at the moment is just better to mine monero than doing all that stuff
500 h/s for a 1070 doesnt seem the most profitable... yeah you need the sp mod which does 900hash, but i can do 700 with the open source one Still not worth even at 900. You're winding in your super expensive power again and making blanket statements you think apply to everyone. you didn't the math properly apparently, just check wattomine, with 900 per gpu it's equal to zcash and what my power have to do with this? your logic is stupid, because if it suit for me with expensive power, it should be even more profitable for other Depending on how much power is determines how much money you make, common sense, no? If you have expensive power, it may not pay to mine a algo that earns less then others that use more power. Currently Zcash uses more power then Cryptonote. And no Monero is earning less then Equihash (especially ZCL) at 900hash vs 360(stock). they use the same power that's the point, on my 6 x 1070 rig both use 700 watt full system, but obviously with only 700 hash per gpu with monero... is not worth it without the private miner... and yes the earning is very akin now, at the moment zcash(zcl was just recently pumped i wasn't counting on that) is slightly more profitable if we take in consideration 900 hash per gpu, but they are there sp said that it can be improved even more about 900 so... |
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The Virus detection is a false positive. Meanwhile I got the check report of Avast labs of version 0.0.7 was virus free.
hidden/stealth malicious code cannot be detected in that way, it's almost impossible to detect them with antivirus of any kind i'm running it in a secure machine where there is nothing to steal btw i can not connect to suprnova zclassic with this miner |
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qualcosa non quadra, io con 17kw faccio 0.2-0.25 zcash al giorno, con 7kw di sicuro non dovresti farne meno ti 0.08 sempre al giorno, spendendo 7kw invece in sole 2 ore dovresti generare comunque 0.04 devi avere schede di ultima generazione le vecchie consumano troppo |
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two 470 will not make 9 monero per month, more like 5-6 with the fastest miner out there, which i doubt you have
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Obviously it's not.
The thing to keep in mind though is that bitcoin is fundamentally broken at protocol level. It doesn't scale and has no regard for users privacy or anonymity.
Current prices are the result of hype and internal exchange whale manipulation. Just look at the market depth, there is no support till around $500.
there will be a fork to 2mb to solve momentarily the scale problem, and anyway it's more anonymous than using fiat, and you always have zcash/monero if not satisfied bitcoin was never meant to be 100% anon, for your information the curent value it's already well enar the last ath, we are in the same boat, another jump and 1200 will be broken to see if this price is more stable and not manipulated as the last one you can look at two things, how many users there are now compared to the 2013 ath and how much time the price needed to reach this value, which is not the same as 2013 |
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He didn't lose the money, he just sold and got nothing from it. He lost what he could've gained, money he never had in hand.
You could say you lost as well, because a week ago you could've sold everything you had, put money in bitcoin and profit Mate, are you serious? If he didn't lose any money, who has profited then? Shorting means that he first had to borrow bitcoins (read pay interest on borrowed funds), then he sold the borrowed bitcoins hoping that the price will fall (it is called short sell). When the price actually went up, he had to buy back all the bitcoins he had sold earlier, at a higher price. Doesn't it mean that to buy back the same number of bitcoins he had to pay more dollars? And that would constitute his loss (you can calculate the losses in bitcoins if you wish). If the price went down (as the dude expected), he would again buy back the bitcoins, now at a lower price with less dollars, and the difference would make up his profit (you can count the profits in bitcoins as well) not really maybe he had those bitcoin, i mean those bitcoin were owned by him, and he was shorting(which is stupid, with a bull market) to make even more so right now he simply can not re enter the market anymore without losing, but he can keep the funds and go away |
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they only want to do it via exchange, not going to track each address to know who is the owner, and anyway if you use an exchange you are already half-tracked because your bank account display your real name
unless you have a stolen bank account...you can still use a mixer or use other way to sell or to trade your coin
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in that case you need to check the rules in your country about capital that are held abroad, usually they have higher limit than those in your contry
this mean that you can trade for higher amount without paying anything, at least here in italy it work that way, limit is 15K euro for example
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For real, I don't know why people hate paper wallets so bad. You can laminate it to last longer or make the private key discrete (i.e. hidden in a pamphlet text) or whatever. It doesn't have to be a flashy paper wallet with BITCOIN written all over it.
i find it cumbersome it's more easy and fast to just plug a usb key and put the wallet there or all your wallets that you have Is this one of those attempts to drive down the price again? I swear that hacks like these tend to happen a lot when BTC is reaching important milestones in its development and value. Is there really a conspiracy behind this and should we be worried? Maybe we should withdraw our coins from the exchanges just to be safe. I feel like there will be a serious hack in one of the popular and bigger exchanges soon.
eh you really don't want to attempt to dump with 30 btc, it will do nothing to the market, hell even bitfinxex hack with its big amount of bitcoin, did not put a real dent, and you are talking about 30 btc that might impact the volume... this is just another case of incompetence by who control the email... |
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this will actually force their government to take more contorl on bitcoin, if they begin to think that chinese will use bitcoin more
it would lead to more laws for bitcoin thus hidering its adoption, in china, not exactly a good think in my view
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at the moment is just better to mine monero than doing all that stuff
500 h/s for a 1070 doesnt seem the most profitable... yeah you need the sp mod which does 900hash, but i can do 700 with the open source one Still not worth even at 900. You're winding in your super expensive power again and making blanket statements you think apply to everyone. you didn't the math properly apparently, just check wattomine, with 900 per gpu it's equal to zcash and what my power have to do with this? your logic is stupid, because if it suit for me with expensive power, it should be even more profitable for other |
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at the moment is just better to mine monero than doing all that stuff
500 h/s for a 1070 doesnt seem the most profitable... yeah you need the sp mod which does 900hash, but i can do 700 with the open source one |
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I hope I'll come close to ROI on my RX 480's  I think it will not as it is too expensive. it will run 2x faster, so even if it cost $400 it's worth it, actually it should be better because dual chip consume less than a single one, while maintaining the same hash |
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at the moment is just better to mine monero than doing all that stuff
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-i 26 seems to give the best hash/w ratio but 50% tdp is still the most interesting.
Yes. Nice find. so best results with Voltage +20% Intesity -i 26 tdp 50% memclock -500 coreclock oc'ed. +150 core clock yes , of course to find the best settings i would have to test over a much longer period of time, but it should be close  that +20mv is the key here, it's equal to running at 60% the core, in fact is above 1800, but of course you get lower wattage if you put 50%/+20mv instead of 60% PL can you try without the +20mv and tell em the core, i want to know if we have the same one, i have 1720 without the 20mv Yes that's about right, each 10% bring you about 25mhz, but above 20% at this tdp it doesn't give you more, so you can expect getting 0% Vcore 1720-30 / ~1740-50 10% / 1760-70 20%, dunno if this behavior is card dependent though, i seem to get different result than others with my OC's (EVGA FTW 1070) it's strange i tried +20% voltage on the core with msi but the core stay at 17xx with 50% power limit, i'm using 4.3.0 version of msi |
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are you using the nicehash miner? several members report that hash/wattage you can check yourself, i'm not the only one doing it, EWBF miner last version also give you roughly the same hash
what i know about the 470 is that here(europe) it cost half of a 1070 and not less like on newegg
...eth will die soon, just take a look at the new proposal block reward to diminish the miner income, block will be 1.5 instead of 5
also funny how we can't rely on zcash only(a single coin) but amd can rely on eth only...
i can't really see how amd is better here, doing a bit more than half the hash for half the price is not what i call better
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sell stuff, i was able to get 1 btc in 2 months or less by selling open frme rig, at 0.12 each when bitcoin was around $600
i only got half from that because you need to pay for the materials, but in the end i've sold 20+ of them and i reached more than 1 btc
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Yes, congrats. Hope people here are making money, 'cause it's nice to see the euphoria that's catching on around here. This feels much like 1999 with biotech and internet stocks. People were out of their minds, pouring money into mutual funds, and the prices were on a moon trajectory. Then the whole thing crashed to the ground in March/April 2000. I'm very much hoping this bitcoin bull doesn't end up taking a nap in the dirt. If you know what I mean. But in the meantime, I'm loving it.  Not sure how long you have been around but Bitcoin has had its ups and downs. Not long after hitting the last ATH it took a nose dive. Check the charts - it wasnt fun but thats part of the risk we all take. Im in for the long haul so the downs dont mean too much to me at the moment. yeah but the difference is clear, with the first ath, bitcoin reached $1200 from $90 in what? few week? so its bound to be dumped eventually, but this time is vastly different we went to $400 first, then sit there for some weeks/months, then again 750 with a retreat to 500-600, then another 750 and now 1k, i guess the bottom is the last time that the value reached it twice, so $700-800 range |
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my guide to see bitcoin price is preev.com , there the price is 992 $ so it is close to 1000$ and i am sure it will reach it very fast, happy new year to all bitcoin users preev make rate by looking at the average data on all the exchange, but the peak it's clear, it touched $1000 on kraken, so you need tow ait for preeef to say that bitcoin reached 1k and on some exchange it's already above 1k, we can touch 1200 this time |
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in current situation i think bitcoin, as bitcoin has now crossed psychological barrier of 1000 USD level therefore still can boost so i think still investing in bitcoin will be a good decision.
Actually, the fact that it took Bitcoin more than three years to reach the $1,000 mark again, after it was reached for the first time in 2013 is not going to play well to the large scale investors. They will be attracted only if there is solid proof that the prices will remain at above $1,000 levels in the future. well bitcoin started from 0.1 usd and it reach 1000(not stable) in only 4 years, then another 4 years to make it stable, i doubt you can see another dump to $200 this time, very unlikely so we increased 10000x in 8 years if you want to put it in this way, which is already way too much... |
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