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2981  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: September 03, 2016, 08:14:52 PM
Well the easiest and fastest  gambling game you can play that may  give you a profit is dice of course.  But be caution that if you intend this to play a long run in a single account, there is more possibility that  you will lose all your winnings.  The best is have control of yourself in losing and winning scenario.  And the best strategy is to quit while you are winning.  And another tip is that make sure you can regain what you lost from the previous bets with your current bet and have also profit if you win

dice game does look the easiest, but it is actually very complicated game, you have to control yourself, have a good strategy, do not be too long to play. because it was too long to play always lose in the end.

Dice, as well as other casino games, have house edge, meaning you can expect to see loss over the long run, and also they are 100% random, there are no strategies to increase your chances and push your expectations into positive. The best way to make short term profit is to make one bet in dice with low payout, like 1.05x or 1.1x.

you can also try creating 10 sessions and attempt to reach your goal profit in a day playing with your system with 10 chances hitting that goal profit of the day. Because gambling is based on luck, there will be losing sessions and also winning sessions. You just calculate it and get the averages and determine if your system of betting is a winner.
2982  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Losing investment on Gambling sites on: September 03, 2016, 07:57:08 PM
since i had heared by many friends that investing money at gambling site instead of gamble is more profitable if admin of gambling site is honest & pay honestly.
yes some people has said such as that but if you were find trustworthy gambling sites to do so and i think investing at gambling sites will more safe rather than investing at cloud mining sites because usually if the particular gambling sites are pretty popular and many active players at there those sites will automatically got profit from the players and i think they will paying steady to the investors too


Indeed  way safer than investing to ponzi scam cloud mining out there. Just remember though that investing to gambling sites does not guarantee any profit at all - because there comes a time that there will really be very lucky player(s) that win big in any given time. There might also be big sharks that will play and win big amount of coins.
2983  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you like slot games ? on: September 03, 2016, 07:54:22 PM
Slot are difficult to win just like lottery but higher chance of winning.
As we can see for example if we see on Las Vegas , only few people able to win from slot game. I'm wonder how they keep exist not all people like to play it

It is true that it is really hard to win on slot games. I just don't recommend it to others nor me playing slot games. They just create colorful slot games to entice players and then get all of the losing monies of those gamblers. I would personally prefer dice games than slot games.
2984  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do Girls also gamble? on: September 03, 2016, 07:51:45 PM
There can be a small number of girls who are gambling online. In real world I at least didn't see any girl independently playing any gambling game in casino by her own. They do different works and are very active as hosts or service providers but never saw anything related to this. But I am sure there should be girls playing gambling at some scale not like men but still doing.

If you happen to get and account and play to several online casinos, you will observed that there are many girls that are indeed gambling. I can tell this by the number of girls in the chatroom - they are very active to chatrooms and are active betters also - most of them just got balls in gambling. However, there might be other guys that pretend to be girls by creating girl name account to get tip or scam older men in chatrooms.
2985  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gambling makes you cry. on: September 03, 2016, 07:47:56 PM
gambling almost made me cry tonight lol...


I had under 197.5 spurs. The game was on 197 with 12 seconds
left. The game was over... In this case NBA they just imbound the ball
dribble to half court and shake hands as the game was a big blow out.

Spurs were up like 20-30. Instead a moron from heat jacks up a 3 with the
shot clock off and hit it......

I lose instead of win  from ridiculous behavior you only see in college never
in the nba

Oh well back at it tomorrow


if you consider gambling as entertainment for fun I thought would never cry when lose.
but indeed sometimes that makes us weep not just because of the loss. but the big win that failed when very thin close to victory, it hurts

I know and can personally attest to this. There was a time that I am very close to winning 100% of my initial bankroll. When I won on the last bet, I should have doubled my bankroll but because of being greedy and wanted more, I lost all of my bankroll that day and it just feels really bad.
2986  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: September 03, 2016, 07:44:11 PM
Well the easiest and fastest  gambling game you can play that may  give you a profit is dice of course.  But be caution that if you intend this to play a long run in a single account, there is more possibility that  you will lose all your winnings.  The best is have control of yourself in losing and winning scenario.  And the best strategy is to quit while you are winning.  And another tip is that make sure you can regain what you lost from the previous bets with your current bet and have also profit if you win

dice game does look the easiest, but it is actually very complicated game, you have to control yourself, have a good strategy, do not be too long to play. because it was too long to play always lose in the end.

I would agree that dice games looks very easy to win and I know there are a number of people who also believe it this way - no wonder that there are many players to online casino dice sites. Of course, even if it looks that easy, don't get unguarded, because playing dice may lose all of your bankroll in  split of seconds when you don't know what your doing. Careful betting guys!
2987  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: September 03, 2016, 07:36:23 PM
You should try to devote the time for something more productive, something that you can also enjoy, of course. Over time you may be able to move away from gambling.

Correct, go and find that outdoor activity that you like. You are playing or gambling because for entertainment aside from profiting from it - it is the same with finding other productive things that can also entertain you and gives meaning to your life and your relationship with your loved ones and friends.
2988  Economy / Speculation / Re: Now Everyone is buying on: September 03, 2016, 07:32:49 PM
It looks like everyone and their grandma's are SELLING!!! From CNY 3874 to CNY 3774 within the last hour.
There is literally any news to back up this selling frenzy. It is not nothing but market being ambiguous.
I suspect it is because there is strong Ether pump going right now. But BTC price won't drop below $550 this is current floor. And soon it will jump to $600.

What strong Ether pump are you talking about? I don't see any of the Ether coins get pumped at all. They are just moving like they are always doing.
Yes. Some people just tend to make these weird assumptions when BTC seems like it is dropping or being dumped.
Just another average daw for bitcoin IMO. I know bitcoin will easily be sitting steady towards $600 by end of this year. Even $1000 also will be possible based on supporting incidents like US election and China economy reforming.

We don't really have to worry investing to bitcoins whether in its low and high price because bitcoin is established and all has a very big potential because of the concept and its features. There are also many people using and are benefiting from bitcoin - not to mention big investors investing to bitcoins. I mean, it is all good to invest in bitcoins. Lastly, all of the other cryptocurrencies tend to be bought and exchange through bitcoin - which signals that bitcoin in the king of cryptocurrencies.
2989  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: September 03, 2016, 07:26:57 PM
Banks have the unionship and a organization so they has a very very strong base and bitcoin is new but is very impressive consept but it needs a lot of effert to disapper banks because they have not used all their attacks and defences till now

Bitcoin is not designed to eradicate banks. It offers itself as an alternative for fiat money in online transactions (which get rid of some government regulations to fiat monies) Bitcoin is just an alternative with many cool features that makes people fall in love with it like gold.

I don't think so that banks will disappear because of bitcoin - I do believe that they can co-exist and can live without the other.
2990  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: September 03, 2016, 07:21:41 PM
They were both result for me, when i first gambled, i won money, and then i lost a lot, it wrecked my life, Now i am +ev again. Gambling is too thrilled
We do see gamblers are usualy risk takers. They can’t help but go for the bigger pot. They end up taking too many chances and losing everything usually. That’s why gambling is a game for addicts, they win and then lose it all over and over.

I beg to disagree. Gambling is not a game for addicts. Gambling is designed for entertainment and that it is the gambler who is responsible for himself if that gets addicted to it. Gambling should not be blamed for it. The parameter to gambling however is, if it is not fun anymore, stop!
2991  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: People hate Bitcoins? on: September 03, 2016, 07:18:50 PM
If there are people who lost money gambling or in ponzi schemes, they can't blame Bitcoin for it.
They should be more careful and learn what the real purpose of Bitcoin is.

Correct. Bitcoin is not all about investing, there are many features and uses of bitcoin and investing is a part of it. Now, when someone invests, that person must realize that there is a risk on that investment and that all of the money or bitcoin that invested in might all gone. I know a number of people that were victims of ponzi scams and yet, they still love bitcoin.
2992  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: September 03, 2016, 07:14:38 PM
it is mainly because it allows you to make some decent money even though the possibility is a really small of this happening
if we apply the correct strategy in gambling, then the result will not be a loss, even the games will be profitable, so that people will continue to play this gambling puz until they are completely satisfied with what was achieved in the gambling game.
But the problem even a strategy didnt work without luck. its should be both luck and strategy can give you good result.
You can not make any profit if one of this luck and strategy is none of your methods..
Also gambling is a game so it can be addicting just like the game dota2 or leaugue of legends..

Gambling really is a game of luck. If you really want to win and make a living out of gambling, you need to create more ways to become more luckier. What I mean is, you need to create sessions. Example, your bankroll is 1 btc, it is not wise to play all of that in just one session because when you lost on that session, you are done. However, if divide it into let us say, 10 sessions: it will be .1 per session - this will give you 10 chances of becoming lucky. This is not the only thing you need to consider when gambling, there are other factors needed to be honed like controlling emotions, proper bankroll management, and the like.
2993  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: September 03, 2016, 07:09:49 PM
It's an interesting possibility, if this can give you the opportunity to work in the internet business field, using Bitcoin at the same time. But I don't know if this could really work as a main job.

Right, you need to think a million times before deciding on whether or not you are going to quit your day job for bitcoin ventures. Of course, there are other successful individuals in bitcoin industry but it doesn't follow that you are guaranteed of that success also - you need to work for it and earned it. There is no easy way whether in regular job or business.
2994  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: September 03, 2016, 07:06:26 PM
I think I was still playing even if I was rich. I play for fun and my basic motive is not to make money to get rich. I enjoy each bet I place. Sports games are like passion for me I just transform this passion to make some money if there is chance. I don't feel need to place on everything. So I was gambling doesn't matter what financial situation I was having.

Gambling is really designed for entertainment and if you want to make this as a living then, you must have the system and discipline in place otherwise, you will surely encounter several losses and may mess your peaceful life. If you are only playing for fun and spend money that you can afford to lose, then status in life doesn't matter at all.
2995  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: September 03, 2016, 07:02:21 PM
Gambling can be a vicious cycle for a lot of people.
Once you lose you want to earn it back and doing so you do you get greedy and want to try winning again. So, there are many reasons gambling attracts people to keep on gambling.

This is right - one of the reasons why people keeps coming back is because they are chasing their losses and it will take real long because on the process, instead of winning back the loses it tends on the other way around - unless that person is very lucky and disciplined enough to stop when in profits already by not getting greedy.
2996  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: September 03, 2016, 06:58:34 PM
of course im not rich because of it and i never will be, gambling always makes you lose money

Not everyone, there are a few people who can win or draw in gambling, maybe 5% is winner, 10% is draw, the left 85% is loser.
Yes, you can’t get rich from gambling. You can usually make a small profit if you are lucky and not trying to make a million. If you are playing to get rich you are more then likely not winning anything at all. Because luck will not work all the times.

This is true that luck will not work all the times. However, pro gamblers counter it by creating more sessions and proper bankroll management - this way, there will be an increase of chances to get lucky compared to just playing with one sessions wherein you only get lucky once.
2997  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: September 03, 2016, 06:55:46 PM
If there are just two choices then investing for sure. If i was to choose few months ago I was also saying gambling. Now on based of my harsh experiences I will suggest everyone to invest. It works in slow motion and there is high probability of remaining with some money extra in the end of each dividend period. Gambling if you win then too you will give back sooner.

Thanks for this advice crytoboost. I presumed that you get busted in one of your gambling sessions. This is true, some gambling losses is traumatizing which for me a blessing in disguise if you get traumatized and stop gambling because apart from staying away from gambling, you can also indulge yourself with other activities that are more meaningful, healthy, and fun!
2998  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: September 03, 2016, 06:52:13 PM
I believe that you're used to gamble using Bitcoin, so in this case you need to transfer funds to a cold storage and also download some interesting games to your desktop, keeping you busy and away from gambling.

That is really possible that the OP gambles with bitcoins (no wonder because anybody can create an account to online casinos that accept bitcoin and deposit bitcoin instantly as compared to ordinary fiat money where there are many requirements to submit in order to activate casino account) Well, aside from installing new games to desktop and storing coins in cold storage, might as well indulge oneself to physical activities outdoors with friends and loved ones.
2999  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: September 03, 2016, 02:12:24 PM
Are you inspired by those bitcoin millionaires? Are you thinking of filing a resignation letter on your day job (if you have any) and focus on bitcoin instead?

Me? I do have a day job and I consider bitcoin as my side job. I don't want to lose that another source of income just because bitcoin is awesome.

I don't have any day job but even if i had i wouldn't leave it for going full time bitcoin because i don't have any special skills that i can use for earning some goods bitcoins nor i have a good enough capital to earn enough bitcoins a week for myself.

If you spend time here then you will find many ways to earn bitcoins, and when it comes to skills it can always be learned but even though its good to keep bitcoin as an extra income.
Yes here on bitcointalk we can find many opportunities to earn bitcoins or even some other altcoins as well and also can earn money by providing different services like web designing or article writing.But still i don't think they can provide full time income or depending on full time income on this will not be a good idea.This should only be considered as extra income.

Trading can give you full time and regular income if you have good capital to invest at initial stage, and if you trade altcoins then your profits will be even higher.

True. That is the advantage of people who have big capital because even if there is only one or two decimal increase of the altcoins they bought, they can still have huge amount of profit when they sell it due to the number of altcoins they have compared to just small amount of capital where even if you have 10% - 100% increase you won't feel the profit because of the low volume.
3000  Economy / Economics / Re: When do you buy Bitcoin ? on: September 02, 2016, 05:08:31 PM
Already did it once when the price is lower than I thought it can reached. Just wondering what I'm doing when the bitcoin reach 300 lower as read the replies.Maybe I'm not that into bitcoin those times.
im buying my bitcoins not only once, i do that all the time to be honest because i know that the more i will have the richer i will be in the future
Wow, that's the statement you have the overflowing confidence here, I hope that will happen because I also want to become rich in the future that is why I am also investing my money with bitcoin.

You can buy it and you can also earn it, its better to make more efforts in earning instead of buying as everyone cannot afford to buy bitcoins regularly.

Yes you could do both but since I do not have enough money to buy I prefer to earn it.  I always makebit a point that I would do something everyday for bitcoins.  I uses it to finance my weekly needs.  It is the best feeling when you are exerting efforts to have something. 

Yes as I just read in other thread that you really use your coins to finance your daily needs.

Anyways there are people who don't use their own money to purchase bitcoin. It's just a matter of proper circulation like I did. Im buying coins now but I started to earned at it at first. I put some of my bitcoin earnings and began doing trading. All USD earnings are now used to buy coins. It's just a matter of time and seriousness to the work.

Yeah its better to do both, earn it in best possible way and buy it when you are satisfied with price so that you can have higher amount of coins in future.

the fundamental way of properly doing it is to buy low and sell high. There are also other people saying that you should buy when the market is afraid and sell when the market gets greedy. Other are also seeing that in cryptocurrency, one should buy on rumors and sell on news. Actually these are my 3 parameters in buying bitcoins.
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