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2821  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Jeffrey Epstein finally arrested on Sex-Trafficking Charges [Update] on: July 13, 2019, 03:00:23 AM
Hedge Fund Operators Speculate on Where Epstein's Money came from

(hint: blackmail)

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07/hedge-funders-have-some-thoughts-on-what-epstein-was-doing.html
2822  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Did we actually really land on moon? on: July 13, 2019, 02:54:12 AM
many observers examine the earth, the moon, and some planets bundle and surround the earth the results of the study reveal the earth is not moving but the moving objects or planets around the earth (round earth conclusions)

Well, you and those many observers be right on one of those objects.

Like a broken clock!

Right twice a day!
2823  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Government shouldn't outlaw Private Insurance and Democrats know that on: July 12, 2019, 02:57:24 PM
....

1. "super wealthy" is a relative term.  These are people who have income in the 95 percentile so they are super wealthy relative to most people.  .....

3.  You used the average home price instead of median home price which again is misleading.  The average home price is a pretty meaningless number that is skewed by ultra high value homes.  If anything, it would be most appropriate to use a "entry level home price" to figure out if someone can afford to buy a home......


So now you are claiming the "super wealthy" can maybe buy an "entry level home" in the SF area by spending 2/3 to 3/4 of their take home pay.

Let's go look at your prior claim. After I said this:

LOL, at current rates that's about 11,250 per month in NY or CA. Is that enough to buy a house in those areas?

You replied:

Its easily enough to buy a house anywhere.   That amount is precisely enough to buy a median home in the most expensive market of San Francisco.    

Well, which is it? The most expensive market or the "average" market? Looks to me like your "super wealthy" is pretty close to poor. And if he follows your advice, he's chained to a ridiculous mortgage forever and likely winds up dead broke.

Why should anyone follow your advice on the wonderful world of communism?

They'd likely find out the hard way you were grossly mistaken or lying.

You said -

This entire sidetrack is a cherry pick in itself because we are discussing an extreme subset of conditions in rare extreme markets.  The overwhelming majority of this tiny fraction of people earning 300,000 would easily afford a home in most markets. Its all just a distraction and a reach for you to desperately try to prove a point. 

It's YOUR ARGUMENT and YOUR PHRASE "Super wealthy." Live with it.



2824  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Did we actually really land on moon? on: July 12, 2019, 12:52:36 AM
^^^

Quote
I flew north of 78 degrees latitude thus the Earth is a globe.
...

Now, now, please remember to attribute your sources. I think this forum rule does apply even to worthless sources, which is indeed curious.

Actually, you do have a problem with FlatEarthery coexisting with my flying over the N Pole, because it was a subsonic regular commercial jet.

I know how long it took and how far it was, and for the plane to have done this on a in the world of StupidFlat it would have had to be supersonic.

2825  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Did we actually really land on moon? on: July 11, 2019, 11:58:42 PM
...nonsense

Ridicule is not a defense to your arguments.

https://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/22095/do-airlines-fly-directly-over-the-north-pole
2826  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Government shouldn't outlaw Private Insurance and Democrats know that on: July 11, 2019, 11:57:44 PM
You are correct about corruption but wrong about what I would like.  My plan involves reducing the size of the pot and would significantly reduce the amount of money being extracted from the system. ....

And "what you would like' is just about as bad an idea as the many time you've stretched or completely ignored the truth in things you have said here.

Your plan involves increasing taxes, so it involves increasing the pot from which corruption is engendered.

I'll assume that by "corrupt communists" you mean a system that provides everyone with top quality healthcare so I can answer the question.  The answer is the top 5%.  Those who profit off of everyone's health insurance premiums.  
The hordes of deadbeat civil servants? The corrupt officials that scrape their share of the money before anyone else?



 the super wealthy.  We're talking about people who earn more than 300,000 per year.  
LOL, at current rates that's about 11,250 per month in NY or CA.

Is that enough to buy a house in those areas?

And yes.   Its easily enough to buy a house anywhere.   That amount is precisely enough to buy a median home in the most expensive market of San Francisco.    Funny how that works huh?  Its almost as if a lot of thought has been put into coming up with a plan that works for everyone.  

Really? The 11,250 is net take home of 300k / year which is what you call "super wealthy." And you consider that "super wealthy?"


I assume you'd agree with the "conservative model" used in the banking industry that the house payment should not exceed 25% of take home income. That'd be $2812 payment including taxes, interest, and insurance, and PMI.

Please show me examples of houses in the most expensive market of San Francisco for which the monthly payment is $2812 or less. Zillow is fine.  Actually, I think you are just making things up again. Median prices in those neighborhoods are 3-5M. Taking the lower number, 3,000,000 and assuming an interest rate of 4.5%, monthly interest paid would be 11,250. To that you must add principal pay down, insurance, taxes, and PMI.

So you are just lying again, and poorly.

I'm seeing the average house in SF running a mortgage of 6-7000 per month, way outside what someone with a take home pay of 11250 could afford.

Maybe you want to reconsider what you consider "super wealthy?"

And that's the reason nobody should pay any attention to your rosy claims about the wonders of communism. So much of what you say is untrue, why should those things you say about communism be any different?
2827  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Who do you think will win the 2020 election? on: July 11, 2019, 10:06:34 PM

But those back room power brokers, you know, the fat old white guys that are picking out a puppet, the ones that last time picked Hillary, this time who will they pick?

Because they don't care what you or the people want.

Yeah, 'white' guys.  On election day we'll get a choice between two Zionist puppets just like we've had since before Carter.  He's the last guy who even dared ....

You can substitute anything you like for the back room power brokers. Call them white, black, Japanese. I strongly suggest you call them one legged crippled orphans of climate change. Or reptilian alien mutants from Borgville, Cambodia.  By the way, Zionist "puppets" is so passe. How about Zombies of Zion?

There is only one country who gets our top amount of support.  I read that it is something like $40,000 per Israeli.

There is only one country who has an AIPAC who almost all of our politicians bow down to, and it doesn't even have to register as an agent of foreign influence.

There is one country who's enemies the U.S. military is always ready to fight for.  Even when the Israeli military is unwilling to risk their own blood.

If any other country parasitized us 10% of the amount that Zionist Israel does, or controlled 10% as many of our politicians that Zionists do, I would be bothered as an American.  Your deflection might get some traction except for the vast number of in-your-face observations that anyone could make.


So you don't like "one legged crippled orphans of climate change."

Bowing to your obsession with Jewish Jews Jude Zion, I offered "Zombies of Zion."

That's good enough to be a movie.

Now run back to your puppet masters and tell them you want to go modern and stop using 1960s anti-jew polemics. They don't know any better, you see.
2828  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Did we actually really land on moon? on: July 11, 2019, 10:02:24 PM

^^^ The 8,000 mile globe only works when hijacking the math for the angular limit of the human eye i.e. 1 minute to 1 nautical mile....

I recently went from the USA to Asia over the North Pole.

Now how could that be if the Earth was flat?

2829  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Government shouldn't outlaw Private Insurance and Democrats know that on: July 11, 2019, 09:59:53 PM
....
A blanket system that everyone uses with no qualifiers actually reduces the amount of bureaucracy and red tape.  Less corruption because there is no work to be done in regards to finding out how something will be paid for or by who or for whom. 
....
Corruption is based on available corruptables, and you would like a large pot of money there.

It's obviously a target for taking by those who would do so.

2830  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Government shouldn't outlaw Private Insurance and Democrats know that on: July 11, 2019, 11:46:54 AM
I'll assume that by "corrupt communists" you mean a system that provides everyone with top quality healthcare so I can answer the question.  The answer is the top 5%.  Those who profit off of everyone's health insurance premiums.  
The hordes of deadbeat civil servants? The corrupt officials that scrape their share of the money before anyone else?



 the super wealthy.  We're talking about people who earn more than 300,000 per year.  
LOL, at current rates that's about 11,250 per month in NY or CA.

Is that enough to buy a house in those areas?
2831  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Jeffrey Epstein finally arrested on Sex-Trafficking Charges [Update] on: July 11, 2019, 11:40:51 AM
Reality on this very interesting case is that you can give Trump credit for it.

Here's why.

The case WOULD NOT EXIST if Trump had not won the POTUS.

Because if he had not, Hillary would have. And Bill Clinton had over 26 trips on the Lolita Express. No way they would have let that scandal came out.

FLIGHT LOGS OF THE LOLITA EXPRESS!!! HERE THEY ARE!!!

https://archive.org/details/EpsteinFlightLogsLolitaExpress


This is one of the few reasons I have any hope for this man. The moment he got elected meaningful prosecutions for sex trafficking/child trafficking rings started going up significantly and have risen steadily.

From 2011 onwards, Trump barred Epstein from his Mar-a-lago resort due to the guy's sexual assaults.

https://nypost.com/2019/07/09/trump-barred-jeffrey-epstein-from-mar-a-lago-over-sex-assault-court-docs/
2832  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Did we actually really land on moon? on: July 11, 2019, 02:23:16 AM
^^^ I've already pulled the rug out from under you even before the ratio of 1 minute to 1 nautical mile is proven, before the un-refracted size of the Sun/Moon is measured and its distance calculated.

Do you realize where you are?

You came into the FE thread and agreed that 1 degree is ~60 nautical miles, do you not realize that fact has be covered up and you need to back peddle or the Copernican model dies from a direct measurement of the Sun/Moon's diameter?

Well it matters not because I've already trashed the Copernican model with the angular size limit of the human eye, the horizon has to be a physical barrier in your falsified Copernican model. BADecker made a point that the distance to the horizon changes with a change in the limit from a zoom lens, this is not possible if the horizon is a physical barrier.





No formulas exist based on your beliefs which will predict the positions of the sun, or the moon in the future.
No formulas exist based on your beliefs which will predict eclipses, either solar or lunar.

The solution to these issues came with the discovery that the celestial bodies move in elliptical orbits, eg Kepler's three laws of motion.

So I, and people that have studied this math, can predict the future paths of the celestial bodies.

Your beliefs do not provide a way for you to do this. That is called being wrong.

*** BONUS ***

https://astronomy.tools/calculators/field_of_view/
2833  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Government shouldn't outlaw Private Insurance and Democrats know that on: July 10, 2019, 01:25:42 PM
....
If private insurance remained, neglect would be inevitable because the goal of private companies is not to provide the service, but to maximize profits which means provide as little service as possible while collecting as much money as possible. ....

Odd, a lot of public health care systems have a goal of providing as little service as possible while collecting as much money as possible....
Its not odd.  Its what always happens when they have to compete with private companies. ...

Who would want private companies to get in the way of corrupt communists?
2834  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Government shouldn't outlaw Private Insurance and Democrats know that on: July 10, 2019, 12:42:49 AM
....
If private insurance remained, neglect would be inevitable because the goal of private companies is not to provide the service, but to maximize profits which means provide as little service as possible while collecting as much money as possible. ....

Odd, a lot of public health care systems have a goal of providing as little service as possible while collecting as much money as possible....
2835  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Socialism is so bad that it allows poor people to live. Horrible true story on: July 10, 2019, 12:35:38 AM
Unless I'm talking about something new, I almost never cite sources during informal discussion.   I thought it was common knowledge that the US spends more per capita than any other country.  I also thought it was common knowledge that the US has a low life expectancy relative to other countries with similar wealth.  With that said, I admit I have a problem thinking too many things are common knowledge and don't always cite things when sometimes they should be cited.

The problem with TECSHARE is that he doesn't even believe in widely accepted truths.   When I have cited psychology literature, he writes it off because the entire field of psychology is a farce to him.   So is Science.  When you are talking to someone who has  embraces pseudo-science, and simply writes off scientific 97% of scientific citations, there really is no point in citing anything.  There is no getting anywhere really.  To him, anything that doesn't support his point is deconstructive postmodernism grounded in the same ideology that caused a drought in Ukraine almost a century ago.

You really should study up on proper ways to cite literature. It's not to go gung ho in a direction you are already biased on, with one study that seems to support you.

Science doesn't work that way at all.

2836  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Jeffrey Epstein finally arrested on Sex-Trafficking Charges [Update] on: July 10, 2019, 12:31:25 AM
Reality on this very interesting case is that you can give Trump credit for it.

Here's why.

The case WOULD NOT EXIST if Trump had not won the POTUS.

Because if he had not, Hillary would have. And Bill Clinton had over 26 trips on the Lolita Express. No way they would have let that scandal came out.

FLIGHT LOGS OF THE LOLITA EXPRESS!!! HERE THEY ARE!!!

https://archive.org/details/EpsteinFlightLogsLolitaExpress
2837  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Did we actually really land on moon? on: July 10, 2019, 12:24:21 AM
^^^ You'll note that two (2) measurements are required for calculating distance and measuring size along with, the eye's angular resolution limit and viewing height.

One reading (with a sextant) is taken at the horizon (0 degrees) when refraction is at a maximum and, one reading is taken at 90 degrees when refraction is at a minimum (zero refraction).

All you give me to work with is fantasy art made in Photoshop, and an arbitrarily decided apparent size for an imaginary object in an imaginary unbounded space.

Actually, the trig proofs for size and orbital mechanics of the Sun and Moon are irrefutable. That's the nature of a large number of mathematical proofs.

So the discussion really is either about how does NotBat expand his knowledge of trig to where he must accept this, or what parts of science he ignores to retain this position.
2838  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Did we actually really land on moon? on: July 09, 2019, 09:18:01 PM
I'll just leave this here.

1965 scientist claims the moon is plasma - UNCUT | RetroFocus -- https://youtu.be/XhIwZuPGfss

You're leaving off the really good part of the intro text to the video -

The ABC has been unable to confirm Mr Foster’s identity beyond the entry in the production notebook from 1965: “People – Int Tasmanian Professor (FOSTER)”.

We have also been unable to find any documentation of his work.



STOP IT, YOU ARE DOING SOME REAL RESEARCH, HOW DARE YOU? He often does that or miss-quotes people or simply doesn't understand the quotes, like the famous quote he keeps posting about that guy who said they had to Photoshop images of the earth, the idiot doesn't realize that he said that because most images from space are small areas of the earth. I showed him a full image of earth by the russian ''nasa'' and he still denied it.

Really.

Well, Notbat has recently been showing off his trig skills, so I would expect he could estimate the distance out from which the Earth would comprise 30 degrees in the field of view.

The bizarre reliance on Youtube for Truthy is odd.

2839  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Jeffrey Epstein finally arrested on Sex-Trafficking Charges [Update] on: July 09, 2019, 05:38:09 PM
..... best guess is still that involved targets are being offered their 'get out of (social media) jail' option by getting pinned with having gotten a massage from a 17-year-old of the opposite sex.  That's a crime from which most people can recover.....

Is getting a massage from a 17 year old a crime?

It would be an offense in states where massage was licensed, for the person giving it, assuming they were unlicensed.

I'm not buying the implication that a massage = a sexual activity or act or pedo.

Likely there would have to be some associated action or activity that crossed the line into illegal.

Not a crime.  That's the point!  The point is that all of the frequent flyers on the Lolita Express and guests to his creepy honeytrap island, minus a few 'scapegoats', will be found 'guilty' of such a non-crime.

That's my prediction.  My best guess as to the nature and end-game of this psy-op.  That's what it looks like to me based on an initial skim.


No, sorry, that's stretching too many angles for credibility.

I've got no problem with a hard working girl age 17 doing massage.

You've got to connect the dots. "The men paid for what was called a massage but everyone knew it was really sex." etc, etc...
2840  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Did we actually really land on moon? on: July 09, 2019, 05:30:37 PM
I'll just leave this here.

1965 scientist claims the moon is plasma - UNCUT | RetroFocus -- https://youtu.be/XhIwZuPGfss

You're leaving off the really good part of the intro text to the video -

The ABC has been unable to confirm Mr Foster’s identity beyond the entry in the production notebook from 1965: “People – Int Tasmanian Professor (FOSTER)”.

We have also been unable to find any documentation of his work.

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