I do recall that one of the posts you put in some words of attribution for someone... and probably in that case, it would have been good to note it (or maybe say it in small type ... ).. whatever, it was kind of a joke or a way to dig in at someone in a strategic way... ..
oh yeah, that one... was more of a joke but turns out she was very annoyed at having her character defiled on a public site.... funny that. Yeah.. pretty funny if you are quoting some bear with bullish comments or even quoting a bull with bearish comments... or to say that such and such bear says that such and such bull is wonderful or the opposite.... and NOT really that big of a deal... whether you fixed it or NOT.. Probably, i would have fixed it... but then if someone is ordering me to fix something, then probably, i will be less inclined to fix it...  |
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Additional options to have the repo government BTC marketm treat, but the long-term damage to the deep pockets that anyone can use, but this is the first time in the wrong hands, and / or stealing money from the currency in the attack. : Deterioration Wikipedia. As long as you do not trust the market to buy foreign currency not lose .., on the other hand, it is certain, or GS .. sometimes .. can not even run out of money ... and the inevitable price.
what Wolfeen may have been using google translate. |
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~410 so good  Next sunday - same time ~700$ Remember my words! Just DO NOT edit or delete this post, and we will NOT need to remember, we can refer back. I hope you are correct with that prediction.. seems a bit too rosey to me, but not outside of the realm of reasonably possible. you seem to be alluding sometimes to my argument with nano brain....  there is nothing wrong with editing a post quickly after it was made if you have forgotten a detail.... the edit in question was made before the market changed at all, in fact, within 3 minutes. I do not edit my old posts, certainly not to meet the market. why the hell would I? I wasn't referring to any specific incident, and within a reasonably short period such as an hour or NO one has yet responded to your post, then surely it is reasonable to edit the post or even delete it. Otherwise, I am of the personal opinion that it is better to just leave old posts as they were - grammar errors or inaccuracies or whatever... I do recall that one of the posts you put in some words of attribution for someone... and probably in that case, it would have been good to note it (or maybe say it in small type ... ).. whatever, it was kind of a joke or a way to dig in at someone in a strategic way... .. |
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There is only one flow it can take in the Bitcoin economy and that is from the sucker to the scammer.
The best definition of free market capitalism, ever. When the sc.ammers are in power the sucker lose more, people complain about the private companies fixing markets but the FED is fixing the market rate and the USD I'm more worried about the potential for stolen coins and/or government repossessed coins being used by bad actors to manipulate the BTC market... b/c those coins have NOT been paid for, but they can be used with someone with deep pockets to operate at a loss for a very long time but to undermine bitcoin.. if in the wrong hands. On the other hand, if coins are being acquired at market rates, then even if the whale or govt is operating at a loss.. sooner or later they will run out of coins.. so it seems... so inevitably, the price has got to go up.. as long as we do NOT lose confidence in the meantime. |
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~410 so good Next sunday - same time ~700$ Remember my words! Just DO NOT edit or delete this post, and we will NOT need to remember, we can refer back. I hope you are correct with that prediction.. seems a bit too rosey to me, but not outside of the realm of reasonably possible. |
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Today something dawned on me:
We can actually start seeing signs of "sellers' exhaustion" in volume and price action, but what is fascinating is that, different from the previous cycle, there is no sign yet of "buyers' appetite" re-appearing correspondingly.
Despair Don't think so. "Apathy" is more like it, imo. I think a lot of people are getting tired of the bullshit... and probably thinking that BTC prices should be more in line with the fundamentals.. in the $750-$850 arena. $750 valuation based on what? Ya based on what? For me everything seems to be pointed toward $9.99 Based on the fact he's a permanent uber-bull troll! Yeah.. get your unsubstantiated digs in - and certainly, you are out of context, here, which seems to be your M.O. to spout out a bunch of shit, out of context. Don't care to carry on a conversation with a delusional extremist. I can't think of an opposing bear that would balance your strange and frankly outlandish claims. The nearest reverse mirror image might be Igorr. But igorr backs his claims up with some TA that does justify his point of view. You just talk rubbish, over, and over again, a constant stream of verbal diarrhea. The reason? I can only hazard a guess. So maybe you will put me on ignore, then? You seem to be resorting to name calling, again, without any real basis. I sense that it is much easier for you to stick with easy terms and conclusions rather than responding to logic or reason or good faith attempts at communicating substance. I cannot summarize what i do in this thread as succinctly as your conclusory assertions, but sometimes I am responding to other posts, such as yours, sometimes I am talking about my own personal decision-making process when trying to decide whether to buy or sell BTC and sometimes I am trying to predict the direction of BTC prices. Generally, I am NOT trying to persuade others whether they should buy or sell or hodl, even though sometimes those words are in my vocabulary and i do use them from time to time to asssert a sort of prediction of the best strategy at the moment. I have no problem with bearish predictions, except to the extent that there may be some disinformation contained within some of the bearish posts (sometimes the disinformation seems purposeful and other times such disinformation may NOT have been purposefully propagated), especially in these last several months the bearish predictions seem to have been correct b/c there has been a downward price trend, as we all know. Really few of us can really predict the direction of BTC prices, yet some of us just do our best to attempt to decide what to do personally to account for the risk within our own investment priorities. This thread can be helpful to get current and historical information - if one can get passed some of the FUD information - which generally seems a lot more prevalent on the long-term bear-side of the camp. Short-term bear may be a different story about making a prediction that may be based on actual facts to the best that they can be known. Regarding perma-bull name. I am generally bullish in the long term, but NOT perma-anything. If there are facts that get me to change my perspectives about bitcoin, then I will reconsider my investment and my investment strategies. I really don't know what to say to you. Really you need to re-read all your posts. You miss quote people, you only read what you want to read, you troll the same stuff over and over, you make false accusations. You say things like " You seem to be resorting to name calling, again," after i responded to your "spout out a bunch of shit". I tried to offer the olive branch the other day. But I decided today there is no point with people like you. You have your mind set and don't care what others think. You are really are either a troll or worse yet you believe the drivel that comes out of your cake hole, end of story. Yes, it is difficult to have a conversation with someone resorting to name calling. Exhibit A above. I hope you will improve, but I realize that hoping may be all that I am able to do in these kinds of circumstances b/c I do NOT expect to be able to positively influence your interaction style or anything like that.. at least, NOT in the short-term when you are acting so self-righteous. |
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Ding ding ding last days low priiiiiiiiiice......last offer to buy cheaaaaaaaap!
It's likely to get pushed down at least one more time today.. maybe we will see $360? |
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Whoever is operating the Death Bot is paying a lot of money to buy high and sell low. Why? One possible reason is to test market price and order resiliency. This person likely has a massive amount of cash and coins to control and the Death Bot is merely an operating expense.
This is very different than Willy. It's shown up on multiple exchanges, so it's probably not an exchange operator. That's a good sign, but it means the market is getting more sophisticated. Smart people are taking money from dumb people and I'm getting the sinking feeling that I'm one of the dumb people.
I don't have enough information to trade, so I'm not going to.
Personally, I do NOT think that this is a matter of being smart or dumb. When someone is using their capital to manipulate, you cannot predict that when they do it in unpredictable ways. Surely it is easier to predict if there a bunch of them and they may be having more trouble to coordinate. You are NOT the first one to point out that sometimes these bots or whales are purposefully running at a loss, but they can only sustain it for so long - but generally, they can sustain it much longer than the tolerance of a bunch of us regular people put together. |
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Today something dawned on me:
We can actually start seeing signs of "sellers' exhaustion" in volume and price action, but what is fascinating is that, different from the previous cycle, there is no sign yet of "buyers' appetite" re-appearing correspondingly.
Despair Don't think so. "Apathy" is more like it, imo. I think a lot of people are getting tired of the bullshit... and probably thinking that BTC prices should be more in line with the fundamentals.. in the $750-$850 arena. $750 valuation based on what? Ya based on what? For me everything seems to be pointed toward $9.99 I already addressed this value basis question in another post. But if you think the current value is $9.99-ish, then you seem to really be living in a fantasy land world, and possibly, you do NOT understand various bitcoin fundamentals. I do NOT claim to be nearly an expert on everything about bitcoin, but there is a lot of upward potential that may or may not be realized.. depending upon how world events play out. I am betting on BTC prices going up, though, and I believe the odds are pretty good... that we are going to be seeing upward price momentum rather than downward momentum - even though it is possible that we will continue to see downward price momentum for a couple of more months... Does your valuation take into account the fact that Bitcoin mining as we know it will collapse very soon? NO it does NOT. I did NOT know that interesting "fact." Can you explain when and how and why? And, what are your sources for your information - b/c I have NOT seen any news about this happening. A TH/s miner pretty well uses up an entire 15A circuit breaker in your home. How many spare 15A breakers do you think there are in a home with a 100A service? Yes, it is already known that mining is becoming more power intense and seems to be moving towards the bigger operations and likely towards the more wealthy performing the mining. That is a known progression that some people (including miners) do NOT like, but that "fact" does NOT signify that mining will collapse any time soon - and if this is foreseen to be a longer-term problem, then likely actions are going to take place to address the matter so that this issue does NOT cause a collapse of bitcoin. So, in essence, your post is full of disinformation by misstating facts and then exaggerating the significance of any facts that are contained therein. |
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Today something dawned on me:
We can actually start seeing signs of "sellers' exhaustion" in volume and price action, but what is fascinating is that, different from the previous cycle, there is no sign yet of "buyers' appetite" re-appearing correspondingly.
Despair Don't think so. "Apathy" is more like it, imo. I think a lot of people are getting tired of the bullshit... and probably thinking that BTC prices should be more in line with the fundamentals.. in the $750-$850 arena. $750 valuation based on what? Ya based on what? For me everything seems to be pointed toward $9.99 Based on the fact he's a permanent uber-bull troll! Yeah.. get your unsubstantiated digs in - and certainly, you are out of context, here, which seems to be your M.O. to spout out a bunch of shit, out of context. Don't care to carry on a conversation with a delusional extremist. I can't think of an opposing bear that would balance your strange and frankly outlandish claims. The nearest reverse mirror image might be Igorr. But igorr backs his claims up with some TA that does justify his point of view. You just talk rubbish, over, and over again, a constant stream of verbal diarrhea. The reason? I can only hazard a guess. So maybe you will put me on ignore, then? You seem to be resorting to name calling, again, without any real basis. I sense that it is much easier for you to stick with easy terms and conclusions rather than responding to logic or reason or good faith attempts at communicating substance. I cannot summarize what i do in this thread as succinctly as your conclusory assertions, but sometimes I am responding to other posts, such as yours, sometimes I am talking about my own personal decision-making process when trying to decide whether to buy or sell BTC and sometimes I am trying to predict the direction of BTC prices. Generally, I am NOT trying to persuade others whether they should buy or sell or hodl, even though sometimes those words are in my vocabulary and i do use them from time to time to asssert a sort of prediction of the best strategy at the moment. I have no problem with bearish predictions, except to the extent that there may be some disinformation contained within some of the bearish posts (sometimes the disinformation seems purposeful and other times such disinformation may NOT have been purposefully propagated), especially in these last several months the bearish predictions seem to have been correct b/c there has been a downward price trend, as we all know. Really few of us can really predict the direction of BTC prices, yet some of us just do our best to attempt to decide what to do personally to account for the risk within our own investment priorities. This thread can be helpful to get current and historical information - if one can get passed some of the FUD information - which generally seems a lot more prevalent on the long-term bear-side of the camp. Short-term bear may be a different story about making a prediction that may be based on actual facts to the best that they can be known. Regarding perma-bull name. I am generally bullish in the long term, but NOT perma-anything. If there are facts that get me to change my perspectives about bitcoin, then I will reconsider my investment and my investment strategies. |
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Today something dawned on me:
We can actually start seeing signs of "sellers' exhaustion" in volume and price action, but what is fascinating is that, different from the previous cycle, there is no sign yet of "buyers' appetite" re-appearing correspondingly.
Despair Don't think so. "Apathy" is more like it, imo. I think a lot of people are getting tired of the bullshit... and probably thinking that BTC prices should be more in line with the fundamentals.. in the $750-$850 arena. $750 valuation based on what? Ya based on what? For me everything seems to be pointed toward $9.99 I already addressed this value basis question in another post. But if you think the current value is $9.99-ish, then you seem to really be living in a fantasy land world, and possibly, you do NOT understand various bitcoin fundamentals. I do NOT claim to be nearly an expert on everything about bitcoin, but there is a lot of upward potential that may or may not be realized.. depending upon how world events play out. I am betting on BTC prices going up, though, and I believe the odds are pretty good... that we are going to be seeing upward price momentum rather than downward momentum - even though it is possible that we will continue to see downward price momentum for a couple of more months... Does your valuation take into account the fact that Bitcoin mining as we know it will collapse very soon? NO it does NOT. I did NOT know that interesting "fact." Can you explain when and how and why? And, what are your sources for your information - b/c I have NOT seen any news about this happening. |
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How awesome it would be if this was a successful retest of $340.
I thought that you said that you were back to being all in BTC? Did you get into Fiat again at some time? I specifically said I was NOT all in, just cautiously optimistic. There was a four hour cross on the MACD that had the potential of causing a pop, and I wanted to be in a position to SELL that spike. The Next rally is extremely unlikely to start immediately after the lowest point is hit. There will be months of consolidation. Surely, it is possible that I missed some of your posts, so thanks for the clarification. |
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Today something dawned on me:
We can actually start seeing signs of "sellers' exhaustion" in volume and price action, but what is fascinating is that, different from the previous cycle, there is no sign yet of "buyers' appetite" re-appearing correspondingly.
Despair Don't think so. "Apathy" is more like it, imo. I think a lot of people are getting tired of the bullshit... and probably thinking that BTC prices should be more in line with the fundamentals.. in the $750-$850 arena. $750 valuation based on what? Ya based on what? For me everything seems to be pointed toward $9.99 Based on the fact he's a permanent uber-bull troll! Yeah.. get your unsubstantiated digs in - and certainly, you are out of context, here, which seems to be your M.O. to spout out a bunch of shit, out of context. |
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Today something dawned on me:
We can actually start seeing signs of "sellers' exhaustion" in volume and price action, but what is fascinating is that, different from the previous cycle, there is no sign yet of "buyers' appetite" re-appearing correspondingly.
Despair Don't think so. "Apathy" is more like it, imo. I think a lot of people are getting tired of the bullshit... and probably thinking that BTC prices should be more in line with the fundamentals.. in the $750-$850 arena. $750 valuation based on what? Ya based on what? For me everything seems to be pointed toward $9.99 I already addressed this value basis question in another post. But if you think the current value is $9.99-ish, then you seem to really be living in a fantasy land world, and possibly, you do NOT understand various bitcoin fundamentals. I do NOT claim to be nearly an expert on everything about bitcoin, but there is a lot of upward potential that may or may not be realized.. depending upon how world events play out. I am betting on BTC prices going up, though, and I believe the odds are pretty good... that we are going to be seeing upward price momentum rather than downward momentum - even though it is possible that we will continue to see downward price momentum for a couple of more months... |
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Today something dawned on me:
We can actually start seeing signs of "sellers' exhaustion" in volume and price action, but what is fascinating is that, different from the previous cycle, there is no sign yet of "buyers' appetite" re-appearing correspondingly.
Despair Don't think so. "Apathy" is more like it, imo. I think a lot of people are getting tired of the bullshit... and probably thinking that BTC prices should be more in line with the fundamentals.. in the $750-$850 arena. $750 valuation based on what? Based on the totality of the circumstances... included but not limited to payment system, storage of value, public ledger and decentralized innovative protocol that is expanding its reach globally.. and a market cap of only about 5 billion - even though much lesser important innovations have much larger market caps... |
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pretty sure it is Sunday or it just finished an hr ago in China but you know what's great on sunday ... BACON
Bacon is great on any day. Making me hungry just thinking about it. |
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Sellers spin it up and Buyers spin it down...an idiot is someone who doesn't spin it at all.
You have a perverted sense of the world. Maybe you have only engaged in internet relationships? Interesting...so what exactly are you trying to sell me here? He's spinning down. He must be trying to buy you something. That's another way of putting it, but Aminorex, you may be too abstract for pjviitas - since s/he seems to have a more straight forward view of the way the world operates. |
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Today something dawned on me:
We can actually start seeing signs of "sellers' exhaustion" in volume and price action, but what is fascinating is that, different from the previous cycle, there is no sign yet of "buyers' appetite" re-appearing correspondingly.
Despair Don't think so. "Apathy" is more like it, imo. I think a lot of people are getting tired of the bullshit... and probably thinking that BTC prices should be more in line with the fundamentals.. in the $750-$850 arena. |
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How awesome it would be if this was a successful retest of $340.
I thought that you said that you were back to being all in BTC? Did you get into Fiat again at some time? |
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Also wasnt there some defiant statements from Huobi about NOT complying with china regulations or that trades are going to take place underground if china keeps pushing for banning or too many restrictions on bitcoin, and that seems to just drag things out more than resolving matters.
As far as I can tell with Google Translate, the note now on their site (dated 2014-04-11 16:45:16 local time) says that (1) they believe that the aim of the December decree was to prevent abuses like money laundering, and they are totally willing to cooperate with the government on that, they are already doing a lot in that area with customer identification, reporting large movements etc; and that if they are forced to shut down, those abuses will move overseas where they will be harder to police; (2) they have received closure notices from two banks (ICBC and Merchants Bank), they understand that each bank is interpreting the PBoC order differently, with different dates, so perhaps some of the banks may continue to work with them. I think these views are consistent with the theory that the new "PBoC circular" did not originate with PBoC (which does not seem worried about those "virtual stamps" anymore). Bitcoin is no longer a threat to the monetary policy, which is the PBoC's main concern. But is still a potential tool for money laundering, bribing, subversion, etc.. IIRC, the December decree was said to be the joint decision of five ministeries/agencies, of which PBoC was just one. I think that the March decision, to tighten the December decree by closing the bank accounts, came from the law enforcement and national security agencies, and was issued through the PBoC only because the banks are subordinated to the PBoC. Also, point (2) above may explain why the price bounced back to the level of Apr/09. The previous note of Apr/10, about the ICBC closure, implied that all bank accounts would be closed, with no negotiation possible, thus confirming the Caixin article. This note restores the uncertainty of last Friday by suggesting that some bank accounts may remain open. The timing of the last drop (07:00 am local time) and the bounceback (11:00 am local time) seems consistent with the timing of the note plus insider trading. Your interpretation seems to make quite a bit of sense to outline what seems to be the current situation, which really does seem to come back to the notion that at least on Huobi, they are going to continue to attempt to operate, and they seem to have a variety of options to continue to operate - however, at any moment their funding avenues could dry up. Then we get to the next FUD and speculated price drop, again (like ground hog's day) that China is banning bitcoin. These kinds of uncertainties could drag out for several months... and in the meantime the bitcoin network will continue to expand.. and maybe by the time bitcoin is really and truly banned in china, it will be too late - or some other change in bitcoin land may evolve in order that such news is NOT so detrimental to BTC prices? |
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