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2941  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: May 16, 2014, 07:34:14 PM
You are saying something there...

EU stated today that the sanctions against Russia will not touch the energy sector.
http://lenta.ru/news/2014/05/16/sanctions1/
[sarcasm]Oh, thank you very much, EU, you are so generous![/sarcasm]



The court of appeal in Ukraine sustained ban on transmission of 4 Russian TV channels on Ukrainian territory:
http://www.newsru.com/world/16may2014/russiantv.html
2942  Other / Politics & Society / Re: VISA & MASTERCARD blocked Russians from accessing their money on: May 16, 2014, 06:25:43 PM
So , this will actually not hurt their profits
Yes, in case of absence of sanctions. It seems like this deposits are will be used as something like insurance fund.

Let's for a moment suppose that visa and mastercard go nuts.
They block all the card and money transfers.

What would be the short term consequences?
A bank run? A drop in e-commerce? enormous use of webmoney ? Bitcoin usage?

If I discover that Visa stops its operations, I would look for alternatives, and Bitcoin would be an obvious choice. I would be asking international merchants to accept BTC in the absence of Visa payments.
Bank run? No.
2943  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: May 16, 2014, 06:20:12 PM
Bad move, I'd say. Akhmetov is the richest man in Ukraine, worth some $16 billion. He can easily import mercenaries from all across the globe and destroy the Donetsk People's Army.

Hmm... that aspect should be considered as well.

Meanwhile, Akhmetov is reportedly going ballistic over the Donetsk People's Republic's move to nationalize the heavy industries. I am OK with the proposal, as the profits will go to workers instead of the corrupt oligarch.

http://www.0629.com.ua/article/534994

Nationalization?  Oh my god! What is this , back to '45 ?


No, to 1917.
2944  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: May 16, 2014, 03:33:45 PM
Kiev troops open fire on RT journalist near Kramatorsk (VIDEO)
http://rt.com/news/159468-ukraine-shoot-army-journalist/

This got corrected to:

Reporter walks into tripwire flare while shooting for RT near Ukraine’s Kramatorsk (VIDEO)
2945  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: May 16, 2014, 03:05:10 PM
There is only one major difference between USA and USSR. Constitution of USA doesn't provide a right to secede, while USSR constitution provided a possibility of such procedure. This difference makes a peaceful dissolution almost impossible.

That you think the USSR constitution was followed, or even meant something, is very telling... Sad

You are right there. It was not followed at least on one very telling occasion: when Crimea was transferred from RSFSR to UkSSR. Wink
2946  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: May 16, 2014, 03:03:49 PM
Some sane voices do exist in Western Europe.  Grin

EU policy to blame for Ukraine crisis - Ex-Chancellor Schroeder

http://rt.com/news/158432-schroeder-russia-sanctions-eu/

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Germany’s former Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder has blamed European Union policy for the current situation in Ukraine and urged the West to stop focusing on new sanctions against Russia. In Schroeder’s opinion, the EU’s fundamental mistake - that subsequently led to the ongoing crisis in Ukraine – was its association policy, he said in an interview with German newspaper Welt am Sonntag published Sunday.

That's kind of a stupid statement. He is blaming the existence of a group of countries that have economic agreements, that were good enough that Ukraine wanted to join in, on what happened in Ukraine? I would have blamed whoever it was that was trying to prevent Ukraine from joining the thing they waned to join. I mean, it's almost like blaming the store a person was trying to get to for that person getting mugged, and not the mugger that prevented that person from getting to the store.

Ukraine also wanted to join the Customs Union. Russia said, fine, we can talk about it. EU said, no way, choose either us or them.
2947  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: May 16, 2014, 01:45:28 PM
He-he  Grin People's Republic of Donetsk suggested Akhmetov pays taxes to the budget of the new republic:
http://www.interfax.ru/world/376504

Ukrainian Military blockpost new Slavjansk TV tower got under fire by Republican forces:
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/05/16/n_6156857.shtml

Well, they had the ultimatum deadline, didn't they?

National Guard of Ukraine confirmed that a Ukrainian blockpost near Harkov (town Izjum) came under fire:
http://ria.ru/world/20140516/1008065968.html
2948  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crimea on: May 16, 2014, 01:40:14 PM
Some interesting news regarding Crimea:

Putin said that it is not defensible to involve Crimean people in the discussions between Russia and Ukraine:
http://itar-tass.com/politika/1191437?utm_medium=rss20

Hrivna will stop being circulated in Crimea and Sevastopol from the 1st of June:
http://www.interfax.ru/russia/376507

All public demonstrations and are prohibited in Crimea until the 6th of June, citing unrest in the South-Eastern regions of Ukraine and the desire to prevent any provocations:
http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1802523.html
2949  Other / Politics & Society / Re: VISA & MASTERCARD blocked Russians from accessing their money on: May 16, 2014, 01:35:32 PM
It would seem that Moscow Times is closer to what I read being proposed earlier, a deposit and not a tax.
2950  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: May 16, 2014, 01:29:56 PM
it comes to a point where food and clothing and security is more important than football, who cares about games if u cant even cross the street without getting a bullet from US/NATO/KIEV/MOSCOW backed soldier.

Fixed the amount of soldiers Smiley.


eventually you right, soon there will be revenge and western backed Ukraine will see also massacres  

That's what NATO's been waiting for - the acts of revenge that can suddenly get broadcast in Western media, touted as acts of aggression, excusing NATO invasion. For earlier examples, see Yugoslavia.

According to the local media here, almost nothing happened in Ukraine this past month. Ukraine? Everything's fine and peaceful there...
2951  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: May 16, 2014, 12:04:28 PM
UN Ukraine report shows double standards in attempt to whitewash Kiev's actions - Russia
http://rt.com/news/159388-un-report-ukraine-criticism/

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Moscow has accused a UN report on violence in Ukraine’s Odessa of being purposefully blind to hard facts and simply “carrying out a political order to whitewash” the actions of the coup-appointed government in Kiev.

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Among other things, it [the report] also focuses on the problems the Tatar minority currently faces in Crimea - although there’s no mention of Kiev blocking the region’s freshwater supply – which “violates a whole range of human rights”.

...

The foreign ministry found it peculiar that “in some 30 pages of text, there is not one mention of any manifestation of aggressive nationalism and neo-Nazism in Ukraine.”

...

The icing on the cake, in Moscow’s view, could be seen in the venue where the UN findings were presented – and by whom: in Kiev, by the UN secretary-general’s assistant, Ivan Shimonovich, who has a “reputation for a lack of objectivity, making sweeping judgments” and “unsubstantiated claims.”

Shimonovich’s role in the presentation is seen as “an unambiguous indication” of the OHCHR’s bias and lack of independence and objectivity.
2952  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 'Lift the skirt’ campaign urges French schoolboys to skip trousers for a day on: May 16, 2014, 12:02:08 PM
More on lifting the skirt...

French ‘Boys in Skirts’ campaign engenders conservative backlash
http://rt.com/news/159380-boys-skirts-france-protest/

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The ‘Lift the Skirt’ campaign encouraging French schoolboys to show up to class in traditionally female attire has incited a tense counter protest from conservative groups.

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“It is not a trivial matter,” the group’s president Ludovine de La Rochère said. “It is a form of cross-dressing and is therefore a denial of the boys’ sexual identity,” she continued. “It is disrespectful to masculinity and femininity.”

On the other hand:

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Many students were angered that adults had attempted to promote their own agendas on the back of the student-led initiative.

"They have no right to come to our lycee and hijack our idea," Laurine, a student, told the French language news website 20 Minutes.

"You can protest against sexism without having the intention to promote gender theory. That has nothing to do with the original issue and aim of this demonstration," said another.
2953  Other / Politics & Society / Re: VISA & MASTERCARD blocked Russians from accessing their money on: May 16, 2014, 10:51:31 AM
How the hell will a 25% fee on profit be larger than the revenue?

75% of profit is not profit at all, it won't even cover the bribes... sorry, lobbying. Smiley
2954  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crimea on: May 16, 2014, 10:48:45 AM
Putin just said it will not happen. He is not known to back off on his statements:
http://rt.com/business/159200-ukraine-gas-russia-payment/

The other scenario that you mentioned is more likely: Ukraine fragmenting and falling apart so much that there is no one left to pay the debt, in which case IMF suggests "default and debt restructuring".
2955  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: May 16, 2014, 10:43:43 AM
I would prefer if 247crypto collated his messages and provided at least English summary titles to the videos he links to, if only to make later searching easier. A collection of links, without any indication what they refer to is rather worthless, even if the documentary footage is meant to capture the events for the posterity.
2956  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Operation American Spring - days away! on: May 16, 2014, 09:28:49 AM
10-30 Millions?
He's going to be lucky if there will be 10 to 30 people showing up.
Plus a few hundred RT reporters Smiley.
I see we are optimistic today. Smiley
2957  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Operation American Spring - days away! on: May 16, 2014, 08:00:17 AM
I can't say I am happy about violent changes of power...

Operation American Spring: Militias promise to oust Obama, Boehner on Friday
http://rt.com/usa/159244-operation-american-spring-washington/
2958  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ukraine rejects Russia Gazprom gas price hike on: May 16, 2014, 07:53:29 AM
Russia to deliver gas to Ukraine only on prepayment - Putin
http://rt.com/business/159200-ukraine-gas-russia-payment/

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“Moreover, the situation with payments for Russian gas only got worse over this period of time. Gazprom has not received a single payment for the gas supplied to Ukraine, and the total debt has grown from $2.237 billion to $3.508 billion,” the president stressed.

“And this despite the fact that Ukraine has received the first tranche of the IMF loan in the amount of $3.2 billion,” he added.
2959  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: May 16, 2014, 07:17:00 AM


 Grin Spluttered there...
- Let's go to a bar, drink some, find girls, have sex.
- What? While the girls are watching?



It's the area around Slavjansk:
Circle: Ukrainian Army positions
Arrows: Regular exchange of fire
2960  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: May 16, 2014, 07:14:20 AM
I wonder how much more land will got to Russia and which nation will be next? Cough *Belarus Cough

Very doubtful. You see, Belarus plays the role of a buffer state nicely. Lukashenko participated during the recent nuclear shield drills, saying that he was happy about what he saw and implying that such shield also guarantees the safety and sovereignty of Belarus from external (Western) aggression, Belarus is active in the customs union. The population there is not deprived of their rights.
Ukraine was jumping between two seats, and finally fell between both. People there, after years of neglect instability and bullying from the government decided that enough is enough and took the fate into their own hands.
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