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2941  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gamble small amount i win and when i gamble big i loose. on: September 04, 2016, 02:32:05 PM
The amount of bet has zero effect on the result in any game where provably fair system is implemented. That is other thing when you stick with martingale or any other method which you use to repeat again and again for long sessions. That thing may have effect as house can calculate your style or can rearrange the appearance of results. That will still be fair even you loose and someone with small bets will win.

I agree with this. Bet amount doesn't matter and affects your chances of winning. If it does, then all we see in high rollers will all be red every singe bets because they are betting with a high amount of bets. The thing is, if you bet big, you are also being hit big emotionally compared to just losing small with no significant  profit or loss.
2942  Economy / Economics / Re: When do you buy Bitcoin ? on: September 04, 2016, 02:25:07 PM
Very easy question for answer, when price is low(for you personaly), better to take some bitcoins for investing/gambling/holding whatever.
yeah of course when the situation is right to buy such a low price or when I need some bitcoin. of course I'm going to buy bitcoin.

Price has crossed $600 level so I don't think this is the right time to buy, I bought at $570 level in last week and I hope that price keeps on rising from here now.

you expect the price to continue to rise, but your own doubts that now the right time to buy bitcoin.
I think the current time is always good to buy a bitcoin if you believe the price will rise.

Long term holder will prefer to buy at any price, as short term fluctuations won't make any difference to him as he is aware that he can gain higher benefits in future if he holds his coins tight.

I could not agree more. If you have many excess money that comes in in a regular basis, then you can invest long term by buying bitcoins regularly no matter what the price of the market is. Everything will be compounded and you will get overall profit in the future.
2943  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: September 04, 2016, 02:10:28 PM
i don't know,maybe a little if get bored with something that usually i do everyday,  Grin
oh wow thats a lot to be honest, i think i wouldnt play then because i would already have enough money and there wouldnt be a need to do that

I presumed that you are gambling for profit because the way you say it speaks for itself - you won't play already because you already have enough money. Otherwise, if you still play even if you are rich already, then you are just playing games for entertainment and not for profit which we should always remember also that gambling is just for fun!
2944  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: September 04, 2016, 02:07:05 PM
I believe that you're used to gamble using Bitcoin, so in this case you need to transfer funds to a cold storage and also download some interesting games to your desktop, keeping you busy and away from gambling.

Putting in secure of your funds with cold storage is not going to be helpful too. Because if you are the one who is in control with that storage. For sure when
your hands becomes itchy you are still going to get your funds with it and still you can't able to stay away from gambling. But it is better if you are going to put your funds on a time deposit.

I remember in one of the online casino dice game that I played often, players are creating 2 accounts: one for betting and the other one for bank. When they win some profits, they always tipped it to their banks so that worst comes to worst, they will not lost all of their bitcoins. However, I noticed that most of the time, people are also getting bitcoins from their banks especially when they suffered some loses - they call the getting of money from their bank as robbing their banks.
2945  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: September 04, 2016, 02:02:57 PM
of course im not rich because of it and i never will be, gambling always makes you lose money

If you will not invest all of your money in gambling then you will not lose at there, gambling is a place of fun and entertainment so you should have to spend only that mount of your money which you will afford for getting entertainment. There are a lot of people who are gambling from longer period and they do not lose their wealth at there but only spend a smaller amount.

Professional gamblers play a lot of time but never lose big always as compared to novice gamblers. The former is more on systematic gambling while the latter is gambling based on randomness. In gambling, we should have a system that we will only stick of using no matter what. When gambling, act act and bet like a pro gambler.
2946  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: September 04, 2016, 01:59:22 PM
When I have free time I just navigate gambling site to see the results appearing. When I see someone winning big it gives me hope and I become enthusiastic to play. I have recovered some big part by playing slow but still I feel need to recover more. It is hope and good times feeling what says me to try my luck once again and again each time.

Good that you are disciplined enough to just do slow betting. Most of the gamblers that are losers are quite aggressive and most of the time empty their bankroll at the end of the day. When you have a system in place, you will win over time compared to people or gambler that doesn't have any system at all.
2947  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: September 04, 2016, 01:55:52 PM
If i get per week 0.1 earnings then i will quit my job, as my expenses to be meet , so i am doing my day job apart from that i am also online and doing bitcoin signature campaign and altcoin trading and skill work for bitcoins.

So is 0.4 per month is enough for you to take of your living, as 0.4 is not that high amount that we can afford to quit the job but it will also depend on where you are living and what is salary you are getting in fiat.
In third class countries 0.4 is a much good salary for fulfilling their expenditures, in those countries I have saw that most of the educated people work for only $100  per month (that is something 0.16, according to current price) and they try to live with that for the whole month.
Its kind of wizzard to be able to live with 100 dollars montly, for me it would require atleast 1-3 btc monthly as income, but i wouldnt left my real job as i can get my salarie and a good extra with bitcoin, soo i can retire sooner.
yeah i think earning $ 100 per month would be less? especially if you live in a country that has a high cost of living? I think the least you must have a monthly income of 1-3 before you try to work full time in bitcoin. for now I have not reached it

Yeah minimum 1 btc is required to live a good life and if you cannot manage to earn that amount regularly then its better not to quit your job or else you will find yourself in trouble.

That is right. My goal since I left my day job is to earn at least 3 btc minimum eery month - that is 0.1 bitcoin a day. Although I have not into that point as of this writing, I am confident that with hard work and dedication, I will reach that 0.1 btc a day or 3 btc a month minimum income.
2948  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: September 04, 2016, 01:51:24 PM
Gambling is actually not wrong if you gamble  only for fun and do not spend to much or play to much. As we all know that all too much would always be not good.
of course it is not wrong at all, in my opinion people can do whatever they want with their money so i doubt that it is such a bad thing

Yes i don't know the real reason behind it but human really find it fun to gamble in some occasion. I myself do the same way especially if you play with your friends or relatives. I think that when person gets addicted to it then that would be the real problem.

I remember some funny jokes before that there were 2 buddies and really close friends that are gamblers. One of them realized and contemplated that gambling is bad for him and for his family and decided to quit gambling with all convictions. One afternoon, he told his buddy about it and all he received was a laugh and disbelief. He was upset that his buddy never believe what he says so he challenge his buddy to gamble a $100 dollar - if he really quits, he will win the $100 and if he still continues, his buddy will win the $100.
2949  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: People hate Bitcoins? on: September 04, 2016, 01:28:46 PM
If proper knowledge and features provided to all it will help them to understand better and may interest them as well.

I think people hate bitcoin. because they do not know anything about bitcoin. so they hate bitcoin without any reason. I think it is a strange thing
you are right that there is some people have no knowledge about bitcoin i also think because they hate bitcoin if they get knowledge about bitcoin then i am they love to bitcoin with faithfully.
i agree with , you are right that the lack of knowledge about bitcoin because they hate to bitcoin if they learn about bitcoin then i also hope they will start love to bitcoin.

If we want that they should start loving bitcoin then we need to take initiative and show them the benefits attached with bitcoin, and if we succeed then we can expect more users in future.

We can also contribute by warning people from investing to scam and hyip sites and as well as be very vigilant to people that are offering these kind of scams whether here in the forum or in any other venues.. This way, we will help maintain the trust and confidence level of bitcoins to all.
2950  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: September 04, 2016, 01:21:42 PM
No i don't see that happen in any time in future and I will say it's impossible to happen because we can not compare them.Bitcoin is a different thing all together,its a virtual currency and banks hold our fiat money and no matter how much popular bitcoins become in this world but they cannot replace banks.

Although banks can handle our money digitally without even using physical money in any transactions just like bitcoins, it is still not enough that bitcoin will replace current bank institutions of ours. As long as we are ruled by a government, banks (mostly owned by elite families of the societies) then it will continue to serve us for a longer period of time.
2951  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can u lose with gambling? on: September 04, 2016, 01:15:46 PM
The answer is very very simple, everything you own. If you start gambling and don't stop, eventually you will lose everything. All those winning stories are total BS.
Actually not, what you're saying is that you will lose everything you own when you're addicted only but if your not then you will not lose everything you owned.


If you just follow strictly your bankroll management and pre-planned betting, then you are good to go. However, if you don't have the discipline to follow your system, your chances of getting bust is very big. So, if you are just new in gambling, better to play it safe and only deposit money that you can afford to lose.
2952  Other / Archival / Re: Do you use bitcoin as currency or investment? on: September 04, 2016, 01:13:22 PM
Nowdays i am using bitcoin as investment cause as currency it's not really good enough, it's hard to even spend somewhere without exchanging. Sad
Oww that's great that you're holding your bitcoin and you keep on earning so that you can rich your capital for investment for me since you don't have signature campaign try to join and you can earn so that in can help you too to earn bitcoin and so that you can easily rich your goal capital to start investing or trading

With signature campaign, we can get some bitcoins and in my case, I use my earnings to trade and do some dice games and sportsbetting. I am now learning myself how to properly and systematically trade with crypto currencies. I feel in love in trading because I really find it cool - making money by implementing yur tecnical and fundamental skills.
2953  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can I use my small amount for GAMBLING? on: September 04, 2016, 01:06:46 PM
The chance of making it big with small amounts are there but its almost nil. You must have the mindset that you have already lost it or you have nothing if you really wan into get into gamblinh

But if you gamble with big money also there is not guarantee that you will win money from any gambling sites. Because gambling is not for making money but just to enjoy these exciting with some fee but if you try to make money then you may lose a lot of money. So don't think that you will win in gambling if you have a big bankroll.

This is a correct statement. Even with high bankroll, there is still no guarantee that you will win overall because gambling is a game of luck. However, given with high bankroll, you can divide it to several sessions and play per session basis so that you give yourself more chances to get lucky.
2954  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: September 04, 2016, 01:04:09 PM
I think that the best way fot this, a steady income over time, is buying in the all time low, and then wait for a long time or you can do some trading with cryptos.

this is a good strategy - buying when the price is super low and selling when it reaches to your goal price amount. Trading crypto is very exciting especially when you notice some pump and dump - your quick move shall be to position yourself for profit in either pump or dump situation.
2955  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: September 04, 2016, 12:55:04 PM
I would prefer gambling if you can control yourself from betting until the point you lose it all. If you want a safer route, I would invest it or maybe just not touch it and wait for the Bitcoin price to rise.
yeah i like gambling way more to be honest, in my opinion it also is more entertaining and allows to make some more money over time

It will really make more money if you are very lucky. You can make yourself more luckier though by creating sessions and bankroll management. On the other hand, I believe trading is also profitable and exciting if you found winners based on your technical skill analysis. You will be proud of yourself when you win because it validates that you are correct. You can see significant profit if you have big bankroll though.

I like gambling. And because I have 8 to 9 hrs job 5 1/2 days a week I don't have much time to trade actively but I did save some btc as long term investment. Also I have invested more to a trusted group that are doing the business like trades, etc. Since I also love gambling I invested 3/4 of my gambling portion into a reliable gambling site while I gamble the remaining 1/4 in another gambling site. Different site because I am not bad in betting which means a lost to a gambling site.      

Nice spread of assets there. As far as I can noticed it, these kind of person that have a system and can easily track all of their assets in terms of percentage are the one who get to be successful compared to people who doesn't have any records of their investment, assets, liabilities, and expenses. This is just my personal observation.

So if you know that you are good at gambling, then you better choose gambling and if it is trading that you are good of, then go to trading.
2956  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: How can I know those HYIP site are paying? on: September 04, 2016, 12:47:13 PM
Never ever trust a HYIP, ALL of them are scams, you either have to be very very lucky, or lose money. Pretty much gambling is a better choice.

Even if you get some payout (when you are the first investors), that is not to be proud of because those payouts are coming from new victims that have invested to these hyip sites.

Better stay away from them and you will thank me along with others here that advices the same as mine.
2957  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: September 04, 2016, 12:36:35 PM
I would prefer gambling if you can control yourself from betting until the point you lose it all. If you want a safer route, I would invest it or maybe just not touch it and wait for the Bitcoin price to rise.
yeah i like gambling way more to be honest, in my opinion it also is more entertaining and allows to make some more money over time

It will really make more money if you are very lucky. You can make yourself more luckier though by creating sessions and bankroll management. On the other hand, I believe trading is also profitable and exciting if you found winners based on your technical skill analysis. You will be proud of yourself when you win because it validates that you are correct. You can see significant profit if you have big bankroll though.
2958  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Happen If Gambling was not introduced? on: September 04, 2016, 12:32:16 PM
There are tons of fields of entertainment in our life. Gambling is just one of them. I think if people didn't have the urge to bet against each other, gambling will not be introduced. If that happens, it will somehow affect the competition going on around the world. Sporty people wouldn't do sports anymore unless they are totally passionate about it.

As an example, basketball players get paid for millions in one game because people bet on them. If those people didn't bet on them, those basketball players will only get money from the advertisers and the only thing they'll get from winning is the "record" that they have "won" the game.

Yeah,

But I believed, Even thought it is not introduced,
It will still come to its way wherein it will automatically be develop.

competition is parts of human nature, So If there is competition,
a little revision to it will become gambling.
There is no way it won't e introduced.

Correct and maybe the development of gambling really comes from competition and people tend to prove to others that they can predict the outcome of the game they are watching and to make it more exciting, they will place their bets in the form of goods or money.  I don't know but I am just thinking now the possibilities.
2959  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can u lose with gambling? on: September 04, 2016, 12:24:02 PM
I always lose all money with gambling, because for me, go big or go home and i always go home, sad. I lose much money on gambling and i never count it.
We cannot count our loses but we can count our winnings, cause winning moment is lesser than losing. We can lose most of the time, but when we win once, we can probably happy because winning once is higher amount than the amount of what we lose.

This really makes sense. In gambling, most of the time, you will definitely lose versus winning. Also, a good example is people who buy lotto tickets regularly.. they lose all of the time even to their entire lifetime while they are still betting and they can no longer count their losses..
2960  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can I use my small amount for GAMBLING? on: September 04, 2016, 12:19:24 PM
yes. we can use small amounts of funds to play gambling. but we will also benefit slightly.
because the larger the capital then the greater the for profit.

Correct. With small amount, you will not see significant profit from your betting and it can be very boring that way. It will be a waste of time and effort to get really small profit in the event you will be in profit. However, if you are just playing for fun, then I would suggest to just gamble small amount of money that you can afford to lose.
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