1) Can I vote for a delegate without being a standby delegate? 2) to vote for a delegate, do I need to register my name (100 lisk on the testnet) ? 3) how a profit sharing pool can see who vote for it? I don't know if it's worth to vote for a delegate without being one...  why because you are greedy and need to get something to do something for the community? Yes you can vote without being registered. All you need is lisk in your wallet. it's easy to see who voted for you, just because you don't know how to do it does not mean it can't happen. No, I am not greedy. I don't want t be a standby delegate but I read the forum and i have a list of people that I consider good delegates. I remembered that it wasn't so easy to search and look for people that voted for you...but maybe it was old testnet or maybe I am wrong. So...I am not greedy but you? Are you a delegate for glory? Well I vote for whoever wants a vote so I would say I'm less greedy then thinking it's not worth it unless I get something. The only people I hear that say it's not worth it use the same argument as you, "If I don't get anything then why should I vote?" You think you're the first to say that here? Vote or Don't Vote, that's up to you. Don't say you're not going to vote unless you get something. Just Don't vote. Here is a tool made by one of our wonderful lisk community members to check your votes. http://redsn0w.top/or this to check the network http://lisktools.io/ |
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1) Can I vote for a delegate without being a standby delegate? 2) to vote for a delegate, do I need to register my name (100 lisk on the testnet) ? 3) how a profit sharing pool can see who vote for it? I don't know if it's worth to vote for a delegate without being one... why because you are greedy and need to get something to do something for the community? Yes you can vote without being registered. All you need is lisk in your wallet. it's easy to see who voted for you, just because you don't know how to do it does not mean it can't happen. |
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Thousands of horny virgins will be released. maybe even...multiple thousands of them.  |
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Man, the real person who mods this thread must hate me a ton lol. I get so many damn posts removed it's crazy!  |
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if i didn't have a point or weren't right in pointing this out the banana user wouldn't say i'm trying to be smart. i appreciate that. others agreed with me and i'm glad i raised this.
Not a big thing to say that a project that hasn't even launched..... is not finished yet. ;-) i wouldn't had a point if there was so much misleading going on only thing trying to mislead anyone is you. Straight FUD from a Straight up Troll. |
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if i were to ignore i think about 5 users here this thread will become more intelligent otherwise all you see is
"look like you missed ico"
"to the moon"
"$2"
and that silly looking chart based on a IOU
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if i didn't have a point or weren't right in pointing this out the banana user wouldn't say i'm trying to be smart. i appreciate that. others agreed with me and i'm glad i raised this.
 This is the answer. |
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exactly then why mislead by saying you will have dapps at launch when you wont
Stop spreading lies, your FUD is not working here. There are already half a dozen Lisk dapps by the community, see them live in action on Lisk Youtube channel: i never said you can't build apps but you can't build dapps as the apps are not decentralized yet. that is to come later when who knows how can you have a dapp store without dapps, its a app store with apps and shit, never thought I'd be the grammar nazi but for a self proclaimed smarty pants, your grammar is horrendous. |
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first off I never said that I was smart enough to create a solution for it and by your attitude you seem to be in the same boat as me.
The only difference is that all you know how to do is complain instead of trying to push forward.
You are the standard douche bag internet smarty pants that the web seems to be crawling with, don't forget that.
One day maybe you'll grow up and be able to see outside you shitty box. insults doesn't make you right you call me a kid your posts shows the true kid if you say criticizing is complaining you need to learn more you probably gone neck deep in this and need this to work so badly so everytime you detect someone saying something bad you throw insults and talk crap its endless talking to you as you need this to work by your desperation it seems like you made a mistake investing here Nope, I just hate that the game on the internet now is to prove how smart you are so you can get fake props from other fake smarty pants on the internet. YOU ARE A POSER! see now your at it again assuming i'm not trying to prove how smart i am it doesn't take a genius to figure out what's going on here, like i said your desperate to me it sounds like your desperate for attention. You come to the lisk thread once and start bad mouthing the project and you think anyone gives a fuck what your opinion should be? No, you came here because you think you are important and smart. You obviously thought we would be impressed with your vast knowledge. You just broke 2 years of crypti work with one dapp vs. app argument, lol GENIUS! POSER lol attention was there some kinda of bounty i dont know about in revealing the flaw have i provided proof of code pointing where exactly i havent even shared my vast knowledge. il take that as a compliment that you think i'm smart it's obvious what your intentions are to dump by maximizing returns by talking BS and when it dont go your way you lead to insults. i think your just pissed this i coming to light anyway no point explaining to some one who so scared of losing his investment. il put you on ignore and continue posting. Standard tactic of a POSER. I'm so smart that I don't even have to explain it to you cause you're to dumb to understand. Meaning: I'm fucking too stupid to explain it so i'll just pretend. If you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle them with your bullshit and your bullshit smells strong. |
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first off I never said that I was smart enough to create a solution for it and by your attitude you seem to be in the same boat as me.
The only difference is that all you know how to do is complain instead of trying to push forward.
You are the standard douche bag internet smarty pants that the web seems to be crawling with, don't forget that.
One day maybe you'll grow up and be able to see outside you shitty box. insults doesn't make you right you call me a kid your posts shows the true kid if you say criticizing is complaining you need to learn more you probably gone neck deep in this and need this to work so badly so everytime you detect someone saying something bad you throw insults and talk crap its endless talking to you as you need this to work by your desperation it seems like you made a mistake investing here Nope, I just hate that the game on the internet now is to prove how smart you are so you can get fake props from other fake smarty pants on the internet. YOU ARE A POSER! see now your at it again assuming i'm not trying to prove how smart i am it doesn't take a genius to figure out what's going on here, like i said your desperate to me it sounds like your desperate for attention. You come to the lisk thread once and start bad mouthing the project and you think anyone gives a fuck what your opinion should be? No, you came here because you think you are important and smart. You obviously thought we would be impressed with your vast knowledge. You just broke 2 years of crypti development with one dapp vs. app argument, lol GENIUS! POSER PS. ask anyone who has been in this thread more than a minute, this is as nice as I get. I can get much worse. |
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first off I never said that I was smart enough to create a solution for it and by your attitude you seem to be in the same boat as me.
The only difference is that all you know how to do is complain instead of trying to push forward.
You are the standard douche bag internet smarty pants that the web seems to be crawling with, don't forget that.
One day maybe you'll grow up and be able to see outside you shitty box. insults doesn't make you right you call me a kid your posts shows the true kid if you say criticizing is complaining you need to learn more you probably gone neck deep in this and need this to work so badly so everytime you detect someone saying something bad you throw insults and talk crap its endless talking to you as you need this to work by your desperation it seems like you made a mistake investing here Nope, I just hate that the game on the internet now is to prove how smart you are so you can get fake props from other fake smarty pants on the internet. YOU ARE A POSER! What the fuck do you think LISK is? It is an attempt to create a solution to the issue you fucking self important prick. |
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I'm semi concerned about that too. But, I'm much more interested in seeing the project attempt to work through all of this and develop something meaningful. Further, I'm also really interested in seeing a roadmap and team update/tech update on the plans for the millions of dollars - what devs are being hired? What's the plan? Where is this going in the vision of the team in place currently. Right now there is not much brain power focused towards LISK - reading through this thread shows that 99% of the people here just want absurdly crazy ROI at any cost. Very little talk is about development or use cases almost all of it is just plain "moon for moon's sake". Curious to see what substance the team can put together for 5 million bucks. How funny LISK don't even have DAPPS javascript is not compatiable and this aint even FUD amazing the only real fud they have against ethereum is that solidity language they're using is not popular
there is a reason why vitalik didnt use JS for the back end because it wont work for their plan lisk can be coded to play games like hangman, free candy crusher or flipper remember FUN APPS not fun dapps
if you ask me they hyped up the coin for something they dont have
$5.9million for 1 year work nice wage maan
if you ask me rtcrypto how did they raise all that. i wasnt here from the start so dont really want to go back 600 pages but did they have some marketing campaign going on how did they hype all this to raise so much. well as a trader i'm not happy i never bought as a investor/developer happy i didn't. i couldn't buy this at ICO price if i had the chance without seeing what they have planned and seeing through their double meanings lol..there's no way a coin written in javascript will survive the strommin'.. yubikeys haxxors lol ..proofs?  Dear Fudders: gembitz, wasref, mxhwrSorry to break it to you, but JavaScript is the #1 choice for developing web applications these days. And with Node.js, JavaScript has spilled over to the server side. JavaScript interpreters have become quite advanced, so that Google's V8 engine is quite fast, fast enough to reside at the core of Node.js. I suggest you run to a nearby magazine stand and pick up this month's edition of Web Designer magazine to learn about future of JavaScript Apps: http://www.webdesignermag.co.uk/web-designer-245-on-sale-now/thanks will look at it see javascript is great for making apps a great UI and web apps etc but it being linked to crypto currency is the issue here. im sure they not building apps to make it look pretty it needs function well with crypto currencies. that's the challenge and most of us find it hard to see how it would work considering javascript when applied to crypto currency this is my concern "Javascript numbers are....not the greatest or most reliable. Especially when we are dealing with a crypto-currency, you really want your numbers to be on point. Basically JS uses floating point which means some things get approximated and digits get lost in certain cases. Here's some further reading: Be careful with big numbers & Floating point appoximation. So, the fact that everything in Lisk (including Lisk itself) is in Javascript, it means there are potentially big number problems (both in terms of big numbers and big problems)." lisk may be able to make great apps easily but deploying contracts etc using javascripts and cryptocurrency for those apps is going to be challenging. also they dont have dapps right now on launch they won't have dapps you can make apps. so the biggest concern you keep bringing up is the vocabulary used on dapps and apps? This is what happens in real life, Javascript has issues, some smart person comes around and CREATES a solution for that issue, Javascript has one less issue, REPEAT I remember what javascript was like before node.js, You think they didn't shout from the mountain tops that JS couldn't handle serverside shit before node.js? BIG NUMBER SOLUTION: bignumbers.js Shit happens and things get solved. Smart contracts are not the be all end all of crypto. It just happens to be the Buzzword of the times. to a regular person yes they would notice vocabulary but if you knew what dapps is and apps are then you know why im stating it. lisk states they have dapps and that youl be able to build dapps at launch when you clearly can't and liskHQ confirmed this indirectly. also there are many problems that need solutions ofcourse we can say yes we will solve it we will solve it but until it is actually solved nothing they don't say dont mean anything ofcourse if they say we work to do it fair enough but here you got the problem no solution and your claiming it will work thats misleading again. "Javascript has issues," yes it does when it comes to crypto currencies when it comes to apps no "some smart person comes around and CREATES a solution for that issue," yes i'm waiting for you to show me the solution and the smart person who does it. do you have the code and the person Javascript has one less issue" until there is one,there is the issue first off I never said that I was smart enough to create a solution for it and by your attitude you seem to be in the same boat as me. The only difference is that all you know how to do is complain instead of trying to push forward. You are the standard douche bag internet smarty pants that the web seems to be crawling with, don't forget that. One day maybe you'll grow up and be able to see outside you shitty box. |
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I'm semi concerned about that too. But, I'm much more interested in seeing the project attempt to work through all of this and develop something meaningful. Further, I'm also really interested in seeing a roadmap and team update/tech update on the plans for the millions of dollars - what devs are being hired? What's the plan? Where is this going in the vision of the team in place currently. Right now there is not much brain power focused towards LISK - reading through this thread shows that 99% of the people here just want absurdly crazy ROI at any cost. Very little talk is about development or use cases almost all of it is just plain "moon for moon's sake". Curious to see what substance the team can put together for 5 million bucks. How funny LISK don't even have DAPPS javascript is not compatiable and this aint even FUD amazing the only real fud they have against ethereum is that solidity language they're using is not popular
there is a reason why vitalik didnt use JS for the back end because it wont work for their plan lisk can be coded to play games like hangman, free candy crusher or flipper remember FUN APPS not fun dapps
if you ask me they hyped up the coin for something they dont have
$5.9million for 1 year work nice wage maan
if you ask me rtcrypto how did they raise all that. i wasnt here from the start so dont really want to go back 600 pages but did they have some marketing campaign going on how did they hype all this to raise so much. well as a trader i'm not happy i never bought as a investor/developer happy i didn't. i couldn't buy this at ICO price if i had the chance without seeing what they have planned and seeing through their double meanings lol..there's no way a coin written in javascript will survive the strommin'.. yubikeys haxxors lol ..proofs? Dear Fudders: gembitz, wasref, mxhwrSorry to break it to you, but JavaScript is the #1 choice for developing web applications these days. And with Node.js, JavaScript has spilled over to the server side. JavaScript interpreters have become quite advanced, so that Google's V8 engine is quite fast, fast enough to reside at the core of Node.js. I suggest you run to a nearby magazine stand and pick up this month's edition of Web Designer magazine to learn about future of JavaScript Apps: http://www.webdesignermag.co.uk/web-designer-245-on-sale-now/thanks will look at it see javascript is great for making apps a great UI and web apps etc but it being linked to crypto currency is the issue here. im sure they not building apps to make it look pretty it needs function well with crypto currencies. that's the challenge and most of us find it hard to see how it would work considering javascript when applied to crypto currency this is my concern "Javascript numbers are....not the greatest or most reliable. Especially when we are dealing with a crypto-currency, you really want your numbers to be on point. Basically JS uses floating point which means some things get approximated and digits get lost in certain cases. Here's some further reading: Be careful with big numbers & Floating point appoximation. So, the fact that everything in Lisk (including Lisk itself) is in Javascript, it means there are potentially big number problems (both in terms of big numbers and big problems)." lisk may be able to make great apps easily but deploying contracts etc using javascripts and cryptocurrency for those apps is going to be challenging. also they dont have dapps right now on launch they won't have dapps you can make apps. so the biggest concern you keep bringing up is the vocabulary used on dapps and apps? This is what happens in real life, Javascript has issues, some smart person comes around and CREATES a solution for that issue, Javascript has one less issue, REPEAT I remember what javascript was like before node.js, You think they didn't shout from the mountain tops that JS couldn't handle serverside shit before node.js? BIG NUMBER SOLUTION: bignumbers.js Shit happens and things get solved. Smart contracts are not the be all end all of crypto. It just happens to be the Buzzword of the times. |
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I'm semi concerned about that too. But, I'm much more interested in seeing the project attempt to work through all of this and develop something meaningful. Further, I'm also really interested in seeing a roadmap and team update/tech update on the plans for the millions of dollars - what devs are being hired? What's the plan? Where is this going in the vision of the team in place currently. Right now there is not much brain power focused towards LISK - reading through this thread shows that 99% of the people here just want absurdly crazy ROI at any cost. Very little talk is about development or use cases almost all of it is just plain "moon for moon's sake". Curious to see what substance the team can put together for 5 million bucks. How funny LISK don't even have DAPPS javascript is not compatiable and this aint even FUD amazing the only real fud they have against ethereum is that solidity language they're using is not popular
there is a reason why vitalik didnt use JS for the back end because it wont work for their plan lisk can be coded to play games like hangman, free candy crusher or flipper remember FUN APPS not fun dapps
if you ask me they hyped up the coin for something they dont have
$5.9million for 1 year work nice wage maan
if you ask me rtcrypto how did they raise all that. i wasnt here from the start so dont really want to go back 600 pages but did they have some marketing campaign going on how did they hype all this to raise so much. well as a trader i'm not happy i never bought as a investor/developer happy i didn't. i couldn't buy this at ICO price if i had the chance without seeing what they have planned and seeing through their double meanings I can't speak for anybody else, but I can tell you exactly why I bought into the ICO: 1. My first impression was that they are pretty good and really smart in marketing. While that can be a red flag if we think about shady projects it's a huge pro in serious and legit projects. Because it needs the ability to raise attention, not just to attract Investors but also Developers. 2. The team: Because I could not know if they are serious or shady I've read interviews and posts and then I was 100% sure that they are serious about this, that they will do all they can to make it successful. Of course, that doesn't say much about their abilities to do it, but in general my impression was and still is: It all is very thought out. 3. Regarding the tech: I'm not a tech guy but I think a lot about the natural conflicts between centralization and decentralization and my own theory is: It's not possible to be effective and totally decentralized at the same time. I believe that the best way is to have a decentralized core-Blockchain, simple and stable, but centralized applications that just anchor in the core chain. If you take Bitcoin for example: It's possible and not too hard to build on top of it. And many projects do that, like Factom for example which I know best. Multiple projects, some with their own blockchain and some without can do this without bloating the Bitcoin-Blockchain but securing itself in it, benefit from the huge security of the Bitcoin-Blockchain. The thing about it is: Some of those projects can fail, some can succeed, it won't ever hurt the Core. And: The economy stays decentralized because it's not just one economy. Ethereum does it the other way around. It's all on the blockchain, the tech can mess up because in my eyes it's overcomplex, it's one big economy and with the PoS-model they will switch to, I believe that even if the tech should work, the economy will lead into a centralizing effect. That's why I prefer projects that keep it simple at the core while making it possible to grow beyond itself. Regarding node.js: I've asked a friend of mine who is a skilled Dev and under the line he said nearly exactly what Max said in this reply: http://ethereum.stackexchange.com/questions/2104/how-does-lisk-differ-from-ethereum/3176#3176 That it's all about how skilled they are with it. My hope is that they will hire more good Devs and then: If the core will be stable I don't see much reason to believe this project will fail. Dapps can fail in many ways but that won't hurt the potential of Lisk. 4. Crypti: I didn't even know about it. But while the fork is something that was criticized a lot I see a huge pro in it. The reason is simple: Crypti obviously worked well regarding the tech. At least I don't have other informations. It was just totally under the radar and the best projects will die without attention. So I also see a pro in the strategy to do exactly that (marketing) better with Lisk and obviously they know how to do it. 5. Usecases: Will Lisk be a project for the big companies, like banks and so on? I don't expect that. But if we think about the gaming sector, just for example, it can be big business and big money. And there are a lot of other use cases that have the potential to be part of a growing "Lisk-economy". It will be all about attracting Developers. 6. Conclusion: Is Lisk a safe bet? No. There is not a single project that is safe. We are in a high-risk-market. But if the core will be stable, if they attract and/or hire skilled Developers, I believe to see a lot of potential. And while it may be the complexity that could kill other projects, the simplicity of Lisk could turn out as big strength. That's really the main-reason why I bought into the ICO. agree 1000% |
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To me one of her key points is the FUD about Lisk dapp zip files. She is saying that because Lisk dapp files are not permanent fixtures on the Lisk mainchain (as ETH dapps are on the ETH mainchain), how do you know you are loading a clean Lisk dapp from a zip file you get from elsewhere? This is actually a valid point. So...does the capability exist now in Lisk to put in the main Lisk blockchain during dapp registration an MD5 hash or similar for the offchain Lisk dapp zip file? Can such a capability be added? Is should such a capability needed? (I think yes...) Max, your response was great, you looked professional and made her look she looked shrill and weak. Your best line: Yes, I'm glad that those two guys at Google never started their company because there were so many great search engines back then with hundreds of employees.  Hey man, I liked hotbot.com  |
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Looks like the Co-Founder of MyEtherWallet.com is trying hard to smear Lisk to keep her ETH wallet business from collapsing. Someone please respond on stackexchange to defend Lisk and let us know so we can upvote your answer. that girl is a joke. In her statements she only has one small line talking about lisk but then 3 paragraphs talking about eth. Then even in the what/who is lisk? section she just uses it as a platform to praise eth. if you look at the page, the first statement is "I'm not a huge fan of lisk" lol, very objective. This girl is as stupid as can be. yeah, and i'd never heard of her before Lisk came along. what's the betting she's hedged? must be milking the lisk vs. eth for everything it's worth. |
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These pictures are utterly ridiculous, and most unfortunate, shameful for Lisk and Max. You should delete them before they are distributed to other corners. Look at their profiles, what have each accomplished. Mr. Buterin is a proven mathematician and cryptographer who has held countless presentations, wrote outstanding academic papers and has been involved in technical discussion at the highest level over the past years, and you reduce him to visuals and being 'pumped' or not. How utterly primitive. Max on the other hand has just finished university studies and has no experience whatsoever at a deeper intellectual level, say technological understanding. He is a young aspiring business man, pumped up to bring Lisk to Life. Wish him luck, may this experience be his stepping stone. Attract/pay the right people Max!
There is one thing Max is leading the competition: He has abandoned 2 projects. Perhaps there soon will be 3  Popcorn time when/if Lisk will be distributed... Let's see your resume bitard. My friend, I don't want to shock you. Therefore - sorry to say that my resume has to remain private. Good luck with your learning by doing. LOL come at me bro, I don't think you could shock me. I know many rich/successful people. micro resume to match your micro dick right? Everyone thinks they are so much fucking smarter than everyone else here. When will the madness end. If you are smart then you know project failure happens even to the smartest of asshats. It's even better to have failed multiple times than to be a success right away. Being resilient, smart enough, and lucky are more important than having the highest IQ. Some people just have no luck and I guarantee you are not smarter than this guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Langan |
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These pictures are utterly ridiculous, and most unfortunate, shameful for Lisk and Max. You should delete them before they are distributed to other corners. Look at their profiles, what have each accomplished. Mr. Buterin is a proven mathematician and cryptographer who has held countless presentations, wrote outstanding academic papers and has been involved in technical discussion at the highest level over the past years, and you reduce him to visuals and being 'pumped' or not. How utterly primitive. Max on the other hand has just finished university studies and has no experience whatsoever at a deeper intellectual level, say technological understanding. He is a young aspiring business man, pumped up to bring Lisk to Life. Wish him luck, may this experience be his stepping stone. Attract/pay the right people Max!
There is one thing Max is leading the competition: He has abandoned 2 projects. Perhaps there soon will be 3 Popcorn time when/if Lisk will be distributed... Let's see your resume bitard. |
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Always funny when bdead folks are trying to shoot and are hitting their own foot. If Ethereum would be useless, then lisk would be useless too. But Coindesk is not saying that Ethereum is useless. Coindesk is saying that some folks are expecting too much from smart contracts. "So according to his article, Lisk can do everything ethereum can do + more"Lisk is not even mentioned in that article. Reading comprehension is a special gift, not everybody is gifted with. But what can you expect from.. Lol before insulting people about reading comprehension you should be able to do the same thing. Smart Contracts = STUPID. LISK =/= Smart Contracts You understand that retard? When Smart Contract == STUPID then DAPP backend == STUPID When DAPP backend == STUPID then DAPP == STUPID I really feel compassion for you. Good luck, you'll need it No you're still retarded. smart contract =/= DAPP in LISK only in shitty ETH. |
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