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2921  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Sell your Bitcoins on: October 01, 2011, 01:18:39 PM
I don't know that I would trust the sell advice of someone named "bitcoinbear"! I'm not selling my bitcoins too eagerly (unless I'm making points on the sale).

The problem is trust: BTC is indisputable and irrevocable - once you have sent them, they are gone. The same goes for sticking cash in an envelope and mailing it to someone. (The same goes for wiring money to an exchange too, while exchanges have been mostly trustworthy, what about they day they just disappear?) You have to trust the recipient will fulfill their end of the bargain when you don't have any authority to complain to.

You can look at http://bitcoin-otc.com/ to see the reputation of independent buyers, which is as good as it gets if you don't want to be there in person to exchange money and don't want to use an exchange.
2922  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Wish Me Luck! I Just Spent Nearly $2000 On Bitcoins! on: October 01, 2011, 01:08:01 PM
The buy price of the BTC was $13.21. As you can see, there were a few opportunities to sell for profit after the purchase, but the price hasn't been there since July:


Also the OP posted about the purchase June 19, and last logged on June 21. Looks like they weren't interested too long...

Any overvalued eBay auctions were probably fraudulent non-paying joke bidders or bidders that were planning on reversing the PayPal payment after they got their BTC.
2923  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Sapphire 5830 Xtreme for sale for BTC on: October 01, 2011, 12:53:35 PM
I saw the date. I just had to post 10 posts before I can PM members. So I did. I would like to buy something someone is selling on this forum. But I can contact them due to the forum rules. I read the rules very carefully and honestly I think this rule is a bit silly. I understand they are trying to get ride of spam, but by forcing people to make posts just for the sake of posts well... is that really better than spam? 

You can also click on the user account, and look at their last posts and how long ago they logged in. The user posting the video card for sale last posted to the forum in June - most likely the card is no longer for sale and the user is not an active participant on the forums.
2924  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: hot 5870 on: October 01, 2011, 12:47:17 PM
Besides the GPU fan, you also need adequate case cooling - putting 200 watts of heat into your computer case is not a good idea unless you have the case fans to remove it. A couple 120mm fans are probably the minimum.
2925  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I really need help, Having trouble with Bitcoin 0.4.0 after i configured with Gu on: October 01, 2011, 12:39:34 PM
It sounds like what your are attempting to do is solo mine, which is completely impractical unless you have racks of mining servers.

What you will want to to is join a mining pool. Here is an explanation of how one works. You set up a user account on the pool, set up individual miner logins for your miner, and use those credentials in your mining software to connect. After you have earned Bitcoins, you can have them sent to your wallet address.

Bitcoin is completely unrelated to mining software. If you are having a problem with guiminer, one problem some users have had is that the program opens off-screen so you can't see it.

None of this matters if you don't have a high-end ATI video card to mine with - anything else is a waste of electricity.
2926  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Sapphire 5830 Xtreme for sale for BTC on: October 01, 2011, 12:28:34 PM
This thread was started in June. why bump such an old thread?
Clearly when we say noobs should search before posting, there is a limit...

Maybe this will be a "oh, I guess I should look at the date first" learning experience?
2927  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [PAID] Publish result of Days Destroyed calculation on: September 29, 2011, 06:50:14 PM
This BitcoinDays Destroyed number still doesn't provide a perfect picture, it is just a much better measure than looking at raw spending totals.  Here's an example:

1.  Someone who mined 50 bitcoins exactly one year ago spends them.

Consider a slight variation on that ... example 5:
5. Someone who mined 50 bitcoins exactly one year ago spends 1 BTC.

In Case 5 only 1 BTC was spent and 49 BTC was returned as change.  There would still be 18,250 Bitcoin-days destroyed, even though the coins representing all but 365 of those Bitcoin-days remained in the same wallet.

I understood the first 4 examples, but not that example 5 you just explained.  Why are all 18250 BTC days destroyed?  Why not just 365?  Is it because some part of the 50 that was originally minted is finally spent, regardless of how many?  If so, why?

If you have 50BTC in one address, and spend 1BTC of it, the remaining unspent currency does not stay at that address, it gets sent to a new generated address in your wallet. This is to enhance anonymity. Although you still have the coins, it looks like you sent them. A transaction would look like:

2010-12-25:
 Generate 50 BTC -> address Wallet1

2011-09-25:
Input 50 BTC from address Wallet1 ->
 Output 1 BTC -> recipient
 Output 49 BTC -> Wallet2

So the coins were unmoved for nine months, and although only 1 BTC was actually spent on 9-25, all of them were sent to new addresses.
2928  Economy / Speculation / Bitcoin up 7300% in one year! (w charts) on: September 28, 2011, 03:08:51 PM
Figured we could use some bullish news.

Bitcoin still up 75x in exchange price in a year, does anything else do this?

Here's a graph of the September 2010:
Bitcoins for six cents!

See the purchase of 10,000 BTC for $610? That's now $46,000 if I simply click sell even at today's market low. Too bad that wasn't you...


Here is the current week's price:


See a couple 5k sales profit-taking in the last few days pushing the price down? How many more 10k BTC owners are out there? You could be one if you get in during the dip!
2929  Economy / Economics / Re: Can you participate in this experiment? on: September 27, 2011, 06:02:40 PM
This experiment is really simple: You figure out a way how to SPEND a N number of bitcoins per week and do that for the 6-8 weeks in a row.

That's good until I am out of Bitcoins. Then I need to earn some more by selling goods and services. Then I can spend those on other goods and services.

Saving is not hoarding. One of the problems with many economies is the low personal savings rate (pdf).

e·con·o·my /iˈkänəmē/
Noun: The wealth and resources of a country or region, esp. in terms of the consumption and production of goods and services.
2930  Economy / Economics / Re: Yes, miners influence price on: September 27, 2011, 05:40:38 PM
Mining activity simply makes the blockchain harder to attack by making a cryptographically strong problem. Bitcoin still works fine with 1% of the current hash rate (as long as miners don't leave all at once.) As the difficulty would adjust to keep six blocks (and 300BTC generated) per hour, only a reasonable amount of hash power that would prevent the strongest anticipated attacker from forging blocks is necessary.

More mining makes it more expensive to generate Bitcoins. You can say that this makes the price be influenced by the amount of mining, but it is more that the mining hashpower is influenced by the price. If the exchange rate was five times the current price, mining activity would probably grow by a proportionate amount. Mining activity seems to have settled into the expected equilibrium, where miners are making barely more than their electricity bill. As a side effect, this also means that profitability sets the cryptographic strength of the blockchain.

When I acquire 1 BTC, I sell.  Selling influences prices.  The rate at which I sell is determined by the # of miners.  Hence, miners influence price.
That sounds like you sell at a constant rate - 100% of generated income, as fast as you generate it. You are just breaking your sale into quantums by selling only every day or every week; 100 other people like you and there is a constant flow of new BTC into the economy.

Speculation, investment, and optimism that the price will increase will increase holdings by miners of their generated income for the future, and that will further affect the market value. By liquidating as fast as you generate, it just doesn't sound like you are very optimistic.
2931  Economy / Economics / Re: About Namecoin on: September 27, 2011, 05:17:35 PM
http://dot-bit.org/HowToBrowseBitDomains

The biggest hurdle is that domains can't be used without a browser plug-in or DNS modifications. There are probably less than 1000 (less than 100?) people that have actually set up .bit addresses to work. While the name can never be confiscated by the federales, it's pretty much useless anyway, as nobody can get to your domain without configuration (and it won't show up in search engines either). It's significantly easier to just bookmark an IP address.
2932  Economy / Goods / SOLD! Zalman VF900-Cu Copper Silent GPU Cooler on: September 27, 2011, 04:56:13 PM
SOLD!

Zalman near-silent GPU cooling with adjustable fan speed. All-copper with heat pipes.

I used this on my 9800GTX to great silent effect. On a 175W 5830 the temps run away higher than the loud stock cooler, but it should be good on a lower wattage card (if your card only uses one PCI-E power connector, etc). Includes just enough thermal grease for one last use. The little ram heatsinks were used, so their double-sided sticky tape is no longer sticky.

2933  Economy / Goods / Re: [WTS] 5x Sapphire 5830, 5870, 5770 - Free dummy plugs! (USA ONLY) on: September 27, 2011, 04:27:48 PM
please resize your pictures
lol whoops!  I created the post from my iPhone where every picture looks huge

Edit your post and use the BBcode [img width=300 height=400] (or vice-versa for the landscape pictures). They will still be large, but will be resized by browsers.

It looks like you have two 5830s with full size display port (SAPPHIRE 100297-2L, small box) and three 5830s with mini display port (SAPPHIRE 100297-L, big box). Please confirm that is correct and specify which you are sending to buyers.
2934  Other / Archival / Re: Is there any bitcoin pool without any cost? on: September 27, 2011, 12:16:59 AM
Yes, there are. There are a few that even pay the transaction fees earned out to miners, so you make the same estimated rewards as if you were mining solo. See my sig.

How does your pool compare to Slush's pool?
It's not my pool, I just mine there and find it good enough to recommend.

mineco uses PPLNS (pay-per-last-N-shares), a payment system where the work submitted in the last 12 hours or so is considered when splitting rewards when a block is found - on average every 24 hours at the current hashrate (without getting technical).

Slush uses a round system where only work you have done since the last block was found is considered, and it uses a formula where older work is valued less. The formula isn't good enough to make it completely hopper-proof though, the fee is 2% and they keep the earned transaction fees. They have a higher hashrate, so you get more frequent smaller payments.

ozco sounds like a deal if they are going to pay out 55BTC per round for the next several rounds though.

Here is a comparison of mining pools.
2935  Other / Off-topic / Re: Last post to this thread wins 1btc! (no deposit necessary) *UPDATE* 6 HOURS! on: September 26, 2011, 10:39:52 AM
Simple, the last post to this thread in 24 hours wins 1btc from my account.
LAST POST IN 6 HOURS WILL BE THE WINNER!


mine
TiagoTiago wins. Pay the gentleman and lock the damn thread!
...and never do this again.
2936  Other / Archival / Re: Is there any bitcoin pool without any cost? on: September 26, 2011, 06:41:44 AM
Yes, there are. There are a few that even pay the transaction fees earned out to miners, so you make the same estimated rewards as if you were mining solo. See my sig.
2937  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Getting feet wet - SOLO ONLY hardware list on: September 26, 2011, 02:17:22 AM
The problem I have with pooled mining atm is that my calculations show that I will spend more in power than I will get back even with my reduced rate. That is why I have decided I want to take the "gamble" of solo mining. It's just more fun to get a lump payout.

The 5870 is the only card worth mining on, the others will use more power than the BTC they generate.

400Mhash/s from that card:

~0.23 BTC per day pool mining at current difficulty; $1.23 at current exchange rate.
or
a 50% chance of getting 50BTC after 7.25 months of mining
2938  Economy / Goods / Re: WTS HD 5850s $130 each Sapphire HD 5830s PAYPAL Verified on: September 26, 2011, 01:38:47 AM
I sure hope that is ESD carpet...

Here are reasonable size pictures ("quote" to look at the code):


2939  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Could someone that's a familiar with bitcoin answer some questions! on: September 26, 2011, 01:25:50 AM
Type this into Google:

site:bitcoin.it difficulty

Replace "difficulty" with whatever your question is.
2940  Economy / Economics / Re: Gold: I smell a trap on: September 26, 2011, 01:18:40 AM
Here's the current AU spot price chart, it should be constantly updating:
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