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2961  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: June 26, 2022, 10:12:30 PM
The Kremlin Trolls from our local section (German) are now launching their offensive to humiliate Ukrainians and cheer Russian propaganda: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5404157.msg60450776#msg60450776

Feel free to come over and call them out!

~Unknown01
~MinoRaiola
~s0nix
~thandie
~Poly#Crypto


NATO-Asow-Hakenkreuz eng vereint!

Poly#Crypto is a proven Kremlin Troll
2962  Economy / Reputation / Re: User: Unknown01 threatens me with a forum ban for saying my opinion on: June 26, 2022, 10:06:20 PM
But unfortunately the attacks don't stop even if you ignore them (an attempt to end the conflict).. We're all tired of being attacked by shady accounts all the time so I hope things can be sorted out here  Grin
That is not the topic of this thread, but have you actually considered that these users are criticizing you based on your statements and that you don't have to be related with 1miau in order to realize, that many of your statements are very questionable?
The topic is you attacking Kamix and in 1miau's thread the topic is the inappropriate use of trust (which you are also involved in) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5404167.0

As already said, I didn't attack him in any way and anyone who speaks German can see that too. Even if you use the translator you can see that I didn't threaten anyone. So don't try to distract from the real problem with "1miau". In the next few days some more of our board will definitely comment on the problems and these will not be newbie accounts, they´ll be long-standing legendarys. I'm already looking forward to the feedback from mole0815 (moderator of german board), so that our English community can also see who is actually causing the problem.
Are you posting on a different forum?
You attacked me out of nowhere in our Signature campaign thread, when I wrote, that the posting quality should always be high, not only when you want to apply for a good campaign.



In english: Somehow the newbie accounts increase which are aggressive and abusive like a virus in the German area, I should actually report this acounts theymos. I already have a list of all suspicious accounts - I'll actually do that soon.
Calling Kamix "aggressive and abusive like a virus" is appropriate?  Cheesy
Surely not!
And you forgot your other insults against Kamix!

You half-strong internet troll, calm down and learn manners and decency before you insult others. Hide in real life and insult on the internet - that's all I have to say about your lies & insults.
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/6044/60448857.html



1miau thinks it's funny that I know 6 accounts (all are longer than him registered in the forum) that have him on ignore. If I know 6 accounts, how many will there be that I don't know about?
Idiots like Poly#Crypto posting such russian propaganda?


Archived
And there's more of it...
Of course will will comment on it and call you war Kremlin trolls.

That's BADecker, Tash and be.open crap.  Cheesy


Yeah, it's completely understandable that pro-russian propaganda trolls like Poly#Crypto are on your side @Unknown01!

It's a shame that they are on your side.
Well, I'm not surprised..



@1miau this is the first time I've writing to you since a long time: you are so sure that you are right, so here is my offer to you: I will put down my signature if more than 50% of the German established community (at least 10 merits in the last 3 months from 5 different people and at least senior member rank) support your view that your trust entry was justified and I'm a shitposter, but if more than 50% don't agree, then you put your signature down! Deal?
I'm going to agree to that deal but you are the one saying, "the german board" is supporting your wrongdoings, so you need to show 50% of that board supporting you as a shitposter.  Cheesy
Will be funny.
And in addition, you should change your positive trust on MinoRaiola's account to neutral.

Do you agree?


2963  Economy / Reputation / Re: Dangerous and inappropriate use of Trust: giving positive Trust for Shitposters on: June 26, 2022, 09:35:50 PM
So I refer here to go back to details on the post here:

I'm glad that the thread was opened, now we can finally put all the facts on the table and hopefully this will also calm down the situation on our German board. Just to be clear, my English isn't the best and as noted I'm from the German area so sorry for any mistakes in english that I write.
.....


I will only briefly comment on this so that the impression is not given that I am leaving his claims about me and thus tacitly accepting them.
Nice!
Now, we have your confirmation, that you won't back down, won't remove your inappropriate positive trust from MinoRaiola (and s0nix) from their accounts.
~Unknown01


As noted, 1miau claims that I´m a Shitposter, which I absolutely cannot understand and other colleagues from the board will also confirm this to you. I already refuted the points he made about why he gave me neutral trust in the previous post, which is quoted above, as lies. I also wonder if he is also questioning his judgment on Hhampuz since I have confirmation from Hhampuz that my posts are very much to his satisfaction.
You are contributing close to nothing to the forum, I'm sorry.
Even when asked, you've showed your stubborn behaviour.


I've been very active in the forum for many years now, I registered without knowing that there were bounty campaigns at all and I also wrote posts in times without bounty, so I'm not in the forum because of the campaigns. I always try to help colleagues and participate in discussions, talks, etc. If it's shitposting then 99.99% of the people in the entire forum only post such.
Cheesy
Everyone can look into the campaign spreadsheets where you are active and each week, your post count is barely more than the threshold.
You have cried in the German section multiple times, when one of your shitposts was deleted and you received no payment.  Cheesy Cheesy
Because your gambling shitposts are getting deleted frequently.
You should be added here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5403475.0



Of course, I won't say anything about his trust entry, Mino can take care of that. I´m sure that he too will establish his trust well Smiley
Both of your circled trust ratings are dangerous and inappropriate use of trust.
You should remove it or you will be removed from DT2 as both accounts, MinoRaiola and Unknown01 were DT2, when the topics was brought up.
Account sending out positive trusts like that should be nowhere DT.

And you should learn the difference between positive trust and neutral trust.



edit: I would also like to point out that I was even a Full member when the merit system was introduced and have earned 561 merits since then, do you think that a shitposter can really get so many merits from so many different people?
Because I made the mistake to give out some Merit far too lenient. I've stopped this since I got to know why you are here (shitposting and writing bullshit). Merit is still given out very leniently in the German section, which is partially a problem because it facilitates shitposting.
Some accounts are like: "Why posting good content when there's still coming in enough Merit to earn some sats per week?"
That's an issue and you are part of it, sorry.
2964  Economy / Reputation / Re: User: Unknown01 threatens me with a forum ban for saying my opinion on: June 26, 2022, 09:14:23 PM
I'm glad that the thread was opened, now we can finally put all the facts on the table and hopefully this will also calm down the situation on our German board.
The solution would be very easy: get sane and stop you Bullshit.
For the sake of everyone.

Now, you are going to attack newbies only because Kamix dared to debunk your braindead trollpost?
Seriously?  Cheesy


Our German board is basically very familiar, we hardly have anyone there who writes really pointless things, you can also ask our moderator about this on the German board. We have been helping each other for years and newcomers are very welcome! The text is now a little longer, but I have to describe everything in detail that has happened so far and my statements can be confirmed afterwards by various old members from our board, including our moderator mole0815, who will also confirm my statements. I would even be willing to make these statements under oath.
You (mistakenly) showed us your lack of knowledge about forum rules and DT standards already multiple times.

You don't know how DT works, what it's about and how it's used in an appropriate way.
I don't need to talk much here, see: Dangerous and inappropriate use of Trust: giving positive Trust for Shitposters

You used Trust to bolster your own rating, to bolster MinoRaiola's rating, your shitposter friend.
Had nothing to do with trust, should be neutral!
Imagine a word, where everyone gives out a positive trust to befriended accounts. It would be insane!
It’s encouraging spam and scam.
Every shitposter would start to increase their trust-score by farming trust with each other.

Your lack of DT standards related knowledge is embarassing, same linke MinoRaiola.

The German loacl board is not a shitposter enabling zone!
And it's not gonna be a shitposter enabling zone, Not today, not tomorrow, never!


Regarding this thread about Kamix: I haven't threatened him with a ban or a reputation thread.
You have severely defamed Kamix and threatened him to report him to theymos.
It's archived.


We have close contact among old members on the German board and the suspicion that these accounts are related has existed in our community for a long time. In principle, multi-accounts are not forbidden either, but if they are used to exchange merits or are used in campaigns such as Chipmixer to write posts (by leading monologues under 2 separate accounts from one person), those would definitely be points here are not wanted, right?
So, you are openly saying, that Nestade, an account from 2013 is my Alt?
LOL, you are getting delusional.
Just because you dislike our engagement against abusers like you?

We have much more support but it's getting tiresome to debunk your bullshit.
You are just here to use Bitcointalk for your own agenda, get paid some lousy sats for shitposting and that's it.
Of course you dislike us because we are not going to enable your sigspam zone.




Since it was also mentioned that I break the rules: I have never made a statement that I want to break the rules. I have stated that I am not interested in the rules witch are set up by 1miau, he can keep his opinion to himself, there are forum rules that I abide by and our moderator will inform me if I should break the rules, where of course I would correct myself.
Not true!
Everything is available what you've said!

The most ridicuous thing was, when you are reminded that pyramid quoting is against the rules and not beneficial for the forum.
You insisted on it!

See bullrun2020bro's
[META] Pyramiden-Quotes im deutschsprachigen Board




To sum it all up, I didn't threaten Kamix with anything and this thread is just there to attack me in the process.
Your lies are tiresome, everyone can see it that you are wrong.

One more ridiculous point: your insults are completely unfouded! 6 spammers from our local board are not "the german board"!  Cheesy
But they are spamming the German board and throwing their insults at everyone who's calling out their misbehaviour. They are always starting the trouble and they are masively butthurt, when they are called out. Also with defamations because they don't like to be called out.
They like to derail civil discussion. It's always them.
Some are just here for paid posting, some are here because they have too much free time.



The fact, that you are not backing down from your abuses will make your account completely distrusted from DT and in case you keep your insults going against establised accounts and contributors like Nestade, bullrun2020bro, me and several newbies going, you'll be called out again for your abuses and your defamations.
You are spamming the forum every day and spreading lies and insults, when you are called out. We don't need childish, disgusting trolls.

Hereby, I call you a "proud shitposter" because you are proud of producing low quality spam.
You are, together with MinoRaiola, a proud misuser of positive trust to bolster your trust score to get more easily into singnature campaigns.

Now, you are attacking established accounts for pointing out how bad your behaviour is for Bitcointalk.

You should be nowhere near DT, you should be removed from future singature campaings because that's why you are here.
Not for contributions.

But go ahead and keep digging your own hole!  Wink
2965  Economy / Reputation / Re: User: Unknown01 threatens me with a forum ban for saying my opinion on: June 26, 2022, 08:30:52 PM
Why should we be friends? I celebrated a friendly get-together today with +20 people in a rented barbecue area. For me, friendship is something different, but everyone has their own opinion.
All of us know your "be nice to us (shitposters)" already. We will bring up again posts advocating to increase posting quality, doesn't matter that you don't like it.
As I said in the other thread:

According to them, a harmonious community is a community where shitposting is tolerated or encouraged.
According to MinoRaiola and Unknown01 "a harmonious community" is a community where shitposting is tolerated or encouraged.
Such a mindset is destrying the forum from within.

Keep in mind: your low quality posts, spam- and troll posts are not beneficial for the forum.
Your paid campaign won't advertise on Bitcointalk, when there are only shitposters.
Unfortunately, you were mentioned in igehh's latest list for Gambling shitpostingsCheesy Cheesy

He's completely right there.



1miau is also for me the main problem and source of mobbing in the German Local.
LOL
"Mobbing" low quality spammers.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

There's much more "mobbing" going on: Wall of fame / shame. Shit posts so bad that they are actually funny



Many Users are attacked by him and they use the ignore function.
Half a dozen trolls is not "many users".
And yes, I will continue to push for a better posting quality and call out your abuses.
What do you say about your inappropriate use of positive trust?

Nothing of course, because you will lose your DT2 position quickly!



To sum it all up, I didn't threaten Kamix with anything and this thread is just there to attack me in the process.
Your words are archived already, multiples times.
You really don't know that the forum has multiple tools to save your initially posted content?
Ever heard about Ninjastic.space or Loyce.club?
It's not useful to harass Newbies without reasons!
2966  Economy / Reputation / Re: User: Unknown01 threatens me with a forum ban for saying my opinion on: June 26, 2022, 07:46:22 PM
You should follow this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5386945.0
There 1miau only spreads lies, attacks the members. That's what he does, nothing else.

Yes, those threads are really recommended to see Unknown01, thandie, Poly#Crypto, MinoRaiola, s0nix, Beobachter90, etc. spreading their lies, insulting other users and spamming Off-Topic posts:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5386945.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5228542.0 (this thread is even about to be closed due to their actions)
Yes  Cheesy Cheesy

But add this one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5392188.0

Shitposters crying that quality posts are too "time consuming" and posting from their phone is too difficult to write longer posts.  Cheesy
2967  Economy / Reputation / Re: User: Unknown01 threatens me with a forum ban for saying my opinion on: June 26, 2022, 07:39:33 PM
The problem of these accounts spreading Putin propaganda in the German section: they are thinking they can abuse Bitcointalk for their agenda and post their nonsense without receiving harsh opposition for their inhuman hot takes. They are derailing our local board. That's what's wrong and we have talked to them whats wrong about it.

Although I don't follow the German board (Ich spreche keine Deutsch), I agree that the forum is full of this kind of people accounts.
I don't really have a solution for them and I don't know what can be done. If we do something we hurt the freedom of speech, if we don't.. the forum gets full of this kind of trolls.
I think one of the problem are paid accounts (Sigspam), so good Campaign Managers are an important point here.
But it's not limited to paid posts, see BADdecker (but he's in a league of his own).
Some people have too much free time.  Cheesy

Of course, an active community is also essential where contributors are rewarded (for example Merit) and low-quality posts are discouraged, sometimes even long posts are contributiong nothing.

The moderation can discourage such spam by enforcing the forum rules.
For example, we have already rules in place like trolling spam and similar but it's not easy to decide here.
I've reported some shitposts in the international section and all of them were remowed. That's how reporters and moderators can make Bitcointalk a better place with lesse spam.

But after all, the most essential thing is, that people participating on Bitcointalk have at least some sort of self-awareness:
Are my posts beneficial for Bitcointalk or am I abusing Bitcointalk as a dump for my propaganda?

We should try to be people from the first category.  Smiley



They aren't listening and instead now, they are threatening Newbies with bans (which is funny because troll accounts don't have any power to ban anyone, their lack of forum rules, DT and other stuff is apalling)
Yes, it's not only limited to propaganda spam but also to giving out positive trust to other troll accounts, which is deeply concerning in my opinion because it's not how positive trust should be used. Such feedbacks should be neutral, see here.

Spam should de reported and removed at sight.
I've seen the threatening of newbies. Afaik it's not in the forum rules, it may be punishable offense. But we need mods' input in this. Cyrus is mod in Reputation, maybe he can help?
Trolling is punishable offense. But trolling may be a bit vague. Still, it's best we can do.
I'm in favor of adding "harassing newbies without reason" to the rules.
Newbies are very important for having new, potential contributors on Bitcointalk.
Maybe that's a discussion for Meta.  Smiley

Regarding trolling: some might consider it "trolling", others not.
Some excessive trolls have caught a negative trust, some only neutral.
Some posts are getting deleted, some not.

It's a difficult question and most likely we won't get a final answer.  Undecided
I'm still hoping for more self-awareness how such low-quality posters are destroying the forum, even damaging Bitcoin's reputation. Most of the are just here to earn, some are just here to troll.
People brought that up in our local section, shitposters didn't care.
We keep trying.  Smiley



Meanwhile you are the biggest troll on the German board, the members laugh at you, nobody likes you.
Yeah, I like trolls like Poly#Crypto and thandie digging their own holes.
Stop posting Putin propaganda, stop harassing newbies, stop misusing positive trust and start contrubuting Bitcoin-related content.
Since you are not posting Bitcoin-related content, maybe Bitcointalk is not your forum.  

And tell Unknown01 that he's very lucky to earn valuable BTC every week for his spam.  Cheesy



The only problem is @1miau himself

So I don't share your opinion.

Yes, of course, I don't see any problems in the Bulgarian Borad either (I do not speak bulgarian).
Because I do not follow the board. What a funny reasoning.
Maybe it would be a good idea for you to stop mocking established accounts, the real contributors here.
2968  Other / Meta / Re: [INFO]Gambling Board Spams; Concerns, Solutions & Suggestions on: June 26, 2022, 07:17:02 PM
First point:
Huge respect to igehhh for bringing up this topic of shitposting, how to improve the posting quality on the forum and discourage shitposting.
An active community is very important to keep shitposters in check and we need more active contribution of quality posters to discourage shitposter activity.

I’m also in favor of your suggestion about self-moderated threads. Shitposters missing their weekly post counts for campaigns and losing pay due to their deleted shitposts are a very good thing.  Tongue



Will a neutral tag with a bold message to these users be sufficient to send a signal to sig managers? Too harsh?
A neutral feedback is a very good idea to bring awareness to the issue of shitposting.
It is also a heads-up to the account owner himself and maybe the owner is putting more effort into his posts.
I have done this a few times in the past and as far as I know some high DT members as well (like actmyname or The Pharmacist).
It’s a very useful function of neutral trust to bring awareness to something, where negative trust would be inappropriate.
When the account has improved his post quality and come clean, the neutral feedback could be removed. And we should communicate actively that neutral feedbacks for shitposting can be removed if the posting quality from the account has improved for a reliable duration and no other incident has happened.
Such an approach could reduce shitposting a lot.



Some of the managers are also unfamiliar with the game, making it difficult to moderate participants. We do our best to help.
I agree to igehhh’s approach here because just relying on campaign managers to sort out low quality posters for any sort of gambling discussion is a very hard job because even a very good campaign managers has limits concerning judgement if an Serie A or Primera Division post is a quailty or spam post. Even a very good campaign manager can’t have a good judgement for every section on the forum.


And igehhh seems to be very knowledgeable about the things he’s talking about, he seems to be very knowledgeable how to detect gambling shitposts, so his feedback is highly valuable and he can maintain a good and reliable list.
I would suggest for high quality signature campaign managers to use igehhh’s list from his OP and when there’s an open position in a campaign, the accounts mentioned on igehhh’s list come last. Or at least, when a campaign applicant is mentioned in igehhhh’s list, this should be a factor to make it much more unlikely for hat account to join the campaign.
High quality signature campaign managers should use igehhh’s list like current Merit scores for an account as an important point to decide, which accounts are best (or worst) suited to fill the open spots.

When there’s a good and frequently maintained list of spammers, it can be beneficial for signature campaign managers to use such list as reference when deciding which acconts are going to join a campaign.  Smiley
2969  Economy / Reputation / Re: User: Unknown01 threatens me with a forum ban for saying my opinion on: June 26, 2022, 06:46:53 PM
Believe it or not, freedom of speech (like on this forum) also means that some will say that Putin is great (even if every sane person knows that he's just another war criminal) and their posts are allowed. You have to either grow a thicker skin, either press the ignore link. As simple as that.
The problem of these accounts spreading Putin propaganda in the German section


No. Definitely not.
Definitely you are the problem!

Your shenanigans have been tiring the German local board for some time now.
You can express whatever "Opinion" (posting "justifications" about Putin's war) but don't expect that your "Opinion" goes unchallenged.  Cheesy
90% of your posts are dedicated to that topic, 9% are defamations, 1% are the war is ugly BUT...
We know how your propaganda is intended!
Don't expect that there's no one calling out your Off-Topic troll spam. You are contributing nothing to the forum!
The criticisms from Kamix, from Nestade, from Dissi_xD, from Basti773, from bullrun2020bro and from myself and far more are totally deserved for what you are giving out as "opinions".

In addition, you are the ones manipulating trust because you have no clue about DT standards.
DT is a community based reputation system, developed in the first half of the last decade!
You don't know the difference between positive and negative trust!

Your lack of DT knowledge is embarassing. Did you ever read LoyceV's guide?



And that is a criminal offense.
Your Spamposts are "a criminal offense"  Cheesy Cheesy

Read more here: Dangerous and inappropriate use of Trust: giving positive Trust for Shitposters

People like you are destroying the forum from within because of
- supporting shitposters
- supporting spam
- inappropriate use of positive Trust
- contributing nothing (you are accusing me? Look at my posts!)
- attacking newbies
2970  Economy / Reputation / Dangerous and inappropriate use of Trust: giving positive Trust for Shitposters on: June 26, 2022, 06:37:48 PM
Update: Locking this thread now because all abusers mentioned in our research are now removed from DT2.  Smiley




Giving out positive trust just because you like a person is already an issue because it somehow undermines what trust is about: documenting trades and therefore giving an indication if this account is trustworthy and unlikely to scam in a trade.
There are very strict guidelines if you give out positive trust in case no trade occurred: the account needs to be very trustworthy already and have a history of succesful trades. In some cases, positive trust is also justified for accounts making big contributions to the forum for quite a while, like exposing spam and scam and other outstanding contributions.
I’m all for keeping these requirements very high to give out a positive trust because if we lower our standards, positive trust will get a meaningless metric and carelessly distributed positive trust will encourage scams and abuse.
A positive trust should be well considered! If in doubt, give out a neutral trust!  Smiley


But giving out positive trust for shitposters is a new level of inapropriate use of trust, happening recently in our German local board.
I’ve tried to solve this case by negotiations via PM but the affected accounts didn’t show any willingness to change it to neutral (my recommendation).
In opposite: there were only cheeky replies to my PM and the abusers didn’t care at all.

Background: We have a few shitposters in our local board and they have no decency, like Unknown01, who was called out earlier by other members and I also added a neutral trust for Unknown01 recently for continued shitposting.
In regards of the new spots for ChipMixer in April 2022, I made a statement about general posting quality in the German discussion thread about signature campaigns. I wrote: "the posting quality should always be high, no matter if someone is in a signature campaign currently or wants to get / stay in one.".
I believe my viewpoint is very resonable because we all know what shitposters want: a quick buck in exchange for effort as low as possible, what often translates to shitposting. Shitposting needs to be discouraged.
I got attacked immediately by shitposter Unknown01 because I triggered him obviously. Instead of backing down and admitting his wrongdoing, he doubled down and spew a bunch of lies and defamations against myself.
He even insisted on posting his pyramid quotes, which are against the rules and there’s a separate thread for it, explaining that pyramid quotes are bad. I replied to him by pointing out to avoid pyramid quotes but he continued his childish behavior and didn’t even show any guilt.
Obviously, he was prouf of his shitposting.

Now, shitpost apologist MinoRaiola sided with Unknown01 and gave out a positive trust to “counter” my neutral trust.
Yes, he really countered a neutral trust with a positive trust on a shitposter account. He wrote (in German and he used no reference link):

Quote
"He is advocating for a harmonious community in the German local board. With such an empathetic nature and commitment to other users, my trust belongs to him. Nice to have you here. In a few months Unknown01 is active in the forum for 5 years  and started with a sympathetic posting "I’ve no clue, I want to learn""
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1280964 (sent feedback).

Positive trust both from MinoRaiola and s0nix at Unknown01 account:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1041310

This positive trust is a fucking joke. Of course Unknown01 is active for five years and constantly shitposting for a few bucks. If that’s a positive trust, everyone can give out positive trust for every 5 year old shitposter account.
In addition, Unknown01 sent a positive trust back to MinoRaiola for giving him a positive trust and his repeated shitpost apologia. According to them, a harmonious community is a community where shitposting is tolerated or encouraged.

Later, shitpost apologist and off-topic troll-poster s0nix joined their positive trust misuse and also added a positive feedback to Unknown01, which should be technically a neutral trust because it’s not justified to be positive.



s0nix and his friends are only using positive trust to bolster their accounts.  Lips sealed

The discussion happened in our Bounty Signature thread and was merged by mole0815 afterwards into a new topic, so my post about posting quailty is the first comment in this newly created topic by mole0815: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5392188.0

And I even PMed MinoRaiola, reminding him, that his behaviour is inappropriate use of Trust and his rating should be changed to neutral. I liked him the guide of LoyceV but he didn't care. MinoRaiola didn’t back down and instead sent an insulting PM back.


I’m not saying MinoRaiola, Unknown01 and s0nix committed a trust abuse, but it’s clearly not how the trust system should be used because it would get useless (and therefore dangerous) very quickly. It’s inappropriate use of trust and accounts misusing positive trust should be excluded from our trust lists as soon as possible.
In addition, encouraging shitposters by handing them out a positive trust is INSANE!
It’s encouraging spam and scam.
Every shitposter would start to increase their trust-score by farming trust with each other.
If MinoRaiola doesn’t like my neutral trust for Unknown01’s shitposting he should also use a neutral trust. That’s how it works, if he wants to show his support for shitposters but he refused to change it to neutral, when I PMed him.

MinoRaiola has zero understanding of how the trust system works and should stay far away from it. Countering neutral trust with positive Trust on a Shitposter account is dangerous and inappropriate.
MinoRaiola was accused as a shitposter recently, too.  Cheesy

I'm open to debate wether there should be further punishment like trust entries for bolstering their trustscores to get thier shitposter accounts into better signature campaigns and subvert the trust system.

See also BitcoinArena's research: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5404157.msg60449756#msg60449756

Conclusion:

~MinoRaiola
~Unknown01
~s0nix
~thandie




2971  Economy / Reputation / Re: User: Unknown01 threatens me with a forum ban for saying my opinion on: June 26, 2022, 06:26:31 PM
Then 2 weeks later, week 171, thandie does this
...
Someone convince me that the two are not alts and are not trying to manipulate the trust system?
Great catch!

Looks like they have been playing these games for some weeks now, add Poly#Crypto and the list is getting bigger:

https://loyce.club/trust/2022-04-09_Sat_05.10h/383517.html
https://loyce.club/trust/2022-04-16_Sat_05.07h/383517.html

I don't have proof that they are Alts but at least it's looking like trust manipulation.

s0nix only used trust to send a positive trust to Unknown01 recently.
He has no clue about DT, doesn't use it how it should be used but trust is obviously good enough to send a fraudulent positive trust to his shitposter friend Unknown01:



 Roll Eyes

That's how they use trust...
2972  Economy / Reputation / Re: User: Unknown01 threatens me with a forum ban for saying my opinion on: June 26, 2022, 06:19:06 PM
Lol! Cheesy

Now Unknown01 accuses me and 1miau with a neutral trust to be alts without any valid evidence except that we're using the same language (and probably both of us are breathing air).
Yes, Unknown01 is so clueless.
He knows close to nothing about DT standards and showed his lack of knowledge multiple times.
Same goes for his befriended shitposters.

I think distrusting them is an easy solution (and maybe a neutral trust for shitposting, trolling and harassment).



Even his claim that 90% of my merits came from 1miau is a lie as shown on bpip:
As a German Merit souce, I even gave a some Merits to Unknown01 because I had the impression, he would improve but unfortunately, I was wrong.



There's an easy solution:


~Unknown01 [DT2]
~MinoRaiola [DT2]
~s0nix
~thandie
Agreed.

Unknown01 is DT2 and just like his friends misused the trust-system by giving his friends POSITIVE trust without any indication.
Exactly, such users like Unknown01 shouldn't be anywhere near DT.



If there would be a ban, Unknown01 would be first. Unknown01 is providing no value to the forum and now he's starting to attack new accounts.
The user seems known to me, I mean I saw him many times in posts like I see a lot of you. I did not see his recent activities (may consider a look) but the name sounds familiar to me and I get the feel that he is not a shit poster. Anyway, I will look at his post history shortly before making any bad assumption.
I think you mean Upgrade00? Upgrade00 is a quality poster.

But Unknown01 is mostly active in the German section and in spam megathreads, facilitatig post like these:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1041310;sa=showPosts;start=560
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1041310;sa=showPosts;start=540

He was even accused of low posting quality: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2360806.msg57024047#msg57024047

2973  Economy / Reputation / Re: User: Unknown01 threatens me with a forum ban for saying my opinion on: June 26, 2022, 05:14:11 PM
Believe it or not, freedom of speech (like on this forum) also means that some will say that Putin is great (even if every sane person knows that he's just another war criminal) and their posts are allowed. You have to either grow a thicker skin, either press the ignore link. As simple as that.
The problem of these accounts spreading Putin propaganda in the German section: they are thinking they can abuse Bitcointalk for their agenda and post their nonsense without receiving harsh opposition for their inhuman hot takes. They are derailing our local board. That's what's wrong and we have talked to them whats wrong about it.
They aren't listening and instead now, they are threatening Newbies with bans (which is funny because troll accounts don't have any power to ban anyone, their lack of forum rules, DT and other stuff is apalling)
Yes, it's not only limited to propaganda spam but also to giving out positive trust to other troll accounts, which is deeply concerning in my opinion because it's not how positive trust should be used. Such feedbacks should be neutral, see here.



Don't worry... as long as you haven't broken any rules, you can ignore the user's empty threats. He has no clue about the forum's rules (and that is why he constantly breaks them himself).
However his bad behaviour (especially against a newbie) and that of his colleagues really damage the reputation (of the forum's German section), which is unfortunate. Their behaviour already lead to the imminent closure of the German "Corona-Thread".
Actually it's quite funny that exactly this user who is not unknown for his off-topic shitposts threatens you with a ban.
Exactly!
The accounts mentioned by OP aren't contributing any value, have no forum rules awareness, know nothing about DT, are just spamming 24/7 our German section and now also attacking Newbie accounts.  Cheesy
They are not beneficial for Bitcointalk.
2974  Economy / Reputation / Re: User: Unknown01 threatens me with a forum ban for saying my opinion on: June 26, 2022, 04:52:27 PM
I can confirm that the threat happened against Kamix and Unknown01 completely lost his mind.
Unknown01 is involved in various shenanigans against established accounts and new accounts.

I fact, he's taking the German section hostage with his Off-Topic shitposts and baseless accusations.

However: I think that there is no chance at all that @Kamix will be banned because Kamix didn't break any rule.
Kamix is a friendly account from our German section.
If there would be a ban, Unknown01 would be first. Unknown01 is providing no value to the forum and now he's starting to attack new accounts.

There's an easy solution:


~Unknown01
~MinoRaiola
~s0nix
~thandie
~Poly#Crypto
2975  Local / Off-Topic (Deutsch) / Re: Corona, Russland vs. EU bzw. Amerika etc. on: June 26, 2022, 04:23:57 PM
Während anderswo ein Krieg tobt und viele unschuldige Menschen auf beiden Seiten sterben können die Herrschaften darüber lachen, dass Putin ein Macho ist.
"BeiDe SeITeN!11!!drölf!
Wer immer noch nicht erkannt hat, dass das Problem an der aktuellen Situation der Einmarsch Putin's Truppen in die Ukraine ist, dem ist leider nicht mehr zu helfen!
Wie kann man den Angreifer nur so dermaßen in Schutz nehmen?
Was meinst du, mit deinen Kriegsverharmlosungen zu erreichen?

Wenn man neutral die Situation betrachtet gibt es keinen einzigen Kanzler/Präsidenten  auf unserer Seite der es annähernd körperlich oder geistig mit Putin aufnehmen könnte. Toll, dass die Herren sich aufjedenfall amüsieren können.
Du scheinst in deiner Traumwelt zu leben..

Und was sollte daran "geistig" überlegen sein, wenn Putin einen Invasionskrieg gegen die Ukraine startet?
Ich meine, deine Aussage ist so dermaßen realitätsfern, weil Putin exakt das Gegenteil von dem erreicht, was "geistig" überlegen wäre:
- NordStream 2 wird nie in Betrieb gehen
- Russland verliert wichtige Absatzmärkte im Westen
- Die Folge von Putin’s Angriffskrieg ist eine militärische Stärkung der NATO
- Schweden und Finnland, seit dem kalten Krieg neutrale Staaten, wollen nun in die NATO
- Ukraine wird sich dem Westen zuwenden
- Die Ukraine sieht Russland von nun an als brutalen Feind
- Die baltischen Staaten und Polen wenden sich endgültig von Russland ab
- Selbst Kasachstan wendet sich von Russland ab


Oder meinst du das?





Die einzige Lösung die es gibt ist es mit Russland zu verhandeln, ein zurückgeben bestimmter ukrainischer Regionen die eingenommen worden sind wäre wünschenswert.
Es wäre selbstverständlich, wenn Putin die von ihm besetzten Gebiete wieder abgeben würde.
Schließlich hat er die territoriale Integrität der Ukraine bereits 2014 verletzt!



Als Gegenleistung sollte die Ukraine Neutralität garantieren inkl. keinem Beitritt zur Nato.
Damit er sie später wieder überfallen kann?
LOL
Die Ukraine sollte selbst entscheiden, was sie will!



Aber von diesem Krieg profitieren aktuell zuviele Akteure überwiegend ganz im Westen
Das hat Putin sich bestimmt ganz anders vorgestellt, als er den Krieg am 24.02.2022 vom Zaun gebrochen hatte!



Man liefert lieber weiter Waffen & Rüstungen um tolle Einnahmen zu generieren an einen Verteidiger der keine Chance gegen diese Übermacht hat.
Warum sollte man die Ukrainer unter den Bus werfen, wie du es hier unverhohlen vorschlägst?
Warum sollte man die Ukrainer einer russischen Invasion schutzlos ausliefern, wenn man doch weiß, was Putin in der Ukraine für verbrechen begeht, was er mit (dem Rest) von eroberten Städten anstellt und

Warum hetzt du so vehement gegen Frieden und Selbstbestimmung der ukrainischen Bevölkerung?



Die zweifellos beste Lösung wäre es, wenn Putin die Ukraine von alleine wieder verlässt aber er hat sich leider am 24.02.2022 zu einer Invasion entschieden, die zum Glück rund um Kyiv zurückgedrängt und im Rest der Ukraine zumindest ein Vormarsch russischer Truppen verhindert werden konnte.
Denn wie auch du wissen müsstest, steht von diesen Städten nach Durchmarsch der russischen Truppen nicht mehr viel.

Er würde Russland, der Ukraine und der Welt einen großen Gefallen tun, wenn er seinen Ukrainefeldzug beendet!



Stattdessen könnte man sich bemühen mit Putin zu reden und ihm die Gründe für einen Krieg wegzunehmen.
Achja, Tatsachenverdeher01.  Roll Eyes
"Gründe" für einen Krieg.
Wie eklig menschenverachtend, deine Formulierung!

Es gibt keinen rationalen Grund für Putins imperialen Ukrainefeldzug!



Da ist man seit langem mal im Forum unterwegs... unfassbar was Putin Trolle bei Bitcointalk verbreiten. Eine Schande für die Bitcoin Community...

Keine Ahnung also was sich unsere Kasperln denken? Wenn man neutral die Situation betrachtet gibt es keinen einzigen Kanzler/Präsidenten  auf unserer Seite der es annähernd körperlich oder geistig mit Putin aufnehmen könnte. Toll, dass die Herren sich aufjedenfall amüsieren können.

Was bist du für ein erbärmlicher Putin Troll. Dir kann man nur wünschen, dass du das Leid was die Ukrainer erleben selbst durchmachen müsstest...

Deine Posthistorie strotzt nur vor Lügen. Wander doch nach Russland aus. Dann kannst du deinem starken Führer Putin den Hintern pudern.



Kriegsverbrechen Russlands in den letzten Tagen...

Einsatz Thermite Bomben: https://twitter.com/CanadianUkrain1/status/1540780660092276736
Erbeutung der größten Solaranlage der Ukraine in Zaporizhia: https://twitter.com/CanadianUkrain1/status/1539936009898557441
Denazifizierung eines Kindergartens in Kiew: https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1540980764908609537


Die SS Runen, Hakenkreuze und 88 sind vermutlich nur Zufall an den russischen Uniformen...

https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1541065022742347777

Wie rechtfertigt ihr das?


 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Du halbstarker Internettroll, beruhige dich und lerne Benehmen und Anstand bevor du andere beleidigst. Im echten Leben verstecken und im Internet beleidigen - mehr habe ich nicht zu sagen zu deinen Lügen & Beleidigungen.
Könntest du bitte aufhören, Newbies im Forum zu diffamieren?
Du wurdest völlig zurecht kritisiert für deine kriegsverharmlosenden Beschönigungen!



Irgendwie vermehren sich diese Newbie Accounts die aggressiv und beleidigend sind wie Parasiten im deutschen Bereich, sollte man eventuell mal tatsächlich theymos melden.
Du kannst wohl einfach nicht damit leben, dass deine Trollposts zunehmend auf Widerstand stoßen, weil nicht jeder so ein Kriegsverharmloser ist, wie du es bist!
Es ist schlimm genug, dass du das Forum für deine perfide Agenda missbrauchst aber dass du jetzt andere Nutzer diffamierst, die dich dafür kritisieren, schlägt dem Fass wirklich den Boden aus!



Ich habe bereits eine Liste von allen verdächtigen Accounts - mache ich demnächst mal wirklich.
Viel Spaß dabei!
Alles ist arrangiert, dass wir dann gleichzeitig einen Beitrag bringen werden, der deine diversen Verfehlungen in den letzen Monaten thematisiert.
Mit deinem nicht vorhandenen Wissen über DT dürfte das sehr ernüchternd für dich werden!
Nestade kann bezeugen, dass dieser Beitrag wirklich gut geworden ist.   Wink
2976  Local / Off-Topic (Deutsch) / Re: Deutsche Fehlerkultur on: June 26, 2022, 03:52:01 PM

Das ist barbarisch und du unterstützt das mit deinen Verharmlosungen.

Ich unterstütze überhaupt nichts. Weder Putin, noch diesen Krieg.
Wenn man deine Beitäge so anschaut, fällt es für den geneigten Leser schwer, diese Aussage von dir nachzuvollziehen.
Weil es kommen von dir 90% übelste Verharmlosungen, whataboutism und was weiß ich noch.
Der Rest sind Diffamierungen gegen mich.  Roll Eyes

Wobei wir von dir in letzter Zeit mehr Diffamierungen gegen mich sehen.
Habe ich da etwa einen wunden Punkt bei dir getroffen?  Cheesy



Ich unterstütze die ukrainische Bevölkerung mit den mir vorhanden Möglichkeiten.
Mit deinen Beiträgen erreichst du allerdings das Gegenteil, nämlich die Verharmlosung der russischen Aggression.



Aber ich unterstütze eben auch keine Hetze und keine Volksverhetzung.
Komisch, ich habe noch keine Verurteilung von dir gesehen, weil Putin die ukrainische Kultur ausradieren möchte was er bisher sogar in bereits besetzten Städten getan hat...



Bei dir sind mittlerweile sämtliche Vorhänge gefallen, die Grenzen total verschwommen.
Sagt derjenige, dem keine Verharmlosung zu schade ist, um sie hier nicht zu streuen.  Roll Eyes



Wenn du auch nur einen Funken Anstand und halbwegs Verstand hättest, würdest du hier versuchen mit den Foristen ins Gespräch zu kommen und die Differenzen zu beseitigen.
Mache ich laufend, indem ich dir den Spiegel vorhalte, wie menschenverachtend deine Beiträge mittlerweile sind!
Da kann ich mir vorstellen, dass es dir unangenehm ist, weil es aufzeigt, in welche Richtung du hier permanent argumentierst!
Deine perfide Agenda wurde durchschaut! Schon lange!



Mir ist aus dem Deutschen Board kein einziger User bekannt, der "Kremlin Propaganda" betreibt oder den Krieg unterstützt. Das sind alles mit deine Erfindungen.
Da hast du offenbar seit Ende Februar 2022 die Beiträge in diesem Forum nicht gelesen.
Und vergessen, was du selbst so abgesondert hast!



Ich kopiere dir mal den Artikel hier rein - LESEN!

https://taz.de/Nationalistische-Feier-in-Moskau/!5842594/

Ja danke, LESEN kann ich.
Und nun. Was willst du mir damit sagen?
Weder war ich auf dieser Veranstaltung, noch unterstütze ich sowas.

Fällt dir wirklich sonst nichts mehr ein?
Habe ich behauptet, dass du dort warst?!

Wie wäre es mal mit offener Kritik an dem Bullshit? Kommt da noch was?



Hätte mich auch gewundert, wenn du mir nicht irgendwann auch noch "Kremlin Propaganda" und Putin Support untergejubelt hättest. Viel hast du ja nicht im Repertoire. Wenn dir nichts mehr einfällt, gibt's nen Kremlin Trust.
Viel mehr bringst du ja auch nicht zustande im Forum.  Cheesy



Aufrechte und anständige Menschen verstecken sich nicht hinter ihrer Anonymität im Netz und hetzen und verleumden.
Da hast du dich passend selbst beschrieben.
Nur die Kriegsverharmlosung musst du noch erwähnen.  Wink
2977  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: [Diskussion] - [AVAX] NEW Metastable Consensus Protocol Family on: June 26, 2022, 02:10:30 PM
Ich sehe es wie Lakai01. Browser Extension hörts sich zwar nicht so spektakulär an, sieht man aber die ganzen News dazu, steckt da "anscheinend" schon ne "Menge Tech" drin. Ich habe es mir noch nicht angesehen, aber wenn ich z.B. Metamask mit anderen Wallets vergleiche, dann finde ich Metamask super Cheesy
Ja, es ist definitiv super, dass Avalanche nun MetaMask etwas eigenes entgegensetzen kann, keine Frage.
MetaMask ist ja eine echte Größe mittlerweile, die, falls sie ihren eigenen Token / Coin auflegen, mindestens auf Augenhöhe mit Uniswap liegen würden.


wo wir uns denke ich einig sind ist, dass eine verbesserung zur bisherigen web wallet nicht schwierig und längst überfällig war,
Wobei ich eigentlich nie Probleme mit dem Web-Wallet hatte.
Klar, es war von der Oberfläche etwas gewöhnungsbedürftig aber wir sind ja Bitcointalk gewohnt, von daher empfand ich das bisherige Web-Wallet schon als einigermaßen gute Lösung.  Cheesy

Die neue Wallet ist aber durchaus etwas, von dem Avalanche im nächsten Bullenmarkt profitieren könnte.  Smiley
2978  Local / Off-Topic (Deutsch) / Re: Deutsche Fehlerkultur on: June 26, 2022, 01:33:47 PM
Das ist die letzte Minute (da gibt es mittlerweile einige vom vor allem OffTopic Bereich) die ich mir nehme für einen Forums-OffTopic-Wicht der nicht Sinnerfassend lesen kann und rassistische Ausdrücke verwendet die er wider zu Recht korrigiert. Thandie hat geschrieben er würde "FREUNDEN/BEKANNTEN" helfen in Russland die in Not sind (sollte ich dort jemand kennen warum auch nicht, das gleiche mit Ukrainer) und nicht irgendwelchen Putin Trollen, weil er hat auch geschrieben egal welche Gesinnung. Das heißt wir wissen es nicht ob PRO oder CONTRA Putin, du solltest in der Hitze (oder ist es schon Hass?) einmal mit deinen Anfeindungen gegen das gesamte Russische Volk einmal Pause machen.

Du hast es auf den Punkt gebracht. Aber die allermeisten Leute hier im Forum sind intelligent genug, um diesen billigen Versuch der Wortverdrehungen und der Falschaussagen als das zu entlarven, was es ist. Hetze.


On-Topic "Fehlerkultur"

1miau verwendet ganz ungeniert rassistisch inspirierte Begriffe, was schon an Volksverhetzung grenzt.
Ich habe wirklich schon einige Widerlinge in diesem Forum gesehen aber du, s0nix, bist ganz vorne bei diesen Widerlingen dabei und schickst dich an, mit deinen widerlichen Verharmlosungen und deiner heuchlerischen Hetze alles zu überbieten!
Dein von üblen Diffamierungen durchseuchter Beitrag ist auf ganzer Linie entlarvend, wo du in diesem Krieg stehst!
Nicht ein Hauch von Reflektion, was du hier schreibst!
Stattdessen astreine Russenpropaganda, dass einem schlecht wird!
Du solltest in die Ostukraine reisen und dort schauen, was die Russenschweine anrichten: sie zerbomben alles, was ihnen im Weg steht, nehmen keinerlei Rücksicht auf irgendwelche zivile Infrastruktur.
Sie hinterlassen nichts als Leid und das nur wegen irgendwelchen geschichtsfälschenden Bullshit, den der Spinner im Kreml proklamiert.
Das wird daheim beklatscht, das wird unterstützt, und so wird weiter gemordet.
Ja, das sind Schweine!

Das ist barbarisch und du unterstützt das mit deinen Verharmlosungen.

Merkst du überhaupt noch irgendwas?

Ich kopiere dir mal den Artikel hier rein - LESEN!

Quote
Nationalistische Feier in Moskau - Schlager, Putin, „Russland!“-Rufe

Mit einer großen Feier begeht Russlands Präsident Putin den Jahrestag der Annexion der Krim. Russische Staatsbedienstete müssen teilnehmen.

MOSKAU taz | Es ist eine ideologische Euphorieshow, die sich an diesem Freitagnachmittag im Moskauer Luschniki-Stadion vollzieht. Busweise werden Menschen mit der russischen Trikolore angekarrt, manche von ihnen müssen ihre Teilnahme den Vorgesetzten melden. Mit Unterschrift und Adresse, mit Bildern vom Ort des Geschehens. Leh­rer*in­nen, Student*in­nen, Angestellte im öffentlichen Dienst nehmen an der Veranstaltung teil, die in Russland unter dem euphemistischen Begriff „Krim-Frühling“ läuft, ein Feiertag. Es ist eine staatlich angeordnete Maßnahme. Nicht alle kommen freiwillig, manche unterschreiben und laufen schnell wieder weg.
Vor acht Jahren wurde die von Russland annektierte ukrainische Halbinsel Krim zum russischen Föderationssubjekt erklärt. „Eingegliedert“, heißt es im Russischen. „Zurückgekehrt in den Heimathafen“, sagen die glühendsten An­hän­ge­r*in­nen der völkerrechtswidrigen Einverleibung.
Im Zuge der sogenannten militärischen Spezialoperation, wie Russland seinen Feldzug gegen die Ukraine derzeit nennt, instrumentalisiert das Regime den Jahrestag, um seine Parolen für Frieden und Menschenrechte unters Volk zu bringen. Es macht es auf eine perfide Weise, indem es jeden Begriff – Liebe, Frieden, Freundschaft – völlig umwertet.
Die Schlacht um die Ukraine wird als Schlacht gegen den Nazismus verkauft. Untermalt mit dem lateinischen Buchstaben „Z“, der eine Art neue Swastika geworden ist. Selbst Kindergartenkinder müssen Tänze in Z-Formationen aufführen, sie malen den Buchstaben in den Farben der russischen Trikolore auf, sagen Gedichte über die „Heldentaten“ der russischen Armee auf. Nicht alle Eltern sehen darin einen Missbrauch ihrer Kinder.
Plötzlich unterbricht die Übertragung
„Solch eine Einheit hatten wir schon lange nicht“, sagt der russische Präsident Wladimir Putin, als er im Luschniki-Stadion auftritt – und plötzlich verstummt. Nicht einmal drei Minuten dauert seine Rede, in der er nochmals wiederholt, was er in den vergangenen Tagen wie ein Mantra von sich gibt. Die „Spezialoperation“ verlaufe „erfolgreich“, „nach Plan“ und werde ihre „Ziele“ erreichen.
Die Übertragung – jeder russischer Staatssender zeigt seinen Auftritt – unterbricht mitten im Satz, die Regie sendet Bilder patriotischer Schlager aus dem vergangenen Jahr. Die Rus­s*in­nen am Fernsehen rätseln. Der Kremlsprecher Dmitri Peskow klärt wenig später auf: ein Serverproblem.
Der Erste Kanal sendet schließlich Putins Auftritt noch einmal, in dem er auf einen heiliggesprochenen Admiral verweist. Keine einzige Schlacht habe der Mann verloren. „Alle Gewitter führen zum Ruhme Russlands“ soll er laut Putin gesagt haben. „So war es damals, so ist es heute, so wird es immer sein.“ Das sagte nicht der Admiral, das sagt Putin. Die Menschen jubeln und brüllen: „Russland, Russland!“
https://taz.de/Nationalistische-Feier-in-Moskau/!5842594/

Erinnerung, du verteidigst das hier mit deinen fehlgeleiteten Schwurbelposts!

Eine ungeheuerliche Schade ist das!

Mich, der das kritisiert, greifst du stattdessen frontal an!
Das muss man sich einmal vorstellen!
Die Partei, die mordet wird von dir verteidigt und die Partei, die es kritisiert, wird von dir aufs übelste diffamiert. Andersrum muss das sein!
Dein moralischer Kompass ist komplett daneben!

Du bist ein dreckiger Hund, der keinerlei Anstand hat und die Kriegsopfer aufs übelste verhöhnt.

Gerne kannst du deine Schmutzthesen den Klitschkobrüdern erzählen, vielleicht bekommst du dann wenigstens ordentlich eine runtergehauen, was dich wieder zu Verstand bringen könnte!
Ob das allerdings bei deinem geistig verwirrten Zustand noch möglich ist, kann ich nicht einschätzen.
Ich fürchte, es ist nicht mehr möglich bei dir!

Wie können Heuchler wie du, die so offen einen Angriffskrieg verharmlosen überhaupt noch in den Spiegel schauen, ohne kotzen zu müssen?

Du solltest dich in Grund und Boden schämen!



Und damit ist es Zeit für einen neutralen Trust, den ich dir hätte viel früher geben sollen!  Lips sealed
2979  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: List of interesting Bitcoin statistics on: June 25, 2022, 10:31:38 PM
You know more high-quality statistic sites for Bitcoin?
Feel free to mention them, post some pictures and if your suggestins are good, they will be added to my list
What about this 1miau, can it make your list as a high-quality statistics site: https://www.blockchain.com/charts
Information like Currency statistics, block details, Mempool size, total circulating bitcoin, mining information, etc can be gotten in the website, i think it is a very useful one, you can check it out yourself before adding it.
Of course, I'll include it in my list.
Not sure, how I missed it in my original compilation.  Cheesy

You can add this one too, for statistics on the current state of the mempool and estimation of transaction fees:
https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#0,1w
Jochen Hoenicke's Mempool is already included as number 6.1 (Mempools) in my list.  Smiley
2980  Local / Off-Topic (Deutsch) / Re: Corona on: June 25, 2022, 10:08:44 PM
Das Problem im Off-topic Bereich ist, dass viele (eher Pro-Corona) nicht akzeptieren können, dass es differenzierte Meinungen gibt und selbst die Wissenschaft untereinander immer noch diskutiert und beinahe wöchentlich neue Erkenntnisse gewinnt.
Das Problem ist, dass manche Schwurbler halbgare und schlampig recherchierte Vermutungen als "Erkenntnisse" präsentieren und unwissenschaftliche, oft bereits widerlegte Falschaussagen als "Fakten" darstellen! Manchmal werden sogar komplett faktenbefreite Verschwörungstheorien mit eingestreut, was natürlich niemandem hilft (außer, dass die Schwurbler den Faden entgleisen lassen können!)
Und das machen sie jeden Tag, jede Woche, jeden Monat immer wieder der gleiche Müll!
Wenn das dann kritisiert wird, fühlen sich die Schwurbler ertappt und unterstellen der Gegenseite "Zensur", "Unterdrückung" oder "Abschaffung der Meinungsfreiheit".  Roll Eyes

Und nein, über manche Dinge diskutiert die Wissenschaft nicht mehr, wer das suggeriert, versucht bloß, seine Geschichtsfälschungen anderen andrehen zu wollen.
Dass es eine massive Übersterblichkeit gab, dass Corona mehr als eine normale Grippe ist, das ist erwiesen und wird von seriösen Wissenschaftlern nicht mehr in Frage gestellt.
Es wurde selbst bereits Mitte 2020 von jedem seriösen Wissenschaftler nicht mehr in Frage gestellt.



Daraus resultiert eben dieser heftige Streit wobei mein Lager weder jemanden beleidigt noch diskreditiert.
Du diskreditierst fast die gesamte Wissenschaft, außer deinen Schwurblern.
Du diskreditierst die 80%+, die sich impfen lassen haben.
Und vor allem trägst du mit deinem Egoismus dazu bei, dass sich mehr Leute Infizieren, sich nicht impfen lassen und daher eher sterben.
Du füllst die Intensivstationen mit Coronapatienten und belastest daher dort das Personal.



Wäre das Niveau durch bestimmte User nicht abgrundtief gesunken hätte es nie den Bedarf gegeben diesen Bereich zu schließen. Leider ist das aber mittlerweile gesellschaftlich völlig normalisiert, dass es die eine Wahrheit geben muss und alles andere ist falsch und alle anderen sind Gegner, Feinde und Verschwörungstheoretiker.
Du warst derjenige, der stets seine steilen Thesen raushaut, ohne je dafür Belege zu liefern, weil sonst hätte jeder gesehen, dass dein Geschwurbel nicht haltbar ist!



Die Anfeindungen gegenüber meiner Person haben auch nur angefangen, weil ich vor langer Zeit lediglich darum gebeten habe, dass sich beide Lager etwas mehr beruhigen sollen, miteinander besser umgehen sollen - wir sind alle Freunde (gewesen) und debattieren ist grundsätzlich etwas schönes, jedoch sachlich und freundschaftlich. Wer nicht auf eine liebe, nette und freundschaftliche Art und Weise diskutieren kann sollte sich aus diesem Bereich heraushalten.
Du hattest mit deinen dubiosen Quellen herumgeschwurbelt:

Ich sage nur soviel dazu, ich habe sehr zuverlässige interne Quellen und die Zahlen & Fakten die wir öffentlich mitgeteilt bekommen haben mit den realen Zahlen & Fakten nichts zu tun.
Um was für eine interne Quelle handelt es sich denn und wie erklärt diese die falschen Zahlen/Fakten?


Und wolltest dann aufhören mit dem Geschwurbel:
Das war´s von mir zu dem Thema, entschuldigt mich für dafür, dass ich meinen Senf abgegeben habe und mich nicht an der Diskussion beteiligen möchte  Smiley
Aber ab da fing dein unausgegorener Auftritt erst an!



Ich finde es echt Schade in welche Richtung unsere deutsche Community sich entwickelt hat, es war jedoch absehbar und die Fehler überwiegen auf der gegenüberliegenden Seite
Dann höre doch endlich auf, das Forum für deine höchst tendenziösen Darstellungen zu missbrauchen.
Es ist ja nicht nur das: Shitpostingexzesse und jeder, der es anspricht, wird von dir diffamiert!
Du missbrauchst den postitven Trust und nach PM kommt null Einsicht.
Du ignorierst die Forenregeln mit deinen Pyramiden- und Trollposts und verteilst sie überall im Forum.



In meinem Schreiben über den Leiter einer medizinischen Universität war der medizinische Leiter der medizinischen Universität Wien gemeint - eine Ausbildungsstätte für einen sehr großen Teil unserer bestehenden und zukünftigen Mediziner und dieser Leiter war mehrere Jahre beschäftigt - ein renommierter Mediziner der aufgrund seiner kritischen Haltung gegenüber der Maßnahmen seine Position verloren hat - die er jahrelang tadellos ausgeführt hat - so schaut‘s aus und nicht anders und wie soll man da nicht skeptisch werden?
Personal, welches die Gefahren einer Pandemie verharmlost, will halt niemand haben.
Würde ich auch nicht wollen!
Würde niemand wollen, der nicht falsch behandelt werden will!



Durch die wirtschaftliche Situation hat man mittlerweile vergessen, dass es Corona gab.
Die Meinung hast du exklusiv. Die Zahlen sind so hoch wie noch nie seit Aufhebung der Maßnahmen und vermutlich sind die Zahlen in der Realität eh viel höher.
Ich kenne durchaus ein paar Leute, die in Krankenhäusern zu tun haben und dort fällt so viel Personal durch Infektionen aus, dass es nicht lustig ist!



Ich habe nie die Absonderungen kritisiert, sehr wohl aber die Ungerechtigkeiten gegenüber den Ungeimpften und heute hat man alles vergessen und will so langsam Corona aus den Gedanken verdrängen. Übrig geblieben ist uns eine zerrissene Gesellschaft weltweit und ein Haufen unnötiger zusätzlicher Schulden und psychischer und physischer Erkrankungen.
Da ist sie wieder, eine astreine Schwurbelaussage, die komplett irgnoriert, dass Corona eine Pandemie ist, dass vor allem 2020 noch unter den tödlicheren Coronavarianten eine extreme Übersterblichkciet vorherrschte und die aktuellen Zahlen ohne Impfung deutlich schlechter wären und vor allem viel mehr Leute schwere / tödliche Verläufe hätten.
Und dann beschuldigst du uns, wir wären die Schuldigen, wenn du immer deinen Quatsch hier Tag für Tag neu aufwärmst?

Bitte!
Da muss man doch mal realistisch sein!
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