrow service.
16. Gox started processing cash withdrawals, fiat is actually exiting the system, and jaded investors are actually leaving the economy altogether.
17. Btce halted fiat withdrawals.
18. Gox and stamp closed btc withdrawals.

So because 1 or 2 of the items in this list are satisfied it means the whole bear market is off and it's back to the moon?  I don't think so... I think perhaps this is that trap with an intermediary 4 hour uptrend I was talking about.

2840  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: BISTAMP! on: February 14, 2014, 10:33:24 AM
I got that KYC thing when I was withdrawing fiat and went over $30K within a month.
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