Please read the following carefully:
The fees will be higher this time than with exo_coin because the bitcoin price has fallen dramatically since I originally set those prices. I hope you will understand. The fee will be 0.02BTC or 0.9% which ever is greater.
lol and even taking fees I hate what this community has become |
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So what have you done, that require early funding? Developed something innovative like PoS, KGW, coinmixing? No, you clone a coin like everyone (replacing some hashes and numbers, that you find in the wiki) and link a qt-html parser to the GUI.
First 100 blocks are empty? You continue to defraud facts. You have 100 empty blocks that are gone in a few hours and then you advertise "Early mining", and "High initial reward". That's nothing but instamine, just 100 blocks delayed.
I'm sorry but you're just not making sense, are we going to keep instamining after 100 blocks? Dedicatedpool already has a pre-reg up for EDG. The first 100-200 blocks are going to get mined rather quickly, we're mitigating the effects of instamine. I am not sure anymore if you are just shifty or dense. You fucking advertize HIGHT INITIAL REWARDS and EARLY MINING Do we need early funding? Yeah, we're implementing message sending which does not exist anywhere else right now, we have a built-in trading solution, and we're gonna stock the hell out of our launch marketplace to fill EDG with tons of products and services from day 1
As said, you link a html parser to the GUI, everything else already exists. Don't tell tales, fool, I am a developer myself, I know what your "features" cost. But the initial rewards are high? Do you like instamine? Concerning the messages, you don't understand. Those are tied to transactions, the messages exist on a secondary block chain, it's new and innovative stuff. Stop with the FUD You claim "no-instamining" and a few lines further you promise "high initial rewards" - wich is basically instamine just with a delay of a few hours. You should become a politican with your buttering up, turning words around and fraud. And your message system is not innovative. Its an encrypted chat system and a html frontend. Something, that other guys program in their freetime. And you ask money for it before it even exists. Not even when you invented something as innovative and new as bitcoin was on its first day, you deserve only one Satoshi of IPO. Bitcoin devs that been with the coin early are rich by now just because it had sucess. Same as other successful coins like Litecoin. You want IPO reward to have a safety net, to pull profit from that thing no matter how successful it goes. Even if no one even would trade your shitcoin, you would have your profits you collected from fools. And if this should have success, you earn twice. This is why ANY form of an IPO is a scam to beginn with. Nice, how are high initial rewards instamining? Instamine is when an entity manages to snag 100+ blocks in a couple minutes after launch. I hope you know EVERY coin EVER has relatively "high" initial rewards that decrease over time (halving points) Also, EDG has Escrow now, stop trolling. Instamine is when who's in early enough gets the most profit, no matter when the peak is. Also, I dont fucking care about Escrow. An Escrow doesn't disprove my point, that you get profit from your IPO. As said, even if you do not run off with the IPO, you are scamming because you get profit no matter how this coin goes. You are not equal to every one else, you lift yourself above the investors. You get BTC profit, they get coins of unknown value. So it doesn't fucking matter wether you run away with the BTC or stay, you do IPO, that makes you a scammer, EOD. Ohhhh, so instamining isn't "instant mining" and all IPO coins even if legit are scams perpetrated by evil scammers! Haha, anyway this is my last response to you because you've pretty much confirmed yourself to be a troll. You totally refuse the point that was made just out of logic conclusion. You demand money for something other do in their freetime. Everyone who makes a coin that's successful does deserve the profit they make. But you want more, you want profit in any case. You don't want the equal risk, that everyone has involved in this "game". You want your BTC in safe habour, before the race even began. Otherwise you would run this project out of enthusiasm to create something new and not for fucking BTC you scam off from greedy morons. And yes, I stated from the beginning, that ALL IPO coins are scam. And everyone who buys IPO is a fucking idiot and a harm for this community. |
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So what have you done, that require early funding? Developed something innovative like PoS, KGW, coinmixing? No, you clone a coin like everyone (replacing some hashes and numbers, that you find in the wiki) and link a qt-html parser to the GUI.
First 100 blocks are empty? You continue to defraud facts. You have 100 empty blocks that are gone in a few hours and then you advertise "Early mining", and "High initial reward". That's nothing but instamine, just 100 blocks delayed.
I'm sorry but you're just not making sense, are we going to keep instamining after 100 blocks? Dedicatedpool already has a pre-reg up for EDG. The first 100-200 blocks are going to get mined rather quickly, we're mitigating the effects of instamine. I am not sure anymore if you are just shifty or dense. You fucking advertize HIGHT INITIAL REWARDS and EARLY MINING Do we need early funding? Yeah, we're implementing message sending which does not exist anywhere else right now, we have a built-in trading solution, and we're gonna stock the hell out of our launch marketplace to fill EDG with tons of products and services from day 1
As said, you link a html parser to the GUI, everything else already exists. Don't tell tales, fool, I am a developer myself, I know what your "features" cost. But the initial rewards are high? Do you like instamine? Concerning the messages, you don't understand. Those are tied to transactions, the messages exist on a secondary block chain, it's new and innovative stuff. Stop with the FUD You claim "no-instamining" and a few lines further you promise "high initial rewards" - wich is basically instamine just with a delay of a few hours. You should become a politican with your buttering up, turning words around and fraud. And your message system is not innovative. Its an encrypted chat system and a html frontend. Something, that other guys program in their freetime. And you ask money for it before it even exists. Not even when you invented something as innovative and new as bitcoin was on its first day, you deserve only one Satoshi of IPO. Bitcoin devs that been with the coin early are rich by now just because it had sucess. Same as other successful coins like Litecoin. You want IPO reward to have a safety net, to pull profit from that thing no matter how successful it goes. Even if no one even would trade your shitcoin, you would have your profits you collected from fools. And if this should have success, you earn twice. This is why ANY form of an IPO is a scam to beginn with. Nice, how are high initial rewards instamining? Instamine is when an entity manages to snag 100+ blocks in a couple minutes after launch. I hope you know EVERY coin EVER has relatively "high" initial rewards that decrease over time (halving points) Also, EDG has Escrow now, stop trolling. Instamine is when who's in early enough gets the most profit, no matter when the peak is. Also, I dont fucking care about Escrow. An Escrow doesn't disprove my point, that you get profit from your IPO. As said, even if you do not run off with the IPO, you are scamming because you get profit no matter how this coin goes. You are not equal to every one else, you lift yourself above the investors. You get BTC profit, they get coins of unknown value. So it doesn't fucking matter wether you run away with the BTC or stay, you do IPO, that makes you a scammer, EOD. |
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So what have you done, that require early funding? Developed something innovative like PoS, KGW, coinmixing? No, you clone a coin like everyone (replacing some hashes and numbers, that you find in the wiki) and link a qt-html parser to the GUI.
First 100 blocks are empty? You continue to defraud facts. You have 100 empty blocks that are gone in a few hours and then you advertise "Early mining", and "High initial reward". That's nothing but instamine, just 100 blocks delayed.
I'm sorry but you're just not making sense, are we going to keep instamining after 100 blocks? Dedicatedpool already has a pre-reg up for EDG. The first 100-200 blocks are going to get mined rather quickly, we're mitigating the effects of instamine. I am not sure anymore if you are just shifty or dense. You fucking advertize HIGHT INITIAL REWARDS and EARLY MINING Do we need early funding? Yeah, we're implementing message sending which does not exist anywhere else right now, we have a built-in trading solution, and we're gonna stock the hell out of our launch marketplace to fill EDG with tons of products and services from day 1
As said, you link a html parser to the GUI, everything else already exists. Don't tell tales, fool, I am a developer myself, I know what your "features" cost. But the initial rewards are high? Do you like instamine? Concerning the messages, you don't understand. Those are tied to transactions, the messages exist on a secondary block chain, it's new and innovative stuff. Stop with the FUD You claim "no-instamining" and a few lines further you promise "high initial rewards" - wich is basically instamine just with a delay of a few hours. You should become a politican with your buttering up, turning words around and fraud. And your message system is not innovative. Its an encrypted chat system and a html frontend. Something, that other guys program in their freetime. And you ask money for it before it even exists. Not even when you invented something as innovative and new as bitcoin was on its first day, you deserve only one Satoshi of IPO. Bitcoin devs that been with the coin early are rich by now just because it had sucess. Same as other successful coins like Litecoin. You want IPO reward to have a safety net, to pull profit from that thing no matter how successful it goes. Even if no one even would trade your shitcoin, you would have your profits you collected from fools. And if this should have success, you earn twice. This is why ANY form of an IPO is a scam to beginn with. |
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So what have you done, that require early funding? Developed something innovative like PoS, KGW, coinmixing? No, you clone a coin like everyone (replacing some hashes and numbers, that you find in the wiki) and link a qt-html parser to the GUI.
First 100 blocks are empty? You continue to defraud facts. You have 100 empty blocks that are gone in a few hours and then you advertise "Early mining", and "High initial reward". That's nothing but instamine, just 100 blocks delayed.
I'm sorry but you're just not making sense, are we going to keep instamining after 100 blocks? Dedicatedpool already has a pre-reg up for EDG. The first 100-200 blocks are going to get mined rather quickly, we're mitigating the effects of instamine. I am not sure anymore if you are just shifty or dense. You fucking advertize HIGHT INITIAL REWARDS and EARLY MINING Do we need early funding? Yeah, we're implementing message sending which does not exist anywhere else right now, we have a built-in trading solution, and we're gonna stock the hell out of our launch marketplace to fill EDG with tons of products and services from day 1
As said, you link a html parser to the GUI, everything else already exists. Don't tell tales, fool, I am a developer myself, I know what your "features" cost. |
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@TheMightyX
You're assuming we have infinite money and time right now and that we can just be paid off 1-1.5 months down the line. Why don't you leave and come back during Escrow? Stop insulting the kind people of this forum.
If you were a coin dev you would understand the necessity of early funding
Hundreds of coins have been created without any early funding. All you need early funding for is to get your reward into save habour if your project fails. So you let the IPO-fools pay for your safety net. You get BTC, they get a stock of coins of unsure value. If the project succeeds, you earn double; you get your IPO reward+instamine profits that you can dump at the next peak when the coin hits a market. So you can scam money off the people even if you are not actually running away with the IPO. Those that buy IPO and support these scamcoins just have not realized that, blind from greed of early profits (dumping the IPO at initial peak when it hits exchanges). You're damn right, the majority of coins (clones) don't require early funding (unless the devs need to use coingen) Instamine? Read the thread again. First 100 blocks are empty to protect against that terrible demise of many great coins. So what have you done, that require early funding? Developed something innovative like PoS, KGW, coinmixing? No, you clone a coin like everyone (replacing some hashes and numbers, that you find in the wiki) and link a qt-html parser to the GUI. First 100 blocks are empty? You continue to defraud facts. You have 100 empty blocks that are gone in a few hours and then you advertise "Early mining", and "High initial reward". That's nothing but instamine, just 100 blocks delayed. |
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@TheMightyX
You're assuming we have infinite money and time right now and that we can just be paid off 1-1.5 months down the line. Why don't you leave and come back during Escrow? Stop insulting the kind people of this forum.
If you were a coin dev you would understand the necessity of early funding
Hundreds of coins have been created without any early funding. All you need early funding for is to get your reward into save habour if your project fails. So you let the IPO-fools pay for your safety net. You get BTC, they get a stock of coins of unsure value. If the project succeeds, you earn double; you get your IPO reward+instamine profits that you can dump at the next peak when the coin hits a market. So you can scam money off the people even if you are not actually running away with the IPO. Those that buy IPO and support these scamcoins just have not realized that, blind from greed of early profits (dumping the IPO at initial peak when it hits exchanges). |
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Al bashing aside a coin with it's own marketplace that mints directly in your wallet while still being able to daytrade would be the BOM!
I really hope this takes off.
Like credits? Like gpucoin? Like mint? Nope i mean directly in your own wallet. Right now if you want to trade coins you have to put them in the wallet of an exchange, the exchange keeps your minted POS and autosells them. Because of that prices stay low. It's not something they promised yet but do this and you would have something really special. Would be a good upgrade after launch. That's not how PoS works. PoS can only work from your client. The marketplace in the client screenshot is nothing but a cryptsy API, you still need the coins there on cryptsy wallet. And if you constantly withdraw from the exchange as soon as a trade happened, you constantly pay fees and your PoS never comes in because the coins that return from exchange are new and need to mature for PoS, so as long as you trade you get no PoS but the exchange gets constant fees. No exchange would trade your coin that you have not sent to them earlier, therefore they will always have a hotwallet with coins in it and they will get the PoS. |
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Al bashing aside a coin with it's own marketplace that mints directly in your wallet while still being able to daytrade would be the BOM!
I really hope this takes off.
Like credits? Like gpucoin? Like mint? |
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I just read this whole thread and I am not understanding the scam outrage that takes up the majority of the 10 pages. It isn't different than any other IPO. Right, this is the same as any other coin with IPO. IPO in coins is the most blatant expression of human stupidity in the cryptomarket. Someone pays money for something that has not even been released let alone showed working (many IPO-Coins failed at launch for various reasons), to some guy on the internet who made a posting in a forum. Someone really gives money to THIS? Go figure! If people invested that money in poker, they'd been on a safer boat. Just for poker, one needs some little remains of sense to play it right and proper... The reason why expecially I am against IPO have been expressed so often in many of these coin threads, that all have come out as failure and devs running off with the money. Coin creators promise heaven and earth and we have a flood of shitcoins, failures and scam in here. As much as I explained, why a successful coin with a good maintainer and a good community neither needs premine nor IPO. This is the easiest way for scammers to get much money (up to ten times of average annually income) for work that needs less than a few days cloning open source code if at all. In the end, it destroys trust and enthusiasm in the crypto community and it needs to stop! Less than a year ago, even premine was frown upon, today scammers don't even need to release a coin to collect money for literally nothing. Today they proclaim IPO programms and everyone throws their few BTC at them. |
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@Jherek If your coin is successful, means having a good price and active community, you can get everything by donations. It worked with other successful coins as well. You need bounty for services? Set up donation address, make it transparent. You need support for servers and stuff? Set up donation pools. You want to go charity? Donation again.
If you are not successful, then asking for IPO was a scam from the very beginning. And this strategy works great for clone coins that don't need early funding. The donations go to typical services giveaways/mobile apps/etc lol no fuck you you are not telling me how I express my opinion about you fucking scammers. You and all the other IPO scammers (name one that wasnt a scam) destroy the cryptocoin community with your shit. GTFO Reddcoin (raised 170 btc and was successful), NXT (had an early IPO), Exocoin Are these the best coins ever? No but they fulfilled their promises.
By allowing escrow but expecting that escrow to be turned over not after, but before you deliver the product is shady to say the least. This allows you to take the funds and run. Saying "oh we will accept escrow for stage 2" means nothing. In fact it means less than nothing. You are just trying to present a hypothetical legitimate outcome which has no relation to the present situation.
You also dodged my point about the method of communication/verification being not more practical, but convenient, for you to further propagate your scam.
Yes, some people will send you small amounts of btc. And some people who hold a lot may decide to send .1 or .25 your way.
But any person with half a brain knows that if they legitimized their IPO they would received magnitudes higher amounts of investments.
Case in point:
ExoCoin before escrow: 6-10 BTC (maybe less)
ExoCoin after allowing escrow: 175 BTC
This is a no-brainer.
The only person that would turn this down is someone who knows he can't deliver on his promise and therefor would not benefit should a legitimate escrow be used.
Please explain to us why you need the escrow funds before handing over the product, when you could have them an hour later and receive so much more. Stop trolling. This is my last response unless you write something constructive. lol. Can not reply questions or disprove points Call the other one trolling. so funny, scammer |
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@Jherek If your coin is successful, means having a good price and active community, you can get everything by donations. It worked with other successful coins as well. You need bounty for services? Set up donation address, make it transparent. You need support for servers and stuff? Set up donation pools. You want to go charity? Donation again.
If you are not successful, then asking for IPO was a scam from the very beginning. And this strategy works great for clone coins that don't need early funding. The donations go through typical services giveaways/mobile apps/etc And what are you? Innovative? You even clone the IPO-scam model. lol no fuck you you are not telling me how I express my opinion about you fucking scammers. You and all the other IPO scammers (name one that wasnt a scam) destroy the cryptocoin community with your shit. GTFO Reddcoin (raised 170 btc and was successful), NXT (had an early IPO), Exocoin Are these the best coins ever? No but they fulfilled their promises. Rdd lol, 5 satoshi, peak at cryptsy: 15 satoshi. Wow very promise |
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Another IPO-Scam? LETS BUY THIS WHAT COULD PROBABLY GO WRONG?  SHUT UP AND TAKE MY BTC lol human stupidity at work You're entitled to your own opinion but I encourage you to review the facts first  Thank you. Yes... same claims like all the other scam coins with IPO and/or premine. "But need coins for development" lol no you don't. Make a successful coin and you don't need investment for development. Problem: You can't. Sadly, good products take time and money. If your coin is successful, means having a good price and active community, you can get everything by donations. It worked with other successful coins as well. You need bounty for services? Set up donation address, make it transparent. You need support for servers and stuff? Set up donation pools. You want to go charity? Donation again. Also, as developers you always get the first seats in the instamine train anyhow, and you even proclaim it with "HIGHT INITIAL REWARD" at your 1st post. If you are not successful, then asking for IPO was a scam from the very beginning. Unless you have an actual question you can continue this conversation (if you want) through message.
lol no fuck you you are not telling me how I express my opinion about you fucking scammers. You and all the other IPO scammers (name one that wasnt a scam) destroy the cryptocoin community with your shit. GTFO |
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Another IPO-Scam? LETS BUY THIS WHAT COULD PROBABLY GO WRONG? SHUT UP AND TAKE MY BTC lol human stupidity at work You're entitled to your own opinion but I encourage you to review the facts first Thank you. Yes... same claims like all the other scam coins with IPO and/or premine. "But need coins for development" lol no you don't. Make a successful coin and you don't need investment for development. Problem: You can't. |
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Another IPO-Scam?
LETS BUY THIS WHAT COULD PROBABLY GO WRONG????
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY BTC
lol human stupidity at work
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are you planning to add your coin to cryptsy ?? this one thing will make me invest in your coin
i dont like crypsy..MIntPal much better and much lower fees..black coin had more volume last few days on mintpal then any coin on crypsy Agreed. Cryptsy is slow in every imaginable way Yeah.... I have to agree I dont like cryptsy as well especially with its high fees. Plus as most stated cryptsy is the place most altcoins go to die LOL. Mintpal has low volumes and less users , let's see when it gets the volume cryptsy handles how it will go When BC goes to cryptsy the price will crash first. It always happened when a coin joined cryptsy. However when the multipool is open and BC is on cryptsy, Radiostatic can use cryptsy API to buy BC. |
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I feel positive to this coin again after the initiative for hardfork got accepted and devs are actually working on it. Now we need a little luck and some support from community and this thing will be able to stand on its own feet again! Looking forward for the changes, the course is exciting  |
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looking forward  how many miners you control with it? right now 9 rigs Wow nice I was settin it up for two  And how does it works for 9? Perfect ? It's ok. Not perfect Maybe upgrade will fix some issues, especially notification. I set cgminer in view mode (W:). This allows only to view status. Right now I have control miner to view status, and if something is wrong with miner's I connecting with them through teamviewer. For me this is the most comfortable. Uhm... W:IP is not "viewmode" its actually "writemode". IPs that you set W: in the config has actually write access to your miners! |
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Apart for the Mint/blackcoin war ...
20% inflation and then after 4 years 5% per year forever is insane.
If you really believe in this coin for the long term and it becomes a worldwide currency it will be a worse plague than fiat.
It won't be 20% inflation, but less than that because that 20% presumes that 100% of the coins will sit quietly and acquire coin age, which is false. Even at 5%, if this were possible, it is less than the inflation of the money supply. If you think that cryptos and altcoins are worse than fiat, then you have no idea how central banks and the debt-money scam works. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDe5kUUyT0Was that to subtle for you? Probably. If there is no actually 20% then somebody change this: which gives the highest payout at 20% the first year, then decrease 5% per year until the 4th year it reaches annual interest rate of 5%, then it will remain at this rate. And explain in a few words about the max and min. And I do hope the coding is right and we don't end like DOGE who turned to inflation overnight due to dizzy devs. I still think, inflation is the right way to go. Currencies need inflation unlike commodities like gold that live on deflation. But virtual currencies are no gold, they have no use when not spend. PS: I am really puzzled, that bc is going where mintcoin was supposed to: price increase since pos. Maybe I'd end up dumping my mint too. |
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And compared to normal mining, this is a really low output. I mined that million in a week or so, then moved again to other coins. When I started the wallet again last week, I got like 3k of my stake but then only 760 two day ago then nothing more.
If it is really onls 550/day and one has to wait 20 days before any stake I doubt, that many would invest in that coin to get a stake.
Well, that all depends on where the price goes. if the price were slowly steadily rising, then it would be a different ballgame. You can mint coins for next to nothing, rather than spending hundreds a month on electricity to mine - so it's passive income in a sense. But if the price keeps dicking around at 20 satoshis for months to come then yeah, this will be in trouble. But you also get next to nothing for minting. What are 500/day worth when bagholders sit on millions? You see the answer at the market and its movement... |
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