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2921  Other / Meta / Re: [APPEALING] My account was banned. I understood my fault, please help to unban on: July 15, 2018, 07:10:42 PM

Let me tell you what Theymos would say.

"The forum does not need any more money"

Case closed.
Money raised from these fines could be donated to charity or otherwise put back into the economy.

The goal would not be to raise money, it would be to deter unwanted behavior.
2922  Other / Meta / Re: How do I reply on local board if I do not know the language? on: July 15, 2018, 06:42:57 PM
Your reply was in no way on topic of that thread. It was also not responding to what was said about you.
2923  Other / Meta / Re: Requesting for Farsi local board! on: July 15, 2018, 05:01:07 PM
I don't see a Farsi thread in the other languages board on the first two pages which goes back to February.
Farsi = Persian (فارسی (Persian))
Oh, I had no idea they were one and the same.

In that case,
I don't think there is demand for this.
2924  Other / Meta / Re: [APPEALING] My account was banned. I understood my fault, please help to unban on: July 15, 2018, 07:41:01 AM
I am ready to pay a fee
This is outside of current forum policy, however I believe paying this kind of bounty would be a good way to ensure rules are not broken in the future by this person. This statement is based in part by the fact that users who are perma banned may simply ignore ban evasion rules and create a new account that may or may not get detected, and may or may not be detectable by the admins.

If someone is caught engaging in copy/paste spam, and has 10 accounts, 9 of which did not do this, all 10 would need to pay the bounty to get unbanned, or some of them could pay to unlock only those accounts.

I would argue that a $100 fine would be a bigger deterrent than being banished, especially considering that the later is more difficult to enforce.  

None of the above is an endorsement of any of what the OP does.
2925  Other / Meta / Re: Requesting for Farsi local board! on: July 15, 2018, 07:33:03 AM
I don't see a Farsi thread in the other languages board on the first two pages which goes back to February.

I don't think there is demand for this.
2926  Other / Politics & Society / Re: #breaking Stormy Daniels arrested on: July 14, 2018, 03:09:25 PM
I don't know the exact laws there but that sounds crazy. Since it's illegal for the performer to touch the clients, I suppose it's also illegal for them to be touched, right?

What I'm interested in is who filed the case. Did the customer (which I assumed is a guy) complained about harassment after being touched in a strip bar he likely went in voluntarily?
Undercover police offers witnessed her feeling up customers and when the cops approached her she felt them up too.

Kinda wonder what they are doing there in the first place. You think they've put her under surveillance after that "revelation" about Trump? I mean, this look more than a coincidence that they happen to be at the same strip bar where she work. Bet she now regret going on TV.
They were there as part of a months long human trafficking investigation. Regardless, being critical of the president is not a safe harbor to break the law
2927  Economy / Reputation / Re: Spammer selling comment (reply) through fiverr. Spamming on Ann thread. on: July 14, 2018, 04:29:05 AM
Sadly this is just one more way ICOs have perverted incentives related to the forum. I don’t see tagging him really doing anything. Technically speaking he could claim that any posts he made were the result of him actually wanting to post there.
2928  Economy / Lending / Re: CoinLenders depositors: Reimbursement available (please read!) on: July 14, 2018, 04:18:02 AM
TF knows enough to not ask for money via his TF account. I don’t think anyone would give him money anyway, at least not anything substantial.

The above won’t stop him from collecting money from others unfortunately. See the hashie scam that he has been accused of being behind. I doubt he is the only one who can pull off these kinds of scams. It just highlights the importance of performing due diligence prior to trusting your money with others.
2929  Other / Meta / Re: Global Moderators fired? on: July 13, 2018, 07:44:44 PM

IDK why, but that looks a lot like a hat that would belong to you.

Are you trying to throw your hat into the ring?
2930  Other / Politics & Society / Re: #breaking Stormy Daniels arrested on: July 13, 2018, 01:49:05 PM
I don't know the exact laws there but that sounds crazy. Since it's illegal for the performer to touch the clients, I suppose it's also illegal for them to be touched, right?

What I'm interested in is who filed the case. Did the customer (which I assumed is a guy) complained about harassment after being touched in a strip bar he likely went in voluntarily?
Undercover police offers witnessed her feeling up customers and when the cops approached her she felt them up too.
2931  Other / Politics & Society / Re: #breaking Stormy Daniels arrested on: July 13, 2018, 06:05:57 AM
If you have people paying to be touched in a sexual way which is ultimately what you are doing when a performer is touching a patron at a strip club, you have what is very close to prostitution if not outright prostitution, depending on the circumstances and the legislature probably didn’t want a loophole for prostitution. With prostitution, there is the risk of human trafficking being involved and/or other forms of coercion, hence the police investigation.
2932  Other / Politics & Society / Re: #breaking Stormy Daniels arrested on: July 13, 2018, 04:33:03 AM
Regular performers are allowed to touch family members.

Ohio is weird.
A spouse is a person's family member. Having your spouse touch you is not weird to everyone... 

The existence of such provision in the law seems to imply that a person in Ohio would attend their spouse's performance in a strip club AND would want to be publicly fondled by said spouse thus letting it be known to everyone around them that they're a family. That's gotta be at least a little weird. Do they have similar provisions for e.g. indecent exposure?
I am not familiar with OH laws, however I would say it is a safe bet the provision was put in that law to avoid it conflicting with another law.

The law was also apparently back by Christian conservatives, who presumably to prevent non-married people from touching eachother in these clubs.
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Do they have similar provisions for e.g. indecent exposure?
yup
2933  Other / Politics & Society / Re: #breaking Stormy Daniels arrested on: July 13, 2018, 03:43:15 AM
1 - A person voluntarily gives his money
2 - Another person voluntarily allows someone to touch her
3 - Arrest them because muh goverment
I think she should be sentenced to death for this heinous crime. Letting another human being touch you is disgusting and there's no excuses for it. Off with her head.
The US is a county of laws, and as long as a law is in effect, and does not conflict with a law passed by a higher authority (eg., a local ordinance conflicting with a state law), you must follow the law or be at risk of facing the consequences prescribed in the law.

The law was passed by elected officials who were duly elected, so it is arguably fair to say the law is part of the will of the people.

In general, I do not like government regulations, however simply ignoring a regulation is not the answer, the solution to regulations is to persuade the government to change/remove said regulations either via elections or via petitioning the government to do so. If you fall under the jurisdiction of a regulator, and ignore their regulations, you will almost certainly face consequences.

I would also point out that the police being at the club was apparently part of a long term sex trafficking investigation.


Looks like it was her touching the patrons, not the other way round. And the charges have already been dropped. Apparently the charges were dismissed because she 'has not made regular appearances at this establishment as required under the law', so trying to get patrons to motorboat her was perfectly legal.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/07/12/politics/stormy-daniels-arrested-in-ohio/index.html
Yes, it seems as if a single word in the statute allowed Stormy to get out of the charges. My reading of the law is that if she had fondled the patrons on the 2nd night she was scheduled at the club, she would have been found guilty. Although considering the law does not specify the "employee" needs to perform at the same establishment "repeatedly" it is arguable she would be found guilty if it was determined she had performed in multiple clubs in OH under the court's jurisdiction, which I believe to be the case. Perhaps the DA didn't want to have to deal with the BS from her lawyer who likes to try cases on friendly cable TV stations.

Initial reports were that stormy had allowed a patron to touch her.

Regular performers are allowed to touch family members.

Ohio is weird.
A spouse is a person's family member. Having your spouse touch you is not weird to everyone... 
2934  Other / Meta / Re: Truth about bitcointalk users 2.0 on: July 12, 2018, 05:16:06 PM
You should exclude the brand new users from your stats. They are likely to be spam bots that are banned.

That is quite some stat in itself, 73.35% of new accounts got nuked.

I agree that the other percentages would give a better representation with those having been removed from the figures first.
That percentage is unlikely to be only nuked accounts however nuked accounts likely make up a decent chunk of “brand new” accounts.

I suspect that a very large percentage of those accounts are inaccessible to their owner for one reason or another. If someone is proxy banned they may create a new account on a different IP instead of paying the fee, someone might have forgotten their password and just created a new account.
2935  Other / Politics & Society / Re: #breaking Stormy Daniels arrested on: July 12, 2018, 03:44:50 PM
The law we are told is not a respecter of persons, if she had contravened the laws of the state of Ohio she has to face the consequences, that she has been speaking out against president Trump should not be reason enough why she should deserve a special and preferential treatment.
Right. Being a political actor does not and should not give you safe harbor to break the law.

It also seems both her and her lawyer appear to be leveraging their anti-trump stance and what is likely a bogus story for their own personal financial gain.
2936  Other / Meta / Re: Wall of fame / shame. Shit posts so bad that they are actually funny on: July 12, 2018, 03:09:44 PM
This guy is a gold mine:

if I think the happiest time when new bride. and there is no painful time when toothache. because the toothache to eat does not taste hungry. hear the voice of people talking sick. sleeping wrong, wrong motion .

if I will multiply my business and money. because the present day with money so smooth affairs. because I have a neighbor when beautiful new age 22 but want in marriage with people aged 60 years. because his legs are rich .



Probably his auto-translate needs an auto-translate.
I would be willing to bet this is some kind of bot using not very good AI. Both posts very broadly match the topic of the thread but are outright incoherent.

For example having a toothache does make people not happy and does cause pain. Using basic logic would imply that therefore not having a toothache (the opposite of having a toothache) would cause someone to be happy (the opposite of being not happy).

If you think an actual person wrote this then you believe that someone who is illiterate was able to sign up for bitcointalk and figure out how to join a bounty campaign. I don’t think any translation service would screw things up this badly.
2937  Other / Meta / Re: Global Moderators fired? on: July 12, 2018, 07:08:53 AM
In general, all Global mods do is help the moderators handling reports. Some global mods will also help with administrative duties such as temp bans, account recoveries and the like.

If there are sufficient section moderators, having additional global mods will not be necessary.

How many boards only have a global mod assigned to them?

I've noticed since the new reports page is available that when I report a newbie that all moderators can deal with the report is usually handled very quickly but when I report a Jr. Member or above it often takes many hours or sometimes even a couple of days to get handled. That's what I'm basing my opinion that the global mods are overworked on.
This may be the result of needing more board specific mods in certain boards. It may also be the result of certain mods declining to handle certain reports for one reason or another -- perhaps because they do not have time to investigate a report, because they do not agree with/understand an underlying rule, there is some conflict of interest, or some other reason.
2938  Economy / Reputation / Re: Quickseller receives 20BTC, does not do work, keeps $ **not disputed!** on: July 12, 2018, 07:05:48 AM
If Vod were this bad of a person, Quickseller has to be a coward for not pursuing.
That is ridiculous. Courts have a standard practice against punishing people for crimes, including murder under similar logic - this includes refraining from finding guilt under these circumstances.


Quickseller was too cowardly to reveal his own identity
More ridiculousness. Privacy and the right to anonymity is a fundamental right protected by the US constitution and is a valued ethos of the forum. The overwhelming majority of people that conduct any kind of business on the forum conceal their identities (those who do not conduct business have an even greater percentage of anonymity), including those with significant trust and authority. Even the mods, including the global mods are allowed to keep their identity secret from even the administration, even if this means they can conceal income and assets so they can continue to receive welfare transfer payments from the government.
2939  Other / Politics & Society / #breaking Stormy Daniels arrested on: July 12, 2018, 06:51:52 AM
According to her dirtbag lawyer, Michael Avenatti, Stephanie Clifford, whose "professional" name (the name she is known as in porn movies, strip clubs, and CNN) is Stormy Daniels was arrested in an Ohio strip club for allowing a patron touch her, which is illegal under OH statutes.

If the allegation is true, should Daniels be given a 'free pass' because she and her lawyer are vocal in trying to spew dirt on President Trump? Or should she face the consequences of her actions like anyone else in her situation would have to?

edit/correction: the actual reason she was arrested was because she touched a patron at the club where she was performing. Her lawyer did in fact say (inaccurately) that she was arrested for allowing a patron to touch her.
2940  Other / Meta / Re: Global Moderators fired? on: July 12, 2018, 06:42:41 AM
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We've been chugging along a few weeks with only 3 Global Moderators, and I don't think too many people noticed that Salty, and grue were inactive. Salty as been logging in, but hasn't done too much moderation work based on Hilariousnadco's comment. theymos recently made a comment that its not about the budget of the forum, but the lack of trust in delegating roles to users. So, I don't expect us to see new moderators/global moderators, and would assume that existing staff members will be promoted if there is a need.

Yeah, I have read comments about the budget not being the issue rather than lack of suitable candidates. It does seem like a lot of work for 3 people so I hope there are some moderators in line for a promotion soon.

In general, all Global mods do is help the moderators handling reports. Some global mods will also help with administrative duties such as temp bans, account recoveries and the like.

If there are sufficient section moderators, having additional global mods will not be necessary.
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