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2861  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 13, 2019, 08:38:57 PM
https://bitseed.org/bitseed-is-closing-shop/
in other shrewd investments that every bitcoiner knew wouldn't last

to be fair, the competition is hot for these toys
2862  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 13, 2019, 08:19:50 PM
https://medium.com/circle-blog/circle-to-sunset-payment-app-continue-advancing-vision-of-crypto-based-payment-solutions-using-fb6d35629be
 the screw-ups at Circle screwed up again? lost their banking? despite being owned by Goldman?
2863  Economy / Reputation / Re: realr0ach is a danger to newbies and guests. on: June 13, 2019, 07:59:59 PM
Theb I've shown r0ach's dishonesty in the op (as well as the stupidity you mentioned, but that is by the by). You're not up to speed with the different types of flag discussed in the theymos link you gave, nor the one here in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153820.msg51455278#msg51455278
2864  Economy / Reputation / Re: realr0ach is a danger to newbies and guests. on: June 13, 2019, 07:23:46 PM
Still its not a red flag? is it? Just to take special care for reading his stuff cause a lot of it is made of delusional minded BS.... its a soft flag for just to be careful with what you gonna read Smiley
His potential flag is showing https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1115697
but yeah be careful with this guy, he's not to be trusted.
2865  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 13, 2019, 07:00:23 PM
stfu jjg



Couldn't they break the rule just once and make a pretty electric car?
They are getting quite quick, they just need to pipe in some throbbing and roaring noses, vibration etc., and, well, once you're in it you don't have to look at the ugly mug.
2866  Other / Meta / Re: Leaving the forum (I will miss a few of you people) on: June 13, 2019, 06:42:27 PM
Still plenty time to buy back in. Search for 'dollar cost average bitcoin'.
2867  Economy / Reputation / Re: realr0ach is a danger to newbies and guests. on: June 13, 2019, 06:38:10 PM
So far only TECSHARE is only opposing the red flag you have made for realr0ach and I can say that I am leaning on his side as well. The posts you have provided only voice out his opinion towards BTC. He doesn't suggest any other cryptocurrency or shill any kind of investment program towards members, there isn't even the slightest of hint that he is promoting anything else. For me his just another nocoiner messing up the forum with his opinions and false accusation to others. But if you do provide a convincing evidence that he is scamming people then I'll be on your side.
That would be grounds for a different kind of flag and hopefully much more black and white. This type is much more subjective I agree, yet proactive.
2868  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 13, 2019, 06:29:05 PM
There are over 38 known clusters of these meteor showers..that we know of today. Combined with NEO's and comet's, these are what cause me worry from time to time.

Small rocks are harmless, they burn in the atmosphere. Meteor showers are pretty, and cause zero damage.

Big rocks are rare, and unlikely to hit Earth.
Even if/when is happens, they might miss highly populated areas and not cause a lot of damage anyway.

Really big rocks are all discovered, counted etc. No worries here. None of them on the collision course.

Do they include Bob's rocks in the count? I hear they are 1 really big and 2 collided every day
2869  Economy / Reputation / Re: realr0ach is a danger to newbies and guests. on: June 13, 2019, 05:49:49 PM
Do you think it is advisable for newbies to trade with the guy?

Most people involved in the Physical Silver/Nazi Memorabilia market (ticker:SS/AG) can look after themselves.

TIL. This guy, though, is not so good at looking after himself, claiming to have gotten his account hacked, and to have sold his bitcoin at the bottom before deciding it was 'bad' and launching into a career of deceit. But anything could be true here.
2870  Economy / Reputation / Re: Request support for Flags here! on: June 13, 2019, 05:36:28 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=77 r0ach

I wouldn't advise anyone to trade with him, let alone a newbie.

Thank you.
2871  Economy / Reputation / Re: realr0ach is a danger to newbies and guests. on: June 13, 2019, 04:23:09 PM
Separate the wheat from the chaff.
That sure sounds a lot like you think it is you who gets to decide who is wheat and who is chaff.

'Separate the stuff in the op about the guy's opinions from his lies there.' It wasn't clear, true, so you fitted it into your agenda.

The rest of your comments we've been through more than once.

Do you think it is advisable for newbies to trade with the guy?



Tidied up the op a bit, some people couldn't see the wood for the trees Roll Eyes
Couple links added, ty for sending them in. Some people are scared to comment.
2872  Economy / Reputation / Re: realr0ach is a danger to newbies and guests. on: June 13, 2019, 03:51:04 PM
"Last of the V8s alleges: Due largely to the factors mentioned in this topic, I believe that anyone dealing with realr0ach is at a high risk of losing money, and guests would be well-advised to avoid doing so. This determination is based on concrete red flags which any knowledgeable & reasonable forum user should agree with, and it is not based on the user's opinions."

You call it lies, this could simply be a difference of opinion. Furthermore nothing you are stating is at all trade related. This flag is 100% based off of his opinions, which is explicitly prohibited. It is not your job to judge who people should and should't trade with. You have a tool intended to warn users of potential fraud, you are using this tool to punish this user for words you don't like. That is not only counterproductive to the intended use case of the trust system, it is quite childish.

You seem to be cottoning on, if slowly. It's a subjective flag. Complain to theymos. If he tweaks the rules, I'll comply.

Can you explain how supporters (or opponents) of these two flags are or are not misusing the system:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=60
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=56

It almost sounds to me like flags should have either 100% support or 100% opposition. If there is a split then one side is wrong and that side is misusing the system... what am I missing?

Type-1 flags are more subjective. If you believe:
 - Anyone dealing with the user is at a high risk of losing money, due to red flags which any knowledgeable & reasonable forum user should agree with, and not just due to the user's opinions.
 - Enough of the above-mentioned factors are listed in the linked topic.
 
Then you can support it. If you believe the first but not the second, then you should oppose it and create a separate flag. If you believe that the first is incorrect (ie. people dealing with the user are not at a particularly high risk of losing money), then you should oppose it.

The type-1 flags on Quickseller, BSV, etc. aren't misuse of the system by either supporters or opponents.
There are clear lies in the op.
How can you trade with a liar? One who knows a bit about Bitcoin but insists it has no value and everyone should buy silver?
Where do I claim it's my 'job'? Don't put words in my mouth. It's the forum's job to vote on this advisory flag, though.
For the umpteenth time, it's not about his bigotry and what all else.
Take your 'childish' ad hom elsewhere. You are not coming off as 'knowledgeable or reasonable'.
2873  Economy / Reputation / Re: [Flag/Tag/Exclusion Request] - Turkish Section Gang on: June 13, 2019, 03:07:05 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153850.msg51452138#msg51452138
more accusations going the rounds
2874  Economy / Reputation / Re: realr0ach is a danger to newbies and guests. on: June 13, 2019, 03:02:25 PM
Maybe I was unclear. It sounds like you are opening the flag because you don’t like him, and not because you actually believe he is dangerous to deal with.

Further, I don’t see evidence he actually trades with anyone, which implies this is a smear attack against him.
Thanks for you opinions. Let's hope this stops him from trading with anyone.
2875  Economy / Reputation / Re: realr0ach is a danger to newbies and guests. on: June 13, 2019, 02:30:48 PM
I am glad you took our little discussion to heart. The trust system is not there as a mechanism to punish people for bad or wrong ideas, it is there to help protect people from fraud. Stop using it as a tool to punish people who piss you off.
Thanks for reading my post so carefully. I quite agree that it's there not for their ideas, but to stop them ripping off newbies. Your last sentence doesn't quite parse, because as you have read, I'm not tooling around. Perhaps you mean it as a general invitation to others.

If it is not for their ideas, why is this entire post filled with nothing but their ideas? I don't see any evidence of them trying to rip anyone off. To me, it looks like you are in fact using the trust system as a tool to punish this user for his ideas that you do not agree with.
It isn't. Separate the wheat from the chaff. There's plenty. I'll write what I like, but the vote part is abundantly clear.
That evidence isn't required for this type of flag. We're in the realm of the subjective.
I note your theory. Thanks for contributing your views.
Please vote as you wish, or not at all.

It sounds like you don’t like the guy.

I haven’t seen any evidence this guy is possibly dangerous to trade with or even that he even trades.

Would it be some sin if I didn't like him?

I don't like TECSHARE, but I'm not opening up a newbie warning scam flag. He doesn't seem to lie all the time, causing people to doubt him in a potential trade.

Newbies do join because of his posts, btw, and who knows what goes on in their personal messages?

You can also find him on games platforms, so you don't need even to be logged in to be faced with his dishonesty.
2876  Other / Meta / Re: theymosisms - A collection of posts for reference on: June 13, 2019, 02:01:13 PM
Well, that's a change Cheesy I'll need some time to process this, maybe probably it's for the better, but it looks like theymos now officially got himself a part-time job as a quasi-lawyer?

I am one of the world's foremost experts on quasi-law, after all. Surely you've read my widely-cited article in the Journal of Laws or Whatever titled, "A new approach to the rigorous design of legal systems: just worry about it later."

In the heat of battle, here is theymos being droll. Maybe offtopic for this thread. Is there a thread for the more humorous side? I'll delete if you need.
2877  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 13, 2019, 01:56:21 PM
er he's already got one sort of mini-flag because of theymos' tweaks  Embarrassed

2878  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 13, 2019, 01:13:51 PM
soemthing wrong with bj Huh
2879  Other / Meta / Re: PM from admin demanding to exclude a certain user on: June 13, 2019, 01:00:51 PM
For example I'm not currently in DT1.
Ridiculous. We should have a politburo system or similar, so the best ones are always there on DT1, and only the 'bottom-feeders' like myself and, well, others, come and go. /s
You and most other holidaying politburo members seen to be taking it very well though.
2880  Economy / Reputation / Re: realr0ach is a danger to newbies and guests. on: June 13, 2019, 12:26:31 PM
I am glad you took our little discussion to heart. The trust system is not there as a mechanism to punish people for bad or wrong ideas, it is there to help protect people from fraud. Stop using it as a tool to punish people who piss you off.
Thanks for reading my post so carefully. I quite agree that it's there not for their ideas, but to stop them ripping off newbies. Your last sentence doesn't quite parse, because as you have read, I'm not tooling around. Perhaps you mean it as a general invitation to others.
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