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2921  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers - How do you use your signature campaign earnings? on: April 28, 2021, 07:54:43 PM
It's mostly a personal preference, nothing else. I just prefer having control over my earnings on my own wallet and then proceed to deposit if I ever need to. I'm not implying that providing with the option to pay directly to your casino account is a negative, on the contrary, it's a benefit, but only for those who opt for it.

As for myself, I'd prefer not to, but that's just my preference, it's just easier to be in control of your funds. Nonetheless, I'm only gambling with small amounts, it's not like that I have gambling issues and can't hold myself.
Because sometimes, if the income is sent to their account in the gambling site, it can make them tempting to use for gambling and once they found excitement in the gambling games, they will forget to manage their income instead of playing gambling. The benefit of having the income sent to the wallet is that we can hold it without sending it to the other wallet if we do not need it. And that can prevent us from sending the money to the gambling site if we want to sell bitcoin at a high price.

But no matter if the income is sent to your gambling account or your wallet, you need to manage the funds and not use them for just playing gambling. Your life is not for playing gambling and you have many things that you need to do.
That is correct, in order to avoid the temptation of going overboard, if I was ever given the option to withdraw to my casino account, I'd pass. I'd rather have full control of my money
2922  Economy / Economics / Re: World risk - global on: April 28, 2021, 11:02:09 AM

--snip-- Regarding diseases, I am sure that we will be able to to address it if we continue to improve in terms of medicine.
Over the last century, we have been able to control diseases a lot. Average life expectancy went up due to antibiotics and other medical advances. Yet, it seems like nature is in an arms race with human race. We are running out of new antibiotics as microbes are developing resistances. Nothing needs to be said about the SARS-CoV2. The efficacy with which it is killing off some of the victims has left medical experts bewildered. Now, it seems like it is mutating.

Getting rid of diseases and disability would be such a boon for human existence. It'd be literally heaven on earth if somehow every human was assured of a disease-free existence. It'd probably be too costly for everyone to afford but if such technology could ever exist (The kind they featured in the movie Elysium), it'll be a time of celebration. I doubt we are anywhere near that or can even ever reach there. For every answer that delving into the micro-world provides, it throws up another question.
Diseases and natural disasters are indirectly a result of man made actions. Overpopulation, food shortages that lead to eating animals or insects we shouldn't (see bats, rats, cats and many more), terrible living conditions in many areas, which is unacceptable in the age we live in, (Such as the poorest parts of India, Thailand, Asia and Africa in general). All these circumstances create an ideal environment for infectious diseases to be developed.

Moreover, most natural disasters, such as floods or wildfires, are purely result of our own actions.
2923  Economy / Economics / Re: World risk - global on: April 27, 2021, 09:49:16 PM
Climate change right now is very alarming, but the Government seems doesn't care about it. The planet provides, and we destroy everything for our own selfishness "needs", how unfair is that. Maybe some of you would say that we need to remove something in order to put something else, but for me, it's not worth it since money and fame won't save us if mother Earth collapses,  we are all gonna die when that time happens.

So it is now or never, this pandemic lockdown is a living proof that if we try, we can heal our planet.
I don't think it's a government issue. Climate change is a global thing, and it requires the attention of everyone, from citizens to governments. It requires worldwide cooperation, and it's not the easiest thing to do, especially with the current situation. Don't get me wrong, I believe it's the most alarming issue and the most crucial one, for many decades ahead.
2924  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers - How do you use your signature campaign earnings? on: April 27, 2021, 09:16:34 PM
I got a payment few days back on casino's wallet and the withdrawal fees are so high which is more than my one week's payment. Unfortunately that was the last week whenever I joined that campaign. So, I can't withdraw my funds till now. I think for hunters, it should be free for withdrawal the funds for a certain period.

I'm not sure which campaign and casino's wallet you were participating in but afaik the only campaigns that pays the participants on the casino's account is Stake. Were you at that campaign and now your balance is stuck because you need to pay high withdrawal fee? If so, I suggest you to use dinabot to exchange your bitcoin into other altcoin so you can withdraw it with cheaper fee.

I wasn't familiar that there were signature campaigns paying directly to their casinos' account. To be honest, it might be more efficient, in terms of time and money (transaction fees), but I wouldn't opt for it. The reason for myself is pretty simple, I would definitely get carried away if I had a larger balance on any of my gambling accounts.

The time and money I'll need to make a deposit would be enough to deter me from spending more money if I ever get emotional.
Based up on experience, im bit aware that Fortunejack,Betnomi and others I had totally forgot which had really this kind of payment system where they do credit out those sig pay
into their gambling accounts.

If you do find it troublesome just because it do give out some chance for you to play with those earnings then its most likely a personal problem rather than to be applied generally.

Majority will really be withdrawing those but the thing I don't like is that your earnings would be totally deducted by fees which do sucks compared if the pay
are sent directly to your wallet then that is much more preferable.
It's mostly a personal preference, nothing else. I just prefer having control over my earnings on my own wallet and then proceed to deposit if I ever need to. I'm not implying that providing with the option to pay directly to your casino account is a negative, on the contrary, it's a benefit, but only for those who opt for it.

As for myself, I'd prefer not to, but that's just my preference, it's just easier to be in control of your funds. Nonetheless, I'm only gambling with small amounts, it's not like that I have gambling issues and can't hold myself.
2925  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: You won today, but then you will lose often on: April 27, 2021, 07:52:44 PM
What I did when I'm losing money when I'm still gambling is that, before I start I always put in my mind that whenever I lose I will not try to recover my lost money.

Sometimes it will depend on your mindset, how can you control yourself and your strategies and plans. If you lose, don't ever try to recover it because most of the time you will end up losing more money and not only that the addiction will becoming higher. For me, I believe that when I gamble I will always lose so maybe that also helped me in a way not to gamble again and recover the losses I have.

Chasing after your losses will be the worst strategy to follow when you are gambling. It never works and in the end it will leave you in financial ruin. IMO, the best thing to do when you are losing continuously is to take a break, and admit that it simply isn't your lucky day. If you are losing on a continuous basis and still continuing with the game, then you will end up in a very difficult position. If you want to chase your losses, then do it the next day, and not on the same day.
I'm trying to be a responsible gambler and not bet high amounts, at least I try not to. Speaking from experience, what you've said is one of the best advice someone can follow. I used to play crash on Bustabit, after losing two games in a row, I decided to play a third time, betting everything I had on the account, in an effort to recoup my losses.

The result? I lost, three times in a row and was left with no balance. Trying to recoup your loss is probably the worst strategy someone can follow when gambling, let that be a lesson to all of us. I completely abandoned Bustabit after that and took a break from any games whatsoever.
2926  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Fate or lack of control - Gambling on: April 27, 2021, 06:53:33 PM
Some used to pacify themselves with the term it is their fate to loss in gambling. Some say it is the lack of control that makes them loss big. Here I'm taking this into discussion relative to the game - Dice.

Same as this some used to mention winning as fate and some term the same as luck. I believe win out of dice is trick, and right exit strategy.

What is the truth in this regard, because users like me are always go lack of control even when luck is on our side. End of the day used to pacify thyself terming it as our fate and move on. Hope you guys don't do this mistake. Cry Cry

Most gambling is based on the theory of probability. 

Therefore, it makes sense to estimate the probability of your winning at the beginning of the game.  If the probability of winning is less than 50 percent, then you are guaranteed to lose if you play long enough. 

There are gambling games in which your potential winnings are determined solely by your qualifications and your intellectual superiority over your partners in the game (for example, poker). 

In such games, it is advisable to choose the weakest and dumbest partners for the game.  This will guarantee you an easy win.
As I've also mentioned previously, gambling is a game of chance, simple probabilities that we were taught in school (with the rolling dice being the most popular example). On each game, you have an X chance of winning and a Y of losing, the faster we acknowledge that, the better. All gambling games include the most contributing factor, which is chance, while a few other such as Poker, Roulette, or sport betting do require some kind of knowledge and skills.
2927  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers - How do you use your signature campaign earnings? on: April 27, 2021, 06:19:51 PM
I got a payment few days back on casino's wallet and the withdrawal fees are so high which is more than my one week's payment. Unfortunately that was the last week whenever I joined that campaign. So, I can't withdraw my funds till now. I think for hunters, it should be free for withdrawal the funds for a certain period.

I'm not sure which campaign and casino's wallet you were participating in but afaik the only campaigns that pays the participants on the casino's account is Stake. Were you at that campaign and now your balance is stuck because you need to pay high withdrawal fee? If so, I suggest you to use dinabot to exchange your bitcoin into other altcoin so you can withdraw it with cheaper fee.

I wasn't familiar that there were signature campaigns paying directly to their casinos' account. To be honest, it might be more efficient, in terms of time and money (transaction fees), but I wouldn't opt for it. The reason for myself is pretty simple, I would definitely get carried away if I had a larger balance on any of my gambling accounts.

The time and money I'll need to make a deposit would be enough to deter me from spending more money if I ever get emotional.
2928  Economy / Economics / Re: Covid virus 2021 on: April 27, 2021, 11:03:39 AM
I also think that Pfizer and Sputnik is the safest and best to use for covid vaccination. I really don't have trust for all covid vaccines from China. Also our country already experienced the bad effect of the Dengvaxia vaccine from China before but it was not for Covid but also killed a lot of children's lives. Scary to take and vaccinate covid vaccine from China.

Pfizer has refused to provide vaccines to third world countries. They have reserved 99% of their vaccines to developed nations such as the United States and Canada. Pfizer has provided limited doses of the vaccine to some of the third world nations, but in return they are asking for draconian guarantees. And as far as Sputnik V is concerned, they are really struggling to cope up with the demand. The good news is that their facilities in Argentina and Serbia has started producing the vaccines and by next month tens of millions of doses will be available for export.
Unfortunately, pharmaceutical companies gain billions in profit from vaccines, as bad as it may sound, they prefer selling them to developed countries that will provide them with a guaranteed return. A perfect example of that is India, one of the largest manufacturers of vaccines (the AstraZeneca is produced there if I'm not mistaken), is facing huge shortages while the vaccination program is going downhill.

Source about India: https://www.thehindu.com/data/covid-19-vaccination-rate-falls-sharply-in-mid-april-in-india/article34401369.ece
2929  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Be a Responsible Gambler on: April 27, 2021, 10:21:48 AM
I'm sorry death69 but I have to disagree with you, trading isn't a "better place" as you said or a safer place than online casinos. You can lose huge amounts of money when you invest into cyptocurrencies because they are highly volatile and unpredictable.

There's no need to literally put up a bad meaning on what the user said. Let's use our common sense here.

It's definitely a no-brainer that someone won't think that trading isn't risky. The user just wants to give advice to OP that it's good to focus on trading instead of gambling because of what happened. Then while on trading, of course, we need to manage it well along the way and do everything to keep up with the volatility.
No you're wrong bro, many people don't know cryptos and trading and they arrive here from google, or are just brand new crypto users. Saying it's safe to trade and you can easily earn money this way could mislead them and could get them burnt because of that. Death69 literally advised Vaskiy to trade in order to make more money, that's not a good advice in my opinion, that's a dangerous one and you should be careful if you don't think so.  

~snip
 And try to make $2000 in order to have an initial amount for trading. If you think you can trade, just do it. Trading is a better place than any online casino.
Trading is at least better than gambling. As a trader, I can say that trading is somehow related to gambling if you carelessly make a trade, put an order or let the emotion drive you insanely. But OP says that he intends to trade so probably he does prepare to make money with it instead of throwing his money out of a window like what he did in gambling

Your point is also correct. Trading is also very risky. Even so, if OP intitial decision is to make money with trading, why not let him finish it?
No matter what, there's always a risk when you are dealing with money. Although, trading and gambling are two totally different things, which only share the risk factor in them. When you're trading, you have the choice to go for safer options, such as trading for older, established coins such as Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin and so on.

When trading, you are exchanging your asset for something else, so you always have something of value in your hands. Let's suppose you buy Litecoin at a high price and then it crashes, you still have LTC which holds some kind of value.
2930  Economy / Services / Re: [Open] ▄■▀■▄ 🌟Bitvest.io🌟 - Plinko Sign Camp (Member-Hero Accepted)(New2) on: April 27, 2021, 09:42:01 AM
Thank you once again, confirming payment received with a decent bonus!

Thank you
2931  Economy / Economics / Re: Covid virus 2021 on: April 25, 2021, 08:06:45 PM
I live in Brazil and even after the vaccine reaches hospitals, ...

12% received one dose in Brazil. That is way to low to have any impact. Many more already had covid. So immunity have bigger impact. Without vaccines and immunity situation would be much worse. I know things are bad right now, but at least there is hope. I dont see Brazil can be hit with 4th wave. So this is last one. It just need to be fought and win the battle.
That's way too low to have any effect at all, it's not any better here either. A decent percentage would be at approximately 50% in order to start showing the first positive effects. Countries like the United Kingdom and Israel are a true example of how the vaccination program should be running.
2932  Economy / Services / Re: [Open] ▄■▀■▄ 🌟Bitvest.io🌟 - Plinko Sign Camp (Member-Hero Accepted)(New2) on: April 25, 2021, 07:31:23 PM
Thank you Brainboss, is there any update on the payments thought? Because they weren't made last week either.

Thanks.

Last time, Lightlord paid at 6 weeks, this is just the sixth week, so it is likely to pay this week, I would say. I don't know if Brainboss will know.
The delay includes bonuses, so we can't complain too much.
That's what I thought too, I've noticed a pattern of payments being distributed per every 5-6 rounds, so I'd guess payments will be distributed within the next few days.
2933  Economy / Services / Re: [Open] ▄■▀■▄ 🌟Bitvest.io🌟 - Plinko Sign Camp (Member-Hero Accepted)(New2) on: April 25, 2021, 06:36:28 PM
Spreadsheet for round 122 has been turned in to lightlord for payment. All outstanding payouts are to be processed shortly, stay tuned.

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Thank you Brainboss, is there any update on the payments thought? Because they weren't made last week either.

Thanks.
2934  Economy / Economics / Re: Covid virus 2021 on: April 25, 2021, 01:39:44 PM
That's so bad, may I know what is the brand of the vaccine which is spreaded by your Government? Because, last week my mother is forced by the government to be vaccinated. In my country, the vaccine that is spreaded is Sinovac. When I read what you wrote, that makes me feel worry to my mom. I really hope that everything gonna be okay soon. Although, we have found the vaccine but Covid-19 still infected many people in every country. This is really bad.

Sinovac is really useless. There are rumors that they manipulated the clinical trials, in order to achieve the minimum (50%) efficacy needed for approval (Sinovac claims to have an efficacy of 50.4%). Countries such as Hungary, Serbia and Chile have primarily used Sinovac vaccine to inoculate their populations. But in none of these countries, a noticeable reduction in the number of new infections is being noticed (despite vaccinating close to half of the population in each case).
That's a quite low efficacy, but a bold claim to make too, is there any valid source for this? Isn't Sinovac a Chinese vaccine? I think Pfizer and Sputnik seem like the safest and best options out there.
2935  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if, you had invested $100 in BTC (From 2010 to 2021) on: April 25, 2021, 11:56:21 AM
Bitcoin was and still is one of the best investments someone could make, I strongly believe that there's still earning/investment potential.

You are quite right here, although some things have changed dramatically when it comes to prices, and from my personal experience I can say that many think it is too late to invest in BTC, and accordingly buy various altcoins which they think should achieve the same or approximately what Bitcoin has achieved in that time period. Greed has become even greater after all, as few would be happy to achieve x5 or x10 in the future by investing in BTC.

I wish I had realized the potential back then, but I was too young.

You're not the only one who didn't understand the potential of Bitcoin, most of us were still quite skeptical 5-6 years ago when the main topic on the forum was whether the price would ever reach $1000 again. If some of us would go back and read some of our posts we would see that we were pretty wrong in many things. However, it is much more important that we did not give up in some difficult moments and that we are still here.
I was pretty young back then, so I can't actually beat myself for not investing, I had bought some BTC though, but it was obtained for another purpose. I remember asking my parents to lend me money, so I could invest in buying a Bitcoin or two back then!

Anyway, the point of this thread is basically to understand Bitcoin's potential throughout the years, from its founding, till now that the price has skyrocketed.
2936  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if, you had invested $100 in BTC (From 2010 to 2021) on: April 25, 2021, 09:21:53 AM
It's very easy to talk about what could have been after the fact by watching the already changed price. But the reality is that most people who had $100 in bitcoin back in 2010 were like most people who had $100 in bitcoin about a week ago. Both of these groups panic sold when they saw a volatility.

The 2010 people panic sold when price fell from $6.4 to $4.8
The 2021 people panic sold when price fell from $64k to $48k
History repeats itself for sure, it's just interesting to have a quick look back in the past. We can actually notice that the patterns were almost the same as now, as you've already mentioned. Even at the lowest prices, people were in panic selling their coins, even if that was worth a few dollars back then.
2937  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if, you had invested $100 in BTC (From 2010 to 2021) on: April 24, 2021, 10:55:46 PM
If I bought ..
If I hadn't sold ..
If I had not lost the wallet.dat and the private key ..
History always repeats itself, statistics say that about 3 million bitcoins are lost forever.
This is a good lesson, so you need to take good care of all cryptoassets, make more copies and invest in interesting projects.
That's correct, I didn't make this thread to rant about what I could have done differently, but it's nice to see how it all started and have a flashback back to the past.

If you had bought 100$ worth of bitcoins in 2010, you would not have imagined that your bitcoins would have multiplied millions of times by 2021.  But sadly, it is never possible to predict the crypto market in advance.
Probably what would have happened with the majority of its users, we would have probably sold when those $100 reached $200-300.
2938  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / What if, you had invested $100 in BTC (From 2010 to 2021) on: April 24, 2021, 09:17:58 PM
I stumbled upon an article on Yahoo Finance, which really sparkled my interest, it's from February 2021. It is consisted of several scenarios, coming from the early days of 2010 until nowadays, 2021. I think that its performance is quite astonishing, even if you aren't an early adopter, those $100 could still be a great investment in the long run.

Starting from 2010, BTC's average price would be a few cents at most (The article mentions 6 cents per BTC), your $100 investment would now be worth $73.000.000 (BTC value $44.000, with current value of $50.000~ that would now be $82.843.920!)

Even in 2013, that Bitcoin was starting to gain in value (Approximately $600-700 each) your $100 would now be worth $7.800 (valued at $50.000).

What's interesting is that even throughout years 2017-2019 (Which is our very recent past), those $100 which is like a petty amount of investment, would lead to pretty decent profit, from such a petty amount.

Bitcoin was and still is one of the best investments someone could make, I strongly believe that there's still earning/investment potential. Sometimes I am thinking back and wonder what if? What if I had even bought $50 worth of BTC back in 2014, when I registered here, now I'd have a decent amount of money. I wish I had realized the potential back then, but I was too young. It's no time for regrets, we should keep going forward, in an effort to acquire as much knowledge we can, which can lead us to a new earning potential.

Source: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bitcoin-price-soars-much-100-163535191.html


2939  Economy / Economics / Re: Covid virus 2021 on: April 24, 2021, 06:51:11 PM
Where are you from if you don't mind me asking? We've seen similar examples from Israel and United Kingdom that vaccination has been effective so far. That's our only way out of this pandemic. Vaccines have been effective in diminishing many infectious diseases in the past and it's our only weapon to fight Covid-19.

Unfortunately, most European countries are way behind in their vaccination program, I hope that this situation changes throughout the summer.

We have a different story about the implementation of vaccine in my country.The society didnt believe on the government with the vaccine. So, they rejected to be vaccinated and they told to others that this is just conspiracy. Covid is Hoax. How bad the condition in my country, right?
That's the scenario in your country. In my country similar is the situation and people aren't ready to believe in the vaccine, because many people died after the vaccination. There is fear about the vaccine, but to withstand the ongoing worse situation people are crowding to get vaccinated. In reality there is much shortage of vaccine and the government isn't in a state to agree it and take necessary steps.
Where are you from, if you don't mind me asking? Although, it's a quite common phenomenon here too, you see these conspiracy theorists all over Facebook and social media, posing as specialists or Mr. Know-it-all.

A recent study had shown that Greece is the second country after Nigeria to believe in conspiracy theories about Covid-19. I'm not sure about the sample they used, but it's quite sad nonetheless.

Study's source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/26/survey-uncovers-widespread-belief-dangerous-covid-conspiracy-theories
2940  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: BTC price VS gambling on: April 24, 2021, 05:42:47 PM
A litte drop of fee now on bitcoin transactions, as you cen see in https://mempool.space/.. the highest priority now is only 6 usd, compared to yesterday's 10 to 15 usd. It's now time to transact bitcoin to save fees as eventually it will again rise as the mempool gets congested.
It is still too high comparing to many other altcoins like Ripple, Tron, Doge, even BNB (BSC). I see Bitcoin as wealth, so its hard for me to justify using it to gamble. Best is to gamble with Tron in my opinion, cheap coin, cheap fees etc.
Whereas when prices are rising we need to be careful to not lose money.
Thats true, if the value is high we are careful not to lose it and instead we are eager to win more because of the price. During that time im hesitating as well to spend my bitcoin in gambling or to make a deposit. Because aside from high transaction fees, im also thinking to be more wise refraining myself to play, unless the btc is already in my gambling account. If I can make my money double then its an achievement however we know gambling is risky and a game of luck to win so it wont be easy.
You are right. When we can think that it will better to hold bitcoin while the price increase or sideways, we will not use it for gambling instead of using the other coins, it feels bad if we lose in bitcoin than in altcoin because the value is different. Even if we have the btc in our account, that will not be a good idea to use for playing gambling because we know that we can lose all of the btc amounts anytime in gambling games. However, if btc price increases more than now and the fees still not reduce, then there is no other way to just hold and sell it in the exchanges or convert it into altcoins first and send it in the exchange can make a profit from that.
It's best to hold Bitcoin since I deem it as an investment asset, I feel like I'm gambling with golden nuggets. Unfortunately, I had already deposited BTC when I started micro gambling thus I'm not going to bother switching coins now, since I already have a balance that can suit my needs.

I also regret using my left over Dogecoins for that purpose, but I couldn't have guessed that its price would rise so much.
Noone could guess what happened with Doge. I wanted to kick myself when I realized Elon Musk's pump but it was too late.
Haha, don't get me started either, I recently found a Dogecoin address which belonged to me but I cannot find the login credentials or any other information about it. Sucks seeing it reach $0.40 and not being able to recover your coins.
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