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2841  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: 8 out of the 15 top marketcaps are not mineable! on: November 25, 2014, 09:58:45 AM
you have a very distinctive view on the markets there. I beg to differ from this observation. Just the today's picture taken to clearify, starting with the

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Crypto-Currency Market Capitalizations
24 Hour Volume Rankings

we have 533 Currencies / 35 Assets / 1695 Markets
with a total Market Cap: $ 5,997,598,062 / 24h Vol: $ 45,458,340

82.98 % of all trades are done in Bitcoin vs. Anything, that is $ 37,722,936 in Volume
8.88 % Litecoins, $ 4,037,171 in Volume
100 % - 82.98 % - 8.88 % = 8.14 % left for everything else

That is by far less then 8 out of the 15 which somewhat makes it sound like more than half

Admittingly I usually only watch currencies/views/filter-non-mineable-and-premined/ since there might 30,881,360,458 Ripples be in existence, and they roll out more every day (your picture from 2 days ago shown only 28,989,252,282 XRP so they printed 1,892,108,176 more in 48 hours) but who buys them? To be honest at the moment I have to read some more about Ripple. According to Ripples knowledge_center/bridge-currency/
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There is no requirement that Ripple users hold or exchange XRP, aside from the negligible reserve amount. Ripple is currency agnostic. Merchants do not need to accept XRP to use Ripple. Both buyers and sellers can continue to use their preferred currencies.

disclaimer: on the long I like to prefere POS myself, seeing POW mining as a waste. A new concept is very much welcome! A currency agnostic "XRP has great value as a bridge currency " that I do not have to buy to use seems intriguing, too.

PS: had posted about POW electricity costs, placed in relation to daily trade volume to explain why Bitcoin goes down in value steadily. If interested can link to that posting or crosspost here. I cannot explain why XRP coin supply goes up steadily, you might want to ask Alan Greenspan
2842  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin has reached the tipping point on: November 24, 2014, 10:26:12 AM
Bitcoin price does not hamper its function. Bitcoin is doing just fine.

Except that people cannot mine it no more at home. Which is probably the reason why we are dabbling in Altcoins here.

Price merely follows that effect. Other impacts on the price decline might be caused by that notorious shortage of Silkroads out there, getting busted on a fixed shedule now. So any predictions of 1000 dollars at Xmas are outdated, obviously.
2843  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: CANN - Cannabiscoin is over, thread locked that's a nono on: November 24, 2014, 08:55:27 AM
at some point CannabisCoinDev was banned from posting as a result of posting in english in a foreign language section.

Hitten on the Français section, gotten mistaken as an Englishman? Dieu me pardonne...

Let's ban them all for this ... offence Roll Eyes also ernsthaft jetzt, so geht's halt net.

2844  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Opinion: Why Ripple/XRP Doubled In Value in Less Than A Week on: November 24, 2014, 02:31:04 AM
I understand your view and it might be a wise investment in the future but I do not like the fact that ripple labs can play god with the market whenever they want, without supervison and without telling anyone.

Actually, John, that is the answer on "Why Ripple/XRP Doubled In Value in Less Than A Week". Case closed.
2845  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: November 24, 2014, 02:02:09 AM
British please.
American can sometimes sound like a slang.

!??!!! thought u 'r French
2846  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ripple shot up.. why? on: November 23, 2014, 05:02:42 PM
heyhey  Cheesy now that is news, thank you for explaining. it is indeed easier to create a huuge marketcap out of thin air. they did not even spend money for ink and paper or a press

So just as an FYI to the new people here wondering why ripple is the second listed on coinmarketcap.





Man must be nice to create $100 million literally out of thin air  Roll Eyes
2847  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: THE ALT CURRENCIES BUBBLE IS BURSTING... on: November 23, 2014, 02:01:52 PM
...
I know, I know, there are still eternal believers who are holding considerable bags already on every one of the 500+ alts still somewhat alive. They believe so called "established coins" the likes of Black Coin, Dogecoin, Darkcoin, Nextcoin, Vericoin, etc, currnetly trading at multimonths lows (DOGE is one exception, but not for long), are about to rebound. They don't believe they will go "any lower" or, when they have posted such things, change to "not much lower" as the coins continue hitting new lows of many, many months almost daily.

Heh! That is called averaging down, down and averaging further down into oblivion, commonly known best bussiness practice!
Stop mocking us Cool

PS: bags for sale, cheap coins
2848  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ripple shot up.. why? on: November 23, 2014, 01:55:42 PM
can someone briefly explain to me why ripple has shot up?
Just like how stellar shot up.

I don't see any particular reason.

TrianglePythagoras, your triangulation pins it to the point! If it is a pump, there is no other reason then in itself, to pump up. But let us take a glance at the numbers.

On BTC38 there is 23.89 % of all Ripple trade volume moving, in a size like $ 332,622 last 24 hours.
The trading pair is Yuan Renminbi against Ripple. Then comes a lot of movement happening inside Ripple Charts so is that an insider job? There are signs.
On the other exchangers like Cryptsy with 2.56 %, Kraken on 1.09 % and Poloniex with 0.71 % basically happens ... nothing.

Follow the money trail they said.

Price keeps walking upstairs inside the Ripple Charts trade pairs which is most probably fake volume pumped around in circles. That makes like 75% of all trades and drive the price, then China is following trading in their Yuan which is a good opportunity if you are living there because the Chinese Government is not exactly friendly atmosphere when it comes to trading money.

The rest of the world Cryptsy-Kraken-Poloniex couldn't care less on that, but at least some $ 60,000 are moving there too. Could be one trader, could be two. I don't know. I would say if you are chinese, and have spare Yuan in your hands, then all you would want to do is keep trading across the spread now and enjoy.
2849  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: November 23, 2014, 12:07:44 AM
huuuge icon
...has found a new home on 1 more desktop  Cheesy
2850  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: New Coin on: November 22, 2014, 10:32:04 PM
Not from me. IPO's have been used to many times as a scam. Most scam coins either have an IPO or a huge premine.

so how do you intend to solve the initial distribution problem?
Airdrops are out, all permutations of IPO either.
For POW I would point at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857112.msg9625205#msg9625205
2851  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: New Cloin form GAWminers. What do people think? on: November 22, 2014, 10:23:31 PM
Is this a big deal or a big bust. Should I have this on my mind or should I just expect to get ripped-off really hard. I would like peoples Opinion on this. The thing is that bitcoin is still moving along way too fast. Even though its expected to last about 100 years the difficulty keeps rising too quickly to justify purchasing any miners weather virtual or physical. The coins value will just keep dropping because the feds continuing hunt for "silk road" type sites in effort to seize coins and auction them out. There is an auction coming up next month. So tell me why I shouldn't consider GAWminers new coin.

I am looking out for these auctions. There was Silkroad 1 and later Silkroad 2, and some assets seized from Pirateat40. Other minor incidents like seized darknet sites for hosting whatever stuff was low volume, doesnt matter much.

Then there was the MtGox desaster which will likely result in some governmental coin sales? Or is MK dumping our coins in private?

Far to many coins are inside hands where not belonging.

Do you know what happend with the lost BTC's from the MT.GOX fiasco ? Karples was caught using Blockchain.com to send them into smaller address almost down to 10btc.

Don't believe me ? Google it.
2852  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why do we never get a topic on inflation in this section? (poll) on: November 22, 2014, 09:48:57 PM
The same reason people don't talk about it in real life. People don't know what it is and it's effect on value, especially when conflated with the word 'interest'

Inflation means a somewhat different aspect, that of more coins appearing. Bitcoin suffers from POW-Inflation means that there isn't only more coins each day, but Market Cap loosing that same amount payable upfront to wall socket power suppliers in hard cash.

Market Cap: $ 5,407,695,423
Bitcoin        $ 4,841,874,395
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all Alts together $565,821,028

that is 89.5% of the whole story pulled by Bitcoin allone.

"Crypto is going down" due to electricity costs for POW mining, which are on a ROI of ~10% for Miners easily calculateable. Let us just hope they experience a ROI, otherwise hashrate will inflate quickly.
    
Think of all the miners having to pay 90% for electricity & production hardware, today that was $ 1,156,680 or 0.02% a day. Summs up over the year but stays in total nearby 7%
(if they have to pay 110% and are mining on a loss, figures get worser)
    
So why do we have had that $ 315 all-year-low for 1 BTC ?!

There are two effects, the first technical one is POW-Inflation so bleeding money to electricity companys, but the even bigger must be a lack of interest by Joe Average out there. Market adaption does not happen. POS could trigger that interest of Joe, but the total percentage % of POS on Total Market Cap is currently negligible.
    
2853  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: November 22, 2014, 02:44:50 PM
No need to rub shortcomings in people's faces. Investors are gonna get hurt anyways. It sucks, but they don't need training wheels and helmets from people they don't even know, especially if all they want to see is rockets to the moon. Fortunately, they tend to keep coming back.

Now blatant scams on the other hand .. different story. Go nuts Cheesy

Zerocoin based rocket, worlds first working implementation ever third try Cool

2854  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: November 22, 2014, 02:28:21 PM
As marketing it is not meant bitcointalk forum. Here at least the ones that care of altcoins mostly already know of Monero.
For average bitcointalk altcoin user. current database and simple wallet or unofficial GUI is good enough. and if they would want would already have some Moneros.

Ack, "Preaching to the choir" who are willing to reply to the gospel. And if Hero Members are respected outside of Bitcointalk? Are they even respected inside of Bitcointalk  Cool


To reach out of the filter bubble of this thread, Monero has to be polished up enough to reach a mass audience. So let us do a quick comparison with another successfull Altcoin, the Litecoin.
Started with features:

  • quicker confirmations
  • smaller blockchain since starting fresh
  • ASIC resistance due to new algorithm

Which is stunningly similar to Monero

  • quicker confirmations, too.
  • smaller blockchain since starting fresh
    with a small drawback that is is growing rather quickly
  • ASIC resistance due to new algorithm
    just the move over to GPUs has allready been done
   
The feature that might make Monero win the race is perhaps the privacy, but we don't know for sure. This is hypothetical, since Ringsignatures could backfire for any currently unknown reason.

But how can Monero compare to Litecoin from a new user perspective? Litecoin has a QT based GUI, period. This is the next milestone I think.

Disclaimer: Actually I am happy with development process, there are several developers actively working on the codebase. The last stain from blockchain attacks, high TX fees, has been cleaned out. Database is arriving soon[tm] and once the GUI is shaping up, we are ready to roll out marketing presence almost everywhere. Stay tuned.
2855  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Keep your coins off the exchanges!! they use your funds to manipulate prices on: November 22, 2014, 01:17:49 PM
Hopefully when Koinyx exchange comes out it will be able to handle these types of situations without the 2-3 hour delays that are imposed to limit actual benefit to customers instead of the exchange operators. I love the idea of arbitrage, but good luck when sending coins takes 10x longer than it should because of shady exchanges.
Had that on friday, coin rising but until I got there, was over. Just a bubble.

Now what has been cause, what the effect? Was it bubbling because selling got artificially slowed down?

crypto 101 never leave ur crypto wealth on any online source.
Absolutely true. Well, minus wealth, perhaps.
2856  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [CANN] CannabisCoin X11/POW :Official (community thread) #YESWECANN on: November 22, 2014, 01:16:21 AM
D9 seems to be going for complete control of CANN. He doesn't like to use bitcointalk anymore. He wants everyone to use twitter and his own forum.

Wrong. Totally not about control, but about evading oppression. Remember forum first banned him for what exactly?
Then FUDDERS invaded all threads mocking "has dev left?"
2857  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Toasters to Mine Bitcoins on: November 21, 2014, 10:17:32 AM
Neither refrigerators nor toasters belong into the internet.

Have never been there, worked just fine. Stop the bullshit.
2858  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Keep your coins off the exchanges!! they use your funds to manipulate prices on: November 21, 2014, 09:24:20 AM
I wouldn't be entirely surprised...

funny the differenciation between "it is one of the respectable one" and on the other side standing "a pump and dump on xmg on bittrex"  Cool

I am not sure if there is any such thing as a respectable one, but bittrex for sure belongs into it's own not so nice cathegory.
2859  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: November 21, 2014, 06:58:15 AM
I was hoping that someone in an official capacity could update the blockchain download link so it's not so far behind.  It's little things like that will drive you crazy.  If you're going to link the blockchain at least update it periodically.

Windows version
The format is not portable. So either we want
  • a portable database format
  • a converter commandline tool
  • an export/import function in the daemon for a monero-only, specific asccii dump
2860  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: November 21, 2014, 05:57:58 AM

Mixed feelings. "The exchange rate shown is exactly what you'll receive, minus only the "miner fee."" is interesting in pointing out the difference on choosen set of POW mined coins.
Somehow the POS "miner fee" is missing inside that list.

And can XMR compete with "DRK Miner Fee: 0.003 DRK" for example? Summarises the "user experience" waiting patiently on a memory hog that needs aeons to sync (not the coin, this references a timespan  Cool ) then costing you a half day of mining on average desktop machine just for sending a single transaction. Which on the other hand then gets confirmed through the network even quicker then your fragile simplewallet/monerod combo is able to shutdown save to disk again. Time is money, too.

A geek might not recognize those issues. A let's name them customer would turn into a non-customer on that.


Second argument, pretty much of the crypto subculture is surrounding the exchange sites, their chat environment. The completely existing in limbo setup like "No emails or passwords. No lengthy sign­up process. No accounts. No bid and ask orders. No friction." is exactly lacking that friction. Geek advise: If you did not catched that, ask a woman.
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