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29541  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Antminer s7 setup question on: July 04, 2016, 10:27:36 PM
Its just its not me who paying for it

Have one question
While you mining will you get a daily return
As said in the profit calculator
Or I have to wait to find a block

okay.   

mining solo your chance of getting a block is around 2200 to 1 each day with an s-7  and the odds will most likely get worse.


mining with a pool  you earn a little  piece every block the pool makes.

depending on the pool  you could let the coins sit and grow then move them when they get big.

at todays odds  an s-7 earns close to 0.011 btc or $7.40 usd a day.

since your power is free  I would suggest if you can get a good deal go for one s-7 and find a good psu.

if you want a good psu read this and ask me any questions you have about getting this setup.


 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1373092.0
29542  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Four days to the halving. Who's giving up on mining? on: July 04, 2016, 10:17:51 PM
Four days to go.  For many machines, ROI now becomes negative. Who's out?

No one will quit  for the first adjustment after.

They will hope and pray for a price increase.


But if price is 650 for the next 30 days  a lot will quit.
29543  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: USA Import Duty on S9s? on: July 04, 2016, 10:13:20 PM

2 units = greater then 2500 usd = pay the man.

plenty of info on this I will find thread link.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1493601.msg15325563#msg15325563


I paid 0 for 2 from ups they missed me on batch 1
I paid 89 usd for 2 from ups they found me on batch 2

I paid 0 for 1 from ups I was under 2k on batch 4

Reading that thread next.  Thanks for the information.  

Wish I could have paid the man, but DHL doesn't let them load the packages on the truck until payment has been made.

most of the money is going to dhl  not the feds.  every company  charges a connivence fee  for handling the tax.

I believe the tax is .3 percent  so a 2000 dollar miner  taxes are 6 dollars rest are fees from the shipper in your case dhl.

2 units at 4000 k tax = 12 bucks rest are fees you paid  DHL  for handling the paperwork and  laying the 12 bucks out to the feds.
  Not that I mind the fees/tax   but I read 20 to 30 pages of fed rules and I do have an accounting degree.

rate looks like .3%
the shipping company can charge you a fee for handling the paperwork.

2000 to 2500 is a gray area for tax.

over 2500 is taxable.  so right now two of these will be taxed and a fee added by fedex ,ups or dhl

and on the strictest interpolation of all the rules I read  this gear could be considered a commercial product for business  meaning 250 and up is when taxes start.



Ups lets you write  a check to the driver  which is what I did last time.
29544  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 1% fee solo mining USA/DE servers 184 blocks solved! on: July 04, 2016, 08:06:30 PM
I'm renting and pointing 5PH here for a short period (1 hour).
I also pointed my own miners, excluding Ant S9 (Kano.is) here.
Good Luck!!!
No luck this time  Undecided

I will take a shot on it for the fourth of July.  Waiting for coins to clear.
May the founding fathers be on your side.  Smiley

thanks
 I will fire  around 2ph in a bit.

http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje
29545  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 1% fee solo mining USA/DE servers 184 blocks solved! on: July 04, 2016, 07:57:32 PM
I'm renting and pointing 5PH here for a short period (1 hour).
I also pointed my own miners, excluding Ant S9 (Kano.is) here.
Good Luck!!!
No luck this time  Undecided

I will take a shot on it for the fourth of July.  Waiting for coins to clear.
29546  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: USA Import Duty on S9s? on: July 04, 2016, 05:54:30 PM
I've had to pay on every s9 I've ordered

I didn't pay anything on my Batch 1 unit, although I only bought one then, and this is two units.

Excuse me for asking basic questions:  But are you USA based, how much was the duty per unit, and were you asked to pay through a Canadian site (dhlmypayument.us which routes to mypayment.dhl.ca)?  I'm particularly concerned that a US Import duty would be paid through a Canadian site...

2 units = greater then 2500 usd = pay the man.

plenty of info on this I will find thread link.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1493601.msg15325563#msg15325563


I paid 0 for 2 from ups they missed me on batch 1
I paid 89 usd for 2 from ups they found me on batch 2

I paid 0 for 1 from ups I was under 2k on batch 4
29547  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: AntMiner S9 - Stops Hashing still using power on: July 04, 2016, 03:18:47 PM
If you are root root  to access the gui it change it to :

 root  

!QAZ5thn&UJM$$1234


     use a  long password  different then root    some thing like the one above

Thanks for your advice,  can you see any reason in the logs why the miners would stop mining?  And if you do, can you advise me how I can correct it?  I have literally no idea myself on this one.

I think if you are burning power and have an internet connection  it may be misdirected .

if you are burning power and have no internet if should show in the logs.

It isnt misdirected.  The hardware actually shows 0GHs.

Also, when it is mining, it works fine, it just hits this strange mode where it stops and is appearing to burn power without actually doing anything.

I copied the logs at the beginning of the thread, do you know what to look for to help diagnose this issue?

I looked at the logs after I posted and frankly can't see the issue.  since you have working s-9s'  and since this one works  a line by line comparison between a good  s-9 and the dud is in order.

 I also suspect  the psu may have an issue since it is burning watts well under the norm of 1300 watts (1000 watts) or  you have a rapid fire internet dropout return like a light flickering

I have had your issue happen on s-3's .  I would burn ¾ power and get no hash.

It was an internet issue as I was dropping my internet on one unit.  I replaced the eth net wire and all worked.

I would swap the net cable on the s-9 end with a steady s-9  watch for a day.

if it still happens I would swap a psu with a steady s-9  for a day.

if it still happens I would ask more questions here to see if some one has your problem.

It could be the controller is rapid fire dropping net connection.  and the issue is the port on the controller.
29548  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [35+PH] Kano CKPool kano.is 0.9% PPLNS US,DE,SG,DK,JP,FR on: July 04, 2016, 03:10:41 PM
19212,419216,419254
number 11 >>>>> 419278
29549  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [35+PH] Kano CKPool kano.is 0.9% PPLNS US,DE,SG,DK,JP,FR on: July 04, 2016, 01:31:14 PM
number 7 >>>>> 419177    of the last 992 blocks before the ½ ing

numbers 8,9,10  >>>>>  419212,419216,419254
29550  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: 「魚池」BTC:330PH - LTC:330GH - ETH:700GH - PPS at 3%! 🐟 on: July 04, 2016, 04:49:12 AM
How much will I make per day with 9.4 Th/s and we find 20 blocks in one day? can someone show me the calculation for this please. thank you so much

the blocks made have no meaning   this is a pps pool.

https://www.f2pool.com/help


Estimated Coins Per Day   

0.00232905 BTC / Thash/s
0.01019439 LTC / Mhash/s   
0.00730423 ETH / Mhash/s

so your 9.4 x 0.00232905 = 0.02189307 

   it gets sent every day  and a fee is charged to send it to you on top of the 3%

 it may be .0002  I stopped mining here last year.  so I do not remember
29551  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: July 04, 2016, 04:01:37 AM





This is the first S9 purchase I made, which has been stable running on Kano.Is. It has been within hashrate spec, and overall I think everything is as expected. (I have learned what to expect over my many BM purchases so when I say "as expected" I do not mean to infer there are not many things which should be handled differently, I mean it is as expected, and I was fortunate to receive this unit as it is.)

It is a Batch 1, which I had reservations about after the S7 fiasco, but as usual, there were not many choices for "after the halving" gear. That is not what this post is about, so please refrain from debating it being a sound purchase, halving effectiveness, etc.

This, is a Hardware question, which I have seen at least one other person post about but I have not found much in the way of answers.

I have one hash board generating almost all HW errors.
This is the first time bitmain has shown us this on the GUI (to my memory.)
So, one question I wonder is how common it is for one board to cause the majority of the HW errors?

Is it a warranty item? It is hard enough to get Bitmain to pay attention to warranty claims unless going through Yoshi, and he and I are in talks regarding a different purchase but he couldn't get me one out the door fast enough for me to play with so I ordered direct. I have not spoken with Bitmain about this, as again that would not get me anywhere near the reasonable responses I usually read here and I thank all of you in advance for such. This is one of the reasons I love this community, like a family there are those of us who do not get along, but we can still have intelligent conversations with positive outcomes.

So back on topic, how many of you are seeing this same thing, and what are your thoughts from both a technical and ideological viewpoint?
Should I try swapping the physical position of the board?
Swap complete electrical connections with another board?
What about a warranty pursuit? Sincerely it would come out of my pocket to get anything done reasonably fast because I would really buy it if it is even available. I don't want to be down.

My technical concern is this is a sign of a board which is failing, and I will end up down because of it. I prefer to be proactive.
Maybe I should swap it with one of the batch 2 unit hash boards and downclock it? Hmmm, just talking that point out, I have not downclocked the unit to see if I can reduce those HW errors, maybe that should be the first thing I do?

I think many of us believe Bitmain are finishing up the recent batches with lower grade chips. Maybe I have one which they considered fine due to the overall hash and error rates being within spec? What is the "spec" on HW errors.

How would you approach this with Bitmain?

Thanks again for input.

By the way, this is running on the Finksy / Jabber 2880 bo board with a 2880 PSU without any other hardware connected to this PSU. I originally set it up this way because I always burn in my units on individual power supplies so I know nothing else is a variable. This one has been left this way until I had time to sort through this particular issue.
I plan to move it to a 4k setup from Jabber / Finksy with another S9 once I complete the burn in on that unit.






Lower the clock to 625 run for a day see what happens.

I have five of these  they all like lower clocks.

My take on that board is it wants a lower clock .

Now it could be the 2880 breakout board is failing and you should measure every  pcie jack.
29552  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: S9-LN ... ? on: July 04, 2016, 03:49:49 AM
Nice should easily be able to run this off a 1300w PSU too.

Yes I am pulling 4.5 amps at 240 volts at the pdu meter.

So 1080 ac watts for an evga 1300 g2 is workable.

Error rate is almost perfect.
29553  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: just bought SP20 SPondoolies . on: July 04, 2016, 03:46:22 AM


It is older gear.  And most of us have moved to better gear.

That said you are looking okay.  The temps seem to be good 85 for every chip.

You could lower settings on the high one  6 and 7  are pulling more juice. Then the others.
I would drop volts on them.  Try to,get the 220 watts to drop under 180
29554  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: S9-LN ... ? on: July 04, 2016, 03:35:17 AM
Good work Phil

thanks I did a lot of downclock tests on the s-7 and this gear gets pretty quiet compared to the s-7.

I had to move the s-7 to freq 400 from 575 stock.  When I did that hash dropped to about 4000 power used was about 1000 watts. I could do 38% fan .  Maybe a touch louder then this is.

So I moved this down from freq 600 to 462 and the fans are at 35%.

So you keep a higher rate of hash on this batch 4 then I did with the batch 2 s-7.

And a lower fan % then on the batch 2 s-7.

Makes the s-9 good for a free power guy. That needs a relatively quiet machine.

I can not to buy a batch 5 as I wonder if it is able to down clock as well.
29555  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: S9-LN ... ? on: July 04, 2016, 03:18:52 AM
I could really get on board with this idea.

to go a bit further on my testing I now dropped  to fan 35%  freq 462


29556  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Trying to make a list of the rx 480's hash rate power and settings etc. on: July 04, 2016, 02:32:28 AM
Finished building my first wooden frame, it was too narrow to place 6 GPUs. Running 5 480 8 GB on a H81 Pro BTC MB, Win 10 pro, 8 GB RAM and Celeron G1840. Running at stock 2000 memory clock to see how stable it is for last few hours. 123.22 MH/s or 24.76 MH/s/GPU at 950 Watts at the wall with EVGA G2 1300. It is 2x nosier than 5 390 rig. At 2300 mem clock I was getting 28.7 MH/s/GPU.








So stock clocks    950 watts/ 123.22 mh

the evga is about 88% or 89%  at 950 watts.

the cpu is low cost  my guess is it is using 45 of its 53 watt max


if you had a i5 4570t  you would be 20 or 25 watts   but that is only a 20 watt savings and one cpu is 45 the is 150 on ebay when you get lucky

I wonder if you had a 4570t if it would boost your hash rate along with save some power

I think I can run a 6500t against a celeron g3900  on identical  mobos 

a biostar z170  that could show the value of going cheap cpu against better cpu .

950 watts doing 123.22

  I had 3 nanos  at 600 watts  doing 81 mh   no bios mod   and high quality cpu   

 so  5 of these cards  are 5 x 250  = 1250 usd   

3 nanos are 3 x 500 = 1500 usd

they are not so bad.
29557  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 1% fee solo mining USA/DE servers 184 blocks solved! on: July 04, 2016, 02:25:51 AM
Ah i saee i can solo Mine over here i and get a block by my own?  Roll Eyes
What would it take to get every day an block?

5PH but you may not get a block every day.  But I think 5PH is a good guess  Cheesy

try 10.410 ph and that would average a block a day  and cost a lot  to rent (about 25btc )    and way more to own.
29558  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [150TH] [PPLNS 0.5%] Jonny's Mining Emporium (bravo-mining.com) - New Promo! on: July 04, 2016, 02:14:30 AM
jonny should be able to see best share.

I moved an s-9 here for a bit.

Since it is in house I am exploring lower clocks and fans.

it is a batch 4 running at freq 462 vs freq 600

fans set at 35%

very impressive on the down clock   to freq 462  it is quiet fans are at nice low numbers

if you are willing to down clock you can run it in house.
29559  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: AntMiner S9 - Stops Hashing still using power on: July 04, 2016, 12:25:11 AM
If you are root root  to access the gui it change it to :

 root   

!QAZ5thn&UJM$$1234


     use a  long password  different then root    some thing like the one above

Thanks for your advice,  can you see any reason in the logs why the miners would stop mining?  And if you do, can you advise me how I can correct it?  I have literally no idea myself on this one.

I think if you are burning power and have an internet connection  it may be misdirected .

if you are burning power and have no internet if should show in the logs.
29560  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [35+PH] Kano CKPool kano.is 0.9% PPLNS US,DE,SG,DK,JP,FR on: July 04, 2016, 12:13:14 AM
A bad time to run cold.   Some quick math.  

we are 40ph


     90% luck earns 86.4btc per day

   100% luck earns 96.0btc per day

   110% luck earns 105.6btc per day


there are 992 blocks until the ½ ing   that is 6.888 days


so our pool should earn 595 to 727 coins  before the ½ ing

or  24 to 29 blocks   .   lets track it from now on

okay 1 so far yesss! 419009

and 2 down   419046

  3 and 4 while I slept >>>>>>>>419094 +  419102
 number 5 >>>> 419124
number 6 >>>> 419167

so far we snatched 6 of the last  992 blocks left  
number 7 >>>>> 419177    of the last 992 blocks before the ½ ing
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