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it comes to a point where food and clothing and security is more important than football, who cares about games if u cant even cross the street without getting a bullet from US/NATO/KIEV/MOSCOW backed soldier.
Fixed the amount of soldiers ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) .
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Balthazar
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May 16, 2014, 12:52:58 PM Last edit: May 16, 2014, 01:24:15 PM by Balthazar |
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it comes to a point where food and clothing and security is more important than football, who cares about games if u cant even cross the street without getting a bullet from US/NATO/KIEV backed soldier.
It seems that there is no problem with food http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKIGh26M6ok ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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May 16, 2014, 01:03:19 PM |
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As for the photo... who cares if it's fake or not , it's better that dead bodies ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) . Better than Conchita too ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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May 16, 2014, 01:25:32 PM |
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it comes to a point where food and clothing and security is more important than football, who cares about games if u cant even cross the street without getting a bullet from US/NATO/KIEV/MOSCOW backed soldier.
Fixed the amount of soldiers ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . eventually you right, soon there will be revenge and western backed Ukraine will see also massacres
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testing ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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May 16, 2014, 01:29:56 PM |
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it comes to a point where food and clothing and security is more important than football, who cares about games if u cant even cross the street without getting a bullet from US/NATO/KIEV/MOSCOW backed soldier.
Fixed the amount of soldiers ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . eventually you right, soon there will be revenge and western backed Ukraine will see also massacres That's what NATO's been waiting for - the acts of revenge that can suddenly get broadcast in Western media, touted as acts of aggression, excusing NATO invasion. For earlier examples, see Yugoslavia. According to the local media here, almost nothing happened in Ukraine this past month. Ukraine? Everything's fine and peaceful there...
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.” “We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.” “It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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May 16, 2014, 01:38:15 PM |
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It's better to perform acts of revenge against US embassy. Anyway, Ukraine is not Yugoslavia, NATO won't be able to do anything here without fatal risks for own existance.
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May 16, 2014, 01:45:28 PM |
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He-he ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) People's Republic of Donetsk suggested Akhmetov pays taxes to the budget of the new republic: http://www.interfax.ru/world/376504Ukrainian Military blockpost new Slavjansk TV tower got under fire by Republican forces: http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/05/16/n_6156857.shtmlWell, they had the ultimatum deadline, didn't they? National Guard of Ukraine confirmed that a Ukrainian blockpost near Harkov (town Izjum) came under fire: http://ria.ru/world/20140516/1008065968.html
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.” “We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.” “It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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May 16, 2014, 03:07:41 PM |
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May 16, 2014, 03:24:29 PM |
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Bad move, I'd say. Akhmetov is the richest man in Ukraine, worth some $16 billion. He can easily import mercenaries from all across the globe and destroy the Donetsk People's Army.
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May 16, 2014, 03:29:40 PM |
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His taxes currently are being used by Kiev for paying mercenaries, so it would be unsafe to keep status quo if you wish to win this game. Sometimes you have to make move even if it looks bad. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Akhmetov is the richest man in Ukraine, worth some $16 billion.
That's not quite right, because this approximation include his shares and other assets. The most of his property located here. So in case of confiscation this approximation will drop significantly due to losing control on assets and dropping shares value.
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May 16, 2014, 03:33:45 PM Last edit: May 16, 2014, 06:22:23 PM by Nemo1024 |
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Kiev troops open fire on RT journalist near Kramatorsk (VIDEO)http://rt.com/news/159468-ukraine-shoot-army-journalist/This got corrected to: Reporter walks into tripwire flare while shooting for RT near Ukraine’s Kramatorsk (VIDEO)
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.” “We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.” “It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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May 16, 2014, 03:44:38 PM |
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Bad move, I'd say. Akhmetov is the richest man in Ukraine, worth some $16 billion. He can easily import mercenaries from all across the globe and destroy the Donetsk People's Army.
Hmm... that aspect should be considered as well. Meanwhile, Akhmetov is reportedly going ballistic over the Donetsk People's Republic's move to nationalize the heavy industries. I am OK with the proposal, as the profits will go to workers instead of the corrupt oligarch. http://www.0629.com.ua/article/534994
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May 16, 2014, 03:56:39 PM |
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Nationalization... Almost century passed since invention of this procedure, but it still useful against oligarchs. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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May 16, 2014, 05:32:29 PM |
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Bad move, I'd say. Akhmetov is the richest man in Ukraine, worth some $16 billion. He can easily import mercenaries from all across the globe and destroy the Donetsk People's Army.
Hmm... that aspect should be considered as well. Meanwhile, Akhmetov is reportedly going ballistic over the Donetsk People's Republic's m ove to nationalize the heavy industries. I am OK with the proposal, as the profits will go to workers instead of the corrupt oligarch. http://www.0629.com.ua/article/534994Nationalization? Oh my god! What is this , back to '45 ?
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May 16, 2014, 05:35:00 PM |
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Nationalization... Almost century passed since invention of this procedure, but it still useful against oligarchs. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The problem is , who decides who is the oligarchs Reminds me when the communist party decided that you're an oppressor a "chiabur" for having two cows while your neighbor who was an alcoholic and wasn't working more than 1 hour a day had none
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May 16, 2014, 05:38:17 PM |
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Nationalization... Almost century passed since invention of this procedure, but it still useful against oligarchs. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The problem is , who decides who is the oligarchs Reminds me when the communist party decided that you're an oppressor a "chiabur" for having two cows while your neighbor who was an alcoholic and wasn't working more than 1 hour a day had none They are only following the law. "The powerful controls the weak." That is the real law of the land.
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May 16, 2014, 05:44:16 PM |
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Nationalization... Almost century passed since invention of this procedure, but it still useful against oligarchs. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The problem is , who decides who is the oligarchs Reminds me when the communist party decided that you're an oppressor a "chiabur" for having two cows while your neighbor who was an alcoholic and wasn't working more than 1 hour a day had none They are only following the law. "The powerful controls the weak." That is the real law of the land. Yeah , that is in theory , but sometimes the weak ones control the others barbecue the strong ones are plain stupid.
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May 16, 2014, 05:45:53 PM |
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Nationalization... Almost century passed since invention of this procedure, but it still useful against oligarchs. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The problem is , who decides who is the oligarchs It's very simple... If somebody earns money on your territory and uses this money against you through paying the mercenaries, then you have to bring the situation to your control. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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May 16, 2014, 05:49:58 PM |
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Nationalization... Almost century passed since invention of this procedure, but it still useful against oligarchs. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The problem is , who decides who is the oligarchs It's very simple... If somebody earns money on your territory and uses this money against you through paying the mercenaries, then you have to bring the situation to your control. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Yeah , this is the main idea , and it's the good one. But starting this "purge" is like opening the pandora box. In the end oligarchs will we all the people who don't shout "sieg heil" in the morning or oppose the "country".
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May 16, 2014, 06:20:12 PM |
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Bad move, I'd say. Akhmetov is the richest man in Ukraine, worth some $16 billion. He can easily import mercenaries from all across the globe and destroy the Donetsk People's Army.
Hmm... that aspect should be considered as well. Meanwhile, Akhmetov is reportedly going ballistic over the Donetsk People's Republic's m ove to nationalize the heavy industries. I am OK with the proposal, as the profits will go to workers instead of the corrupt oligarch. http://www.0629.com.ua/article/534994Nationalization? Oh my god! What is this , back to '45 ? No, to 1917.
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.” “We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.” “It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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