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1981  Economy / Services / Re: [FULL] ChipMixer Signature Campaign | Sr Member+ on: December 12, 2021, 12:33:34 AM
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You're gonna use this thread now to comment on my every post? I'm flattered but that's not necessary and seems spammy.

My apologies to Elon Musk for thwarting his interplanetary plans with a comment on an internet forum.
1982  Economy / Goods / Re: ~ Buying a TESLA CYBERTRUCK with BITCOIN ~ on: December 11, 2021, 11:09:59 PM
The windshield wiper is longer than the truck bed LOL. I think this video made Ford execs really happy. They have a real electric truck coming and this just shows what happens when a 5-year old's drawing meets reality.

Although to be fair to Elon, if not for those pesky government regulations, Tesla fanboys would buy the truck even without wipers. Or side mirrors.
1983  Economy / Reputation / Re: DT1 and DT2 members who have negative feedback (or are banned) on: December 11, 2021, 06:52:20 PM
Are you sure it's not just because nutildah "no longer distrusts silverfuture" (as a DT1) that you are making this appeal?  Doesn't silverfuture trust OgNasty (whom you distrust)

I don't know what this has to do with nutildah. People come and go in DT1 every month. I just happened to notice the bullshit DT2 rating on TMAN.

But the real question is why haven't you distrusted silverfuture yourself, yet you ask others to do so for you?

I'm not in DT1 and silverfuture is not in my trust network, so my exclusion wouldn't mean anything. Also this does nothing "for me".
1984  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Ledger Card Honeypot on: December 11, 2021, 06:12:02 PM
Maybe. But I have some hope left: shop owners won't accept LN if there are barely any customers who use it. Creditcards are widely accepted already, so if creditcards temporarily help more users to pay with crypto, it might lead to the situation where more and more users actually pay with crypto. And if that's the case, it suddenly becomes interesting for shop owners to cut out the middle man that takes a percentage out of each transaction, and accept LN directly.
Maybe I'm dreaming, but I'm still hopeful Smiley

I think it reduces the incentive for merchants to take bitcoins directly, as well as for users to ask for it, since Bitcoin already kinda sorta works for them via this card kludge.

I don't really consider it subsidizing competitors: Bitcoin gives the freedom to use it in different ways. Creditcard companies are now joining because there's money to be made, and maybe because they know they can still get an early adopter advantage before they're too late.

That's the thing. Bitcoin has a built-in direct payment method, and we're obfuscating it with extra layers of useless fluff that actually limits this freedom.

They also say you will be able to borrow against the value of the coins on your hardware wallet and spend in fiat, which can only mean the coins on your hardware wallet are locked up in some kind of smart contract or escrow controlled by Ledger or Baanx, and are therefore not your coins at all.

At that point might as well go full defi and use WBTC. Or even unsecured credit... no big deal, they already got your KYC, just give them a bit more details, like your credit score.

1985  Economy / Reputation / Re: DT1 and DT2 members who have negative feedback (or are banned) on: December 11, 2021, 02:57:12 PM
Appeal to DT1 members: please exclude silverfuture https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=44611

  • Red-trusted TMAN for an opinion.
  • Included by only one DT1 member who has a grudge against TMAN. Also self-scratching.
  • Inactive.
1986  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Ledger Card Honeypot on: December 11, 2021, 02:35:15 PM
Of course, funding cards with crypto is only a temporary solution while shops don't accept crypto directly. Give it time Smiley

I would argue that these types of cards are counterproductive to the long term goal of having BTC/LN/etc accepted directly. It gets tangled up in the perpetual fiat nonsense of centralization, KYC, card fraud, etc. The Visa/MC duopoly get the card processing fees so we're basically subsidizing competitors of Bitcoin payment systems, along with entities that aren't exactly the best representatives of what Bitcoin is about (Binance, Coinbase, Ledger, ...).
1987  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: December 11, 2021, 04:01:26 AM
If I win versus Taco Corp and Maddogs lose versus Psychotics, I can go to playoff?

You would have to win by 18 points or more, otherwise Taco owns the total points tiebreaker.
1988  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Ledger Card Honeypot on: December 10, 2021, 02:26:15 PM
I've had a competitor's card for nearly two years now, and it's really soured my opinion of crypto-backed credit/debit cards.

Never understood the appeal of these things. A good credit card that's accepted everywhere, 1-5% cash back, grace period, etc, works great for fiat purchases. Then I can pay the monthly bill by selling some corn if I'm so inclined. Much easier for tax returns too, ~12 transactions instead of hundreds.

Well, in case of Ledger card your crypto will be on your hardware wallet and not on the exchange.

Most likely you'll have to move it in order to use the card. So that probably means funding the card in advance or carrying the HW wallet with you along with the card and fiddling with it on the spot.
1989  Other / Meta / Re: If the signature campaings are removed from the forum, will you stay or leave? on: December 09, 2021, 09:34:18 PM
You're exaggerating

I might have been, yes.

Point is, with anonymous polls I think answers tend to be more wishful than factual. On average. Not everyone is necessarily or consciously dishonest.

I don't think that suchmoon was serious about that honeypot thing

I used to wear a big red "/s" in my signature back in the day and I'd probably go back to doing that if I'm no longer in a campaign. Some people still take me too seriously after all these years Smiley
1990  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 09, 2021, 09:19:51 PM
Friends of patterns and lines: Would touching $46k today make it a double bottom? Yes or no?

As long as the owner of the bottom is a consenting adult, touching is fine I think.
1991  Economy / Services / Re: Register a marketplace such as coinbase for an holding on: December 09, 2021, 08:35:11 PM
I really dont know how to subscrime where u re not an individual but a company.

https://help.coinbase.com/en/pro/getting-started/other/applying-for-a-coinbase-business-account
1992  Other / Meta / Re: Some members are more priviledged than others? on: December 09, 2021, 01:55:37 PM
I think nutildah did get a bit of special consideration here, as he was warned multiple times before he got temp-banned.  Other members who don't have a reputation, or who are shitposters, or who have negative trust might have been banned much sooner.  I can't say that's 100% true of course, but I don't think the mods were quick with the ban hammer as far as nutildah goes.

That makes sense only if nutildah absolutely had to be banned and the only question was whether to do it quickly or not so quickly.

Is the forum better off with that thread moved and nutildah banned?

Anyone who can honestly say "yes" to the above question without resorting to slippery slope fallacies and shit like that has seriously impaired judgement IMO.
1993  Other / Archival / Re: Self-moderation in topics with financial relations on: December 09, 2021, 01:40:07 PM
Why are all these preventive methods of protection? Just deprive these sections of the ability to hide their fraud. Instead, the community is trying to warn users with this multi-step jumble of tips. Just remove self-moderation from these sections and it will be a million times more effective than all these tons of explanations on how to behave in a self-moderated topic.

The flipside is that legitimate trade topics can be easily flooded by competitor sockpuppets. Self moderated marketplace threads have a use case but as many other things on this forum this feature is abused by shitheads (see korner LOL) and it's being allowed due to some misguided equal opportunity free speech fallacies.

Perhaps self-mod privileges should be tied to rank or earned merit but that would have disadvantages as well.
1994  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk - if it's not broken don't fix it on: December 09, 2021, 04:30:40 AM
I agree with the OP's sentiment but there are definitely things that can be done without taking anything away from the current forum experience. E.g. notifications can be fully optional.

wen new forum software

Things that will happen before then:

  • Elon Musk's dog will land on the Moon.
  • Adele will release an album titled "95".
  • Satoshi will dump his bitcoins and marry CSW.
  • An asteroid will bring dinosaurs back.
1995  Other / Meta / Re: If the signature campaings are removed from the forum, will you stay or leave? on: December 09, 2021, 03:36:22 AM
This looks like a honeypot. I'm sure everyone who chose the first option will be banned, and everyone who chose the second option will be red-trusted for being dishonest.

I think I'm posting about as much now as I did before I joined the campaign, and I'd stay if all campaigns disappeared. But that would very different than not joining a campaign voluntarily, i.e. I'd probably participate less for reasons pointed out by Rikafip above... fewer shitheads to argue with etc.

However I don't think this would bring the end of the forum (I mean the disappearance of signatures, not me arguing with fewer shitheads). The forum will end with or without signatures. It will end because it's the RadioShack of social media. Average tubetwit person doesn't have the attention span for it. Nor do they want to read.
1996  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Freewallet.org - SCAMMERS CONFIRMED - Fraud group. on: December 08, 2021, 07:50:43 PM
Does anyone know how to report an app as a scam on google play?

https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/contact/takedown

You'd be wasting your time though. We're talking about Google, who allowed Bitconnect etc on Youtube and still allow all sorts of scammy shit on their platforms. They're not gonna do anything unless it threatens their revenue, so perhaps reporting to the FTC or some other alphabet (no pun intended) agency would be more efficient.

Edit: buying fake reviews... very naughty. Sort by "newest" and scroll to the beginning of August 2021 for example:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=doge.org.freewallet.app&showAllReviews=true

Normally they get a couple of reviews per week, often negative, and then boom, streams of ~10 reviews per day, all 5 stars.
1997  Economy / Services / Re: LoyceV's Avatar for Rent [first 🦊🦊2 YEARS🦊🦊 (141 weeks) rented out] on: December 08, 2021, 06:34:43 PM
No response from LoyceV - I knew that shoddy back alley alignment was no good.
1998  Other / Meta / Re: The curious case of the forum's three millionth user on: December 08, 2021, 03:46:22 PM

Russian accent would make it a dead giveaway but it's not difficult to fake nor can you trust anything the newbie sockpuppet says so I'm not gonna go there.
1999  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: December 08, 2021, 02:37:15 PM
Oh Bill absolutely loved everything about that game.  He is as old school as it gets in the modern NFL and he was probably licking his chops when he read the weather report earlier in the day.  The question I find myself asking is, if it weren't for the crazy snowy/windy weather they had, would the Patriots still have won the game? I think it's fair to ask.  Personally I still think the Bills are better, call me crazy.

They've won last 7, most in good weather, some against decent teams (Chargers/Browns/Titans, the latter two being blowouts). Their defense is excellent. I'm not a Patriots fan by any means but I think they are better than Bills at this point in the season. As for weather, that's part of the deal. If you can't play from mid-November (nearly half of the season), you're not a good team IMO.
2000  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Freewallet.org - SCAMMERS CONFIRMED - Fraud group. on: December 08, 2021, 01:13:19 PM
On December 3, I moved my funds to Free Wallet through the Korea Cryptocurrency Exchange.(I had purchased Bitcoin.)

Why did you use freewallet? Are you trying to convert the bitcoins back to fiat (dollars/won/etc) ?

1) Screenshots of your incoming transactions where we can see the hash, amount and the name of the sending service (another wallet, exchange and so on);
2) Photo of your identification document of the owner of the account: an international ID or a driver’s license (a photo of both sides).
3) Bank statement or utility bill where we can see your name and resident address. Information should be in English;
4) A photo of the owner of the account in front of the image “Attention” (attached below) on your computer monitor (if you use a web version of Freewallet) or near your mobile device with the app open so that we were able to see your user ID.

Ridiculous demands. A screenshot of a TX? A photo of a computer monitor?

This seems basically designed to frustrate legitimate customers for no good reason because the bad guys (whoever it is that freewallet pretends to confront with this KYC nonsense) would still be able to fake all that if they wanted to.
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