veteran poster labeling every new member "fraudster" need to cool it.  I like NEM, i have asked my friends to join NEM, they paid for it with real money, how can we be sure NEM itself is not a scam?

This tread is more than 40 pages long and half of it is filled with people complaining about other peoples stake. Nem wants to attract new people , why would a newbie join NEM if all you so called "veterans" label us newbies  "fraudster".

NEM has a very small chance of succeeding in this already flooded cryptomarket , we are all taking a punt and some have gambled more than others, that does not mean they are frauds. A lot of .04 or .05 btc will add up.

If we truly want NEM to succeed, we need to be more welcoming. Someone can just start a new coin following the same initial distribution model ( future coin ) then we are left with just another cheap  crypto if even that.

Veterans I don't mean to offend but rather than bickering lets welcome everyone( we need all the help we can get) and think of ways to make NEM a better coin. We need a market place where all NEM stake holders should initially put at least one tangible stuff for sale priced solely in NEM coin. If we can achieve that,we would have managed to outpace almost all these other crypto coins.

Take a note of these cases as we will use that in a public auditing after the fund raising is over. But I expect the auditing is the community's effort not mine - we can go as far as the community wants to go. After all the development fund belongs to NEM's community and to be used by the developers/ community to build the crypto we love.

Later taint analyses will be used to reduce further the amount of big NEM stake holders.
These are best efforts to spread NEM widely and evenly to a huge user base and it is already better than the best effort to date: counter-party protocol.

Let's make a distinction between two terms:

"fraudster" : did not send money to NEM; tried to clone other's people hash or made up bogus hash to get in the lists

"multi-acc-ter: who did send money to NEM to be a part of NEM development fund; but he has multiple accounts doing that. These are not fraudster and as far as they send money to NEM then I would at least thank them for their trust. They also did not violate any pre-defined rules except the "unfairly accumulation" clause. We will refund them later in the cases of big multi acc-ters.

When will be the coin released? Any time period? Or how many people should be stakeholders to get started?

Me too, I want to know what will be the limit, 0.2%, 0.4% 0.8%?


We'll see how many stakes have is the limit.

They already warned us:

"In short - We can't. Multiple buy-in will be possible with multiple accounts. We also want you to have the ability to buy a NEM stake for your loved ones so they could all join the movement. However accumulating many NEM stakes goes against NEM's principles of fairness and equality, therefore the development team reserves the right to refund you the money if an effort to unfairly accumulate NEM stakes is discovered."

I am on the Stakeholder page!
How do I claim my NEM? looking at the blockchain, it appears to be live now? =)

I prefered it when it was more metal looking and black. I recommend going for a real rough industrial metal look keeping with the egalitarian 'communist' image.

Thanks for your honest feedback. I think I got stuck a bit on some of the elements in that design.

Here are my last two attempts to play a bit with the basic idea:


As mentioned, all proposals are available on this flickr:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/116462858@N08/

I will quit working on these for now in order to leave room for some other ideas from other people.

The user earn coins by running a node.
The difference is that timekoin has an infinite number
of coins that can be generated and the there are no fees i think.

I cant find me in the stakeholder list but paid 0.05 BTC whats wrong?

Really cool, but can we get a "flat" version. Like something that would feel at home in iOS. Also, can you make a version without the coin, but just the 8 lines representing NEM? Actually, I was sketching logos last night and came up with the same idea as you, representing NEM with the 8 lines. I think it is the way to go for a logo.

Edit: This was meant as a reply to Patmast3r.

It's a lot of work going through that whole list, and at this point things seem to have slowed down a bit, so perhaps they should ended a bit earlier. Since most people buying a stake now probably bought some before.

There's still a lot of people who don't know about Cryptocurrencies, but have PayPal that I'm trying to talk some people into buying NEM. It's all too complicated for them, but for the price I wouldn't feel right if this coin became popular and they missed out.

So I would suggest to close the registration the way it currently is and only allow new people that have PayPal. That way we get more people new blood into Cryptocurrency through NEM. We would all benefit more that way. And with PayPal a person cannot create multiple accounts. I believe Utopianfuture will probably get to see their real name, perhaps home address.

Wasn't it originally 4,000? Did they say they will end it sooner? Not that I'm complaining.

Any idea when NEM will be released?