again, that beast is really insistent isn't it   can't let go  |
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meine rede |
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Is jetz heut das "Nebentreffen"? Ich spüre nicht gerade die Macht erzittern vor Resonanz diesbezüglich.  |
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ah su, so ein zufall, doch so 'ne kleine welt  |
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Why a new logo? Is it because it has to look more "simple" and "modern", like this?  |
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do you really think a globally targeted currency with demurrage is a good idea @maaku?
Demurrage is intended to fuel consumption, and in this day and age of overproduction, planned obsolescence and discussion about sustainability, this sets the wrong signal.
As said before, demurrage may make sense for a regional currencies as this would result in more local economic cycles, which has all kinds of ecological benefits. But when the currency is global, this positive effect is gone and will probably result in a consumer-ish slave-like lifestyle not much different to today.
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seit wann braucht da jede lokale gruppe ne extra eigenbezeichnung doodle braucht man übrigens eh weil meetup.com zwar viel bietet aber ne vernünftige terminabstimmung eben nich (last time i checkz0red zumindest). |
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your prove his point, it's not as busy as here |
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Ich glaub die lieben Chefpiraten wurden mal zur Seite genommen, und es wurde ihnen mal gesagt wie's läuft, wie man so unter Männern Politik macht, und was da alles in den Geheimarchiven und so, und wer da alles mit wem... Und dass man dem Volk nicht alles zumuten kann und so, weil wir ja die Wahrheit nicht verkraften würden, da gäb's ja dann Unruhen und das alles.
Wie sagte schon dereinst Friedrich Wilhelm I.:
"Es ist dem Untertanen untersagt, den Maßstab seiner beschränkten Einsicht an die Entscheidungen der Obrigkeit zu legen."
Und so soll es auch bleiben bittschön! Wo kämen wir da sonst auch hin!
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I see that there was possibility to include message with transaction. What happened to that?
Would probably be abused and spam and bloat up the blockchain right? |
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still will take a while until pirate has laundered them all |
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joa, akolapyptiker oder sowas bin ich ja schon immer bzgl des geldsystems, bisher hat sich ja kein fiat-system lange gehalten, ist ja fakt auch.  gleich mal geshared auf diaspora auch, dankeschön. au ja, ein "nebentreffen", sehr fein, immer gerne. |
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I'm sure I read the name earlier already and just thought it was another centralized e-cash business. I'm also sure I saw the proposal on http://area51.stackexchange.com/ in early 2011 but it didn't click for me either. I guess I thought it's just a virtual currency system for games. I read mining and I thought it must have to do with World of Warcraft or something.  Then a certain German alpha blogger, who pretends to be an old hipster but is so conform and authoritarian on many things, posted around May/June 2011 something like it must be a ponzi. This got me curious because I believe this guy is often quite wrong. And I was right with my impression. |
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I also believe Freicoin would have trouble to catch on. Von Mises said something along the lines that a commodity-based currency would have to be a good store of value first before becoming a medium of exchange. In that light, it can't compete against Bitcoin. Much like most other blockchains and forks, it will probably not gain significant value in order to become stable enough for its intended use. Some regional currencies work with demurrage. This is to encourage spending the regional currency rather than the national currency and to push the local economy, and it works well. But it works because exchanging the regional currency back to the national currency is formally disallowed for consumers. Thus this is an authoritarian rule that cannot be implemented into a system like Freicoin. I also don't agree with the notion that demurrage doesn't hurt the 99% as much like the 1%. Of course it does, it's basically much like today. The rich have plenty of options and room to switch to other assets. It's better than inflation though, because employees don't have to renegotiate their salaries anew all the time. That said, all my nasty criticisms aside, I'd love to be proven wrong... I'm of course curious and welcome all initiatives to replace today's monetary system. |
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You're conflating the two points I wanted to keep separate, money as information and money as a unit in itself having value.
Maybe you're wondering how this information would be quantifiable without being target of speculation. Some local exchange systems (and also Ripple) use "hours of unskilled labor" for example (it's just an agreement, the rate against hours of other labor can individually be fluctuating, so it's a free market), but many other approaches are imaginable.
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that's what i said myself more or less :·>
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