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2901  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to start trading with 2 BTC? What is the first step? on: January 02, 2020, 05:07:25 AM
You mentioned that you are Newbie in trading. So my suggestion is don't invest all your btc in trading. You can hold 1btc for future.use 1btc for trading. This technique will be helpful for you. To learn trading you can read this section. Also try to watch video about trading.try to trade only top rated coin to avoid huge loss.Also don’t invest all of your btc in one altcoin.                 
that the best suggestions how ever if he really think about the future earnings OP should invest that amount in real world bussiness not to buy any crypto currency.
I mean if you have BTC use the 1 BTC for real world bussiness thats not small amount to start a business start your journey in real world and risk only half of it in crypto.

We have a different strategy how do we earn a profit, buying a large amount of bitcoin with a lower price is more profitable, but it depends on the person how do they handle this huge coin to get a lot of money. In trading, we have different techniques about how do we earn a profit. If the price of the bitcoin fall, it is better to hold for a while to avoid loss of income. But if you want continuously earning money, try to trade your bitcoin into altcoin because, in this kind of market price, altcoins are the best on short term trading si still you can earn money while the bitcoin is low.
2902  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Crypto volatile again, Whats stopping you from trying Options Trading? on: January 02, 2020, 04:26:04 AM
I got to know this options trading this day because one of the platform/exchange that i use to trade open a simulation for options but i don't really get what is put and call in that options where there is a difference in both price. Another thing that i want to ask if this option is based on bitcoins price as well. Thank you.

Cryptocurrency is volatile, and we cannot expect what kind of value it will give to us. However, still many people are trying to invest in the different coin because they see the potential of each currency that it will provide them with a profit; it depends on the price of the market. Trading is an exchange of money into different cryptocurrencies, this time, this kind of method usually people use to earn money; they are buying a lot of coins for a lower value and wait for it to becomes profitable and sell. Even this kind of process looks like easy still we need to take a lot of knowledge and skills when do we buy and sell to gain profit, not all the time traders can gain a lot of income because of falling of price.
2903  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to make big profits from exchanging bitcoin to altcoins on: January 01, 2020, 04:14:41 PM
I was one of the victims of a group pump like that, it was clear that such groups were very dangerous. Because as I experienced I have run
out of capital, not to mention usually such a group has its costs. So the losses received can be doubled. My advice avoid from group pumps
are like that, because the one who benefits is the owner of the group. Because he already bought the coins first, that will be most victims
are its members that group. Especially newbies who are new to trading and want instant profits. Safer trading by relying on one's own abilities,
by analyzing one's own market. I'm sure the results are more accurate than following the group signal pump that drains our capital.
It is a shame that newbies fall prey of scammers like that, but even if it was an expensive lesson you learned something out of it, you learned that you cannot rely on anyone else to tell you how to make money in the markets and that you need to find how to make money by yourself, this can take time but not only you will find what you are looking for it is also extremely satisfying when you make money in the markets and you know that it was all because of your efforts and not because you relied on anyone else and you know as well luck had nothing to do with it.

Trading becomes more laborious if the value of the coin is not profitable like today; the price of the bitcoin in the middle of the year of 2019 gives a massive income to their investor, but today the price of the bitcoin does not show any profit. Many people are now struggling with their money, and the bitcoin again comes in a long term investment. The people want continuously earning instead of bitcoin. They use altcoin as a source of income; the price of altcoin too is volatile but not too much large amount, and by this, many investors use altcoin for daily trading, even the profit is not huge.
2904  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: it's so hard trading my day now! on: January 01, 2020, 03:20:28 PM
If you find it difficult to trade, then you should have sufficient knowledge about the trade If you trade without knowing anything then you will be the loser This is why you need to adopt different strategies such as trading before trading analyze different places to trade. See the trading tips You can read different books and also learn about trade by watching videos I look forward to seeing where they are going wrong so there is a loss in everything.

Today it is hard now to trade and gain a lot of profit in cryptocurrency because many people now are holding their coins because of different reasons. By this kind of action, the market affectedly, and the price of the coins is going down. However, many people still want to earn more profit while the price is low, and then they made daily trading. Even we are knowledgeable and skilled in trading, but the price in the market does not give good value; still, we cannot get any money. One of the best ideas is to hold our coins and avoid trading for now and wait for the price rise again.
2905  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: NEVER EVER deal Bitcoins with PAYPAL (F&F too!) on: January 01, 2020, 02:44:34 PM
A good reminder for anyone who is dealing the same thing. Yes, with Paypal.
They won't be liable with those losses and they wont care even if you put a ticket a million times over.

Now, this had been already a thing before and that is why they don't prefer this kind of method anymore.
I mean, what are exchange for nowadays? Ain't it the same and you are dealing with the exchange and not directly with a human being.


One of the excellent payment transaction today is the PayPal this application is a wallet that converted those transferred money depends on the country you are. Many people use this because it's connect connected to bank accounts; that's why many use this to buy things online. To make a transaction with the use of this medium, it depends on both party who is the one who sends the payment first, after sending the verification of the other party for having proof of payment then the other party will do their part too. By this kind of way of the transaction and the use of technology, it is easy now to manipulate the things we see through online, and there are a lot of scammers now doing this kind of activity. To make sure the transaction, it is better to have a meet up with a witness to avoid scam or get a middle man that handles the trade to make it sure.
2906  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: So I created a Trading bot and it's doing 8% a month on: January 01, 2020, 01:55:27 PM
Oh no, I wouldn't dare to deposit $50 to that. I will not take the risk with my own money and will cry at the end. To be honest, trading bots aren't profitable as they are promoting it. The OP stated % profits which I highly doubt.

However, if you want to know some trusted trading bots. Try to read this article as it stated some feedbacks, backgrounds of each best trading bot that have mentioned in the article.
I have nothing against the OP, it is good to see people developing a software especially when it contains something useful for the crypto and traders actually $20 is quite lower compare to others that has a monthly billing. What I am doubtful about is the $50 minimum initial take with bot and the claim that it is gaining 8% a month, most probably that is just a series of good trade for 8% every month so that does not count.


We all know today that trading is tough work even you are trading for a short term or long term it takes a lot of things to consider like always need to be updated in the market price, which coin will good for the trading technique we use and also check if we are earning. Today many people getting tired by this process and find some easy way to make a trade and earn money without doing anything, and this is the trading bot. This machine automatically generates a trade if the price is pumping and holding the coin if it is dumping. This kind of device is beneficial because you can be productive at other things at the same time you are earning. Using a trading bot is risky too because if then programmer manipulates the algorithm of the bot, it can cause a lot of losses and damage to your income. Still, I will prefer to continue learning in trading instead of losing and risking my money.
2907  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will You Bet Or Gamble Before New Year, Or On The New Year on: January 01, 2020, 11:45:58 AM
I want to know will you gamble before the year-end to try to get the most before the year-end or will you prefer to gamble after the new year to welcome the year, or will you prefer to do both, I'm having second thought betting before the year-end I might end up empty-handed, coming to the new year, and I'm also having second thought gambling in a new year I might end up starting the year with a lost. 
I have not gambled since mid-December 2019, I'm just afraid I will lose. because my small family and I need a sizable fee in the new year, I have to go home to my parents' house, and right now I'm gathering with my extended family in my hometown.  maybe I will gamble again at the end of January 2020, when my energy and mind recover.

If I have time after my work or if there is a break time, I commonly play online gambling with the use of real currency, and I use the extra money I have so I can play without hesitation to lose some money. Before the new year start, I prepare all the things I needed to be more comfortable when I'm playing. When the countdown is coming, I start my gambling game, having a lot of experience and skills also in playing gambling. I can use this as an advantage because that information can be used to beat the opponents, after the game two minutes after the count down I welcome the new year with a profit on my wallet. In playing gambling from the start we are playing with risk, so it is better to fight than to retreat; still we should control our selves to avoid loss of money.
2908  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Lottery In Your Place on: January 01, 2020, 11:03:07 AM
Want to know how many kind of Lotto we have here in the Philippines?
Here it is
Ultra Lotto 6/58
Superlotto 6/49
Lotto 6/42
Grand Lotto 6/55
Megalotto 6/45
6Digit
4Digit
Suertres Lotto (3digit)
EZ2 Lotto (2digit)

The 2 digit and 3 digit game is drawn 3 times a day.

Trivia: The 2 digit lotto was made to compete with the illegal numbers game that is popular in the province called jueteng. However, this only made their (illegal number games operator) operations easier because they don't need to draw the number by themselves. They just wait for the number drawn by the Government and they collect the bets.


A lottery is one of the best gambling game of all time because this game can test your luck. In a different country, there are lottery that is supported by the government like in the Philippines they have a different option of your lottery-like, Ez2 Lotto that if there are a lot of numbers. You must predict just two numbers to win the game. If you got the correct combination, you could earn almost five dollars, but there's more they have the Ultra lotto 6/58 that you must get a six right combination, and you become a millionaire in just a single ticket. The lottery is the best game of all time but still many people getting addicted in this game because of the price they can earn in just a single paper.
2909  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What kind of crypto trading do you recommend with $50 investment? on: January 01, 2020, 09:34:00 AM
Depends on the experience, if you already good at trading and know the nature of the current market, 50$ is really enough for altcoin trading. I'm not recommend for investment since investment right now most of them are scam and you will never get the 100% ROI. So, i think casual trading on some big exchanges like binance or kucoin is the best for 50$ value.
You need to have a lots of time to understand the market and on how will you get the chance of getting good strategy to work. There are lots of knowledge that you need to acquire but it's achievable if you are keen of getting deeper and with what you have said that you are not aiming for quicker and bigger profits that's a good start.

Cryptocurrency is one of the most significant investments from over three years because of the profit it gave from the previous year. One of these coins is bitcoin this coin cane from the lowest price and after by years the price slowly increasing, and many people see the potential of this coin, and now it gives a huge profit to its investors. The price of the bitcoin today is facing a problem; the price is continuously falling in down because of many factors like holding a massive amount of bitcoin. This opportunity is good for the investors because you can buy a bitcoin with a low value and hold for a long when and wait the price becomes profitable. This is one of the investment techniques we can use in cryptocurrency.
2910  Economy / Economics / Re: Why Cryptocurrency threatens governments on: December 31, 2019, 10:25:15 AM
What makes a government powerful, the economy they've developed. This happens through various sources, and through different law enforcement that benefits people as well as the government. This lets the entire country to obey anything and everything put forth by the ruling government broadcasting their majority. When everything happens through the decentralized means the importance of government will get affected. This is the understanding, but I believe governments won't miss their importance if they're doing right things to the people. Just on two factors such as terrorism and unable to tax the users government finds it to be a threat.


The cryptocurrency today is one of the highest prices in the market and by this many people caught by the news came from other people that they've got a lot of money by using this currency. Even another country now are adopting the use of cryptocurrency because they saw the potential of it that can give a lot of money and improvement in their transactions if they use this, we are now heading towards to the development of the community. Cryptocurrency is a money that converts into digital currency and supported by different coins like bitcoin, ethreum and other alternative coin that can gives profit depends on the market. But in some reason, the government in the other countries does not accept the use of cryptocurrency because in many reasons like the real information or the kyc. It is better to be safe and recorded all the transaction today because there is a lot of scamming and other crime uses of wrong or other information so the government cannot identify who and where is the money came from.
2911  Economy / Economics / Re: Is small business ready to sell for cryptocurrency? on: December 31, 2019, 08:24:51 AM
New businesses may want to use the advertising power of bitcoin. For example, if I opened a new business, I would accept bitcoin. Bitcoin already has a popularity. It would be ridiculous not to use it. We need to be close to new technologies.

That's true, didn't even think of it from that angle - blending into technological advancements. Still, I perceive not many of them with such a marketing strategy can last long when they discover the intricate volatility that plagues the market.
using bitcoin for payment systems is still not legal in European countries, only Japan and Russia have provided the opportunity for bitcoin so far, but it is still not 100% approved, especially in the ASIA country we are still struggling, if you start a business about bitcoin, you must have permission first

   To start a business you need permissions in both ways, for using fiat and cyrpto-currencies. I am watching videos on Twitter how
people pays with crypto-currencies, mostly those videos comes from big cities around the world. It's always like that, first big cities
will adopt it, later it will spread everywhere else. Maybe we will have to wait years for that, but that is where are we going.

Many countries now are accepting the use of cryptocurrency and the latest is the china that supports the use of it, is there any changes in the community if a country accepts the bitcoin or other coins?. Yes, it is because the companies can choose they will use cryptocurrency as payment, or they will choose the traditional way of salary. Also, the stores nearby to us if they will use the crypto as a payment for their products and services it is efficient to us as people who use cryptocurrency. Still, there is a problem about this it is the price, the price of the cryptocurrency is volatile only few coins are stable there is a chance that the value of each currency falls and becomes good as a source of income.
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2913  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Psychological Mistake of the Beginners Traders on: December 30, 2019, 11:16:23 AM
Try to over trade due to their greediness which could become risk to their inital capital so have to stick with their strategies and make trading time period less often to decrease the risk of losing capital unexpectedly.
Trading can also end up in addiction if the person is unable to control his or her trading time and money. As far as new traders are concerned, indeed they often make these silly mistakes of investing too much into coins for great and immediate returns without keeping in mind that market can go against them. They do lose good amount of money when the coin starts falling down because the team is not updating it. They shall invest small in the beginning.
That's because they only spend their money to buy only one type of coin, don't put eggs in one basket,
we know the term but many beginners don't practice it. So that when a price drops, the value of his assets will also plummet.

One of the rising earnings today is the use of cryptocurrency this kind of exchange gives a lot of profit to the users that provide a lot of investments. In cryptocurrency, there are three methods of earnings, first is the stake, where you buy any amount of the coin that you want in the low price and sell it when the price becomes profitable. the second one is the gambling, this is the best to the people who love play card games and dice they can wage all the money they want, but this time it is more risk because it depends on your knowledge and skills in playing if you will win or not. Lastly is the trading, it is the same as the investment, but the more problem is when you will sell or buy your coins. Not all the time the cryptocurrency gives a volatile price and also it is hard to predict many people trusting their guts to sell if it is the right time to buy or to sell. This kind of strategy is perilous because we are talking about money, if you make one mistake, it can cause of loss of your income.
2914  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading Tips for Traders here on: December 30, 2019, 04:27:04 AM
Quote
Never Spend too Much

You have to make sure you are regulating the money you are spending. It is very easy to overspend and make a loss if you aren't careful, and this is why you need to make sure you set yourself a budget before you begin. This is something you need to make sure you get right as soon as possible, and it can help you to get the best possible outcome.

Most important of all.
It ain't gambling anymore or if you do think it is then go on. Have a blast.

Budget should be enough of what you can spend only. Never even try to spend the savings money or the daily budget for food and bills.
I learned from experience already.
It became like gambling to me. Although I am not addicted to trading, I just really want my money back so bad.

It is not hard today to find information about trading because, by the innovation of technology, we have now an internet. By the use of search engines we can now type a word of trading techniques and trading tips, there is a lot of information will give to us. In trading, we must be knowledgeable because we don't want to risk all of our money and waste in just a single mistake of trading. Knowledge the best key to success in trading if we are always updated what is happening in the market and the environment in cryptocurrency, we will avoid loss of income. Next is choose the best coin suits for your trading, not all the coin is good for short term and long term trading, this is one common mistake of the other beginner trading, they are investing in bitcoin for a short term investment, but it is for long term investment. Lastly is always trust your trading and don't get feared about what is happening in the market. Some people are pulling out their investment because they saw the price of the coin is dropping.
2915  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trade with planning on: December 29, 2019, 12:42:29 PM
A lot of traders out there try to jump into trading and when they lose they get out equally quickly. Instead of all this it is way better to figure things out before jumping in. This is quite doable with proper guide and that’s what I found with this https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/turning-forex-into-a-side-gig-guide-for-beginner-traders/, I believe it is going to be extremely helpful for a lot of traders here.
Of course! Everything do really need a plan specially with trading which it isnt really an easy thing when it comes to basic knowledge or we do call basics of the basics then i do go with Babypips.com.

To do trading, we must consider a lot of things. If we are a newbie in cryptocurrency trading, we must read a lot of things that contribute to our knowledge of trading. Today it is not hard to find sources of information on the internet because, by just a single search, there is a lot of information given to us. Trading is an exchange of coins into different coins, and by this kind of process, it can give profit depends on the value of both currency. We must consider too what coin do we need to trade because not all of the coin is suited for short term trading, and not all of the currency is good for long term trading. To make sure all of the activities we are doing is cryptocurrency will benefit us, to make sure those trade also consult with the trading experts to avoid loss of income.
2916  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How Do You Make Money With Bitcoin? on: December 29, 2019, 10:59:32 AM
My primary method to make money through Bitcoin is anyday trading. Because of the high volatility, taking up trades isn't that tough but uncertainty makes it a bit unpredictable. But still it all worth it if you are a bit careful with risk and reward ratio and stick to he goal.
Another way I make btc is through these campaigns on bitcointalk. This isn't a big amount. But whatever i earn I invest in back and expand my portfolio. So this way is in one way related to the primary one only.

For having a long time in cryptocurrency to earn bitcoin, I'm doing first is to buy a bitcoin when the price is low, today the cost of the bitcoin is good for investment because it reaches seven thousand dollars. By this, I can earn a lot of profit when the coin rise again. After getting a bitcoin, I will convert it into another cryptocurrency like an altcoin because I do not get any profit to the bitcoin today because of the low price. Before I focus on trading, I will do some research and study if there are any changes in the market, so I will keep updated on what is happening in the market. If I already trade and invest my money and just waiting what is the output if I will get a profit. If the price of all coin is low, I will hold those coins to avoid loss of income; while waiting, I will play gambling to earn extra money, too, so the flow of funds is continuous.
2917  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Stop Loss, A life saver or a evil? on: December 28, 2019, 05:23:15 AM
For me stop loss is saver, so I must use it for better result. About 2 years a go I make mistake and lost 49% from my fund because ignore stop loss. I keep hold when market slowly but sure goes down. The problem is I use small range and because this I believe the price will rise and the reality is really bad. If I set it I only loss 10% and I regret it very deep. Stop loss create as break to stop, no break no safety.
Of course, the example you are telling is a very typical example of stop loss being a savior for all of us in trading, it helps us to reduce the loss rate to the level we want and maintains some capital to be able to enter the market in times of market revival. However, only those who have felt the pain of loss without stopping loss understand this, those who fall into coincidence times, the loss becomes thorns, even making them miss the moment of revival will not understand, in general, we need a process to understand the importance of stop loss
Trading up on the way of being too meticulous and very strict when it comes to fund management then you wont definitely forget on setting up a stop loss.We know that this will limit out on how deep the loss would it be but here on crypto you should know on how to place it up yet volatility will easily eat you since movement can swing up on bigger percents compared to other markets.

Good thing with SL is that you can definitely still have the chance of recovery since you havent still blown out your entire capital or account.
SL would be good for short or day traders though but it isnt really that needed for Hodlers.

In cryptocurrency, this is a game with full of risk it depends on your luck and to your self how to do you will earn a profit on using crypto. We have a two kind of earnings in crypto first is the gambling this time it can test your luck and if you know how to play gambling games better to try this because this is fun and a lot of excitement. Next is the trading this one can give you a daily profit or a long term profit, in short term trading you can use altcoins to trade and get a regular income, in long term trading it takes a lot of time before you get your money. Not all the time a cryptocurrency holder always have their profit on each transaction, and this can cause of loss of income that is bad, still many traders and gamblers use this failure as a stepping stone to bring back to the top, but most of them fail and getting too much loss and debt.
2918  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC- When it back to 20k on: December 28, 2019, 03:39:46 AM
I think the only option is to forget about it for now and just wait for sometime. I'm sure bitcoin will recover in the near future. Or you can use some of it in trading other coins/project that you believe in. Cheers.
if you buy it too high and you lose 50% more I think you don't sell it, switch strategies with a focus on assets that is doubling your bitcoin that way it will be effective I think
It is not good if you lose your 50 percent so better keep holding than making yourself lose your money. I think we should prefer investing at dip than being worry and sell. The more you hold the more our investment will be good. We should wait I am sure all investors will get chance to recover the entire market price fall, to see $20k we have to keep patience

In investing in cryptocurrency make sure we are aware of the price rate of the coin, in cryptocurrency, we must know what the best coin that suits to our desired investment like for short term investment for altcoin is good for this. Still, if we want to invest in bitcoin it takes a long time before we got our earning, it is good if you are already spending a lot of money then the price of the bitcoin is low because it gives you a lot of profit when the price grows up. Investing in cryptocurrency, you must be aware of a price in the market because you must be updated when it is the right time to pull it out all of your money and try for another investment. One of the significant problems of the people who see the price goes down is pulling out their money. This kind of panic can make a loss of income because the price is getting low, your investment may be affected, and then with the transaction fee and another deduction. Don't mind about the price if it falls better to hold your coin and wait for an excellent price to pull out with a profit.
2919  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Time for YouTube to vanish ... on: December 27, 2019, 05:26:34 AM
There are some things in this world we find ourselves that might be very difficult to vanish from our ecosystem. Youtube for instance, is one platform that can not vanish from our ecosystem. And I don't really think these channels promoting cryptocurrencies were just deleted for no reasons. Probably the owners of these channels violated some of the rules of youtube.  With violation of rules, your channel is at high risk of getting shut down. Please try to get enough evidence to back your claims and aquisations.

The world of cryptocurrency now is facing a huge problem. In having content on youtube about that is related in cryptocurrency. I think most of us heard about banning of cryptocurrency content on youtube, and this issue now is going bigger and many people affected on this kind of action. The people who want to learn about blockchain and cryptocurrency is searching on the internet how to improve their knowledge and skill. So if they face in the real situation of trading, they know what to do. Still, I think most of us don't want to read a lot of articles to instead we are watching videos in youtube to gain more information. According to the statement of the youtube tells that they don't want to risk most of the people who want to use cryptocurrency because this is full of risk they can't even know where is the money came from. They want to secure their platform too to avoid some future issues of crime because of cryptocurrency.
2920  Economy / Economics / Re: Can not believe 5 years ago you could of bought one whole bitcoin for this much! on: December 27, 2019, 03:02:29 AM
For $651~ you could of got yourself a shiny whole bitcoin on coinbase plus their $6.66 fee.
I wouldnt of mind paying this fee on top regardless.
Even if they were asking 10% of the purchase amount at the time which is probably more by now. Wink


We can't continue to regret about the past, it's time to look into the future.  If you can't buy 1 btc now,buy a fraction.  Imagine when it get to $30,000/btc, that would make some person give up on purchasing it.
Whenever you get the information about an investment, is the right time for you.  Regret no more and take action now
Indeed you can't just bring up the past because it will just make you feel bad for not taking that opportunity but now that you know that bitcoin is a really promising coin you should invest in it, exert time and effort in studying its movement, its price along with altcoins that will be affected by its price and also watch out for altcoins out in the market where has the same potential as bitcoin so that you will not regret not buying it once thay altcoin booms.

If we are trying to look back at the bitcoin, the price of the coin before is just nothing, and many people ignore it because of the price. Many people are trying to invest in this coin because they see the potential of it. After a few days, months and years, the cost of the bitcoin is slowly pumping, and no one can recognize it, so only a few people know about it. In the year 2017, this is the time when the bitcoin becomes accessible to the people because the price reaches for over twelve thousand dollars and that was so huge. Those investors who put a lot of money to buy bitcoin becomes a millionaire and change their life because of just a single coin. And good to know those people become successful in their long term investment. Even the price of the bitcoin is low still grab the opportunity to invest in those coins that has a potential that gives us a considerable amount of value in the future.
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