I question whether it would be o.k....
What does this ok mean exactly? Maybe you do NOT realize that if you are NOT citing the whole quote, then you are citing the quote out of context. Additionally, from your question and from your fragmented, out of context quote, it appears that you are trolling rather than attempting to engage in substantive discussion of anything meaningful. If I misunderstood you, then let me know, and we can start over.. |
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How can you possibly say something and the exact opposite in the next sentence? It amazes me.
"I will take [...] as a signal of your capitulation"; "I am NOT trying to win anything with you".
Geez! Please don't make me look it up in dictionary for you.
O.k. Go cry somewhere else then.. since you have NOT had anything meaningful to add in approximately your last several posts. Look, I'm not taking no orders from you. I'm here to stay, got it? I am ordering you to stay here.... That's an order. You better listen, Serby!!!! You sound like a 12 years old kid. Let the adults do the talking, JayJuanGee.  |
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Well that is up to you if you recognize a potential problem and whether you believe that it needs to be worked on or NOT.... Either way, I am o.k., and it seems that I did misunderstand you, so I take back any harsh feelings that I may have emoted in your direction.
I'm ok. I'm glad you're ok too. I need a hug now. Probably, you are not my type.. so we will just have to virtual hug... or not hug and say that we did.... I think that would be a bear hug, then? |
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A bunch of, like, whatever
Well one thing is building on existing coins or another thing is creating your own coin... which the second really would NOT be appropriate to pursue in this thread; however, the former may be good to discuss ways that BTC may be improved that would help in its adoption in the security realm. Fair point. I'm glad we have you as the final arbiter of what's appropriate. Goodness knows what would get posted in this thread otherwise. If it is a fair point, then why you going all HOSTILITY towards my post or towards me... you know that at least I responded to your previous post, and I attempted to figure out what your link was about.. more or less... Oh, how did this happen again? After last time I promised myself I wouldn't demean myself by engaging with it. I wasn't being serious. It wasn't a fair point, that was me being ironical. In your defence, it's not the first time that's got me into trouble. You've no idea how often people think I'm being mean to my wife, for example. (They're only right a small proportion of the time.) Basically I'm a bad person and you shouldn't talk to me. Well that is up to you if you recognize a potential problem and whether you believe that it needs to be worked on or NOT.... Either way, I am o.k., and it seems that I did misunderstand you, so I take back any harsh feelings that I may have emoted in your direction. |
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I am an permabull. I know the value of the technology, I know the VC money being pumped in, I know the value of having control over your own money. However I would love to see the price tank down in to the $300's for a completely and utterly selfish buying opportunity.
I'm a bull in a bear suit. I want more cheap coins. I bought more in the $460s last night and I would LOVE a trip to the $300s. Hell, give me $260. I'll buy em all.  Sometimes it is NOT for your own good to get your wish... Do you realize that? I question whether it would be o.k. for Bitcoin prices to dive down into the $300s or $200s |
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How can you possibly say something and the exact opposite in the next sentence? It amazes me.
"I will take [...] as a signal of your capitulation"; "I am NOT trying to win anything with you".
Geez! Please don't make me look it up in dictionary for you.
O.k. Go cry somewhere else then.. since you have NOT had anything meaningful to add in approximately your last several posts. Look, I'm not taking no orders from you. I'm here to stay, got it? I am ordering you to stay here.... That's an order. You better listen, Serby!!!! |
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Yep.. I noticed that too... Risto can be a little bit pompously irritating from time to time - even if he may be dropping some otherwise decent data and/or historical perspective.
Oh please. Do you know how many people he's hurt with his "decent data and/or historical perspective?" You do know he thought BTC would be at $10k back in late 2011/early 2012 right? And was actively promoting such stupidity? nope he said that BTC would be at $100K in 2013 I remember that crystal clear, and only delusional noobs that couldn't reach anything in life believe's him and become totally blind because of that. I didn't see a single technical analyze that he claim to be good at... even the number of users/holders and adoption rate that he claim that he can calculate is pulled out of his ass, I would love to see him explaining where he gets the numbers from, I did math for a good part of my life so I am sure I would understand or at least try to  Risto may be a little looney and crazy from time to time, but you are NOT even in the same league. You are like in pee wee T-ball league, and he is in the professional league (or close to it).. much differences between the analysis that two of you tend to provide, at least from what I have read. And, part of the problem is that you are too blinded to see your own various blatant deficiencies.. including your frequently occurring lack of decent communication skills.. and inability to control your emotions and frequently getting both defensive and offensive. By the way, I am NOT conceding that I agree with the various TAs that Risto posts or his conclusions or what I perceive to be his over reliance on math.. but he tends to do a fairly decent job of justifying and defending his TAs based on math. Actually, as I am writing through this, I have a problem with so much reliance on math to cause rosey pictures, but that is another issue that is beyond the point that I am wanting to make here about you, mmitech and risto being in different categories of Bitcoin communication skills.
this is just for you You are so, communicative, creative and verbally expressive, Well, maybe this is better communication than your usual posts...    NOT.  |
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A bunch of, like, whatever
Well one thing is building on existing coins or another thing is creating your own coin... which the second really would NOT be appropriate to pursue in this thread; however, the former may be good to discuss ways that BTC may be improved that would help in its adoption in the security realm. Fair point. I'm glad we have you as the final arbiter of what's appropriate. Goodness knows what would get posted in this thread otherwise. You would think that it is funny.... you, you , you ... bear troll ... ... opportunistic switcher (in other words traitor - bear gone bull gone short-term bear - and planning to return to bull as soon as the conditions are right) |
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A bunch of, like, whatever
Well one thing is building on existing coins or another thing is creating your own coin... which the second really would NOT be appropriate to pursue in this thread; however, the former may be good to discuss ways that BTC may be improved that would help in its adoption in the security realm. Fair point. I'm glad we have you as the final arbiter of what's appropriate. Goodness knows what would get posted in this thread otherwise. If it is a fair point, then why you going all HOSTILITY towards my post or towards me... you know that at least I responded to your previous post, and I attempted to figure out what your link was about.. more or less... And, actually, as you likely realize, this particular thread has been quite open and quasi-unmodified due to the liberal concepts of relevancy of seemingly Adam.. and possibly, the forum has allowed this thread to be the sort of dump-all thread........ Yet, I know that there are various other threads on alt coins, so the discussions on alt coins within this thread do NOT seem to take place too much - at least as far as I have seen.. . |
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My goodness the drivel on this thread is remarkable. It reminds me why I left.
So why don't you contribute something then? Did, earlier today. Rather interesting paper on anonymity in the context of Risto switching his affections to Monero. Point was that Monero suffers from unsustainable blockchain bloat and until they fix it, it can't go anywhere. Teleport seems to offer a new approach to anonymity that avoids the problems of ring signatures and mixing. Asked for feedback since privacy is a big deal and the coin that nails it will do well. No one gave any. LINK!!!! or it didn't happen... You spend your life on these boards so I'm surprised you missed it. Still, so you can ignore it again: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg8346727#msg8346727Note that I asked for considered, meaningful feedback, which was perhaps why I didn't get any. I remember seeing the link, but I did NOT click on it the first time. I have a hard enough time reading thread posts and keeping up with other things in my life. As you suggested, I have been spending quite a bit of time on the forum recently, but I do have a life outside of the threads, as well. Regarding the substance of your paper, it looks like a very well written paper.. at least the parts that I browsed through - of course it is 36 pages, and i am NOT a technical expert in the BTC space so I am NOT sure if I could give a meaningful and/or in depth discussion .. yet are you suggesting some of the privacy features of Monero, for example, could be brought to bitcoin through teleport technologies? No. Well one thing is building on existing coins or another thing is creating your own coin... which the second really would NOT be appropriate to pursue in this thread; however, the former may be good to discuss ways that BTC may be improved that would help in its adoption in the security realm. |
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My goodness the drivel on this thread is remarkable. It reminds me why I left.
So why don't you contribute something then? Did, earlier today. Rather interesting paper on anonymity in the context of Risto switching his affections to Monero. Point was that Monero suffers from unsustainable blockchain bloat and until they fix it, it can't go anywhere. Teleport seems to offer a new approach to anonymity that avoids the problems of ring signatures and mixing. Asked for feedback since privacy is a big deal and the coin that nails it will do well. No one gave any. LINK!!!! or it didn't happen... You spend your life on these boards so I'm surprised you missed it. Still, so you can ignore it again: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg8346727#msg8346727Note that I asked for considered, meaningful feedback, which was perhaps why I didn't get any. I remember seeing the link, but I did NOT click on it the first time. I have a hard enough time reading thread posts and keeping up with other things in my life. As you suggested, I have been spending quite a bit of time on the forum recently, but I do have a life outside of the threads, as well. Regarding the substance of your paper, it looks like a very well written paper.. at least the parts that I browsed through - of course it is 36 pages, and i am NOT a technical expert in the BTC space so I am NOT sure if I could give a meaningful and/or in depth discussion .. yet are you suggesting some of the privacy features of Monero, for example, could be brought to bitcoin through teleport technologies? |
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How can you possibly say something and the exact opposite in the next sentence? It amazes me.
"I will take [...] as a signal of your capitulation"; "I am NOT trying to win anything with you".
Geez! Please don't make me look it up in dictionary for you.
O.k. Go cry somewhere else then.. since you have NOT had anything meaningful to add in approximately your last several posts. |
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"Sigh, I see we can't have a reasonable conversation without insulting each other on the internet."
Call me the bad guy.
Now seriously, when you said "I am not talking about what unknown coin is out there", how can you possibly base you argument on the fact that you simply "were stating that in [my] post that [you] replied to, mentioned that...".
I don't see what you're talking about right now. Get your facts straight.
I'm not calling you a bad guy... You said ""A child's toy in the future will put to shame the combined might of all the computers on earth right now" To which I understood as"something unknown is out there that will be the next big thing" To which I replied "I am not talking about an Unknown coin or anything that will be the next big thing" I'm not sure what you are trying to get at? probably he is NOT getting at anything and he seems liek a troller goofball that does NOT really have anything meaningful or substantive to contribute and is merely just engaging in diversion tactics. |
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My goodness the drivel on this thread is remarkable. It reminds me why I left.
So why don't you contribute something then? Did, earlier today. Rather interesting paper on anonymity in the context of Risto switching his affections to Monero. Point was that Monero suffers from unsustainable blockchain bloat and until they fix it, it can't go anywhere. Teleport seems to offer a new approach to anonymity that avoids the problems of ring signatures and mixing. Asked for feedback since privacy is a big deal and the coin that nails it will do well. No one gave any. LINK!!!! or it didn't happen... |
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TL;DR letīs get back to WALL OBSERVING plz  Yes sir (or ma'am): BTC prices went down to $497 this morning on Bitstamp, and currently hovering in the $521 arena. The major question remains whether $497 was the bottom or whether we are going to revisit $497. I tend to think that there will be attempts to revisit $497... at least through this coming weekend.. This low point will be difficult to maintain.. with increases in volume being apparent.. maybe we will see prices break into the $480s... and then maybe next week we could rally into the upper $500s, if NOT further. 520 was the last resist before the 450- level, see the 1 day chart on bitstamp. Now that it is lost we won't be able to avoid the fall. Really? I thought that price movement was probabilities rather than certainties... Accordingly, in my above post, i made my prediction about what I think will probably happen. Hope that I am correct - although I do NOT have a very good record, to date.   |
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Your comment seems to imply that I am (or others) are motivated to hate on Risto b/c of his wealth. I could give a flying rats ass about his wealth... I just have a problem with flaunting or outward attempts to lord over these kinds of things.
On the other hand, sometimes material possessions, enjoyment of life or investment prowess may be a topic of discussion or somehow relevant to the topic at hand, and in those cases, it may be good to illustrate with personal examples regarding wealth accumulation or investment choices or consumption decisions.
So, it could be possible that you are misreading my articulation of my perceptions regarding the sometimes flaunting inclinations of Risto......
I wasn't trying to imply that you feel this way, I was just making a point that it could be that some people resent him just because of the wealth alone. But I do think some of his perceived "pompous" posts is just his sense of humor perhaps. The strange thing about message boards is that emotions and even humor is difficult to convey. We can throw up a few smiley faces here and there but unless you are sitting with a person face to face the true meaning can often be lost. Regardless, Risto could be drinking his wine in his castle and ignoring these threads completely. I am surprised he even posts on here most of the time. I think he has thicker skin than I do. Granted, he is smarter than I am in that he does avoid some topics (like religion) that I will discuss that causes even more drama on here!!!  Agreed!!! writing versus in person are different when it comes to communicating tone.. including jokes... and sometimes jokes could be mistaken.. We agree.... MMMMMUUUUUAAAACCCHHHH....  I hope BTCHus does NOT jealous? |
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TL;DR letīs get back to WALL OBSERVING plz Yes sir (or ma'am): BTC prices went down to $497 this morning on Bitstamp, and currently hovering in the $521 arena. The major question remains whether $497 was the bottom or whether we are going to revisit $497. I tend to think that there will be attempts to revisit $497... at least through this coming weekend.. This low point will be difficult to maintain.. with increases in volume being apparent.. maybe we will see prices break into the $480s... and then maybe next week we could rally into the upper $500s, if NOT further. |
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Risto may be a little looney and crazy from time to time, but you are NOT even in the same league... No one who hasn't been committed to a mental hospital is "in the same league." HELLO.... get back to substance.. you are getting into ad hominem attacks, when my post referred to substantive things such as communication skills and presentation. We do NOT know the personal lives of most people in these threads, and it tends NOT to be too relevant, except for limited circumstances. |
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Yep.. I noticed that too... Risto can be a little bit pompously irritating from time to time... Nah!  I believe that quote was from me, and NOT from Bitchick... so it was quoted out of context. And, I do NOT find this picture as pompous and irritating... it is cool and good to show these lavish images. When I talk about pompous and irritating, it is a communication thing.. and words that Risto may chose to use when communicating with someone newer to the bitcoin community or less bitcoin endowed.... communications like that. |
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Final capitulations are the sweetest buying opportunities. You would probably never have heard of me, unless I happened to analyze the fundamentals and charts for month, before buying in at the final capitulation of 2011. The more ppl speak like you (and the less they speak like me ) the better, because that much closer to the bottom we are. But real tough guys can make the decision without sentiment analysis as well as with it. I hardly knew about the forums back then, even my account is from 2012. It is the new money that will raise the price to new levels. They are still waiting. What can you do but wait? Next room to me now, there is a guy who takes jacuzzi every day and smokes cigars. He held through the bubble, and the fall, and the capitulation (of 2011) and ever since. His friends sold out in the downtrend and said they will come back if/when the tide turns. They never did. They are probably working now. Bitcoin does not care if you make money or not. Also I don't care. I know there are enough people in the world who understand reasonable speech, and gravitate into Bitcoin in waves. And if bitcoin is foiled, now we have Monero, so there is a real backup, vainly sought after for 2-3 years. The waiters came to ask what I want for breakfast, and roasted liver with red wine sounded like nice. Thank you for listening.  I like what you did there, pouring oil on fire I beg to disagree Casually dropping some info about your at-noon breakfast of roasted liver with wine, in the middle of a capitulation that'll cost quite a few investors dearly, is the real oil-on-fire. Which is why I got the Marie Antoinette association. Yep.. I noticed that too... Risto can be a little bit pompously irritating from time to time - even if he may be dropping some otherwise decent data and/or historical perspective. I think Risto's point is that we can all "eat cake" too is we just hold and don't panic (or buy during this great opportunities to do so if possible). Maybe I am strange but I find his words quite comforting. To be able to drink a glass of wine with no worries to what Bitcoin is doing at the present impressive, especially when it is so easy to get emotional about it. But I am admittedly a huge fan of Risto. Of all the people on the thread he has been the most helpful to me, and generous too. There is NOTHING wrong with being appreciative of the contributions of Risto or anyone else for that matter, and I get your point that he may have NOT meant to be pompous in his presentation of that situation. NONETHELESS, he does have some flaws... especially in the hooty-tooty tone arena... from time to time... Having said all that, I appreciate his contributions, too.... but I also think that it helps for the survival of bitcoin to have people like Risto (who have profited in the past from BTC) to invest back in to BTC in order to help build a better and stronger BTC infrastructure in order that newcomers can become acquainted and comfortable with BTC space. If and when we have castles of our own how will people react to us? Will they think we are pompous jerks just because of that alone? I think sometimes just being wealthy, successful, or in a different situation in life is enough to cause envy and see things that are not necessarily there, or can be construed to be that way. For example, I live in a pretty wealthy area in California, but would still be considered "middle class." I find that those that are wealthy are often considered "pompous" just because they have nice houses and cars. Some even consider my husband and I "rich" and although it seems totally ridiculous to us, think we are "snobby" because of where we live. Of course we know in our neighborhood we are just average. But I have learned that we see others through our own lens of our experiences and we need to step back and consider where the other person is coming from. That said, I don't think Risto is ever really trying to be pompous. He may have a little fun with the successes he has had and post a comment here and there about it, but I think his heart is one that wants to encourage us not to "throw in the towel" so to speak and hold on or buy more coins and try to see the big picture. He has been in this a bit longer than many of us have and has reaped the rewards that could well be ours too if we just show a little patience and self-control. Your comment seems to imply that I am (or others) are motivated to hate on Risto b/c of his wealth. I could give a flying rats ass about his wealth... I just have a problem with flaunting or outward attempts to lord over these kinds of things. On the other hand, sometimes material possessions, enjoyment of life or investment prowess may be a topic of discussion or somehow relevant to the topic at hand, and in those cases, it may be good to illustrate with personal examples regarding wealth accumulation or investment choices or consumption decisions. So, it could be possible that you are misreading my articulation of my perceptions regarding the sometimes flaunting inclinations of Risto...... |
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