Hahaha, no. One D3, it just mines 10-15x as efficiently. With the Blissz firmware, mine was running at about 14.5gh/s at 740W at the wall.

It's actually not energy efficient at all, it just uses less energy than, say, a D3. However, a D3 will, at least on the X11 algo, mine at 10x+ the efficiency for 2-3x the energy depending on your settings. That is FAR more earth friendly (and the D3 is currently barely churning out a profit at the cost of a lot of electricity, I turned mine off a couple months back, even using Blissz's firmware).

As something to play with, the Baikal mini looks neat enough. If you're set on using it, I suggest just looking at the algos and mining whatever will bring in the most coins and cross your fingers they end up worth something. At the current rate, you lose money by turning it on (unless your electricity is free). It's a 2 year old ASIC. It's great for playing with or learning with, and if either is your goal, good luck with it!

I don't think a single 1070 was ever going to bring you in 10k, but either way none of what you just said has anything to do with what I said.

A single one of my 1070s right now: $1.50/day after electricity
Antminer A3 right now: $2.13/day after electricity

As an individual item, my A3 has MAYBE brought in a little more than my 1070 due to being one of the early first batch arrivals, but my 1070 is still earning and my A3 is dropping every day. Plus I have several. And the difference in waste is significant (the A3 just bleeds electricity; the 1070 costs about $.30, the A3 costs $3.60/day); in fact, I am likely turning off my A3 on Monday when my B3 arrives.

Not to mention cost, my A3 was, what, around $2400? Vs the $395 I paid for the 1070?

My point is that it is shortsighted and ridiculous at this point to discount either format. Buying new? My personal approach is ASICs that are fresh off the market, gpus otherwise. But neither is guaranteed in any way, just ask any D3 owner...

Check your difficulty, that seems like an awful lot of zeros. I am overclocked and getting pretty close to the miner read hashrate on fairhash at 5,000,000 diff. At stock, 3,000,000 resulted in 100% efficiency (leaving it at 3 lost 10% on the overclock, though). Play with your settings, and also make sure you're on the high end gear port (if an option).

I'm laughing at you and them, then, since my 1060s and 1070s are earning great, as is my X3. Chastising useless criticisms with more useless criticisms is an equal waste of time.

And see how much you're laughing in a month or two. A single one of my 1070s brings in about as much as my A3 at this point (after electrical costs), and I've had the A3 for, what, a couple months? The gpus have been running great for almost a year now...

Ooh, interesting. I just took my L3 offline because it crossed the magic 1:1 electricity to profit line last week. May have to plug it back in and give it a whirl.

If you're looking for suggestions for future projects, the A3 is also on that borderline at this point...

I think the filament will be fine. I have a fan shroud on my A3 and ran it for months overclocked with temps about 20C higher than the X3 with no issues, and that screws directly onto the front. The problem, though, is that it appears this seller only ships to Australia and NZ...

15KW is an awful lot of heat. For comparison, my electric heating system runs around 7KW. for like 7-10 minutes/hour. To heat a two bedroom house. So unless your apartment is massive, maybe go with 2-3 and see if you need more?

Flow, yes, because I am trying to duct heat out of the house in summer...

So now that mine has arrived...that front plate. Has anyone added a pull fan? Did you just stick it on the front, or use a shroud? If shroud, where did you make it/get it from? I'm going to start brainstorming but if there's a shroud already designed for it that I can just buy on ebay or something I'd rather just do that (I don't own a 3d printer or anything)...

Wired. I don't think Bitmain has made a wireless miner in a year or so.

Meh. I'll consider using Nicehash again once they finish paying me back.

Agreed, but again, some vs. all is what I was trying to say. If they ran all or even most of the miners up until they sold them, you'd see drops during shipping, and the rate wouldn't fall so quickly after they are received. I again have no doubt they do SOME mining with them, they'd be fools not to.

Is that your expectation? Some general one? My expectation of a business is to act in exactly the manner they lay out. In reality, people who paid $12K paid $12K. Bitmain technically didn't have to refund them at all. That would have been bad business, but it would have also been a completely legitimate decision to make. The nature of how they refund is spelled out pretty specifically, as is the fact that you are invoiced in one currency, and pay in another. Bitmain has always operated this way, at least in the time I've been a customer; it's also why, if a coin is dropping, you can wait to place your order and end up spending fewer of those coins, since the invoices/original product prices are based in fiat currency (though Bitmain seems to update them a bit more frequently these days).

This is how currency, and expenditures, work. No judgment in that statement, it just is. Buying, holding, selling, and spending various currencies, crypto or otherwise, is all a combination of investment and risk. If you are into crypto as an investment, then don't spend it, spend fiat (which is what I generally do, I buy or replace the amount for a purchase if I am holding the coin).

If they are issuing the refund in USD in a wire transfer when someone didn't pay that way, that is a bit annoying, though, I'll definitely give you that, and it certainly doesn't help their customer relations or image. But again, unless there was some different form of agreement at time of purchase, they are issuing a partial refund based on their on re-valuation of a product that the buyer already agreed to pay the original sum for. Not saying they are heroes for it by any means, they're a business, and like others this was a decision that serves them best (by hopefully placating loyal customers), but that's the reason many of us didn't buy the first batch: we weren't willing to spent $12k on a miner algos might fork away from. Some people took that risk. The fact that they are getting anything back at all is pretty cool IMO, since if Bitmain were the evil overlords people on this board make them out to be, they likely wouldn't have bothered...

It was a joke. I still don't have pizza.

Though for the record, there is no overall philosophy for crypto. There are certainly specific coins with guiding philosophies like those, but ultimately most of them want to succeed and profit (and it's no coincidence that a lot of the successful ones happen to value decentralization). And honestly I don't think centralization and the market for coins are as intrinsically intertwined as all that. The coins have value because people are buying them and selling them; most of the people doing that either don't know or don't care about decentralization, they just want profit. And Bitmain do not have interest in pushing their customers out of the market; if they did, they wouldn't bother selling their hardware (or would only do indirect and bulk sales, like FPGA producers do). At best pushing home miners out of the market would end up being coincidental or practical.

I'm with you idealogically, but the market is supply and demand. And not that I don't believe Bitmain does any mining before selling inventory, or that they own or supply a farm, but I hear people state that all the time yet have seen no proof of them running all their machines before selling them; somehow the difficulty and earning drops quickly (like in hours to days) when the miners reach the customers, which wouldn't make sense if Bitmain mined with all of them before selling. So while I have no doubt they do some, they clearly don't run all their machines until they sell them off like some people claim.

As for personal computing and all tech, that actually is what happens. The rnd cycle requires it; unless a direct competitor can beat you to market with the next big thing, you keep selling the older tech until you've recouped enough to make putting the next model out make sense. I live in Portland, your mind would melt if you knew the kinds or prototypes Intel has up and running. Seriously. We're both typing on Speak and Spells in comparison, and that's just what I have seen from friends, I can't imagine what kinds of top secret stuff they have going on...

Anyway, my original point, if I had one since I was just making fun of people taking this way too seriously, is that no business wants to be your friend, they all want to profit. I know this. I run one. It doesn't mean many businesses don't care about their customers. But they, again, do not bring me pizza.

It might be. Which would crack me up, because everyone called that coin a scam when I was starting out with mining.

It's not propaganda, it's math. Your bill was in USD so your refund is too. If BCH had dropped in value and the reverse was the case, people would complain then too.

That sucks but that's the nature of dealing with any form of currency or investment exchange. Bitmain didn't make that decision on the fly, that is always their policy. If BCH drops below the price at time of sale by the time they issue refunds, they will still have to honor the cash value. So no, nobody lost $12K.

Well, yeah. That's what we're betting on.

Hi--I'm running a node for Verium on a Pi and I'd like to add CLI monitoring for my XMR-Stak machines as well. Looking either for something similar to the below or a place to start in building a scrypt to do so:

https://github.com/bezeredi/verium-cli-monitor

Any ideas? All the monitors I've found so far are either for Windows or browser based...

No problem. Have fun and good luck!