QuintLeo
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January 01, 2017, 11:31:07 PM |
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I wasn't considering "special offers". Keep in mind that AMD DROPPED the MSR on the RX 470 recently and that pricing is drifting down to that new level pretty fast.
No, NOT all 1070 can do 380 sol/s at 100 watts. In fact, NONE of mine can do so - most will do 380 but not at 100 watts or even close, more like 350 at that power level at BEST for the best ones I have.
BOTH of my RX 470s with STOCK bios do a little better than the 200 sol/s you quote though - despite being ref-type designs. A BIOS upgrade would probably put them at more like 220.
Probably depends on the memory type at a guess - I remember you talking about some much higher ETH mining hashrates too that almost nobody else can manage, and a LOT higher memory clocks than I've seen any of MY cards manage.
I also suspect you paid quite a bit more than the $380 I've paid for most of my 1070 cards in order to end up with those "good memory" cards you keep trying to push as "the norm for 1070 performance".
Yes, there are a couple of other algorythms the 1070 is good at - lyrar2 seems to be the closest to ZCash profitibility on them at this point - but none of those have the sheer mass hashrate of ZCash and would quickly collapse if a large amount of hashrate had to move TO them once the zcash price fall goes far enough to make it unprofitable. AMD cards on the other hand can move to ETH/ETC which are already a lot larger on hashrate, and XMR as well which is pretty large on total hashrate as well and can soak the increase a bit easier.
I have no idea where "here" is, I have to look at the pricing where *I* am at. As I've said in many other posts, you have to crunch YOUR numbers for YOUR situation - and the situation where *I* am at based on the hard numbers *I* have to work with is that the 1070 is NOT a good choice for a dedicated mining rig vs the RX 470/480, especially since I am NOT seeing the kind of ZCash performance you are claiming out of the 1070 but am seeing BETTER performance out of the the 470.
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Amph
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January 02, 2017, 08:04:30 AM |
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are you using the nicehash miner? several members report that hash/wattage you can check yourself, i'm not the only one doing it, EWBF miner last version also give you roughly the same hash
what i know about the 470 is that here(europe) it cost half of a 1070 and not less like on newegg
...eth will die soon, just take a look at the new proposal block reward to diminish the miner income, block will be 1.5 instead of 5
also funny how we can't rely on zcash only(a single coin) but amd can rely on eth only...
i can't really see how amd is better here, doing a bit more than half the hash for half the price is not what i call better
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JaredKaragen
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My AR-15 ID's itself as a toaster. Want breakfast?
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January 02, 2017, 08:38:20 AM |
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plenty of profitability with other algos.... I am personally running my nvidia gear on skein coins for the last month. Payout has been steady and consistent.
If you have the mindset that only zcash and ETH are worth mining, please refer to the above posters comments about choosing AMD over Nvidia.
Nvidia carries a HUGE resale value compared to AMD; the gaming market soaks them up a lot more readily when it comes time to sell them.
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rawbert
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January 02, 2017, 08:51:15 AM |
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are you using the nicehash miner? several members report that hash/wattage you can check yourself, i'm not the only one doing it, EWBF miner last version also give you roughly the same hash
what i know about the 470 is that here(europe) it cost half of a 1070 and not less like on newegg
...eth will die soon, just take a look at the new proposal block reward to diminish the miner income, block will be 1.5 instead of 5
also funny how we can't rely on zcash only(a single coin) but amd can rely on eth only...
i can't really see how amd is better here, doing a bit more than half the hash for half the price is not what i call better
Even if ETH dies ETC will live on pow.. so AMD can rely on ETC, XMR, ZEC, ZCL at the minimum. 1070 looks pretty good on ZEC though.. if it could do good on XMR as well I'd build a 6x1070 rig.
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flekkelek
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January 02, 2017, 08:58:18 AM |
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Nvidia carries a HUGE resale value compared to AMD; the gaming market soaks them up a lot more readily when it comes time to sell them.
It will change soon, when kids realise nvidia is crap in dx12 and vulkan.
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Tasty Potato
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January 02, 2017, 09:05:33 AM |
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Nvidia cards are cooler, were easier to tweak for me ;p AMD cards are hot, more noise from the fans and better ROI, for sure.
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rawbert
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January 02, 2017, 09:08:39 AM |
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Nvidia cards are cooler, were easier to tweak for me ;p AMD cards are hot, more noise from the fans and better ROI, for sure.
My MSI RX470s are cold as ice and very quiet.. very easy to tweak it too via watttool.
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flekkelek
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January 02, 2017, 09:44:05 AM Last edit: January 02, 2017, 09:55:03 AM by flekkelek |
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Nvidia cards are cooler, were easier to tweak for me ;p AMD cards are hot, more noise from the fans and better ROI, for sure.
it's only problem with shitty laptops and old amd cards. Anyways why does the temperature even count? AMD can run over 80°C without any problems.
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gscotch
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June 08, 2017, 07:09:08 PM |
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Hi I just wanted to check how my msi gtx 1070 armor OC works with Etherum mining I have overclocked only GPU RAM to 4475 Mhz ( by +675) ( 2 days of stable mining work), full speed fan temp 56 degrees C . power 75% of TDP according to GPU-Z
below example of hashrate
ETH: 06/08/17-20:59:05 - New job from eth-eu.pool.sexy:9009 ETH - Total Speed: 30.591 Mh/s, Total Shares: 780, Rejected: 0, Time: 14:02 ETH: GPU0 30.591 Mh/s ETH: 06/08/17-20:59:13 - New job from eth-eu.pool.sexy:9009 ETH - Total Speed: 30.372 Mh/s, Total Shares: 780, Rejected: 0, Time: 14:02 ETH: GPU0 30.372 Mh/s ETH: 06/08/17-20:59:19 - New job from eth-eu.pool.sexy:9009 ETH - Total Speed: 29.531 Mh/s, Total Shares: 780, Rejected: 0, Time: 14:02 ETH: GPU0 29.531 Mh/s ETH: 06/08/17-20:59:24 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 0) ETH: Share accepted (93 ms)! ETH: 06/08/17-20:59:26 - New job from eth-eu.pool.sexy:9009 ETH - Total Speed: 28.799 Mh/s, Total Shares: 781, Rejected: 0, Time: 14:02 ETH: GPU0 28.799 Mh/s ETH: 06/08/17-20:59:31 - New job from eth-eu.pool.sexy:9009 ETH - Total Speed: 29.283 Mh/s, Total Shares: 781, Rejected: 0, Time: 14:02 ETH: GPU0 29.283 Mh/s
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