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29461  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 11, 2014, 04:20:16 AM
...patronizing statements ...

pots and kettles

I suppose you do NOT want to be too direct? 

So, accordingly, I do NOT understand  the significance  of your statement or your observation.
29462  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 11, 2014, 04:14:26 AM
at least for a few minutes, that guy who dumped at $340's got to be feeling pretty stupid.

Few minutes?  If he does not buy back ASAP he could feel stupid for a lifetime!  Wink

Doubt it. Final bottoms don't get such weak bounces.

I know that we are all speculating here... but When do you think the $340 will be retested?   in the next several hours? or over the weekend or sometime later?  It seems if they are going to retest, it is better to do it while there is some momentum.. sooner rather than later.
29463  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 11, 2014, 04:07:02 AM
at least for a few minutes, that guy who dumped at $340's got to be feeling pretty stupid.

Few minutes?  If he does not buy back ASAP he could feel stupid for a lifetime!  Wink

That is assuming that these guys are dumping to make money in the short-term.  Some of these dumps are probably NOT directly profitable... and those costs of unprofitable dumps may likely be built in.. to get bigger rewards in other ways and on other days.
29464  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 11, 2014, 04:03:38 AM
I love those guys who told me to fuck off. What am I doing now? fucking off. I'm not buying. You pissed off one of the guys who could save you. (not really. I'd have to care)

Should I start buying yet?

Nah. I can wait.

Will I miss the bottom? Prolly. I have so much cash I don't have to care. Some trader smarter than me will catch it and "save" Bitcoin without even meaning to. The decentral bankers of Bitcoin: The bad ones pay the good ones and the good ones reduce volatility. Clearly we need more good ones and that's what I'm learning to be.


OK... GOOD bye....

 Maybe you will buy back in at $700?  Losing out may come when a guy get's too greedy...

Losing out at cheap coins may come when you are impatient. The only thing I think I'm missing out on now is the opportunity to punish the optimistic. From an ROI perspective, it doesn't matter how many coins you buy or at what price. It only matters that you get the direction of price travel right and the amount of movement.

Run along, now. Daddy's got work to do.

I was fairly impressed with the seeming self-restraint of your post, until I arrived at the last line. 

You could NOT resist, and for some strange reasons (possibly only known to yourself - although you may NOT be able to control yourself), you had to throw in some patronizing comment. 

A Funny comment for highschool aged socializing, but does NOT seem to be a comment among mature and/or properly groomed adults.

Lighten up, Man. You gotta know I do it to bug you. We're all learning here.

Just b/c I do NOT want to behave as if I were still in high school does NOT mean that I am NOT lightened up.

If you feel that you need to throw out patronizing statements in order to have fun with others, then something seems to be wrong with your psycho/social well-being? 

Do you talk like that to people you meet in person also? 

Even though the internet is NOT in-person, these are people on the other end of the keyboard... at least most of us... there may be a few bots.. like shroomskit seems kind of like a bot - a bird-bot. or a dog-bot.


29465  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 11, 2014, 03:44:45 AM
Fuck, im tired of this downtrend

we need something new! perhaps an uptrend Roll Eyes

I am thinking that Monday or Tuesday or sometime soon thereafter the uptrend may possibly begin.   
29466  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 11, 2014, 03:41:04 AM
I love those guys who told me to fuck off. What am I doing now? fucking off. I'm not buying. You pissed off one of the guys who could save you. (not really. I'd have to care)

Should I start buying yet?

Nah. I can wait.

Will I miss the bottom? Prolly. I have so much cash I don't have to care. Some trader smarter than me will catch it and "save" Bitcoin without even meaning to. The decentral bankers of Bitcoin: The bad ones pay the good ones and the good ones reduce volatility. Clearly we need more good ones and that's what I'm learning to be.


OK... GOOD bye....

 Maybe you will buy back in at $700?  Losing out may come when a guy get's too greedy...

Losing out at cheap coins may come when you are impatient. The only thing I think I'm missing out on now is the opportunity to punish the optimistic. From an ROI perspective, it doesn't matter how many coins you buy or at what price. It only matters that you get the direction of price travel right and the amount of movement.

Run along, now. Daddy's got work to do.

I was fairly impressed with the seeming self-restraint of your post, until I arrived at the last line. 

You could NOT resist, and for some strange reasons (possibly only known to yourself - although you may NOT be able to control yourself), you had to throw in some patronizing comment. 

A Funny comment for highschool aged socializing, but does NOT seem to be a comment among mature and/or properly groomed adults.




29467  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 11, 2014, 03:12:28 AM
I think $339.8 was the bottom. Whats ya'lls thoughts?

not even close, this gonna get fugly me thinks

I kept thinking that the battle was going to be continued this weekend b/c fiat is usually thin on the weekends on the exchanges and BTC rich whales take opportunities to dump..

Accordingly maybe monday or tuesday we may get a reversal?
29468  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 11, 2014, 02:56:34 AM
I love those guys who told me to fuck off. What am I doing now? fucking off. I'm not buying. You pissed off one of the guys who could save you. (not really. I'd have to care)

Should I start buying yet?

Nah. I can wait.

Will I miss the bottom? Prolly. I have so much cash I don't have to care. Some trader smarter than me will catch it and "save" Bitcoin without even meaning to. The decentral bankers of Bitcoin: The bad ones pay the good ones and the good ones reduce volatility. Clearly we need more good ones and that's what I'm learning to be.


OK... GOOD bye....

 Maybe you will buy back in at $700?  Losing out may come when a guy get's too greedy...
29469  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2014, 09:38:23 PM
you are sooo full of shit! =) ^i'll sell you as many as you want@ $389!

I doubt you have BTC100 considering your posting history, but just in case I'm mistaken, send as many as you like here and PM your wire info. Price is the Bitstamp last trade for each of the transfers.


cash talks shit walks!!! =) it's me fucker, i'm calling you out on your bullshit(->just like the $700 BTC you re-nigged on)

Wink


SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!


Yeah.. what if each person wants to do the deal.  $389 for 100 BTC? 

I would NOT want to deal with someone like BBmodBB.  He seems pretty shady...    But, if I can be assured that my deal is going to be honored, then I have NO problem dealing with anyone... even if they were to call me names... ...   as long as they have what I want, and the deal goes through without major drama.

So in that regard, I figure out how to send my $38,900, and I want him to give me the 100BTC.  It almost seems necessary to involve a third party in these circumstances.. I certainly would NOT want to meet in person... when someone is acting like a jerk.. unless maybe there is some assurances.... or do you have a mechanism to hold these in escrow... ?
29470  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2014, 09:24:11 PM
your first prediction of flash crash to 400 was right but your second prediction on the reversal was and is wrong, you have been calling a reversal from 550 all the way down to $400, sadly we broke that 400.

now there is 2 scary facts, China is really closing accounts on the 15th of April and this is confirmed, now Australia will be closing all Bitcoin business related accounts on the 2nd of may; now  it is unclear for me how there is a chance of a reversal !! till then, I don't know if we reached the bottom yet...

My approach to predictions: If I make a 50/50 prediction, I aim to be "right" exactly 50% of the time. If I make 70/30 (that was perhaps my feeling after the Feb-25 crash) I still need to be "wrong" every third time, otherwise I am playing too safe. If you don't understand this, better not listen to me at all.

Rational investors discount the future to the present, and all information commonly available is already priced in. Now, Bitcoin is very far from an efficient market, and therefore there is a mispricing going on. I am moving funds to exchange if nothing else helps to correct/profit from the situation. I think this is the biggest reason why the reversal/recovery is sluggish: whales like me are scared as hell to send the million$ back to exchanges, no matter if they were originally earned by selling bitcoins or if it is new money. It is the shadow of Gox again.

Please somebody sell me bitcoins at $389, off-exchange, BTC100 minimum. Please.


So you seem to be describing my theory, as well.  That the exchanges push BTC prices down b/c big cats (or whales) are NOT storing their fiat there.... for exactly the GOX fears you mentioned.  Accordingly, the exchanges are disproportionately BTC laden and BTC holder's ability to push down prices by selling lots of BTC.

Are you also saying that you do NOT have any avenues to buy large quantity of BTC off of the exchanges?   

I suspect that some whales are finding ways to transact directly from time to time, and accordingly, they are using the exchange price as their price guideline for such large transactions.  Some of the work on decentralized exchanges will hopefully solve some of these issues, but as soon as we begin to touch fiat, then we are getting back to some kind of bank(s) involvement.


29471  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2014, 02:07:56 PM
Well, one more time, it really looks like its over. I HODL but lets see how this one works out. I almost halved all my savings in just a few weeks, buying @700  Shocked

You can also buy some more, no? and then your average BTC buy price will drop.

NOT always practical for everyone, but a possibility for you?
29472  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2014, 09:29:51 AM
Who knows its a mystery at this point, I beleive the oral communication part was between Huobi and their bank though not their bank and pboc?

For some strange reason, I tend to intimate the bold letters above with sex... it might just be that I've a long time to get laid.  Kiss Grin

Yeah... if we could get some decent choo choo mf... then decent appreciation of our BTC holdings, then can use some of those proceeds for recreating..... which helps to have some free time and a little extra cash.. and make recreating easier.
29473  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2014, 08:50:36 AM
WARNING!!!

Legit TA follows:



Double bottom formed at $400

CCMF!!!!1

There seems to be problems with that TA. 

The double bottom may be forming but it is NOT formed in the chart.  IN that regard, I can see that the double bottom is on its way, and it appears to be a nice one, but at the moment, at best it is only  a 1 1/4 bottom.

29474  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2014, 08:46:11 AM
What's this, the 'rebound'?  Cheesy

I ran out of money in my bank account, and new money is not due to arrive in my account until Friday... so I am kind of lighter on the BTC buying than I would have liked.  Fuck.
29475  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2014, 08:05:39 AM
Wall is going DOWN.

300's here we come.

Bears rejoice, our time has come !

Really? What are you people gonna do? Buy tons of Bitcoins at 380 or sit on the forum crying all day how we will go down because you want cheap coins at 280?
I think i know.

I pretty much havent changed my position for quite a while. Until we see maximum pain, i think it'll continue to tumble.

This market is hell-bent on shaking out the bagholders and lottery-ticket types. 275-350 would do the trick, imo. Then, i'll turn bullish when i see some major volume buying.

Huh? You just said your time has come but now you suddenly don't want to buy because there are cheap coins at 275.
Who would've guessed. Oh wait, i did, 10 minutes ago.

Um, you're lost or high.

Say hello to the other idiots on my ignore list. Buh bye.

Aww, poor bulls on the rag. Cant handle that they were WRONG hehe !!

You should be honored to be on his ignore list.  He just wants to spew non-sense all day, and as soon as anyone challenges it or maybe causes him/her/it to think beyond some superficial slogan, ignored you become.
29476  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2014, 07:56:57 AM
So does that make sense to you, or do you want to grill me some more to attempt to figure our whether I am pulling your leg.. or not following a sound practice or you want to criticize some thing that I am doing or to suggest that I am either lying to myself or incompetent or some negative motives or you want to try to suggest some other investment strategy or you are engaging in Monday morning quarter-backing?

In any event, hopefully, I have clarified sufficiently for you to understand my earlier statement(s).

By the way, What's your story?   Do you have some personal investment details that you can share (sort of a quid pro quo)?  Surely people have different investment approaches, depending upon when they got in, their risk profile, their other investments and maybe even depending on their reasons for getting in.  Part of my original motivation remains my current motivation and that is to diversify or hedge my dollar investments.  I feel that I have way too much of my total investments in the dollar.

I grilled you some, so I suppose I could give you a little back: I had a decent amount of bitcoin that I bought for an average of $5, held straight through the first bubble. I sold at $200 originally, then when I saw all the buying pressure at $266 bought back in, and started selling all the way up in small but increasing amounts once we hit about 400 (started too early, for sure). I sold everything leftover that I was willing to sell (which was still a good chunk of it) at a little over 1000 based on some sentiment indicators: my friend who never gave a shit about bitcoin suddenly asked if he should buy (I told him no, of course), I read a bitcoin market analyst who a lot of people listen to (you can see some of his analysis being regurgitated by people on this forum) call a 3300 top, and because I noticed that buying pressure subsided substantially after 1000. If you look back, I was dropping warning hints that maybe people shouldn't be so overzealous a little ways after we broke 1000. After the initial double top and drop, I was told I was just lucky, which, who knows? That could very well be the case.


Thanks for sharing some of your personal circumstances.  Of course there is some luck, but also, there are a lot of advantages to being actively into something for a while in order to know whether to invest or not or how much to invest.  If I had known you in November 2013, I may or may NOT have adjusted my strategy... Sometimes it does help to have consultation from someone who has some experience. 

More or less, I had $30,000 to invest in November 2013, and I chose to begin investing with $1,500.. and to spread the remainder of the $30K over 6 months... that was my strategy based on what little I had studied into bitcoin for about 3 weeks before I started investing.  There were some timing issues b/c if I had heard earlier or later, my strategy would have been adjusted somewhat.  It's been an interesting ride for me, and surely it is NOT even close to being over.

29477  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2014, 07:45:24 AM
I BEGGED you assholes to dump on the dead cat bounce and buy back when $400 was retested. You could have increased your BTC holdings without spending an extra dime.



Says the asshole who was insulting other people's mums when everybody with half brain could saw it's going below 600$.

Fuck off you moron, don't play the smart arse game here..

Is he not allowed to switch gears ?

He's been very consistent since he turned short-term bear, he hasnt flip-flopped.

He's been mostly an ass... even though, he may have had a few posts that contained some civility and common courtesy.  

lol the bullcult is hilarious, you devour anyone who breaks rank. Kind of like joining the mafia.



There is NO such thing as a cult or group think...

Just everyone seemed to reach a similar conclusion regarding the tone of BJA's post....

And, BJA is far from devoured (or a victim).  He is a product of his own making by dishing out insults, he causes others to treat him similarly or maybe even worse.  I am fairly certain that he is going to jump back in with some of his arrogance... and  possibly even losing sight that he causes his own negative energy - whether there is such a thing as carma or not..

It is NIce of you, TeeBone, to defend him, though.   Wink

29478  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2014, 07:28:38 AM
The number of personal insults in speculation subforums is at ATH. Is it bearish of bullish?



Fuck off you asshole!!!!!!




H hehe hehe ha... just kidding. 


It's called volatility.
29479  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2014, 07:20:55 AM
I BEGGED you assholes to dump on the dead cat bounce and buy back when $400 was retested. You could have increased your BTC holdings without spending an extra dime.



Says the asshole who was insulting other people's mums when everybody with half brain could saw it's going below 600$.

Fuck off you moron, don't play the smart arse game here..

Is he not allowed to switch gears ?

He's been very consistent since he turned short-term bear, he hasnt flip-flopped.

He's been mostly an ass... even though, he may have had a few posts that contained some civility and common courtesy. 
29480  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2014, 07:17:26 AM
I BEGGED you assholes to dump on the dead cat bounce and buy back when $400 was retested. You could have increased your BTC holdings without spending an extra dime.




YEAH.... right.. .NOW you are calling names and acting self-righteous...  You can really be a turd.. sometimes..  ... while you are shitting your pants a day ago... ..

This current situation was hardly very probable in the minds of many of us, as you know different people gave their probabilities, and you even succumbed to describing this scenario as a long shot.
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