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2461  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: October 24, 2016, 01:01:58 PM
There is no strategy that works in gambling to achieve the profit but there are some to limit the loss.One which i have noticed that never keep your bitcoins in gambling sites or casinos,if they are there you will gamble if dont even want to,only deposit there when you are ready for it and feel that you can be bit lucky.

There is really no wreck proof strategies when it comes to gambling - but, it is ideal to have a strategy or should I see strategies than don't have any strategies at all and just bet in random. Hence, I would suggest, if you really want to do good with gambling, you better first decide for yourself that you are willing to spend most of your time during the day and night learning strategies just like what pro gamblers does.
2462  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: October 24, 2016, 12:59:26 PM
Gambling per se with the goal of profiting is really bad for new to gambling - the reason is that, they doesn't know anything about house edge and how to mitigate this fact in order to beat casino through creating more sessions, proper bankroll management, pre-planned betting, and the like. In order for you to learn these, it takes time and many experiences.

You do not ned to gamble with your money which are for your life and for your investment in your business so it will not make you wreck and you will lose only that money which will be a little and will be affordable to you to lose.
Yes right we should never ever gambler that money which is being planned to use for other important things like studies or investements or family because that loss you could not afford to loose and this can really wreck your life or make your reputation really bad in the society.
That's a recipe for disaster, usually under the situation, it is where the devil will play on us if we do that. Always bet what you can afford to lose if you wan to continue to enjoy gambling, never bet with your heart but always bet with your mind and follow your game plan.
I think in gambling if we play with our heart and if we play with our mind no matter, if we have the luck we will win our bet, or else we lose our bet that's it. But I never played with my heart I always play with my mind. So it gives me some profit in sports betting. It helps me to fulfil my daily needs, but it does not fix my life.
Well sometimes people get desperate and become in need of money immediately. Gambling would definitely be one of their options as one would get quite a hefty sum when they win jackpots. In desperation, they would have a belief that gambling can fix their situation. And in real life, it almost always do the opposite. Whatever the reason, however dire the situation is, gambling is never going to fix anything.
That's kinda stupid move for a person who are in desperate need of money, gambling is never an option in desperate needs because we cannot gamble our remaining money hoping that it will grow, I have not tried this one because when I am desperate need of money I will just borrow money.
2463  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you want to become Rich you need to Put Higher bets on: October 24, 2016, 12:49:10 PM
I am quite sure gambling don't have any safe zone and players are losing their money to the house. No matter what amount they put on risk it is small or big. But that is sure they are not going to be get rich with this way.
not necessarily, because when you are lucky in gambling, you might become rich. Imagine, when you bet in significant amounts, and won gambling in quite a long time, I think it could make your financial increase, although it makes direct tida be rich, but it may make a lot of money

Correct. Even if you only bet with your usual bet amount, you have still the potential to be rich as long as you keep winning and lucky. My point is, this is really hard because of the house edge advantage of casinos - unless, you have a good strategy and proper bankroll management coupled with discipline like that of professional gamblers.
2464  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: October 19, 2016, 07:22:35 PM
I don't think gambling should be considered as sickness. When you find out someone is gambling, you can't just say something like "Oh my god, you're gambling? You're so sick. You have to seek professional help." It doesn't work that way. Too much gambling is the one that can be considered as sickness. Like when you get that urge to gamble every minute and you can't fight it.
I agree and first of all the people who are gambling made there own choice and they wanted to gamble so if they want to spend there money that way you cannot blame gambling for it.
Gambling is not a sickness because if people want to stop they can do it.
Gambling is not a sickness because we are enjoying it but if we go beyond the normal way to do it then we will experience the big problem that other gamblers had experience, we cannot just gamble and use our money on bets base on our luck because the result will surely hurt us.

Well gambling will always hurts you and make you loose pretty a lot! So if you gambles you should expect this things thou gambling will base most in your luck then if you have luck then you can earn on that day but in the other day if your luck is gone then you are keep on loosing.
no gambling is not going to hurt you or ruin your life. it is you who is responsible for all these things, to me the most important thing in gambling is your  mentality that how do you like to play gambling?

That is correct mate. As long as you are just gambling for fun, then there is really no problem at all. The bad thing is that when you start considering gambling as your source of income, then that is the time that you will encounter much of life disappointment because you will most likely to lose than you win. Unless you are lucky enough and are a professional gambler.
2465  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: did you put all your money into bitcoin? on: October 17, 2016, 03:08:58 PM
Same here i put my money into bitcoin since year ago and now i am making a profit.. i am still not satisfied for the price today and block halving is not done yet so i will wait more days after block halving before i sell my bitcoin so that you i can make more profit..
Never put all your money into the bitcoin because what if the price falls to the bottom and all of your money is into the bitcoin i dont think you will get back anything of that
because everything is lost.

Correct. You should follow what experts commonly agree that in terms of investing, you need to diversify your portfolio so as to mitigate the risks. If you only place all of your eggs in 1 basket and that basket falls, then you lose all of those eggs - compared to placing all of your eggs to different baskets and if 1 or 2 will fall, you still have many that are up and earning you some money.
2466  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: October 17, 2016, 02:55:57 PM
gambling is really wrong if you are really playing gambling in a wrong way, but if you have your own strategy of gambling then you can really play it in a good way and then it will not be consider it as wrong.

Good  way that you mean that  you could able  to control yourself  on  getting  wrecked in the end  and  also you could able to resist  addictiveness on playing gambling . These games are  actually for entertainment purposes  but  if youre aims  are for making profits  then thats the time  it would  be  wrong.

That is so true, gambling is ok if it is played just for fun. If your motivation is for profit and you have no any idea about strategies and technique that are being practiced and live by professional gamblers, then better not even try it because you will surely get disappointed and get wricked. The reason is because of the house edge and you have no strategies to work it out in your favor.
2467  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: October 17, 2016, 02:50:46 PM
I heard a lot about trading and mostly it was about that trading is the best way to make your botcoins work on you. But I still didn't try to trade, I have a wish, just looking for something checked and save. I am not a professional as you can see. On this forum there are tans of information about trading and from this you can find which areas for trading more or less predictive.
Tradings are really unpredictable because you will never know what the price of the bitcoin will do in the future and not what it will do right after
your trade and that makes it not really easy.

It sure is unpredictable, but even then you can be sure to earn, simply don't panic and don't sell bitcoins early, wait for price to rise up again and you will earn

There are really many weak hands in trading - those weak hands are usually new in trading. Weak hand means that, when you buy some altcoins and it goes down abruptly, you will also immediately sell it because of fear that it will go lower even at the cost of having negative profit. But it is really ok to experience these once in a while because when you get good at it, you will trade to profit along the way.
2468  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do Girls also gamble? on: October 17, 2016, 12:13:19 PM
Girls were the best managers of finance all time. Also girls were found over every sectors, so its possible to see girls into gambling. One good thing is that girls stick to limits, so won't get much addicted.

Yeah you are correct,

Especially where girls are always sticking to the limit,
Yeah girls have more control over their
actions on everything than a man
do,.

That is why there are only a few girls who are addicted
on this kind of entertainment.

Right, I also believe that gambling is dominated by male. There are girls that are gambler but not as many compared to male. I don't know the real reason of it but that is how it goes. i am just amazed sometimes when some girls have more balls than men betting big amount of money and getting green in high rollers tab.
2469  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: October 17, 2016, 12:10:57 PM
Quitting gambling is not that easy if you are already addicted to it. Even you keep telling yourself to quit , stop i am sure that you will keep on gambling specially if you do not have other past time. The only solution for me to prevent gambling step by step is by finding another hobbies or past time that will make sure that will eat a lot of your time beside gambling. Or if you really cant quit gambling just gamble small amount just to have fun.

Yes i am with you that quitting gambling is not easy for those who are used to playing gambling games with their friends or peers in a casino.  but to those who are playing online and is not  addicted to gambling, they can easily stop gambling and even forget to play it when they have their time consumed by worthwhile activities.
That's true, if you are really addicted in gambling it is not easy for you to stay away in gambling as easy as that, because gambling is very serious thing if you get addicted. Because gambling is very entertaining for me, beginners are the once who are getting addicted if they cannot control themselves from betting.
As long as we enjoy gambling then there is no reason to quit it, we should enjoy it as it could give us some quality time having fun although we are spending, but when time comes that we are not in our mind anymore because we want to chase our loses maybe that is not a good sign anymore and we should automatically quit by all means.
Even if we are enjoying gambling, there are still reasons to quit. Gambling is not a healthy activity. All the time spent sitting in front of a computer without much activity. It will destroy your body. And you are also losing money so that is another negative effect.
That's true, Gambling is not a healthy lifestyle, and even in casino we will just get some sick with it, because some gamblers smoking everywhere in casino, so there is no healthy thing in gambling and we can lose money at the same time.

Aside from smoking, you also have less activities when you spent most of your time on the casino tables or on your desk gambling online. Hence, better to create that balance. If you really want to be a professional gambler, then set your daily schedule to play for 8 hours and have like 1-3 hours of physical workout.
2470  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: October 17, 2016, 12:08:17 PM
It's impossible to rich in gambling unless if you are buying ticket in local lottery that has millions of jackpot prizes.If you are just gamble in poker or any game with low winning chance you can not be rich unless if you are the owner of the gambling casino..

The chance that you will win on that is very small, lots of people bet on lottery... Aside from that you have to choose more numbers which makes the chance of winning smaller and if you win sometimes it's not only you, there are also others that win along with you to get a share... So it is still nearing impossible to get rich on lottery...  Smiley

I disagree that is impossible to be rich on lottery because even your not only the winner or more realistic 3 person wins on lottery you will have a big amount in share and it depends on the jackpot i heared one time 2 person won in a jackpot of about $20,000 a half of $10,000 or likely lets say $8,000 you will also called rich man . On gambling its definitely hard to become rich only few lucky gamblers who wins the jackpot.

But the "chance" to win on those is very small, imagine how many people bet in lottery every day, some even have more than 2 tickets and yet no one win in a day or even in a week, if you start to hope that you will win in lottery then that's bonkers, there's no assurance that you'll get rich there even if you use all your wealth to bet you will never know if you will win, expecting something from it is a false hope..  Smiley

Correct. You will have more chances of getting struck by a lightning than winning in lottery - that how the odds plays against you and anyone that buy lottery tickets. Of course, the reward is very high but there is very little to know assurance at all that you will win. If you will win in lottery, then you are a very lucky one.
Our chance in lottery is very low but if we are lucky we can win millions, I guess this is a good game t be addicted as we cannot experience win most of the time which makes us not addicted in gambling, for sure the amount that we are putting is just a small amount so we can afford that loses.
Haha yeah i totally agree you've more chance of getting struck by lightning 3 straight times than winning the lottery. Although it' a not impossible as it already made quite a number of people rich, the chances arebthat slim that you' re better off just saving the money for other more important expenses

I agree with you mate. Better save youor money for other important matters. There is also one thing, if you really want to gamble, be sure to play only to legitimate casino or government supervised lottery because those have some reasons why it is built - the proceeds are for charity works and not just go straight to some illefal casino owners.

Yeah, You have your point.

Rich gamblers rarely fall under
un-legitimate gambling den or casinos,
So actually it is too absurd to say that he needs to play
in a legitimate casino.

cause mostly, rich gamblers plays in Vegas wherein you can't
barely find a not legitimate casinos.

That is true. What I am saying is that, when you really want to gamble, better gamble to ligitimate casino or government supervise gambling that uses their proceeds to charitable works. That way, if you lose, it is not that hard because you know that a portion of your money is being spent to charitable works and at the same time you are enjoying gambling for a short period of time.
2471  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gambling makes you cry. on: October 17, 2016, 12:04:51 PM
That's definitely true, when a person is already addicted he will be having a hard time to control himself in gambling because he will just decide base on what he feels or he will just let his emotion take over the game and in that cases we normally lose in the end.
If we are beginner in gambling games, it is easy for us to get hooked with it because gambling is really entertaining in every part of the game, especially the excitement that gambling will gives to us. But once you already know how it works and you know how to handle yourself for sure you will never lose huge money here.

That is true, that as long as you know what you are doing, you will profit in gambling - this is how professional gamblers does. They are really playing most of the time in their lifetime because they chose it as a profession. In the process of long period of time playing, they learned many valuable things to mitigate risks and earn profit.
2472  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: October 17, 2016, 12:02:22 PM
I have noticed so many players are just gambling for the sake of profits only. But majority of them loses most of the games eventually as they are not smart players.

So how should we gamble in a smart way so that we do not get more frustrations due to continuous losses?

Don't be dumb and try to avoid luck based games. Most of the time all these dumb strategies don't work and you end up losing a lot of your money, better play poker or sport bets
Yeah, but most of gambling games are more on luck. We need to know what game will be fit to us for us to enjoy our game, so that even if we lose money it is just fine, as long as we enjoys our game.

Well, that is really what gambling should do to us in the first place - they give us entertainment. If we then abuse that and bet more than we should, then the problem occurs. Unless you are a professional gambler and all you do in your life is just gambling, then you are good to spend big amount of money because you know how to handle it.
2473  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: October 17, 2016, 12:00:27 PM
Gambling became wrong if you abuse yourself and attach so much on gambling but as long as you control yourself from being addicted to it ,its not wrong . Many sees gambling is wrong because first thing comes to their mind is losing money and addicting on gambling.
that is right that gambling is wrong if you are playing it wrongly, but if you manage an play gambling in a sensitive way then you can really enjoy gambling, and then gambling is not wrong for you,

Yeah,

As what I always said,
It will only be considered to be wrong in your side or part
when it does make your life miserable.

Miserable in a way where it is making bad effects
in your life, especially on financial standing,
and emotional handling.

That is correct. When gambling offers you relaxation and stress free for couple of minutes or hours, then gambling is not good because after all, gambling is designed to give entertainment to other people. As long as you are playing for entertainment and not for profit, then there is really nothing wrong with gambling in your part. But if you play for profit and risk an amount that you cannot afford to lose, then it will be really miserable.
2474  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: October 17, 2016, 11:57:05 AM
My advice is to get other hobbies,you also need to stop doing gambling daily. You must do it slowly, a smooth transition from addiction to non addiction, if you stop gambling out of a sudden you will enter in relapse mode and you do gamble over and over again.

In short, just take it slow. I really agree that you need to have some alternative things to do like new hobbies - it is like a glass of water, in order for new water to enter it, it needs to have emptied. Therefore, in gambling addiction, you will not get over it when you are not looking for diversions or other activities.
You got it on point dude. Stopping immediately will most likely leave you with withdrawals and the urge would be much stronger. So aside from doing thinga that would take up your attention, i think a slow gradual process would be a more efficient way

You can gamble with your friends and wager other thing instead of money, like wishes or secrets, so you will still have feeling of risk which is quite important for gambling. For example loser of gambling between friends might have to do some homework or some funny thing.

For me, there is much greater thrill when you gamble with money. The thrill of expecting to win big. But what really will eventually happen is that, you will lose against the casino because the latter is designed to win aside from entertainment. No casinos will be established if they have the very big risks of losing their bankroll.
2475  Economy / Gambling / Re: BETTING SITES TO AVOID on: October 17, 2016, 11:52:50 AM
Yes I agree.. you should accept that when you gamble some of the time you will lose. So that's why they created the word 'Lucky' Grin kidding aside though.

you will definitely lose eventually because of the house edge. Unless you are lucky enough and cashout immediately after winning big - where you don't give casino a chance to win back what they have lose from your winning bets. If you just bet randomly, then you will surely lose just like any other players in any online casinos out there  try to chat in the chatroom, many people have negative stats Smiley
2476  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: October 17, 2016, 11:50:26 AM
The easiest way and the safest way to make money out of gambling is via referrals. I don't think a method exists in gambling that would give you sure profit, thus, there's no easy way to make a profit by betting. The affiliate gives you 10% of the money that your referrals have lost in the website and if ever someone in your referrals deposits a large amount of money and loses all of them (which is very likely, btw), then you'll get 10% of that. Imagine having more and more referrals like this, then you surely will have a lot of profit out of gambling.
Well, maybe so we could make a profit, however, very difficult to persuade someone to gamble, especially if they are new to or do not like gambling, probably just tired are you gonna get. very difficult to find an easy way to gain an advantage in the game of gambling, but if you want to try, try sports betting game, because it is a gambling game that has the highest probability of winning

Gambling is really a big risk because your enemy (casino) has bigger advantage than you - the house edge. There are ways though to mitigate the risk and that is by creating many sessions, pre-planned bets, proper bankroll management, no emotions involve as much as possible - these are actually what the professional gamblers are doing.
2477  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit Gambling. on: October 17, 2016, 11:47:45 AM
It might not be an easy task to quit gambling, but you can lower it down by doing it less.
That way, even if you are losing in it, you will lose less than what you are currently losing, and chances of winning are still there.

One way of quitting gambling is not to over-alt the people behaviour. It is not easy for someone to change his habit that he has for over the years. So start slow by reducing his exposure to gambling, and from there setup a schedule whereby the gambling session reduces until he can exit out from it.

That is correct. It will be very easy for us to advise how to quit gambling to people who already been addicted to gambling. It is truly not easy for them to stop because of the fact that it is already a habit, an addiction, and their way of life. Taking it slow to quit gambling is one of the best way to start quitting and then finding other things to do that will serve as a diversion from gambling.
2478  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: October 17, 2016, 11:44:45 AM
Gambling can both fix and wreck your life. It all depends on your strategy.
Excessive gambling will surely wrecks ones life, if we gamble moderately it'll neither fix or wreck our lives. as far as i can tell gambling can't fix lives, it only wrecks. so gamble for fun not for money with lowest amount possible. Wink

Yeah right. However, if you're paying with real money just to have fun, there are other games out there that you can play for free and indeed more enjoying than gambling. I think there is really an urge to earn there when we gamble, not just for fun.

You know, when there is a money involve, it adds the thrill in gambling. However, just only play an amount that you can afford to lose because chances are, you will eventually lose. That is the hard fact - casino is designed not just for giving players entertainment but also it is designed to win, that is why there is this what we called house edge.
don't expect too much in gambling if you want to make money , it wouldn't work. just expect to get have fun and when you get money onn your winning it would give you double thrill. get fun and get money doubled. so you shouldn't expect your life could get fixed by gambling as it may just ruined your life in the end.

That is right. In gambling, when you really don't know what you are doing and just bet randomly, then there is a big chance that you will eventually lose because of the house edge advantage. Unless you really want to be a professional gambler and just playing all day every day in your life, then that is fine.
2479  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: October 17, 2016, 11:42:46 AM
IMO There is no smart or profitable way to gamble, it's just random and there is a good possibility to lose as a possibility to win "and actually lower with the house edge".. I think of gambling more of a fun rather than actual investment or a method to get actual profit.

gambling is a place of entertainment and as these all are games so if a person will have good experience in playing any games of these then he will be smart and those who will not spend all of his money at once then he will also be smart.
yeah you are right that gambling is the place of entertainment and people get a lot of fun and enjoyment you are right if you are expert in gambling then you can get a huge profit from gambling.

Actually its not all entertainment at all sometimes it will become frustation because when you lost in a row in one day of your capital funds then you will say in the air son of bitch. The house cheat me for that matter. Ha ha.

you will say that the site is rigged when you lose and when you win, the site is fair Cheesy Anyway, that is right that motivations of others to play is through there frustrations of past losses - it is somewhat chasing from previous losses and the turn out will be more losses along the way and the trend is never stopping..
2480  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: October 17, 2016, 11:39:22 AM
My advice is to get other hobbies,you also need to stop doing gambling daily. You must do it slowly, a smooth transition from addiction to non addiction, if you stop gambling out of a sudden you will enter in relapse mode and you do gamble over and over again.

In short, just take it slow. I really agree that you need to have some alternative things to do like new hobbies - it is like a glass of water, in order for new water to enter it, it needs to have emptied. Therefore, in gambling addiction, you will not get over it when you are not looking for diversions or other activities.
You got it on point dude. Stopping immediately will most likely leave you with withdrawals and the urge would be much stronger. So aside from doing thinga that would take up your attention, i think a slow gradual process would be a more efficient way

Could not agree more mate. slow and steady wins the race without much traction involve. It is like smoking addiction, it is advised to quit slowly than abruptly so that your body will get to adjust to it. In gambling addiction, there is really a habit that is formed and it will only be overcome once you quit and do some other things..
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