The volume from exchanges charging 0% transaction fee does not count.
Why do you think so? Don't they have an impact on the price like all the other exchanges? Some (maybe most) trades are done by the exchange itself to bloat the volume. Some (maybe most) trades are done by the exchange itself to bloat the volume AND it doesn't matter if they pay fees for doing so ... to themselfes! Here's the part with the logic, you missed that one out. So if >xy% of all trades are done in country Z, that means that most of the trade happens there, not elsewhere. I think they have that ASIC mining monopoly, too. |
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Sell me all your BTC then for $300 each. Thanks
I sold higher! Bad offer. Well perhaps for next weeks it will turn into a good offer. |
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Ist das der Tipping Point? Eine meiner Vorhersagen war ja, das die Difficulty niemals nicht stagnieren dürfte. Eine Seitwärtsbewegung hatte es aber auch schon July/August gegeben. Ich hatte noch rechtzeitig alle meine Miningshares verscheuert, die sind heute auf knapp 50% ihres Wertes gelandet.  |
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But it's not the tipping point after which it grows exponentially, no. It's the tipping point where people start fleeing it en masse to other technologies and undervalued cryptos. After all, why would you buy Bitcoin if you can buy something cheaper, which does the same, or even better - if you can buy something cheaper which does the same and then a few other things. Bitcoin was the bootstrapping crypto, now is the time for other technologies to take its place. It won't happen overnight, but the process has begun.
Agreed. I also think the tipping point has been reached or at least will be reached in the very near future. A lot of people will most certainly call me crazy, but Bitcoin is dead to me.
I said that quite a while ago when Bitcoin was near high in November last year and I was ridiculed and laughed at by some of these people in a meetup. Perhaps their minds are too simple.
Bitcoin will see its last days. Maybe not tomorrow, but definitely before the end of the decade. The irony is, everyone is talking about bitcoin! We have banks, we have businesses, we have giant companies wanting to jump in the bandwagon and we have miners putting in 10s of millions of serious money into mining these coins. And no one can see the obvious storm that is looming ahead. Are they blind?
It is dead in germany, too. The ATM in Bochum just failed, will go onto the junkpile soon (partially due to their own fault implementing too much surveilance technology into the ATM, which features a fingerprint sensor. This is totally uncommon for each and every other terminal out there. None have that.) |
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Oh nein. Bereits aufgegeben? Schade, obwohl verständlich.
Ruf doch mal einer den Digitalkommissar auf den Rettungsplan  der ist doch jetzt zuständig für neue Technologien. |
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Wie kommst du auf diese Idee denn? Kannst du das irgendwie belegen oder ist das nur eine diffamierende Behauptung?
Ist ein long-con. Bis zum Start der ZC Geschichte kannst du damit handeln. Ab dem 15. gebe ich aber keine Garantie mehr, dann ist das MHD abgelaufen. Ideal geht man da am 15. -X raus, je nach Risikobedürfnis. |
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Fingerprint ist jetzt nicht so der Hit. Einfach so im Vergleich zu all den anderen Automaten. Mit Fingerprintsensoren an Zigarettenautomaten könnte man sogar Rauchern das qualmen abgewöhnen  Das bezweifle ich. Ich habe eher den Eindruck, dass es der Generation Y + Z eine Art Befriedigung verschafft, wenn sie ihre Fingerchen irgendwo aufdrücken können - vorzugsweise auf was Kaltes und Hartes. Das hatte schon Andrew Niccol 1997 in der "American science fiction dystopy" Gattaca geschildert, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gattacain einer auf http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenik basierenden Gesellschaft gibt es an Kontrollpunkten so Fingerauflagen die dann mit einer Nadel in die Hand picksen um etwas Blut abzusaugen. Also wie iPhone, aber man blutet nicht beim Kauf sondern beim Daumenabdruck. Das erweckt zuert den erschreckenden Eindruck ein Zukunftsgesellschaft, die scheinbar komplett Zucker krank sein müsste. Aber die Gentests mit den Blutstropfen werden in Niccol's Dystopie als Diskriminierungsmerkmal benutzt um Gesellschaftsschichten einzuteilen. |
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Fingerprint ist jetzt nicht so der Hit. Einfach so im Vergleich zu all den anderen Automaten. Mit Fingerprintsensoren an Zigarettenautomaten könnte man sogar Rauchern das qualmen abgewöhnen Alternativlos ist das aber nicht, es ginge ja auch eine Scheckkarte als Speichel-Test, die dann mit Spucke auf den Bildschirm geklebt werden muss.
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Für die SPD-Bundestagsfraktion steht aber fest: Verbraucherschutz und Finanzaufsicht müssen gewährleistet sein. SPD, oje. Kann das nicht irgendjemand anders machen? Irgendwer? Hallo? Aber na gut, Werbung ist es allemal. Ich hoffe ja auf zwei Ereignisse. Hongkong, da rappelts im Finanzdistrikt, die sehen mir alle wie potentielle Kundschaft aus. Dann wir hier, ATM in Bochum und Panel im Bundestag sind doch super Nachrichten! |
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... und du als Gründer hast immer 10-30% von allem (2-6 Mio Bitcoins).
Nicht, wenn wir uns entscheiden, die Unspent Generation TX Coins der ersten paar 100k Blöcke zu streichen, um Verwerfungen durch einen Hack der Satoshi Mined Coins vorzubeugen. Hmm, so als Vertrauensbildende Maßnahme? Damit sich alle Anleger sicher fühlen? Dann sag aber vorher Bescheid, damit ich noch rechtzeitig Litecoins kaufen kann vor dem Crash. Wenn da mit ein paar Mausklicks 10-30% von allem (2-6 Mio Bitcoins) für illegal deklariert werden, war's das. |
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If it can be hacked, cheated, or manipulated it must be done. Don't know what, if anything BCX was trying to point out. But this is the burden that comes along with new frontiers. If ya can't hold, best get off the ride now.  Will somebody clarify the mining exploit found. What % what miners disadvantaged and what pools were involved? would have shown, but coincidentaly ... offline. Any newer service charting total network Hashrate? Basically watch the drop in Hashrate once the pools applied the patch. Easy. Is 20957 khs now and was same order of magnitude days ago. |
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Moin Zusammen, so hab auch wiedermal bisl Zeit zum Traden und Coins die ich vermehren will, da der BTC bei all den guten Meldungen sich immer noch im Keller rumschleicht, suche ich einen anständigen Pump Coin Irgendwelche Tipps zu einem Coin? und welcher Exchange hat gutes Volumen  Danke für die Antworten  Hier alle Exchanger gelistet http://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/volume/24-hour/ und alles was da als zweite Coin gelistet wird geht meist auch gut. Cryptsy beispielsweise viel Handel mit Dogecoin, gleich dahinter Darkcoin <- da auf Kurs schauen. Cryptsy & Bittrex machen zusammen etwa soviel wie BTC-E alleine schafft, aber in Altcoins. Der Markt der Altcoins hängt bis heute leider noch immer am Tropf vom großen Bitcoin.
Es gibt nun erste Bewegungen , die einen Markt unabhängig von Bitcoin schaffen wollen. Dies würde zu einer Unabhängigkeit jener Alts führen und wohl auch ihren Wert im Vergleich zu anderen steigern.
Bis das diese Marktunabhängigkeit erreicht ist, heißt es nach wie vor. Bitcoin rauf - Altcoins auch rauf. Bitcoins runter und der Alt-markt geht unter!
Welche Perspektive hat denn der Bitcoin noch? Hier im Forum Miningshares kaufen bei Candoo? Erledigt. Selber minen auf der Grafikarte? Erledigt. ASICS vorbestellen bei Butterflylabs? http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Bitcoin-Mining-US-Handelsaufsicht-laesst-Butterfly-Labs-schliessen-2401747.htmlAnlegen mit Rendite bei Pirateat40? Sitzt doch auch schon im Gerichtsaal. Handeln auf MtGox? Nun hat der zwar mit Kundeneinlagen den BTC gepumpt auf Höhen, die jetzt niemals wieder erreicht werden könnten, aber das Geld ist weg. Gerichtsaal .. bald! Dreadpiratroberts? Erledigt. Entweder es wird diese Marktunabhängigkeit geben, oder. Nein, es gibt da kein oder. Das ist ein "Muss" PS: Ich schweife wieder ab. Also HOT COINS, der [ANC] Anoncoin wird Geschichte schreiben als erster Scam bei dem der Developer eine unbegrenzte Anzahl an Coins wird dumpen können, wohl so um den 15. herum. Bis dahin krabbelt der Kurs und geht rauf und noch "raufer". Ist einen Blick wert. |
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No suspicious activity has been observed other than the pool exploit that was fixed recently (and probably not related, as it has apparently be around for a while).
I am peeved by this one. Not really differenciating between a crippled miner against a cheating pool. And Monero got both of them. Will there ever be a stop on doing that? Next comes botnet mining doing most of hashrate? |
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If that isn't secure enough then what is?
Here are a few examples of strong passphrases, these are impossible to bruteforce: - u4xJU7F#E>?MZ6z{g&MrX9ePu6)yKPEcd4]8^)FJzJ28q^4Cwc
- Wm3&F,y;pFQm4GRc26Pr4tM,[4mW>Kr=$4c4X*M4BT+JtVQ2zx
- }ZL4.yph}.g4AUHPFp}n9$4H9W43EqLXN#8W6=j,4r]uWeVAaQ
- H8+D/rqrA&?cK3xw82KoWC^Z#=ptjvTaqML968TA,43B&>dQF8
- }FczoDRt*wmGJ8QL7>47BNqZ{a4c,>BQ>9VG9*p;62RH3bLaB&
Please use KeePass or 1Password to generate secure passwords like the above or use the password generator built-in the wallet. I'm using passwords like these, generated by 1Password, and I've never had issues. Again sorry for your loss mate, I know that sucks. If they rip off those types of customers first who are "at their own fault due to weakness in passphrasing" then it gives you longer security using some like the above, ... before they empty your wallet, too. Highly likely that there's something fishy here. |
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What are you laughing for? BCX had reached his goal. He had planned to bring the XMR price down with his exploit bullshit to buy in as cheaply as possible and got what he wanted.
Not at all. Oh on calling out "Bullshit" I do agree, but the daily price is 100% following Bitcoin in response. Now the question is who will sink further down, or propell up? The Litecoin effect can be observed again. Things never change. ps: ack, v0.8.8.3 is outdated |
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FUN FACT:
... having sold all Bitcoins 2 months ago at 650 US-$ instead of hodling them in nice form of a Monero Bag would have been the better bottomline. Now it's more like 388 US-$ with a strong tendency pointing downwards.
The big picture is disliked by all fractions, be it pro or contra Monero.
You are right, so it's double mistake  Yes, and yes. The last mistake was selling your stack. We have allready worked out that holding Bitcoins is no solution anymore (I assume that is because nobody mines them now anymore. Most mining Rigs have migrated onto new Altcoin algos. BTC always has been about the mining in first place) and there is a spot opening soon for a replacement. Betting all-in on XMR to jump into that gap with success is a bold move. Leverage your gambling on other base technologies. Like 20$ on the black horse (dark-aynthing), some so called 2.0 coins (I do not, just mentioning for completeness), definitely 30$ on the white horse (CryptoNote variants) and some pennies on Zerocoin/cash since that seems high risk bet. Good luck! |
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I was waiting for a 2 months, but nothing positive was happened.. Sold about 5k coins today even at this low price! Now I'm really happy! Bye bye monero!
tomorrow up +400% xd FUN FACT: ... having sold all Bitcoins 2 months ago at 650 US-$ instead of hodling them in nice form of a Monero Bag would have been the better bottomline. Now it's more like 388 US-$ with a strong tendency pointing downwards. The big picture is disliked by all fractions, be it pro or contra Monero. |
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All of that may be true, however...can we get some official word from the core team on the latest developments?
BCX is implying his TW attack is already running and having an affect on the block chain. Can we disprove that with 100% certainty?
Maybe timewarp attack will need weeks to show effects? Or decades?
He was playing for time all from the beginning. Exploits announced? One. Delivered? Zero. Then "hey let's wait and see in 72 hours" Two days later "takes 22 days to built up and THEN it is inevitable" Just wait and see, it is 100% CERTAIN that after those 22 days ... he comes up with another two weeks. Tell that to the market price.   |
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All of that may be true, however...can we get some official word from the core team on the latest developments?
BCX is implying his TW attack is already running and having an affect on the block chain. Can we disprove that with 100% certainty?
Maybe timewarp attack will need weeks to show effects? Or decades?
He was playing for time all from the beginning. Exploits announced? One. Delivered? Zero. Then "hey let's wait and see in 72 hours" Two days later "takes 22 days to built up and THEN it is inevitable" Just wait and see, it is 100% CERTAIN that after those 22 days ... he comes up with another two weeks. Could be marketing vice president of Butterfly Labs |
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There is nothing going on, he is playing with the blockchain accepting blocks from different timezones, he is a total clown
A clown, and dedicated to get his last show on stage ongoing and going and going. He knows the curtain falls for him the last time. In my culture it is custom to expect a Dernièrengag now. I assume that any applaus, if any at all, would not be for the performance itself but for the show ending at last! |
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