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2881  Economy / Reputation / Re: 1xbit is at it again with bounty and a signature campaign on: May 26, 2021, 01:01:17 PM
Probably never going to happen, but would be an interesting supply & demand experiment.

Or they'll just "cancel" the campaign after the application thread is flooded with scam warning posts. They get a few days of free promotion and can blame the "trolls".
2882  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated persons quarantine? on: May 26, 2021, 12:48:57 PM
For my part I'm keeping my distance from people who I know to have participated in this gene therapy.  When there are a lot of them around in a few weeks I will voluntarily stay at home and away from public places.  I do that anyway to a degree because it is humiliating to wear a mask.  Mask-wearers are already not welcome at my properties, and vaccinated won't be either I'm sad to say.  I just cannot take the chance when my family's health is at stake.

Great, I think a self-imposed lockdown is the right solution for you. How are you going to detect vaccinated infiltrators if they try to breach the perimeter pretending to be unvaccinated?

I drove through a parking structure at one of the malls a few weeks ago and it was pretty gassy.

I would suggest less beans in your diet.
2883  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 26, 2021, 01:15:21 AM
Seems to me that you are complaining (if we want to call it that) about the interference of the natural ways of the free market which would more likely just follow a supply and demand curve.  So if there are guys meeting in private meeting and wanting to either collude in terms of stating industrial preferences and sure maybe Elon is wanting to look "green" in order to get subsidies, which is not exactly either free market or following where supply and demand might more naturally take incentives.

I wouldn't say I'm complaining, it doesn't really affect me in any significant way.

I'm quite certain any such green schemes simply won't work but Elon is welcome to fork Bitcoin into proof-of-tweet if he's not happy about mining.
2884  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: 🕵️‍♂️Student Coin Team are Scammers in Disguise, Refused Paying Hunters Reward on: May 26, 2021, 12:44:10 AM
CEO of Student Coin in telegram channel pinned post says that bounty hunters generated almost nothing, said that bounty hunters made low quality content and did not help to promote project at all. That can be true, sometimes bounty hunters share retweet post info only among each other, sometimes work they do are useless. But that does not mean they must not be paid what they were promised. It was Student Coin fault not to follow how bounty was doing and if it brings any success. They should have stopped bounty as soon as they saw it brings no result. It is completely Student Coin fault that such situation appeared.

It's more likely the fault of the bounty manager who hired shitty participants. The OP didn't provide any proof of what the original agreement was and who broke it. I wouldn't be surprised if BountyDetective lied to both sides (to the "CEO" about the quality of the promotion, and to the bounty participants about why they're not getting paid).
2885  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 25, 2021, 08:07:42 PM
Surely I would not really know this, and sometimes the miners themselves might want to put out disinformation in order to keep out competition.
I see all kinds of numbers on how much it costs to mine a bitcoin, and sure I recognize that some sources are likely more credible than others.  The more that you are involved in mining the more you might care about this, but also sometimes folks spout out theories of expected BTC price movement based on mining costs, too, and surely I take some of that with a grain of salt too and appreciate that peeps going to have differing perspectives about what causes what, and probably many of us appreciate that it is not exactly a one way street.. and even some miners might purposefully mine at a loss for a considerable amount of time to attempt to flush out competition too.

It's a fairly simple supply/demand equation, albeit slightly complicated by BTC volatility and the correlated risks. If it's very profitable to mine, the difficulty will rise until it's not, so the window of opportunity - especially for a smaller miner who doesn't benefit from high volume electric rates etc - is quite small. If this has any effect on price (which I doubt considering mining volumes and trading volumes) then it's likely a drag in bear season (miners need to sell more coins to pay the bills) and less selling pressure in bull season (miners can afford to hodl), so basically mildly negative.

Anyway, my point is that if someone wanted to use renewables, even at a loss for all I care, they could already do it, so all these tweets and meetings and shit do nothing for the environment, nothing for Bitcoin, maybe some new trolling material for Elon and a few pointless jobs for some college dropouts to create a Powerpoint on "transparency".
2886  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 25, 2021, 04:37:23 PM
I also doubt they would want to regulate themselves out of existence nor do they have the lobbying clout to get subsidies... but they might need to suck up to govt/banks/etc in some way and buy some solar panels from Elon. Again, a mighty ironic place for Bitcoin miners to be and mostly because some wall street brats pretend to be our friends while tweeting stupid shit.

The problem with solar is that it is a heavy up-front investment which you only eventually catch up with after many years. For miners, they'd rather be putting that money into mining equipment or could straight-out buy Bitcoin.

Put up a couple of panels for show, call it the primary energy source, get the other 99% from the grid and call it a backup because it's sometimes cloudy. I'm sure I'm just scratching the surface here of what corporate weasels can come up with to call themselves "green". Especially when there is a petulant billionaire tweeting nonsense and interfering with their business.
2887  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 25, 2021, 04:07:02 PM
I do get some sense that Saylor tends to be much more grown up than Elon and also has built quite a bit of credibility in the bitcoin space in the past 10 months or so.. as compared to Elon dicking around in a variety of ways.. whether self-serving, distractions or attacks upon bitcoin.

For all the praise Saylor gets, the bottom line is that he's pumping Bitcoin with OPM and basically running a Bitcoin ETF. I'm genuinely surprised how bitcoiners - typically distrustful of everyone and everything related to Walls Street / banks / big corps / etc think that this is a good idea.

I doubt that you were mining for a medal..

Nah. I just find it really hypocritical for those suits to try and make it look like they're doing us all a favor talking about "transparency" and "renewables".

Personally, I would not go so far as to suggest that meetings have no effect or that a lot of public attention could have affects too.. whether meetings or public attention causes actual substantive focusing on getting more green, or going through the motions or attempts to seek government subsidies can be variations regarding how meetings could change focuses of individual miners or pools.

Except for the last few months and brief periods in the past, Bitcoin mining is marginally profitable at best, and only with the cheapest power. Which in North America often happens to be renewable (hydro in Washington or Quebec, govt subsidized solar panels, etc) but that's basically just a coincidence. I doubt that any sane large scale miner would switch their farm to 100% renewables unless it's the cheapest option, otherwise they'll be out of business when Bitcoin crashes and/or difficulty goes up.

I also doubt they would want to regulate themselves out of existence nor do they have the lobbying clout to get subsidies... but they might need to suck up to govt/banks/etc in some way and buy some solar panels from Elon. Again, a mighty ironic place for Bitcoin miners to be and mostly because some wall street brats pretend to be our friends while tweeting stupid shit.
2888  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 25, 2021, 04:30:15 AM
I think that we no longer need to be skeptical of the truth of Elon having had participated in some kind of discussions with some miners in very recent times, yet for me it is very interesting that Elon pretty much was able to get his ass saved by Saylor.

I'm genuinely amazed that some "leading" miners no one's heard of before are going along with this wall street bro charade. I've been mining with hydro power since like 2015, where's my fucking medal LOL. But the reality always was that mining is going to happen where power is cheap. Which means renewables where renewables are cheap and I don't think any tweets about meetings will change that.

Note that they're are not even saying they'll change anything: "decided to establish an organization to standardize energy reporting, pursue industry ESG goals, & educate+grow the marketplace", which sounds like some top-notch corporate bullshit to please some possibly squirming fund managers who may have thought about dumping MSTR stock.
2889  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 25, 2021, 03:06:37 AM
I need to learn some terminology, what's slicing?

You need to slice the 3D model into layers and convert it to printer commands before you can actually print it. Slicing software also adds supports for overhangs, sets infill type, etc.
2890  Other / Meta / Re: frodocooper nolonger a mod, what could have happened? on: May 25, 2021, 02:53:52 AM
~ baseless speculation ~

He was replying to PMs as recently as February so obviously post count means nothing but don't let that get in the way of your shitposting.
2891  Other / Meta / Re: frodocooper nolonger a mod, what could have happened? on: May 24, 2021, 09:47:39 PM
I wouldn't want to speculate on "why" but I do hope that someone similarly strict will be appointed in frodo's place. Despite some complaints, those boards are a pleasure to read compared to the rest of Bitcointalk and we do need at least some part of the forum to remain like that.
2892  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Did you take the vaccine? tell us what happend? on: May 24, 2021, 09:22:51 PM
Did you get the second shot right away? After all, it is necessary that at least six months pass between vaccinations, as my attending physician explained to me.

I'm quite sure franky1 was talking about COVID-19 vaccines that require two shots, three weeks (Pfizer) or four weeks (Moderna) apart.
2893  Economy / Reputation / Re: I got a question for not paying project. on: May 24, 2021, 09:13:16 PM
Q1. Is their any solutions from Bitcointalk Forum team if any project not pay Bounty hunters after completing Bounty and successful?

Q2. Is it possible to take action against this type of project together?

At the very least, if such a thing happens you should create a proper scam accusation with proof of what was promised and proof of what was delivered (or not delivered). Unlike some users that pop in here, dump a bunch of screenshots from telegram or some shit like that, and expect others to do the legwork and figure out who's right.

That is if you really care about warning other users. As others explained above that's about the only thing that's really possible. You won't be able to extract the money if there was no escrow and the "project" refuses to pay.

LoyceV & suchmoon

Are you ok?
2894  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 24, 2021, 09:02:24 PM
Oh so Elon spoke with "North American miners"... well, he certainly didn't speak with me so right there I already know he's full of shit.
2895  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: 🕵️‍♂️Student Coin Team are Scammers in Disguise, Refused Paying Hunters Reward on: May 24, 2021, 08:09:14 PM
Why the fuck are you shitbumping this topic with these stupid shillpuppet accounts? This is not a fucking bounty board.
2896  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Businesses banning the vaccine. on: May 24, 2021, 05:56:17 PM
Covid 19 is not killing young people, also it is not killing healthy people.

It actually is killing young and/or healthy people. Perhaps you meant it's killing more old people than young people, but it's also important to keep in mind that a young person can infect an old person.
2897  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will bitcoin dump below $30,000 this week? on: May 24, 2021, 12:54:54 PM
Will bitcoin pump above $40,000 this week?

I mean... do we really need a new speculation thread about every friggin' price point? It's Bitcoin, it goes up and it goes down and it goes up and you get the idea.

If I were a dictator moderator of the speculation board I would allow one bull thread, one bear thread, and WO. Any other thread better have a really good novel topic, not some generic "number go down" or "number go up" stuff.
2898  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 23, 2021, 02:45:46 AM
Good to see BTC dominance gaining some strength once again. Seems like the end of the altseason; dog and most of DeFi tokens are gonna go -99%.

Who cares... that dominance shit is fake AF.

I mean - issue a quadrillion of stupid tokens and now BTC "market share" gets diluted by $100 million? Doesn't make any sense.

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2899  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Republicans should be put to death. on: May 23, 2021, 01:03:49 AM
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Or you can get off your ass and vote instead of wasting your energy posting stupid shit here.

It's about time our side had a BADecker.

coins4commies just wasn't really cutting it.

Didn't he become a trumpling after Bernie lost? So wasn't a real "commie" anyway.
2900  Other / Meta / Re: User banned - Possibly misunderstanding the idea of a regular social bounty on: May 22, 2021, 02:11:53 PM
Also: I know scams aren't moderated, but it just doesn't seem right to me that scamming 1 LTC is allowed, but giving it away gets you banned. I'm considering creating yet another topic to try to have some forum rules adjusted.

Be careful what you wish for. Unlike BTC, most altcoins are using this forum for promotion and AFAIK that's one of the reasons to not allow giveaways, to contain altcoins to their specific boards, etc - because otherwise it would turn into uncontrollable spamming shitshow. As discussed above, this might be somewhat mitigated by allowing only well-established ones but some of those like ETH have huge fees too and there's a bunch of scammy ones even in CMC top 10, so how exactly would you pick which ones to favor?

Or we could stick to Bitcoin and promote LN (or whatever the current scaling panacea is) instead. It seems counterproductive to cater to the specific use cases unless BTC is fit for those use cases. If it doesn't work for small giveaways - don't do small giveaways. Otherwise it'd be like allowing to discuss ETH on the Dev & Tech board because Bitcoin doesn't support ERC20 and we really want to talk about ERC20.
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