In CryptoNote, your secret key is essentially just a very, very large number x
(for other considerations, see section 4.3.3, we choose x to be a multiple of 8 ).
There is a special point G on the curve ed25519 called “the base point” of the curve
which is used as the starting point to get xG. Your public key is just xG, and
you are protected by the above problem from someone using known information to
determine the private key. from the latest MRL  Some of the discussions had been drifting into differentiating "on chain security" what is like that above, opposing "off chain security" which some proclaim to be the only really secure variant. People bringing up that argument usually tend to conceal any thoughts on combining both concepts. |
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Natürlich, in Menge kriegt man alles billiger.
Das hat eher was mit Beschiss zu tun, als mit Menge. |
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So where does one go if they want discuss marketing strategy?
This thread is fine for discussion/planning. But let's wait to put the plans into action until the dev team gives us the green light. Don't be ridiculous. Monero always drives with pulled parking brake. Always squealing noises and smoke. |
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Ich hoffe du hast das mit anderen Coins als BTC vor, sonst freut sich dein Stromanbieter. Das tut er ohnehin beim Mining aber so hast du rein garnichts davon.
Was ich so sehe ist Bitcoin Mining auch mit echten Minern im Moment alles andere als "rentabel"
Neulich so in den Nachrichten: Der Strompreis für private Haushalte hat sich in den vergangenen rund 14 Jahren fast verdoppelt. Nach Angaben des Statistischen Bundesamtes stieg der Preis von Januar 2000 bis August 2014 um 92 Prozent.
Die Verbraucher profitieren demnach nicht von den seit knapp sechs Jahren sinkenden Großhandelspreisen für Strom. Stadtwerke und Energieversorger mussten den Daten zufolge im August 2014 rund vierzehn Prozent weniger für Strom bezahlen als im Januar 2000. |
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Wie kommst du auf diese Idee denn? Kannst du das irgendwie belegen oder ist das nur eine diffamierende Behauptung?
Ist ein long-con. Bis zum Start der ZC Geschichte kannst du damit handeln. Ab dem 15. gebe ich aber keine Garantie mehr, dann ist das MHD abgelaufen. Ideal geht man da am 15. -X raus, je nach Risikobedürfnis. Ist seit meinem Posting von 0.0015 auf 0.00248156 raufgegangen, knappe 65%. Ihr erinnert euch hoffentlich daran, rechtzeitig zu verkaufen? Es ist halt ein Scam, die Diskussion über Darknet Mining Pools irgendwo hidden im Darknet sollten doch Hint genuchsein. |
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Symfony\Component\Debug\Exception\FatalErrorException thrown with message "Class 'Roumen\Feed\FeedServiceProvider' not found"
Stacktrace:
#1 Symfony\Component\Debug\Exception\FatalErrorException in /var/www/forum.monero.cc/webroot/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/ProviderRepository.php:157
#0 Illuminate\Exception\Handler:handleShutdown in <#unknown>:0
from fluffypony on IRC: <fluffypony> yesh
<fluffypony> just updating
<fluffypony> 20 seconds mebbe he meant 20 minutes... hooves... maybe bigger keycaps are of any aid? |
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Where is the best place to find a useful and updated discussion on darknote?
Err ... this here is ... up to date. And contains some suitable sailor's language, so for the cultural experience very recommendable  |
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Sometimes it's good to do primary research. The thing I took for granted - that altcoins are shattered when BTC sneezes - has proven to be a myth of highest order: ...What do you think of this?  Feathercoin is a temporary miracle. That pennystocks do better in times of carnage ... hmyes, but only as a trampoline for hours at most. More a nothing left to loose thing. Exspecting that to falter soonest. Peercoin was always a top marketcap Altcoin with innovation, and there recently has been some more movement out there. They do deliver. XMR usually never delivers, but let's place that on "delayed, pending". They make a good job on surviving recently. Was woundering if opensource code of other CN coins could get included there. For database stuff, perhaps. Well since I published this, XMR is creeping up... Clearly "oversold" if such a term exists. The slingback is due once BTC just stops sneezing for a day. |
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People will run from any coin anyway, if the coin cant be used in "daily life". Hashrate drops doesnt matter that much. From my point of view, emission curve, hashrate, transaction fees, etc are not the pressing problem. The real problem is the acceptance of Monero by "the guy on the street". Without mobil wallet, more exchanges (xmr <-> fiat) and so on, there is no future for any coin. XMR (and, e.g., BBR too) must aim for the user experience now -- which includes not to cause another level of uncertainty by changing the already running system.
Just you cannot trust a mobile wallet anymore, it is most safely stored away in your fridge. Otherwise even it's microphone will be abused to spy on you. So how secure are your coins on it? "The Fappening" opened my eyes (not only for the girls) |
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Oh well, butthurt makes a lot of people leave. It's usually from their own mistakes.
On a side note: Can I get 10,000 bitcoins for christmas? I've been a good boy, sort of. lol
Collect 10$ bills each week. Eleven weeks left, that could fit on 10k BTC at christmas pricing. The expectation of the poster above was: BTC will go up. Moonish, so to say. Today it is: Will go down. And that is the trouble, a downwards spiral where market expectations make it look rationale to sell all BTC as a smart move. You can always buy back lower. What sounds smart for the single market participant, selling earlier for a higher price then people following a second late, is lethal for the whole currency. From this projection, the "ideal buying price" is ZERO. Just from that point onwards it is difficult to regain a value above ZERO, ever again. Since each and every Pennystock can literally outperform Bitcoin with just some feature, may it speed or blockchain download time or just anything, that Bitcoin does not offer so far. Tuff days. |
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Variable Blocktime adjusting to demand/transfers with leveraging emission ... intriguing! And I am totally aware that us technical noobs mindstorming on things like that will cause the goosebumps on hardcore developper's skins out there  sorry! |
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I say, double the total amount, cut the emission by 75%, increase the block time to 2 minutes, change the name to rune, change to POS, do hard fork, air drop, time warp and make double spends mandatory.
Something for everyone.
Oh, and change r and k for TheFracturedMind.
Increased block time could tackle the bloat issue? Perhaps worth a thought. Just BTX's time warp seem to be postphoned now. I'm okay with changing to POS. Goes well along with changing mining emission rates. |
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I do like the tech that you're implementing. I actually just bought a few 100k when price hit 29 satoshi on Polo, but I'm very skeptical of the assertion that the coin is as broadly distributed as you say, and also the claim that it had one of the most fair launches of any cryptocurrency.
So jwinterm, Jayjay04, Digithusiast and me bought in big today. Let's see where this goes. Anything but Bitcoin will survive. |
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I think the above will also result in more merchants start to accept bitcoin which will lead to more short term price declines. However over the long term it will lead to more people adapting bitcoin and using it on a regular basis which will cause long term price increases.
For broad acception a low price is advantageous, or does anybody out here is buying grocery using gold bars? Even seen two long term forum users shying back from a bet over 0.1 BTC since the wager would have to be over some several weeks and nobody would know the value of the wager. This uncertainity was enough to step down from doing so. |
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Just a bloody period for all crypto over the last couple of months.
Still trying to do work on indexing, but I have a record of coinmarketcap showing total crypto cap at $8.6 billion on August 4th.
Just two months later, we're at $4.6 billion for a whopping 46.5% slide. Not a lot of hiding places.
Total Market Cap: $ 4,639,741,579 Last updated: Oct 05, 2014 3:30 PM UTC 24h change -9.28 % for the top three, some doing as worse as -18.60 % (XMR). No hiding place anywhere, with the exception of "BitShares PTS" but that is a small one. That is the mess, now where is the reason? Is it: 1) Satoshi got hacked, the email adress popped up recently, his Bitcoins get dumped. Since all Altcoins reference their trade value on that, going down in flames too. Should be visible inside Blockchain analysis. 2) Some other party sells on a grand scale. I remember there had been huge reserves inside Silkroad and MtGox. Traceable. 3) People distrust information technology now since the Snowden incident, so they sell (many small private holdings) 4) The other reason, it is not to many sells but lack of buying support. Should be visible in comparing the Orderbooks with history data (which I do lack) 5) Generall lack of interest since private people cannot mine Bitcoins anymore on their desktops. Duh, difficult one ... Difficulty is still high. But how to know where the Hashrate originates from? edit: 6) self fullfilling prophecy taking place outside of the Altcoins. BTC gets sold because the price dips, with the intention of buying back in on a cheaper value. Hence the price dips further. This starteded 2~3 days ago |
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"Craptsy" has graduated to Cryptsy over here now? Times are changing, memories are fading. As an elephant graveyard it suits enough |
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Du meinst bestimmt Outlaw Market unter TOR? Ein Ableger von Silk Road. Allerdings nicht mit Online Wallet sondern Direktbezahlung.... sagt man... Das ist nicht der Markt. Frage mal im Bekanntenkreis wieviele Produkte die aus einem solchen Sortiment online gekauft haben in den letzten Jahren. Antwort ist: Null. Auch hat nicht jeder von uns Ware in dem Segment zu veräußern. Es sei denn, jemand arbeitet in dieser Exportbranche aber dann gehen alle Händel für Fiat-Bargeld über den Tresen, direkt in die Krisengebiete wo der Kunde wartet. Ein Gamechanger wäre ein Ebay für alles mögliche als Versandhandel. Aber dann haben wir wieder das mit dem Pakete öffnen wie früher in der DDR. |
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If it did, it was by forum mods, not us. This is not a self-moderated thread.
I know. They had been advertising a different forum. Not that much XMR related. This statement is contradicting myself, since I would not mind a dedicated Monero forum. New coin, new social environment. |
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