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[JayJuanGee]

My goodness the drivel on this thread is remarkable. It reminds me why I left.

So why don't you contribute something then?

Did, earlier today. Rather interesting paper on anonymity in the context of Risto switching his affections to Monero. Point was that Monero suffers from unsustainable blockchain bloat and until they fix it, it can't go anywhere. Teleport seems to offer a new approach to anonymity that avoids the problems of ring signatures and mixing. Asked for feedback since privacy is a big deal and the coin that nails it will do well. No one gave any.

LINK!!!! or it didn't happen... 

You spend your life on these boards so I'm surprised you missed it. Still, so you can ignore it again:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg8346727#msg8346727

Note that I asked for considered, meaningful feedback, which was perhaps why I didn't get any.

I remember seeing the link, but I did NOT click on it the first time.  I have a hard enough time reading thread posts and keeping up with other things in my life.  As you suggested, I have been spending quite a bit of time on the forum recently, but I do have a life outside of the threads, as well.

Regarding the substance of your paper, it looks like a very well written paper.. at least the parts that I browsed through - of course it is 36 pages, and i am NOT a technical expert in the BTC space so I am NOT sure if I could give a meaningful and/or in depth discussion .. yet are you suggesting some of the privacy features of Monero, for example, could be brought to bitcoin through teleport technologies?

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[criptix]

i wish this dumping would go on till the end of the weekend, actually im praying for it  

we gonna see big rally after this.

/edit

i voted neutral, but defnitly bullish now 

[Cassius]

My goodness the drivel on this thread is remarkable. It reminds me why I left.

So why don't you contribute something then?

Did, earlier today. Rather interesting paper on anonymity in the context of Risto switching his affections to Monero. Point was that Monero suffers from unsustainable blockchain bloat and until they fix it, it can't go anywhere. Teleport seems to offer a new approach to anonymity that avoids the problems of ring signatures and mixing. Asked for feedback since privacy is a big deal and the coin that nails it will do well. No one gave any.

LINK!!!! or it didn't happen... 

You spend your life on these boards so I'm surprised you missed it. Still, so you can ignore it again:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg8346727#msg8346727

Note that I asked for considered, meaningful feedback, which was perhaps why I didn't get any.

I remember seeing the link, but I did NOT click on it the first time.  I have a hard enough time reading thread posts and keeping up with other things in my life.  As you suggested, I have been spending quite a bit of time on the forum recently, but I do have a life outside of the threads, as well.

Regarding the substance of your paper, it looks like a very well written paper.. at least the parts that I browsed through - of course it is 36 pages, and i am NOT a technical expert in the BTC space so I am NOT sure if I could give a meaningful and/or in depth discussion .. yet are you suggesting some of the privacy features of Monero, for example, could be brought to bitcoin through teleport technologies?

No.

[DubFX]

i wish this dumping would go on till the end of the weekend, actually im praying for it 

we gonna see big rally after this.

But what if we will see even more dumping after this, do you also pray for that?

[criptix]

i wish this dumping would go on till the end of the weekend, actually im praying for it  

we gonna see big rally after this.

But what if we will see even more dumping after this, do you also pray for that?

im definitly bullish now, ergo if dumping continues it is just a big chance to load up on ammo.

i would only start to panic when we reach 400.


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@anon

moneros biggest problem is the blockchain bloating, if they dont fix it somehow, monero wont have a future.
just look at transaction amount and blockchain size.

teleporting - if it exactly works like james is saying - will be the future, even for bitcoin

[torshammer]

Actually, the teleporting being developed by BTCD will be able to be used by any coin for a small fee.

If you are at all interested in anon - especially if you are currently investing in anons -  you really need to read the teleporting Darkpaper. It steps completely outside the box of all anon solutions proposed so far.

The DarkPaper:

http://www.flipgorilla.com/p/23023990364728535/show#/23023990364728535/0

[amit123]

below 500$.... that was unexpected. So much happened while I was offline ..! lets see if things change now while I'm back online.. !

[JayJuanGee]

My goodness the drivel on this thread is remarkable. It reminds me why I left.

So why don't you contribute something then?

Did, earlier today. Rather interesting paper on anonymity in the context of Risto switching his affections to Monero. Point was that Monero suffers from unsustainable blockchain bloat and until they fix it, it can't go anywhere. Teleport seems to offer a new approach to anonymity that avoids the problems of ring signatures and mixing. Asked for feedback since privacy is a big deal and the coin that nails it will do well. No one gave any.

LINK!!!! or it didn't happen... 

You spend your life on these boards so I'm surprised you missed it. Still, so you can ignore it again:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg8346727#msg8346727

Note that I asked for considered, meaningful feedback, which was perhaps why I didn't get any.

I remember seeing the link, but I did NOT click on it the first time.  I have a hard enough time reading thread posts and keeping up with other things in my life.  As you suggested, I have been spending quite a bit of time on the forum recently, but I do have a life outside of the threads, as well.

Regarding the substance of your paper, it looks like a very well written paper.. at least the parts that I browsed through - of course it is 36 pages, and i am NOT a technical expert in the BTC space so I am NOT sure if I could give a meaningful and/or in depth discussion .. yet are you suggesting some of the privacy features of Monero, for example, could be brought to bitcoin through teleport technologies?

No.

Well one thing is building on existing coins or another thing is creating your own coin... which the second really would NOT be appropriate to pursue in this thread; however, the former may be good to discuss ways that BTC may be improved that would help in its adoption in the security realm.

[Cassius]

A bunch of, like, whatever

Well one thing is building on existing coins or another thing is creating your own coin... which the second really would NOT be appropriate to pursue in this thread; however, the former may be good to discuss ways that BTC may be improved that would help in its adoption in the security realm.

Fair point. I'm glad we have you as the final arbiter of what's appropriate. Goodness knows what would get posted in this thread otherwise.

[fonzie]

A bunch of, like, whatever

Well one thing is building on existing coins or another thing is creating your own coin... which the second really would NOT be appropriate to pursue in this thread; however, the former may be good to discuss ways that BTC may be improved that would help in its adoption in the security realm.

Fair point. I'm glad we have you as the final arbiter of what's appropriate. Goodness knows what would get posted in this thread otherwise.

 

[Sandia]

Most bullish sign that you can hope to see: newbie users on Reddit are asking how to short btc. 2 threads on first page of /r/bitcoinmarkets, more scattered in the daily discussion threads.

When the dumb money takes a position, it is reversal time. A leveraged position, no less.

I can smell a short squeeze coming down the road.

[JayJuanGee]

A bunch of, like, whatever

Well one thing is building on existing coins or another thing is creating your own coin... which the second really would NOT be appropriate to pursue in this thread; however, the former may be good to discuss ways that BTC may be improved that would help in its adoption in the security realm.

Fair point. I'm glad we have you as the final arbiter of what's appropriate. Goodness knows what would get posted in this thread otherwise.

If it is a fair point, then why you going all HOSTILITY towards my post or towards me... you know that at least I responded to your previous post, and I attempted to figure out what your link was about.. more or less...

And, actually, as you likely realize, this particular thread has been quite open and quasi-unmodified due to the liberal concepts of relevancy of seemingly Adam.. and possibly, the forum has allowed this thread to be the sort of dump-all thread........ Yet, I know that there are various other threads on alt coins, so the discussions on alt coins within this thread do NOT seem to take place too much - at least as far as I have seen.. .

[kodtycoon]

Most bullish sign that you can hope to see: newbie users on Reddit are asking how to short btc. 2 threads on first page of /r/bitcoinmarkets, more scattered in the daily discussion threads.

When the dumb money takes a position, it is reversal time. A leveraged position, no less.

I can smell a short squeeze coming down the road.

oh thats an evil move lol

[mmitech]

Yep.. I noticed that too... Risto can be a little bit pompously irritating from time to time - even if he may be dropping some otherwise decent data and/or historical perspective.

Oh please. Do you know how many people he's hurt with his "decent data and/or historical perspective?" You do know he thought BTC would be at $10k back in late 2011/early 2012 right? And was actively promoting such stupidity?

nope he said that BTC would be at $100K in 2013 I remember that crystal clear, and only delusional noobs that couldn't reach anything in life believe's him and become totally blind because of that. I didn't see a single technical analyze that he claim to be good at... even the number of users/holders and adoption rate that he claim that he can calculate is pulled out of his ass, I would love to see him explaining where he gets the numbers from, I did math for a good part of my life so I am sure I would understand or at least try to  

Risto may be a little looney and crazy from time to time, but you are NOT even in the same league.  You are like in pee wee T-ball league, and he is in the professional league (or close to it).. much differences between the analysis that two of you tend to provide, at least from what I have read.  And, part of the problem is that you are too blinded to see your own various blatant deficiencies.. including your frequently occurring lack of decent communication skills.. and inability to control your emotions and frequently getting both defensive and offensive.

By the way, I am NOT conceding that I agree with the various TAs that Risto posts or his conclusions or what I perceive to be his over reliance on math.. but he tends to do a fairly decent job of justifying and defending his TAs based on math.  Actually, as I am writing through this, I have a problem with so much reliance on math to cause rosey pictures, but that is another issue that is beyond the point that I am wanting to make here about you, mmitech and risto being in different categories of Bitcoin communication skills.

this is just for you

[JayJuanGee]

A bunch of, like, whatever

Well one thing is building on existing coins or another thing is creating your own coin... which the second really would NOT be appropriate to pursue in this thread; however, the former may be good to discuss ways that BTC may be improved that would help in its adoption in the security realm.

Fair point. I'm glad we have you as the final arbiter of what's appropriate. Goodness knows what would get posted in this thread otherwise.

 

You would think that it is funny.... you, you , you ...  bear troll ... ... opportunistic switcher   (in other words traitor - bear gone bull gone short-term bear - and planning to return to bull as soon as the conditions are right)   

[hyphymikey]

I don't see us moving sideways at these prices. We're going to move up or down soon in a big way, hopefully straight into my bids. Either way I'm ready.

Whenever somebody says this... sideways happens

Oh really? Is that why we dropped nearly $50?

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[JayJuanGee]

Yep.. I noticed that too... Risto can be a little bit pompously irritating from time to time - even if he may be dropping some otherwise decent data and/or historical perspective.

Oh please. Do you know how many people he's hurt with his "decent data and/or historical perspective?" You do know he thought BTC would be at $10k back in late 2011/early 2012 right? And was actively promoting such stupidity?

nope he said that BTC would be at $100K in 2013 I remember that crystal clear, and only delusional noobs that couldn't reach anything in life believe's him and become totally blind because of that. I didn't see a single technical analyze that he claim to be good at... even the number of users/holders and adoption rate that he claim that he can calculate is pulled out of his ass, I would love to see him explaining where he gets the numbers from, I did math for a good part of my life so I am sure I would understand or at least try to  

Risto may be a little looney and crazy from time to time, but you are NOT even in the same league.  You are like in pee wee T-ball league, and he is in the professional league (or close to it).. much differences between the analysis that two of you tend to provide, at least from what I have read.  And, part of the problem is that you are too blinded to see your own various blatant deficiencies.. including your frequently occurring lack of decent communication skills.. and inability to control your emotions and frequently getting both defensive and offensive.

By the way, I am NOT conceding that I agree with the various TAs that Risto posts or his conclusions or what I perceive to be his over reliance on math.. but he tends to do a fairly decent job of justifying and defending his TAs based on math.  Actually, as I am writing through this, I have a problem with so much reliance on math to cause rosey pictures, but that is another issue that is beyond the point that I am wanting to make here about you, mmitech and risto being in different categories of Bitcoin communication skills.

this is just for you

You are so, communicative, creative and verbally expressive,



Well, maybe this is better communication than your usual posts...           



NOT.     

[Argwai96]

I am an permabull. I know the value of the technology, I know the VC money being pumped in, I know the value of having control over your own money. However I would love to see the price tank down in to the $300's for a completely and utterly selfish buying opportunity.

I'm a bull in a bear suit. I want more cheap coins. I bought more in the $460s last night and I would LOVE a trip to the $300s. Hell, give me $260. I'll buy em all.

[mmitech]

Yep.. I noticed that too... Risto can be a little bit pompously irritating from time to time - even if he may be dropping some otherwise decent data and/or historical perspective.

Oh please. Do you know how many people he's hurt with his "decent data and/or historical perspective?" You do know he thought BTC would be at $10k back in late 2011/early 2012 right? And was actively promoting such stupidity?

nope he said that BTC would be at $100K in 2013 I remember that crystal clear, and only delusional noobs that couldn't reach anything in life believe's him and become totally blind because of that. I didn't see a single technical analyze that he claim to be good at... even the number of users/holders and adoption rate that he claim that he can calculate is pulled out of his ass, I would love to see him explaining where he gets the numbers from, I did math for a good part of my life so I am sure I would understand or at least try to  

Risto may be a little looney and crazy from time to time, but you are NOT even in the same league.  You are like in pee wee T-ball league, and he is in the professional league (or close to it).. much differences between the analysis that two of you tend to provide, at least from what I have read.  And, part of the problem is that you are too blinded to see your own various blatant deficiencies.. including your frequently occurring lack of decent communication skills.. and inability to control your emotions and frequently getting both defensive and offensive.

By the way, I am NOT conceding that I agree with the various TAs that Risto posts or his conclusions or what I perceive to be his over reliance on math.. but he tends to do a fairly decent job of justifying and defending his TAs based on math.  Actually, as I am writing through this, I have a problem with so much reliance on math to cause rosey pictures, but that is another issue that is beyond the point that I am wanting to make here about you, mmitech and risto being in different categories of Bitcoin communication skills.

this is just for you

You are so, communicative, creative and verbally expressive,

Well, maybe this is better communication than your usual posts...        

NOT.  

this means I cant waste my time typing words and figuring a way so a retard like you would understand, this picture does it...but who am I kidding, I know that you still don't get it.